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mod6: m00
shinohai: m00000000000000000000000000000 mod6
shinohai: Am I reverting to redditardness?
mod6: hehe. what up shinohai
shinohai: Just sitting here with my Baroness hoping you haz good news re: trb or ada experiments?
shinohai: http://btcinfo.sdf.org/uploads/Baronesstitsbare.jpg
mircea_popescu: there's something fundamentally wrong with that pic...
shinohai: What is wrong? Are you like trinque and think she should wash hair again?
mircea_popescu: tits are not bare.
shinohai: LOL
shinohai: She says if she insults in kanzure's manner, will you give her full integer Bitcoin? jajaja
mircea_popescu: i dun think so!
mircea_popescu: what's she do anyway ?
shinohai: She social engineers weak men out of money, what else?
mircea_popescu: lel
shinohai: ^.^
shinohai: I'm sure mircea_popescu 's slaves could do the same.
mircea_popescu: well, the perpetuation of the species is proof positive that most females could do it fine.
shinohai: nb
shinohai: tfw women suddenly feel insulted when you tell them the story of Ragnar Lodbrok
mod6: <+shinohai> Just sitting here with my Baroness hoping you haz good news re: trb or ada experiments? << ah, just trying to catch up on this 2nd megal0g
mod6: <+shinohai> She says if she insults in kanzure's manner, will you give her full integer Bitcoin? jajaja << lol
shinohai: mod6: she reads the logs too, after I translate them.
shinohai: Good for the both of us I guess
mod6: werd
shinohai: Gottalove those wimmenz with fire in the eye when they ask you such questions
mircea_popescu: in other news, should saucy mcsaucerson be a burlesque magic act ? or a really bad apple juggler ?
shinohai: majic act
shinohai: *poof* I'm gone
mircea_popescu: http://68.media.tumblr.com/f3e231e4b02fbeedcd44811027eb3f7c/tumblr_nvgh93W86o1sjfoovo1_500.gif << i take it everyone knows the "guys, change the corpse in 3B, it's full" joke ?
shinohai: It might go down like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bDg7n-chhU
asciilifeform: even asciilifeform knows 'corpse in 3b'
shinohai: asciilifeform haz `petz`
asciilifeform: shinohai: just 1 ( unless you count houseplants ). why?
shinohai: No reason at all. asciilifeform is lucky to have petz, as am I.
mircea_popescu: speaking of paucity in scientific literature : /me has not to date encountered a proper discussion of laplace's "sun also rises" probability ; notwithstanding the pantsuits got butthurt enough over the "absurdity" of it to pretend "bayesian" is the proper name for laplaceian statistics, nobody seems to have put the elbow greate into it.
mircea_popescu: ie, it's not just cryptography that suffers from a shocking dearth of actually useful contribution,
shinohai: I thought "The Sun also rises" was Heningway work
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: expand on subj plox for the l0gz ☟︎
mircea_popescu: shinohai laplace points out (correctly) that a first heuristic for "what is the probability of sun rising tomorrow" is to divide the number of times it was observed rising to the total number of assays. in this case, your life in days / your life in days + 1.
asciilifeform: ( butthurtz over laplace?! )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the above is very problematic for the "global warming" mindset.
mircea_popescu: (no, "global warming" is absolutely not novel ; the same sort of cathar nonsense was prevalent in all ages of great pretense and low literacy, usuallyu known as dark ages)
asciilifeform: i thought the sun item was a wink at the fact that statistic is an inference tool, not divine revelation
mircea_popescu: not really. pretty much everything that's pompously called "bayesian statistics" in the "rationalist" circles (not just the self-labeled internet tards, but eg googleheads) is simply lifted laplace / serials shaved off.
shinohai: hahaha the laplace
shinohai: Indeed correct
mircea_popescu: the exact quote is "En faisant, par exemple, remonter la plus ancienne époque de l'histoire à cinq mille ans, ou à 1 826 21jours, et le soleil s'étant levé constamment dans cet intervalle , à chaque révolution de vingt-quatre heures, il y a 182621/1 à parier contre un qu'il se lèvera encore demain. Mais ce nombre est incomparablement plus fort pour celui qui connaissant par l'ensemble des phénomènes le principe ré
mircea_popescu: gulateur des jours et des saisons, voit que rien dans le moment actuel ne peut en arrêter le cours."
mircea_popescu: and the exact problem is directly obvious if one considers HOW exactly the "data" of "climate science" was obtained. "what do you mean you have to be there to observe!"
mircea_popescu: they want observation-by-proxy, like everything else.
shinohai: mircea_popescu also speaks French? not surprised
mircea_popescu: um. i spoke french before i spoke english.
shinohai: Ugh. English is such dirty tongue, even to natico. Saves?
mircea_popescu: anyway, his point stands -- absent any qualitative understanding, ie for a black box world, the probability as declared is the best approximation. this is no small matter, at all.
mircea_popescu: shinohai i actually don't mind it, it's sort of like trying to write only in aliterations.
mircea_popescu: !~calc 182621/5000
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 182621/5000 = 36.5242
mircea_popescu: pretty fine 365 days and 1/4 value he got there, too.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-13#1713937 << I suppose I'll have to add "write great novel romance novel 'Sally Hemmings And The Widower'" to agenda ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-13 21:17 mircea_popescu: afaik "fuchsia herring" never gained coinage in ru, but honestly it's a much better name for "black chicks code" than "black chicks code"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo hey, nothing can stop you! great us novel still awaiting the pen.
mircea_popescu: !~calc 1826213/5000
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 1826213/5000 = 365.24260000000004
shinohai: Siempre soy un soldado de la Malagueña Salerosa
mircea_popescu: a 3 got lost in there.
mircea_popescu: (it exists in teh original)
shinohai: I should star charging for requests to jhvh1
mircea_popescu: lol
shinohai: `yo soy soldado electronico` jajajaja
asciilifeform: in veeery other lulz, https://www.ebay.com/i/142506150167
mod6: neat
mircea_popescu: (current value is 365.2422, but it is likely his value was closer to the correct value at his time than ours.)
mircea_popescu: ie, days become longer by a few ms each century because reasons.
mircea_popescu: (reasons being mostly moon driving tides which slow down earth, and imperfect free movement due to friction in charged plasma field.)
shinohai: Sing this song while you are inside her, clothes are no:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=senoF0vblek
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is that a ~hardened~ calculator ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: shinohai cat got your kbd ?
BingoBoingo: <shinohai> She social engineers weak men out of money, what else? << Congrats
shinohai: Mi kbd es siempre furea tu alcanza
shinohai: Por eso soy Don del Republica
mircea_popescu: !#s Don the Crown
a111: 3 results for "Don the Crown", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=Don%20the%20Crown
shinohai: jajaja no Crown
shinohai: tu me hiciste!
oglafbot: http://oglaf.com/magmachamber/
shinohai: Ay me desecho
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714136 << 'seal registrator' ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 02:18 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is that a ~hardened~ calculator ?
asciilifeform: presumably verified magickeyz that cleared if boobyswitch sprung
asciilifeform: americans had ( have? ) similar concept
mircea_popescu: aha
asciilifeform: ( and we had the babylonian seals thread. standardized seals are useless. but magic value that sram forgets if boobytrap sprung, is prolly best physicaltamper trap possible short of keeping subject under own pillow to guard )
asciilifeform: pictured toolbox also seems to contain items for use with babylonian-style seals
mircea_popescu: well, more evolved versions actually. (have item that hashes time counter + fixed salt through known process ; wipe salt if sprung.
asciilifeform: presumably these were also used in n00kz ( they were used in konsoomer items for some unknown to me reason, i have a calculator still with virginal seal on bolts )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: time counter is tricky because clock drift
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, the space heaters of the era came with, shit you not, nickeline wire + lead stamp seal on the screw-in cover.
asciilifeform: but is also used, incl. in konsoomer mtgox keyz etc
asciilifeform: lol!! yougottabeshittingme
mircea_popescu: nope.
mircea_popescu: no idea why, i mean you fucking owned the item, and you coudl actually buy replacement resistences for it.
mircea_popescu: and in other "wikipedia is great because social media is science and consensus is truth" lulz, http://www.piticigratis.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/1504781940364.jpg
asciilifeform: btw if anyone givesafuck, i found the sealtron, it is a commercial ru export nao, supposedly, http://промкаталог.рф/PublicDocuments/1312420.pdf
mircea_popescu: holy fuck these people do not understand the web. at all.
asciilifeform: clever, seems to use unique rf characteristics of a random wire hairball ☟︎
asciilifeform: as seal
mircea_popescu: a) рф ? rly ? wtf is рф ? b) publicdocumens/1312420 ? really ? WHAT THE FUCK is being communciated, am i often going to do select where = randomnumber ? c) pdf, really ? fu
mircea_popescu: http://promeggog.fu
asciilifeform: lolorcs
asciilifeform: i'ma jpegize it laters if anyone gives actual shit.
mircea_popescu: the wireball idea is sound ; the rest of the crap... notrly. i'd say it's been already fully recorded as is. ☟︎
asciilifeform: item is really hightech version of ye olde glass rod.
mircea_popescu: aha
mircea_popescu: tho really, there's more em planes in coil of wire than there's cleavage planes in foundry glass.
asciilifeform: as for the peculiar iron box and led display, it's a straight rework of old sov calc chassis, which is telltale evidence of when item was designed : '80s, the last time anything interesting happened in orcistan.
mircea_popescu: aha
asciilifeform: on second reading, thing is optical, which is fucking
asciilifeform: lame
asciilifeform: omfg was it not obvious to use rf profile?!!
asciilifeform: http://www.imf.ru/index.php?subm=3&sid=1&ssid=3&lsid=2 << vendor
asciilifeform: they make petro drilling accessories, nuke accounting tools, and... church domes
asciilifeform: and various reactor furniture.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz asciilifeform : phuctor server raid array failing, when'd you like the item restarted ? ☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ugh
asciilifeform: 9h from nao?
mircea_popescu: so in gmt, 3 am ?
asciilifeform: Aha
mircea_popescu: and if not, 3am next day ?
asciilifeform: worx
mircea_popescu: why exactly raid reconstruction would require reboot is an open question, and exactly contrary to the specific design of this item
asciilifeform: was my thought.
asciilifeform: infuriating nonsense.
mircea_popescu: why exactly i am still paying fucking fiatola ugstani retards to host servers for me when there's a whole lot of supposedly competent, supposedly business oriented and not yet entirely senile bright minds also an open question
mircea_popescu: but whatever, why should anything work well by itself.
mircea_popescu utterly can't be arsed to care anymore.
asciilifeform: i vaguely suspect that 'sane hoster' is a contradition similar to 'sane miner'
asciilifeform: but cannot prove.
asciilifeform: *contradiction
mircea_popescu: everything to do with a honest day's work is an incomprehensible ball of contradictions to the comfortable lazy, ever so convinced of the usual slate of "can make own decisions" and whatnots.
asciilifeform: yaya untermenschen don't see their obvious destiny to plug machinegun embrasure for the glory of tmsr
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asciilifeform: holyfuq
mircea_popescu: [HE1EUR02FT027.eop-EUR02.prod.protection.outlook.com] ☟︎
asciilifeform: MICROSHIT?!
mircea_popescu: this a) re an ip that hasn't sent any mail in the past i dunno, six months ? and b) from the phuctor people.
mircea_popescu: so im guessing that a) disk phuctor disk is never getting replaced, when it fails it faisl and b) im not going to be paying these schmucks anymore, when they turn it off they turn it off.
mircea_popescu: maybe one day there's a place to rent servers from. until such a time, so long phuctor.
asciilifeform: and so long all trb nodes ?
mircea_popescu: i guess so.
mircea_popescu: we';re not old enough to be online, what can be done.
mircea_popescu: wait for grow-up.
asciilifeform: outlook.com omfg
mircea_popescu: in no case am i debugging this stack of strange.
asciilifeform: and when trilema also ?
asciilifeform: and snsa shop goes where ?
mircea_popescu: i guess we wait and see.
asciilifeform: wait for what, for 3rd disk to die ?
mircea_popescu: well, something will eventually happen. the situation is just as untenable as it was back in the days of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-21#1646924 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-21 17:25 mircea_popescu: Framedragger that is EXACTLY what isp does.
mircea_popescu: but meanwhile it's also become critical.
asciilifeform: realize what this looks like -- enemy finally gets around to nudging the weak points, and they crumble like old drywall
mircea_popescu: yup.
mircea_popescu: it is exactly what it is, what use is pretending. so much caked youthful spunksocks.
asciilifeform: fwiw i have nfi why thing doesn't live in same place as trilema
asciilifeform: ( cost ? )
mircea_popescu: no, sanity. wtf would everything live in same place as trilema ?
mircea_popescu: concentration is the exactly wrong answer here.
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 3825.0, vol: 26925.37308887 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 3818.9, vol: 62984.29982562 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 3752.005528, vol: 16065.93000000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 3853.0, vol: 9602.64151368 | Volume-weighted last average: 3813.85556403
trinque been spelunking in the trb innards a while, close to wrapped up on a few little tools to go hexstring->privkey->pubkey->addr relying solely on existing trb innards.
trinque: in the process, realized I oughta publically denounce something in the funkenstein importprivkey/dumpprivkey patch ☟︎
trinque: the guy introduced a new wrapper class to... allow himself (?) to diddle an attr of the parent class marked "protected"
trinque: wtf, just make it public then, what's this autistic "no but the sticker's still there that says safe"
trinque speaking of vchSecret in CBase58Data
trinque: sorry, vchData
trinque: at any rate, the thing's HORRIBLY NAMED AND DEFINED class tree is bad enough; I don't think I'd ever sign anything that introduces yet another atop.
BingoBoingo: Congrats trinque
BingoBoingo: And lol at the cpp cancerisms
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714098 << since might as well, "Appliquons aux sciences politiques et morales la méthode fondée sur l'observation et sur le calcul, méthode qui nous a si bien servis dans les sciences naturelles. N'opposons point une résistance inutile et souvent dangereuse aux effets inévitables du progrès des lumières ; mais ne changeons qu'avec une circonspection extrême nos institutions et les us ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 01:56 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: expand on subj plox for the l0gz
mircea_popescu: ages auxquels nous sommes depuis longtemps pliés. Nous connaissons bien par l'expérience du passé, les inconvéniens qu'ils présentent ; mais nous ignorons quelle est l'étendue des maux que leur changement peut produire. Dans cette ignorance, la théorie des probabilités prescrit d'éviter tout changement : surtout il faut éviter les changemens brusques qui, dans l'ordre moral comme dans l'ordre physique, ne s'opèrent
mircea_popescu: jamais sans une grande perte de force vive."
mircea_popescu: quite not what pantsuit wants statistics for.
mircea_popescu: trinque i imagine dood just didn't know how to proceed and too weird to ask.
mod6: trinque: where do you see this?
trinque: totally possible. curse of not hanging around is not here to speak for himself.
mircea_popescu: and in other antique lulz, http://btcbase.org/log/2014-02-20#518006 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2014-02-20 02:46 chetty: A Fatwa has been issued against living on Mars by clerics who say that trying to set up home there would be un-Islamic.
mircea_popescu: trinque always struck me as a case of "i know these people are right but i don't want them to be" internal tension. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: sort of thing that makes everything difficult.
mircea_popescu: anyway. he has to diddle vchData to import.
mod6: <+trinque> wtf, just make it public then, what's this autistic "no but the sticker's still there that says safe" << oh, i misunderstood this at first pass. you mean, 'make the parent class public, instead of protected' ya?
trinque: sure, so just make it public and diddle
mircea_popescu: yeah.
trinque put this in what'll end up a patch for some key tool binaries.
mod6: yeah, submit when ready.
trinque: I kinda want printf to be printf too, holy hell.
trinque: you pull one thread.
trinque: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/GCYtI/?raw=true << example, simple trb-addr proggie ☟︎
trinque obviously intending to plonk ass down in front of airgapped box and produce signed transactions
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> trinque i imagine dood just didn't know how to proceed and too weird to ask. << Not like he can't go to The Waters and consult Mithra
mircea_popescu: john waters ?
BingoBoingo: Or the fire waters, or wherever his kind goes
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 3663.0, vol: 28920.73395039 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 3659.8, vol: 71090.96409817 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 3095.748475, vol: 25227.70330000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 3685.6, vol: 9322.08283634 | Volume-weighted last average: 3556.52625479
mircea_popescu: btw BingoBoingo your qnrtra backups are current ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Should be as of 8 ish hours ago, will refresh
mircea_popescu: works.
BingoBoingo remembers the hard way having been involved in learning this
BingoBoingo: lol, at 2012 epiphany which is today's reality http://trilema.com/
BingoBoingo: * http://trilema.com/2012/the-days-enlightenment/
mircea_popescu: heh
BingoBoingo off to serve the interest of Petty Justice for a few hours.
shinohai: I lol at the history: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ygpom/its_time_to_decentralize_bitcoin_development/cydk5q1/
shinohai: lukejr and his "This is not consensus-compatible with the Bitcoin network."
mod6: mornin'
shinohai: Buenas dias mod6
mod6: how you doin today?
BingoBoingo: So, petty justice is demanding I get more petty
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714268 << that is pretty neat, trinque ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 06:03 trinque: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/GCYtI/?raw=true << example, simple trb-addr proggie
asciilifeform: trinque: didja 'libraryize' the crypto routines? or how did you end up doing it.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714258 << funkenstein was an odd d00d: shat on trb, but lifted it wholesale for use in his altwhatever; today hangs in kakolandia and misses no chance to hurrdurrmpisafraud etc ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 05:57 mircea_popescu: trinque always struck me as a case of "i know these people are right but i don't want them to be" internal tension.
mod6: just fixed my office chair.. apparently all it took was to tighten up the dial thingy on the bottom.
mod6: who knew?!
mod6: thing was like rocking side to side, etc. was bout to go buy a new one. herpderp
asciilifeform: whenever i think of cheap 100%finestchinesium officechairs, i think of the famous 'overpressure piston impalement' chair. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( iirc the photo was linked here, couplea yrs ago )
mod6: oh boy, i bettter find this.
mod6: before the thing blows my ass off.
mod6: dang, thats crazy. maybe i better back it off a bit.
mod6: the dial im futzing with doesn't have any thing to do with the piston (as far as i can see)
asciilifeform only buys chairs with 5mm+ of steel between piston and arsehole
mod6: maybe i aught to cut myself a nice tree stump to sit on.
asciilifeform: treestump i suspect is even ergonomically an improvement over most chinese chair..
mod6: probably is. all you really have to do is stain the thing pretty heavy to seal in the things.
mod6: i bought a digital caliper... ima use it to measure the thickness of the baseplate.
mod6: 2.75mm
asciilifeform: prolly suffices if you avoid 'hard landings' lol
mod6: i knew this guy who was well over 300lbs who used to jump into his seat, every time damn near.
mod6: he blew the wheels off of two chairs (at different times) that I saw with my own eyes.
mod6: piston never blew though.
asciilifeform: very interestingly, i happen to know that comp chairs at one time came with steel wheels
asciilifeform: because i found one in a skip in early '90s
asciilifeform: ( my brother still uses it, it looks and works entirely the same today as when found )
mod6: nice.
asciilifeform: but no steel wheels today, and you can't buy'em, It Would Be Wrong
asciilifeform: imho it is interesting and very pete_dushenski's-porche-esque, you can buy a $2k+ chair and still plastic. ☟︎
mod6: oh ya
mod6: just went to the website of the chinese manufacturer of this chair. php/mysql splooge.
mod6: lol
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: first i have rolex with wooden gears and now i have $2k+ plastic chair ? what kinda alt-lottery did i win ? lol
mod6: haha
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: for some reason i recalled you having a plastic-bodied porche
pete_dushenski: i don't recall ever having written about ~owning~ schmancy watches even if i did nail tlp on patek prices (http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/10/the-danger-of-unchecked-assumptions-or-the-surprising-depths-of-inequality/) and did publicly confess to owning leather+plywood chair (http://www.contravex.com/2017/02/20/the-eames-lounge-legacy-continues/)
asciilifeform: hm.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i bought zippy nissan instead. maybe next will be porsch-uh but who knows.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> prolly suffices if you avoid 'hard landings' lol << fwiw too, i use my chair as low as it goes. fully decompressed.
mod6: i feel like im sitting on a bomb now. ☟︎
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-13#1713592 << aha. BingoBoingo recalls well. since we're doing muh archives, here's the link again (http://www.contravex.com/2017/01/09/finding-the-light/) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-13 18:33 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It transformed into "Crossover" craze. iirc pete_dushenski has a blog on this.
pete_dushenski: lovely logs these last few days btw. material science, cars, some french, shite servers, and design discussions. what doesn't #t have ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: !!!!! ACHTUNG, PANZERS! !!!!! >>>> http://www.nosuchlabs.com/pub/dump_9_13_17.gz <<<< phuctor db snapshot, circa last night. this is likely to be the last chance for an unknown while , for anyone who wants to grab a copy. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, trinque , ben_vulpes , phf , mod6 , et al
asciilifeform: sha512: c03c68578b522fb1a9d0406ee1cbc975d58c7dabefd80d5a6848a521a53f1f0ace910f810a6ec38d682572d3055921da0627b3d240be39cf5a9c5a6cb91255d1
mod6: approx size?
asciilifeform: 13491729239 bytes
asciilifeform: ( about double of this, unzipped )
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-13#1713589 << craze just shrunk so that 4-banger engines can propel "suv". it's alive and well though. sedan is dead on a stick. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-13 18:32 mircea_popescu: speaking of which, i kinda always wondered why exactly the SUV craze stopped. i mean, once you give up on sense, there's no way to land, is there ? they could have made a DOUBLE SIZED "car", that takes up two lanes, and could carry that much more injected plastic on the frame.
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-13#1713622 << ferrari, bugatti, bentley, rolls royce. maybach was a thing a decade ago but now it's a mere trim level of s-class instead of standalone item. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-13 18:42 mircea_popescu: so what do rappers do now, priusen ?
asciilifeform: mod6 et al : same goes for the FG docs
mod6: thx
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-13#1713651 << 700hp suv, 800hp muscle car, all at the altar of MOOOARR POWWWAHH. because gotta kamikaze in a blaze of glory. it's last call and the bar's closing. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-13 18:53 mircea_popescu: dodge is making high power cars nao ?
mod6: <+pete_dushenski> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-13#1713589 << craze just shrunk so that 4-banger engines can propel "suv". it's alive and well though. sedan is dead on a stick. << I hate driving, but i can't see myself ever not having the slut-wagon. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-13 18:32 mircea_popescu: speaking of which, i kinda always wondered why exactly the SUV craze stopped. i mean, once you give up on sense, there's no way to land, is there ? they could have made a DOUBLE SIZED "car", that takes up two lanes, and could carry that much more injected plastic on the frame.
pete_dushenski: mod6: they're boss. very aspirational too. works on many levels : practicality, insurance policy, social cachet, and self-worth
mod6: it's a crawler. just goes everywhere. brings all the things with me.
asciilifeform: !~later tell phf know any hosters in ye old orcistan ?
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: in other lulzies, ( BingoBoingo -- qntra fodder? or snoar ) http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/0HWMD/?raw=true , http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/HvNiX/?raw=true << nsa war against 133337 w4r3z . ( runs on java! and other laughs inside )
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714334 << pulling it down ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 16:38 asciilifeform: !!!!! ACHTUNG, PANZERS! !!!!! >>>> http://www.nosuchlabs.com/pub/dump_9_13_17.gz <<<< phuctor db snapshot, circa last night. this is likely to be the last chance for an unknown while , for anyone who wants to grab a copy.
pete_dushenski: same here
trinque: hell asciilifeform do you want to set up a torrent so we don't choke you out?
asciilifeform: nah
asciilifeform: box oughta be able to handle a few folx leechin'
trinque: kk
asciilifeform: why, is somebody getting thrown off ?
trinque: nope, deedbawks slurpin bits just fine
asciilifeform: do be sure to verify hash.
mod6: so was there another dumpfile I missed with some FG stuff, or is that all contained in the phuctor blob?
asciilifeform: mod6: phuctor gz is STRICTLY the db
asciilifeform: sql dump.
asciilifeform: if you want anything else whatsoever, will have to fetch it manually or wget -m or whatever yer favourite method.
mod6: oh, makes sense, was just confused by :
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6 et al : same goes for the FG docs
asciilifeform: in other olds , https://archive.is/ksYSr << DIV instruction on recent intel, NOT constant-time
asciilifeform: ^ which does mean that i'ma have to a) audit the binary when ffa built for use in the field b) patch gcc/gnat not to emit DIV ☟︎
asciilifeform: annoying.
asciilifeform: i still suspect that the 'crypto on commodity iron' idea will crumble definitively if hit with even a very modest hammer...
asciilifeform: ( which is sad because commodity iron is not only cheap and plentiful but buys a very substantial nonspecificityofdiddling )
asciilifeform: incidentally when i say 'i'ma have to' it means 'you have to' because i have no intention of distributing binaries.
asciilifeform: ( imho it is braindamaged practice )
pete_dushenski: http://archive.is/1mz8v << ""The Clinton Foundation is willing to KILL to protect its secrets. So on HRC’s book tour, try to grab a hair from her. I must confirm the sequences I have. Will pay $5,000 per hair obtained from Hillary Clinton," the Facebook post stated. Although Shkreli's lawyer, Benjamin Brafman, argued the post fell under the right to free speech, Judge Matsumoto disagreed. "This is a
pete_dushenski: solicitation of assault in exchange for money,” the judge said. “That is not protected by the First Amendment.”"
asciilifeform: d00d thought 'may as well hang for a sheep as for a lamb' eh.
pete_dushenski: "because gotta kamikaze in a blaze of glory. it's last call and the bar's closing" aha
asciilifeform: 5k bounty on hair ain't exactly 'blaze of glory' tho
pete_dushenski: also, btcchina going bye-bye sept 30 http://archive.is/ulD22
asciilifeform: also why the fuck ain't he in moscow already.
asciilifeform: why sat waiting for clitler's lettre de cachet.
asciilifeform: last i heard, benjies still worked in moscow, and he had plenty of'em.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: 'china is a bug'
pete_dushenski: new yorker gunning for clitler is closest to 'blaze' that new yorker can imagine. they live in a concrete mental cage. i dunno what you want from them.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: only really need one or two exchanges for price signal anywhere in the world. what was mircea_popescu's last estimate of off-exchange trading ? 90% ? and that was a few years ago. surely > now.
asciilifeform: as i understand, d00d could have left shitreich behind and sacrificed nuffin
pete_dushenski: hardly.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i'm not convinced that the exchange ( any and all of them ) price have ANYTHING to do with actual reality ☟︎
asciilifeform: if you were buying 1mil btc, you would discover a very different price ( supposing you were even able to find where. ) and ditto selling.
pete_dushenski: shkreli stuck around nato making billions in pharma industry SO THAT HE COULD MAKE PREVIOUSLY SCAMMED INVESTORS WHOLE ☟︎
asciilifeform: y'think the 5m with which he paid bail was the last 5m in the sofa cushion ?
ben_vulpes: past couple of days of log have been brutal
asciilifeform: ohai ben_vulpes !
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: he could've left nato after founding and failing first two hedge funds, didn't. he can only be judged on this action, not on woulda-coulda-shoulda.
pete_dushenski: shkreli went all-in on usg.nato with pharma play. so there he will rot.
ben_vulpes: ohai asciilifeform
asciilifeform: i got nuffin
ben_vulpes: am retrieving your phuctor dump, will confirm hashes and check in later
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: only load it if you actually want it, naturally i have own backup
ben_vulpes: train station office era coming to a close; all sorts of crazy flying through the air
asciilifeform: announced 'dump here' because likely very soon i will have nowhere to host a multigb item, for indefinitely long time.
asciilifeform: oh and incidentally if anyone's been putting off their FG purchase, nao is not a bad time.
pete_dushenski: because ?
asciilifeform: ( naturally they will still be sold if the box vanishes, but process will be less automated and slower )
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: see raid thread
pete_dushenski: saw, didn't see how applied to fg sales
pete_dushenski: so it's slower, what's the rush ?
asciilifeform: if no rush -- can disregard
pete_dushenski: apparently some are in rush (see tx fees!) but why not in rush 6 mo ago then.
pete_dushenski: mebbe kids late to party are always rushed. do moar blow this way. 120% party in 20% of time!!1
asciilifeform: it is my policy not to ask FG buyers any questions, i have nfi why bought, whether to use as rng or fishing lure, and don't really care
asciilifeform: ( if they open conversation publicly 1st -- i will sometimes ask out of curiosity. but nobody's got to answer )
asciilifeform: so i have nfi why the tx fees etc.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Interesting, on the fence between fodder and snore. This is where fence tend to lie, so will decide in a butt.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: aite
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I thought your verdict on porshe was butt too fat for you at this time
asciilifeform: prolly only of interest to dedicated entomologist.
BingoBoingo: Of interest as indictment fodder, which is why deliberation of how to go from fence to BUILD THE WALL takes time.
asciilifeform: unrelatedly, ftr, to complete picture of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714171 >>> https://archive.is/ntT18 <<< ru patent of subj, describes exactly how worked ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 03:21 mircea_popescu: the wireball idea is sound ; the rest of the crap... notrly. i'd say it's been already fully recorded as is.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> sha512: c03c68578b522fb1a9d0406ee1cbc975d58c7dabefd80d5a6848a521a53f1f0ace910f810a6ec38d682572d3055921da0627b3d240be39cf5a9c5a6cb91255d1 << confirmed
asciilifeform: congrats mod6
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: i realise now that the issue with 911 wasn't 911 but WHICH 911. i've refined my tastes in them to gt3 variants alone. the cs/c4s/turbo are too phat butt. it's an enormous range though (20+ sub-variants), so it only figures that there'd be one that'd appeal. much like usa itself. so i'm not a fan of nyc. big whoop! hawaii is still the tits.
BingoBoingo: lol
trinque: 1979 is the correct answer.
trinque: my dad sold his, and I still talk to him even.
pete_dushenski: answer is always "when i was but a boy" or even "just before i was born and the world was still blessedly unburdened by my mortal knowledge"
pete_dushenski: 1979 is beautiful but needs mega investment to make race trackable.
trinque: I can see it.
pete_dushenski: (which is now a consideration of mine? hmm. wasn't 6 mo ago!)
BingoBoingo: Meh, get something trackable from the factory like a "Honda Fit Sport", you know it's trackable because "Sport" is in the name
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/09/usg-nsa-buggered-torrent-networks/ << Qntra - USG.NSA Buggered Torrent Networks
BingoBoingo: ^ ty alf for the pickets
pete_dushenski: trinque: can always save money on build and buy "pre-made" but then you're stuck with another man's vision of "correct 930 race car" eg. http://archive.is/tQeSY
pete_dushenski: !~ticker --market-all
jhvh1: pete_dushenski: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitfinex. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the code is a valid (1 more message)
pete_dushenski: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: pete_dushenski: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 3345.0, vol: 36150.26779993 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 3345.6, vol: 112632.50689953 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 3021.6326, vol: 21896.69080000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 3345.0, vol: 14430.387354 | Volume-weighted last average: 3307.1138672
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: tramborghini sport turbo eddie bauer edition is ultimate track-trail weapon
BingoBoingo thought eddie bauer deal was with ford so it would be a TrabanMartin or Trabguar
pete_dushenski: well usg.chrysler used to own lamborghini so it's not much of a stretch to go to usg.ford
BingoBoingo: But USG.HotPotato.Chrysler has different fashion designer associations for their inter-rectual pooperty
BingoBoingo can't recall which one Chrysler got
pete_dushenski: fiat has "gucci", chrysler has "john varvatos"
BingoBoingo: WHo?
BingoBoingo: In other Chrysler deets http://www.denverpost.com/2017/09/10/friends-speed-testing-sports-car-runway-killed/
pete_dushenski: guy who uses a lotta american symbology in his very casual clothing line. known for sneakers too.
pete_dushenski: in other server troubles, http://archive.is/gkWLz ☟︎
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: What kinda urban is he?
BingoBoingo: For the Baron shinohai https://twitter.com/dearing42/status/908149337951272960
shinohai: lol BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: Was on the big screen
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: is there a kind other than the keith ?
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Well, dark urban man-boy loving urban, Fat old cat lady urban, etc
pete_dushenski: varvatos'd be rich white kid who wants to look like he doesn't care but really does. like keith.
BingoBoingo: Meh, sounds like they didn't have much of a budget
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714297 << eh, you know how many they make ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 15:48 asciilifeform: whenever i think of cheap 100%finestchinesium officechairs, i think of the famous 'overpressure piston impalement' chair.
mircea_popescu: you've got better chances to be fucked by the boss.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714318 << the famous aeorns were plastic except for a few parts. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 16:17 asciilifeform: imho it is interesting and very pete_dushenski's-porche-esque, you can buy a $2k+ chair and still plastic.
mircea_popescu: "That sheer but resistant fabric hit on the right gestalt for where our culture was at."
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714330 << eh don't be silly, so a chair out of ten billion blew. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 16:33 mod6: i feel like im sitting on a bomb now.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714333 << much chance of survival, seeing how a state of necessity was just declared, and absent servers there's no digital. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 16:37 pete_dushenski: lovely logs these last few days btw. material science, cars, some french, shite servers, and design discussions. what doesn't #t have ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i actually had one that blew. not anally-punishingly, but 'stake' worked its way through wooden bottom.
mircea_popescu: i never saw such.
asciilifeform: prolly never saw an auto where bottom rusted off onto the pavement either, eh
mircea_popescu: lol. not outside of car cemetery no.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714392 << in fact, they have nothing to do with anything.\ ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 17:44 asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i'm not convinced that the exchange ( any and all of them ) price have ANYTHING to do with actual reality
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-mother-of-all-unexpected-visits/ << Trilema - The mother of all unexpected visits
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714452 << the elaborate pile of nonsense usg secreted. "Data was also backed up to Dropbox in huge quantities, the official said. Congressional offices are prohibited from using Dropbox, so an unofficial account was used, meaning Awan could have still had access to the data even though he was banned from the congressional network." ie, "i promise not to use computers!!!" ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 20:34 pete_dushenski: in other server troubles, http://archive.is/gkWLz
mircea_popescu: wtf, really ? what alt-planed are these schmucks from.
asciilifeform: 'but they were provided with an elaborate falsified image designed to hide the massive violations' << but a-ok when clitler lol
mircea_popescu: there was no proof!\
asciilifeform: ' Imran, Abid and Jamal Awan and Hina Alvi, Natalia Sova and Rao Abbas ' << quite the orcfest
mircea_popescu: o wait there was. well, some guy who once met trump visited a russian bath!!!1
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, cucktards hired a buncha pakis, got raped.
trinque: couldn't help but read latest trilema in the tone of "What ain't no country I've ever heard of! They speak English in What?" ☟︎
trinque: pretty entertaining
asciilifeform always pictures the anal punisher in mircea_popescu's stories speaking in the voice from his canonical ' pig farmin' '
BingoBoingo wonders what isp Eugene Alsmith works at
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: whossat?
BingoBoingo: From the trilema
asciilifeform: aaaa
asciilifeform: i'ma picture him in verizon
asciilifeform: there's one right ~next to where i live, massive fortified beauty thing circa '50s with n weeks of diesel, metre-thick walls, etc. and i know it has colo; and many times i tried to lease a cage to be met with 'no, call THEM', 'oh dontchaknow, we sold to Shitcorp last month', 'yeah this is shitco, we never heard of no colo', etc
mircea_popescu: and in other "what's #trilema not got ? a chance at surivival" news, what's the story on the chinese woman ? have we hired one yet ?
asciilifeform: do we even have a d00d who speaks cn yet ?
mircea_popescu: iirc this baby's been pregnant for long enough to make a goat by now.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that was the question.
asciilifeform: ( much less a chix )
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo honestly if anything he's moar like dick harper (jim carrey)
mircea_popescu: goodnight F!
asciilifeform: d00d uncorked his wagner an' cyanide or wut.
mircea_popescu: no idea.
pete_dushenski: anyone tried "superbithost" ? they have servers available in non-nato lands (eg. argentina, south africa, dubai), accept btc, and as of may 2017 will accept fuckgoats units by mail to the three aforementioned locales.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski if you don't stop with this sort of stupid bs ima devoice you.
asciilifeform: 'Stay Anonymous With Us!' << oh ferfuxxsake
pete_dushenski: eeks
pete_dushenski: sorry
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: at least consider ~reading~ these before posting...
asciilifeform: 'does the copy verbiage literally contain entire phrases from nsa.fleanode's 'private internet fuckery' scamolade ?' if yes -> to /dev/null -- is good firstpass cut, loses 95% of noise
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714464 << i actually had one when slaving for usg ( believe or not, was made ~mandatory~, on 'fire safety' (?!) grounds ) and disassembled in a fit of pique. arseplate -- iron. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 21:27 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714318 << the famous aeorns were plastic except for a few parts.
asciilifeform: hey Framedragger ? alive?
asciilifeform: and in other lulz, 21 distinct downloaders of the phuctor snapshot.
asciilifeform: ( not counting asciilifeform )
asciilifeform: ( some still pumping. naturally the pipe ain't THAT wide )
shinohai: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: shinohai: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 3335.0, vol: 39147.95451725 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 3339.6, vol: 121738.31380736 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2897.5, vol: 21584.99830000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 3346.4, vol: 15324.3226362 | Volume-weighted last average: 3290.97099376
BingoBoingo: Amazing what actual sorta doom and gloom news does
asciilifeform: völkischer beobachter even made sure to mention a cackling jamie dimon
asciilifeform: just like 2y ago
mircea_popescu: !!up JohnDorian
deedbot: JohnDorian voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: What does jamie dimon have to do with Francia Raisa wasting a kidney on some disney washout's lupus?
asciilifeform: waiwat
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: he's this d00d, ceo of j p morgan, stands up and does a cackling villain routine whenever btc-usd sheds some chinesium
BingoBoingo: Right, and Francia Raisa has tits that deserve the toxin clearing support offered by dual kidneys
asciilifeform: i have nfi who that is/was
mircea_popescu: o lol look at that, btc down 17%, ethereum 20, bitcoin crash 25, litecoin 30. it's like harmonics.
BingoBoingo: This is some serious gloom
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> o lol look at that, btc down 17%, ethereum 20, bitcoin crash 25, litecoin 30. it's like harmonics. << Ah yeah, just USD noise spike. All altcoins have a few of those as they die
mircea_popescu: typical tripod websites bullshit, i waited for months to float teh ECu, day fucking after they fall over each other to print different-random numbers on their guesbook visitor counters.
BingoBoingo: Well, this just means they waited too.
mircea_popescu: i guess so.
asciilifeform: lol shitcoin still quoted at 0.1224 on shitfinex
mircea_popescu: is that good for altcorn ?
asciilifeform: dunno for whom at this point, i suspect that ~everybody already traded theirs in, so nao the 'official' price can be wahtever hitler likes
mircea_popescu: if "everybody" were composed of rank idiots, yes.
mircea_popescu: fortunately for everyone, it isn't.
asciilifeform has nfi
mircea_popescu: fucking hell, even beginner bridge player understands the point of guards and what finesse is.
asciilifeform: in other noose, 2nd continuous day of aerial combat drills over dc
BingoBoingo: Always having more shoe to drop is important when dropping shoe
asciilifeform: loud, ostentatious goldentoilets, on display
BingoBoingo: But how does their exhaust smell?
mircea_popescu: they found some israeli planes they could actually fly somewhere ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i didn't climb up into sky to smell it lol
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Insufficient plastic wheel chairs for sky travel?
asciilifeform: insufficient fart thrust.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714486 << that's quite on point. as they say in what, "the mother of unexpected visits' always pregnant." ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 21:50 trinque: couldn't help but read latest trilema in the tone of "What ain't no country I've ever heard of! They speak English in What?"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'drill' appears to consist of going round and round in circles. so perhaps was not difficult to find machines that will suffice.
BingoBoingo: Gotta feed that gut flora
BingoBoingo: And bun mounted after burner
BingoBoingo: Or afterbeaner, or wtf
asciilifeform writes to umpteenth ru supposed-hoster, with canonical 'Можно ли оплатить хостинг криптовалютой Bitcoin ?' and gets the canonical 'Нет, но вы можете обменять её на рубли (или евро для серверов в Словакии)' ( i.e. pissoff )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why do you imagine shit that's dumb when pete_dushenski does it is any less dumb whewn you do it ? ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: it's fucking dumb, forget about it already.
mircea_popescu: no tmsr hosting === we just close up shop. this is not fucking clear yet ?
mircea_popescu: "oh i know, i'll just find the secret retailer nobody knows about in my quest to not fucking do the job!!!" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: braindamaged nonsense.
ben_vulpes: what is 'the job' here? make friends with dc(s) and buy/rent/rack own hardware in it/them?