mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if they had any sense it'd be one addy per email neh
mats: oh, thought it was a cock ring
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform check it out, old man won in teh supreme court. travel ban live.
phf: !#s learned a chinese
phf: there was a hairy bug in search, that didn't consider all the possibilities. though now there's a highlighting issue..
phf: (which has now been resolved)
BingoBoingo: !!deed wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/OrE8B/?raw=true
deedbot: Bad URL or network outage.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-02 22:30 asciilifeform: fwiw asciilifeform will submit ffa.rsa to be judged in mircea_popescu's symm cipher contest, supposing the latter is still running
a111: Logged on 2017-10-18 15:19 mircea_popescu: in other items of republican interest : eulora is at a stage where we have to set down what we'll use for sensitive data encryption (such as for instance the privkey files). i don't particularily wish to use aes ; anyone wants to contribute to this emerging spec ?
mircea_popescu: i put a comment in ; seared with hot irons, and hopefully alongside the indolence and self-indulgent idiocy of all days to come.
mircea_popescu: there's a whole train of "here's some efortless stuff" in there, if you've noticed, "x could be used [but i shall do no work]".
a111: Logged on 2015-01-17 22:38 asciilifeform: or, alternatively, like the choice of 'aes' over the stronger but 'slower' 'serpent' cipher, it was merely orders from lizardhitler.
mircea_popescu: no but see, we use different terminology. i do not assign anything to "code written". the source of code, to my eyes, is he in the wot who has read it.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the situation thereby is that the serpent to be used in eulora ORIGINATES with diana_coman , its reader.
mircea_popescu: who wrote it is of no consequence, that pointer will be permafixed as NIL.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 17:48 asciilifeform: in particular: no tables.
mircea_popescu: this is the iffy part with "work", that it bears definitions that often diverge from what subjective feeling's like.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 16:58 asciilifeform since release of FUCKGOATS, spent much time studying 'serpent' block cipher.
mircea_popescu: it is actually possibru she's going to use a signed item by you ? though i dun recall this being mentioned
mircea_popescu: didja read it in the proper sense, or in the "no obligations" sense ?
a111: Logged on 2017-10-18 15:35 asciilifeform: fwiw there is a quite short ada serpent existing, passes the test set ( and branch-free ).
mircea_popescu: see, here's the problem : work === "hey mp, here's the genesis & tree for the crypto item eulora needed ; now as to s.nsa's fee...". !work is anything-not-that, including ~very helpful~ side comments.
mircea_popescu: it is not to say that one (me, s.mg, diana_coman, everyone) does not benefit immensely from shooting the breeze among the intelligent&educated, as opposed to out in the cold.
mircea_popescu: however. if i don't have a neck to squeeze when something blows up no work was in fact done. that's the writing/reading distinction, code is enacted by reading, in the speciffic v sense of the term.
mircea_popescu: there's a difference between socializing (which yes, is the free exchange of valuable bits of knowledge / information) and work (which is the DIRECTED etc)
mircea_popescu: why didn't you even yesterday is the more productive question here. what exactly changed since today ?
mircea_popescu: but anyway -- i see no impediment ; or can wait for diana_coman 's published item on her blog sign then if happy, or.
mircea_popescu: yes, well, there's no practical way to negotiate ad hoc two such copies if indeed they exist. logical move is to syncronize by patience, wait for it to appear see if it's any good.
mircea_popescu: i expect it'll be patched into mpi. which she's going to also sign to genesis. sorta like how i signed mp-wp, and unlike how you didn't genesis it, or did you ?
mircea_popescu: going to construct a v tree (on the basis of her sig) that builds into eulora crypto lib.
mircea_popescu: leaving the mpi_second_cut as the basic root for further/other work also.
mircea_popescu: for some reason i was looking in 2016 era s.nsa reports
mircea_popescu: "The S.NSA entry is to be an implementation based on Cramer-Shoup. As it turns out, Cramer-Shoup has never been publicly implemented by anyone, at all."
mircea_popescu: whatever happened of that march 2016 promised cs implementation candidate cipher ?
mircea_popescu: what happened to "god damned it, i can't do this c-s i was going to do for the cipher comp because no ffa" ?
a111: Logged on 2016-04-19 16:35 asciilifeform: to which i bolted a cramer-shoup thing, and started out thinking 'i'll reuse the elgamal piece, c-s is after all a variant of elgamal' but nooooo
a111: Logged on 2016-04-19 16:37 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: c-s uses the basic parts of elgamal, hence the investigation.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-26 16:34 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-26#1529877 << timing can be 'ceilinged' and it solves problem. but i am still chewing on the problem of enemy being able to determine who is speaking to whom by deriving the public keys. (this is trivial with rsa, and i've been working on answering the q of whether is is also true for c-s)
mircea_popescu: the important parts in order of importance : 1) distress call ("god damned it") ; 2. failure discussion "i can't do this c-s i was going to do for the cipher comp". these must be present as teh header.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-09 21:53 asciilifeform: at any rate it is just as easily implemented on pmachine as rsa.
mircea_popescu: but the specific sequence is required, that's what communication is, that's how signalling works. "actually... i was going to do x for y, but can't, and won't before z". that's gotta be -- either in the comment section of the linked march 2016 report, or in the comment section of the linked contest, or i guess unideally here. but explicitly.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, because they have to attach to the item, so the item can then be followeds.
mircea_popescu: otherwise the result is that you leave it unsignalled for a coupla years and it dies out.
mircea_popescu: think of how proteins work in the body, it's exactly the same thing.
mircea_popescu: the item doesn't even exist implemented at all! still today, as then. lego blocks implementation would beat this situation.
mircea_popescu: or, to state it conversely, waiting copulation upon the perfect erection will result in a very old virgin bride, AT THE MOST. generally it will result in divorce.
mircea_popescu: it does however not answer "where the hell was the discussion of s.nsa's march 2016 promise wrt february 2016 cipher contest".
mircea_popescu: or in better terms : the conversation could have been carried in 2016, in the terms of "here's what the future looks like, wut do" rather than end-of-2017 in the terms of "here's what i don't like about how the past looks".
mircea_popescu: in general i expect it is made for ~any purpose. be it rsa, c-s, or yes, tetris.
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as it's made for being correct, it's made for whatever it'll be used for.
mircea_popescu: but that discussion was re absent submission to cipher contest ; not re your work making the ffa item you came to the conclusion is generally necessary.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the point re "it's unfortunate that open ended terms, such as one's own life, and other things, end up quite closed termed in the end" is sound. yes it's quite unfortunate, and rather regrettable. nevertheless, it's how it goes ; if i knew better in feb 2016 i'd have said "this'll be open for a coupla years". as it happens, i didn't know any better in 2016.
mircea_popescu: actually it was written with a view to having the bounty paid to nsa. it's just nsa had to actually do some things.
mircea_popescu: evidently nothing in crypto is useful without rng ; what's this to do with anything ?
mircea_popescu: (nothing in crypto is useful, either, which severely limits the rng uptake apparently -- if your crypto dun work anyway what need is rng item or somesuch)
mircea_popescu: well, they don't yet need it for anything. at least mentally. aanyways.
mircea_popescu: the implication isn't "but instead sat" necessarily. you take this altogether very personally, but there's a good dozen "crypto experts" opining importantly in the comment section there.
mircea_popescu: the deeper problem here is that the evolution of warfare has rendered a symmetric cipher useless. for the launch codes or how you call it we're mostly in consensus to use pure rsa, if memory serves, and for the prattle of eg game server, serpent will do.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is nonsense ; i even paid for you know, legal footwork if you recall.
mircea_popescu: the problem isn't the payinbg. the problem is the workdoing.
mircea_popescu: well i mean... there's an over-time tendency for btc bounties nominal value to decrease and for their fiat value to increase. this is normal, as the item grows.
mircea_popescu: well, you enjoy the freedom to work under your own direction, and a major proportion of all the gains this work produces.
mircea_popescu: the more concerning point is that ~ mircea_popescu ~ has to date made 0 btc out of all the support work he put into asciilifeform 's projects!!!
mircea_popescu: not that i'm particularly concerned, myself. i'm rich enough to not specifically care to monetize work ; trilema can be free for all i care, and i'm more than happy to minor partner with a view to a very long term.
mircea_popescu: but this outlook is a luxury, the prime luxury of life, in fact
mircea_popescu: when you think "hey, ima do the right thing, spend two years making ffa" you make some decisions. they're fine and good, inasmuch as they're yours. but to be decisions, they're the choice of something over something else.
mircea_popescu: well no, you could've alternatively delivered eulora-crypto, btmsr cipher, etcetera. evidently hindsight is more informative than foresight, and i'm not even saying you should have or anything.
mircea_popescu: but the man who decides to pursue pure research and is annoyed that industry meanwhile makes money is in a very strange mental space.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: yes ; but can you appreciate how ffa is a lot more apt for tmsr-rsa than for a simm cipher ?
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a111: Logged on 2017-05-12 03:06 asciilifeform: this type of thing is called 'day job', and it so happens that i already have one
a111: Logged on 2016-12-27 22:14 mircea_popescu: course since the nsa consulting work for minigame is going to produce ada rsa, it might be an idea to have an ~ada~ tmsr crypto lib.
mircea_popescu: ent of your own time on your part (ie, wasted it in fiatlands instead of using it productively in the republic) ? or is it a case of on the contrary, judicious use of your time ("the republic'd have made me rich but empire made me richer still") ? or is it out and out, deliberately learned helplessness in the vein of
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-29#1744043 (as recurrent throughout logs) ?
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-11-29 04:54 asciilifeform: as it is, asciilifeform couldn't even sell 1 btc in here in usgistan, even if wanted to.
mircea_popescu: or i guess is it the idea that "even had i worked full time, it'd still not have been quite enough" ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i'm guessing six digits is a large enough chunk of change it'd warrant some quite serious examination in any case.
mircea_popescu: i'm guessing the question's not yet ripe for addressing.
mircea_popescu: on which basis i predict there shall be moar облом in the future.
mircea_popescu: anyway, re the "and then in the end to take s.nsa crypto lib and use for phree anyway" portion of
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-05#1746522 : that discussion was mid and then late 2016 ; on dec 2017 i had to direct s.mg tech to CREATE rather than simply use a cripto lib. for this reason i don't wish to pay nsa anything -- it didn't do the work i wanted it to do. it's true that it released a "intangibles and goodwill" sort of
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 14:17 asciilifeform: as for asciilifeform , he would actually prefer if mircea_popescu shot straight and said 'hell no i won't pay for no stinkin' software', rather than the peculiar ritual of having a contest, then to proclaim the submitters as a whole 'self-indulgent indolent' and then in the end to take s.nsa crypto lib and use for phree anyway
mircea_popescu: item, which is generically useful, and in exchange it gets paid with the exact sort of intangibles and goodwill these sorts of intellectual leadership moves warrant and generally attract -- for example by s.mg being married to 100% of its product line to date as a deliberate move ; and being very inclined to consider its isp offering when that comes online (is it coming online btw ?) and such things.
mircea_popescu: both the "for honor" and "for money" circuits are functional and actually functioning. needn't be confused randomly.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 15:04 mircea_popescu: anyway, re the "and then in the end to take s.nsa crypto lib and use for phree anyway" portion of
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-05#1746522 : that discussion was mid and then late 2016 ; on dec 2017 i had to direct s.mg tech to CREATE rather than simply use a cripto lib. for this reason i don't wish to pay nsa anything -- it didn't do the work i wanted it to do. it's true that it released a "intangibles and goodwill" sort of
mircea_popescu: yes but there's important points there as to how things work.
trinque: went very well, thanks! went out to austin with ben_vulpes and another fellow, had a fine time.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not very clear to me how your x=y things work, BUT, if you had told me in 2016 that you intend to delay c-s ada impl by 1-2-n years to wait for ffa i'd have told you symmetric cipher really dun need ffa for any reason and eulora won't wait into 2018 for it etc.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 14:42 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so for my own curiosity : considering the choice to
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-12#1655064 (i recall a more recent mention but search isn't yielding) has cost you over the past YEAR the equivalent of what appears like 118`337 here + whatever the non-delivery of
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-27#1591437 would have amounted to (iirc no amt was ever set down ?), are you putting this down to a case of bad managem
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you're cutting bits and pieces of a thing then hurting self with them as a proof the item was dangerous. item wasn't dangerous as it was, you cut it up into harmful pieces deliberately!
mircea_popescu: why ? quit day job, dedicated to item, delivered late 2016, got prize, had 10 btc moar to name than now. how many btc has dayjob produced ? more ? less ?
mircea_popescu: well, this may well be true, and if it's true it's unfortunate.
mircea_popescu: it does also contradict at least two classes of things you say, so one never knows, but can take word for it.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-29 04:54 asciilifeform: as it is, asciilifeform couldn't even sell 1 btc in here in usgistan, even if wanted to.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-11 16:40 asciilifeform: relatedly, chinese quote 0.88 cents per 1500x sem photo; for 1x1cm die (which is estimate, i dun have an xray machine here) that works out to 1-2k usd for whole thing, depending on how many layers turn up
mircea_popescu: with class 1 the problem is that you claim bitcoin is not worth money ; with class 2 that you claim to be poor but then engage in the sort of shopping upper-middle class tech people do.
mircea_popescu: in general it dun give a very convincing picture of alf-starving-under-bridge.
trinque: teh splittings. what of splitting time between near-term unprofitable long bets on teh republic and near-term profitable ways to pay the bills.
trinque: to date, deedbot made like 0.0002, and so what? it'll make more in the future, and it'll buy more with what it made idem
☟︎☟︎ trinque: can fuck whores and ladies with the same cock
mircea_popescu: it only becomes a problem when the argument presented is "i didn't have the time to do x"
trinque: can decide the proportion each day
mircea_popescu: that opens a legitimate inquiry of, well, what didja do with the time.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 14:42 mircea_popescu: or i guess is it the idea that "even had i worked full time, it'd still not have been quite enough" ?
mircea_popescu: for to have delivered the items whose failure deliver you bemoan today.
mircea_popescu: i doubt it'd have changed at any point prior to this month, really.
mircea_popescu: well, the eulora cripto lib died when i said, iirc last month board meeting\
trinque: so heathen.incorporate and start consulting or something for 3x rate
mircea_popescu: trinque part of the problem is that fellow is ~hurt puppy, has a lot of misadventurous baggage / unfortunate experience.
trinque: sure, I went broke like five times in last decade
trinque: mostly though, was dumping it into a knob to adjust time spent in saeculum
mircea_popescu: outside of you two (admitting this is what trinque meant) i know of no people who went into consulting and lost money.
trinque: nah, I started up a thing, feeds me to this day
trinque: was saying I was willing to starve, then eat beans, then
mircea_popescu: amusingly, i also went broke numerous times, but with me it was just money.
trinque: nah, only asciilifeform wants to eat from higher minded things
mircea_popescu: there's this add-xor-roll-drop-andfuckyourmother step in ciphers
mircea_popescu: incidentally, discussion in teh very harem suggests to me that perhaps the word's misunderstood.
mircea_popescu: and how do you communicate your compassion to the bereaved ?
mircea_popescu: condoleances, yes. and how do you petition an authority ? you present a list of ... ?
mircea_popescu: alternatively, doleances. how do you say painful in english ?
mircea_popescu: which is how it got to (metaphorically) denote superlative laziness : because "so lazy not even hunger will stir", as per that "hung, father, hung".
ben_vulpes: big titties, friendly broads, women who embrace femininity...
ben_vulpes: apparently impossible to know you wasted your life in the wrong armpit of the world until you visit five others, disabuse self of "everything is equivalently terrible"
ben_vulpes: that said Real America entails far more time with ass in car than i have patience for.
ben_vulpes waves at trinque from home battlestation
trinque: y'know at least when you drive a tank around they get out of the way.
ben_vulpes: true also in communistan, visceral fear of large things in rearview apparently universal. i grew up driving a "suburban", aka "urban assault vehicle"; know full well joys of operating twuk
shinohai:
http://archive.is/W1aIA "the Independent Press Standards Organisation (Ipso) has launched a logo to reassure readers that they are being protected from fake news."
mircea_popescu: i hope it's in the shape of a T overimposed over a W. because obviously.
mircea_popescu: "Trigger Warning : you are now venturing into the dangerous waters of publications that do not extend the Clinton-Won-2016-election fanfic." Get me outta here!!!
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 17:21 asciilifeform: in other noose, remember the 'riseup' derpatron? the one with the, what, dozen phuctur pops ? well,
https://archive.is/PEVaX a111: Logged on 2016-01-04 13:52 mircea_popescu: * Tomiii (~Tommiii@garza.riseup.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets << lolwut.
shinohai: lol riseup i thought that hippy shit was ded
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 16:35 ben_vulpes: wow Real America is a hell of a place
ben_vulpes: i don't capitalize casually, asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: ah haha nono, i'd have strung together a LeverforholdingElevatorTrimAdjustmentMechanisminplacifier together in that case
ben_vulpes: years though it has been since i spent any significant time speaking/reading delang i still do not laugh
trinque: what great difference does it make whether the notation spaces the words or not
☟︎ trinque: guaranteed the folks reading de are still identifying individual words in the wads
trinque: if the tree were present it wouldn't be written in a line ltr, not that I argue against the usefulness of being able to synthesize new words.
trinque: tree (or graph really) is still in my noggin
trinque should be better about making a point rather than implying one
trinque: which was, can and should do so in english
trinque goes to find warmhungerstoppingsustenancewads
ben_vulpes: > these crytpo-collectibles are also gender-fluid, able to play the role of either the "dame" or the "sire" when bred
ben_vulpes: lolcats makin scaling hard for buterin and co
ben_vulpes: but, you know, "child pr0n in teh blockchain!"
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 14:28 mircea_popescu: but the man who decides to pursue pure research and is annoyed that industry meanwhile makes money is in a very strange mental space.
ben_vulpes: drug dealers and narcotraffickers? omai
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ben_vulpes: "Sorry my friend, you need to be logged in..."
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 17:12 asciilifeform: 'Kobi Snitz ... Early in his undergraduate studies in the early 1990's, Kobi has been introduced to the fundamental questions of computer science. These range from questions of computability and the future of computing to questions about computers and society'
mircea_popescu: the caption reads "your favourite slut is back", if that helps anything.
deedbot: apeloyee voiced for 30 minutes.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-02 22:00 mircea_popescu: !~later tell apeloyee hey, do you want a job working for minigame ?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-02 22:17 mircea_popescu: "oh but mp... really... i can't do anything, not usefully, not well, not within pre-glacial timeframes, not... not..."
apeloyee: I'd like to ask asciilifeform to document the parameter ordering convention in ffa. chapter 1 is straightforward, but the various shifts posted earlier seemed to have their parameters in order which I don't understand.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 17:39 asciilifeform: for bonus lulz ( was this intentional, mircea_popescu ? ) the example proggy, 'opera', is a closed turd
a111: Logged on 2017-12-03 23:41 asciilifeform: re gcc, recall also that it's been put on the usg hitlist, they would like to lead it to a level of dysfunction that will have naive folx welcoming its shooting behind the shed and replacement with Officially blessed clang-llvm
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 17:47 asciilifeform: orrect code! consider that alternative. programming digitalmachines is not an inductive activity, we do not play-pretend at programming, we do not 'let's see what happens' . programming is a ~deductive~ activity...' )
ben_vulpes: apeloyee: can also reference them by name in ada; i personally hate positional args
apeloyee: but ffa itself, from what I've seen, does not do that.
ben_vulpes: i will admit to still attempting to fit in head the deduction of carry and borrow algo
ben_vulpes: working out the full adder; i did verify a bunch of the proof table, and then figured that since i have such a tenuous grasp on the subject matter i should do everything asciilifeform recommended.
ben_vulpes: i also need to understand/fit in head/convince myself of the line re "extends to any N bit register".
ben_vulpes: my personal handicaps are neither here nor there, though
apeloyee: I'm still curious what gcd there will be. I admit defeat regarding the binary GCD I posted earlier - after trying to make an extended GCD out of it, it ballooned to 100+ LOC, and it doesn't work. Meaning it doesn't fit in head... (BTW the orginal code snipped I posted has a mux which always picks wrong input)
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 18:08 asciilifeform: '"There's no way on earth that the city that raised Dr. King … is going to allow ourselves to go backwards," said City Councilman Kwanza Hall.'
mircea_popescu: here's a new atlanta city bylaw : if your name is "kwanza" you go in the pens with the other barn animals.
deedbot: irene_yvonne voiced for 30 minutes.
ben_vulpes: well, irene_yvonne, who's your daddy and what does he do?
mircea_popescu: cool. so write b28052e6 on irene and e65280b2 on yvonne.
irene_yvonne: is there any extra credit for one pic with two girls? we also have a cute bitcoin poster
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 21:18 apeloyee: I'd like to ask asciilifeform to document the parameter ordering convention in ffa. chapter 1 is straightforward, but the various shifts posted earlier seemed to have their parameters in order which I don't understand.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 21:32 apeloyee: I'm still curious what gcd there will be. I admit defeat regarding the binary GCD I posted earlier - after trying to make an extended GCD out of it, it ballooned to 100+ LOC, and it doesn't work. Meaning it doesn't fit in head... (BTW the orginal code snipped I posted has a mux which always picks wrong input)
mircea_popescu: in this bitcoinarry bit ross, mr levine orlov doesn't get the GOOD leads.
mircea_popescu: yeah, so much nonsense available to choose from, why dress from the 2013 dumb store.
apeloyee: i also need to understand/fit in head/convince myself of the line re "extends to any N bit register". << schoolbook addition method shows that the MSB and carry-out depend only on MSB of operands and the carry-in to the most significant place; the carry-in can be derived from result's MSB and the summand's (as their sum modulo 2, aka xor), thus the register width doesn't matter
apeloyee: plz to be very very specific << chapter 1 is no problem.
apeloyee: asciilifeform: *I* understand.
apeloyee: there was in the old pastes, for example, one procedure FZ_ShiftLeft_O taking 5 arguments, how did you choose thier order?
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-05#1746785 << i don't get what the fuck ELSE did they imagine it's for ? normal people taking tramps in for a fuck&suck say so. that they don't say so just means they're WEIRD, it doesn't mean "it ain't gonna occur". a tramp's a tramp, a thing, like a hammer, with a proper usage implicit. aaanyway.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 18:13 asciilifeform:
https://archive.is/ogLAM << lulgem from same rag as ben_vulpes's link, 'People keep finding hidden cameras in their Airbnbs'
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 18:27 trinque: what great difference does it make whether the notation spaces the words or not
a111: Logged on 2017-12-02 18:08 asciilifeform: diana_coman: you do have a point , though, an ffa that is an ideal mathematical description of every relevant bound, would look slightly different from the ffa i actually have, that has to actually run on idjit cmachine iron in something like real time.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform honestly, i had no idea what the argument PRO overloading was.
mircea_popescu: if your problem is that you want fuck(brunette) and fuck(redhead) to be pretty much the same thing, how about calling it fuck_brunette() and fuck_redhead() instead.
apeloyee: made per apeloyee's method << lol it's simply a standard barrel shifter done in software
ben_vulpes: fuck_brunette(cunt), fuck_redhead(cunt)
ben_vulpes: question then arises, how do you know from cunt alone whether to fuck a la brunette or redhead
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's 100% 3rd world whorefare / niunamenos-ism : here's what you can have, pick.
mircea_popescu: lulzy : between feb 14 and may 15 the price dropped 90%.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform didn't we do that thing about young male's "business wet dreams" ?
mircea_popescu: i think ~every businessman in luxor center for businessmen made moar than all my creations summed together also.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what portion of this dogecoin is reality ?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 19:33 asciilifeform: representative sample, 'bloodsucking bankers and governments are unlikely to be defeated by an algorithm, no matter how clever, because they use far less technical means to enforce their interests: security agencies, criminal investigators and prosecutors, tax auditors, courts and prisons'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not beyuond the realm of the plausible that i fuck some chick and she delivers 3kgs of solid gold 9 months later, by the same measure of realms.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform words are "no matter how clever, because they use far less technical means"
apeloyee: asciilifeform: just that 5 positional arguments is a bit too much to remember, and I was asking why, say, Count is fourth, and not, e.g. second, so it would be easier to remember which is which. alternatively, can use named arguments.
mircea_popescu: other than flying in the face of both logic and evidence, sure.
mircea_popescu: but the baked in assumption is that big ape stays rational ~forever~, and this still doesn't sum up to anything good for it.
mircea_popescu: what, it's going to stay irrational EVEN LONGER THAN FOREVER ?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 19:33 asciilifeform: 'if some government decides that Bitcoin is not its friend, it can simply ask you, nicely at first, to relinquish your cyberwallet to it. I doubt that too many of the Saudi princes that were recently disencumbered of much of their net worth while being tortured by Prince Mohammed bin Salman at the Ritz-Carlton in Riyadh ended up playing coy '
mircea_popescu: if they had enough fucking sense to a) rocket field and b) bitcoin, there'd have been no hotel.
mircea_popescu: i very honestly can't begin to understand how one goes about calling self "saudi prince", but doesn't have to type in code every few hours or else riyadh is flat.
mircea_popescu: it just boggles the imagination. why ? what ELSE are they doing with their time ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno how the original ibn saud tolerated the schmucks tbh.
a111: Logged on 2015-04-07 00:10 mircea_popescu: just like having a car doesn't alow having gasoline. it's true that often people who have cars also independently have gasoline, but the two are fundamentally unrelated, and there is such a thing as the fool's breakdown, ie, car's outta gas on the side of hte road.
a111: Logged on 2016-01-10 16:52 asciilifeform: 'when i am gone, they will strangle the lot of you like kittens'
deedbot: irene_yvonne voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: totally forgot about the french twins. how's it going you two ?
ben_vulpes: nice lipstick graffiti in that first one
mircea_popescu: irene_yvonne quite ok. i take it this;d be irene then ?
irene_yvonne: i'm setting up electrum wallet as we speak, give me a few minutes and i'll give you the address
irene_yvonne: mircea_popescu: 12GLJWgNUcXSUGpv1SriZEEj1iDDuCDNBr
mircea_popescu: irene_yvonne be a few hours till trinque gets around to it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i very honestly dun see the difference (talking here of ancient opera, not hte ipadization)
irene_yvonne: mircea_popescu: the article said that this isn't one time offer. So, any other photo ideas?
mircea_popescu: irene_yvonne not at the moment, but conceivably. how did you end up on it anyway ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform glhf. can't do such, as we've discovered, with ~anything anyway.
mircea_popescu: whenever oen tries -- it doesn't. for as long as one does not try -- "it does just fine".
mircea_popescu: well, you might consider making yourself a rsa key and registering with deedbot
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the item was very much as described, ~"handwritten asm"
mircea_popescu: let me put it the proper way : one can not forbid mel from using his craft ; mel can not be required to "learn fortran" to "upgrade" and "keep with the times".
mircea_popescu: so it turns out i own much more gold than teh proponent ?
deedbot: irene_yvonne voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: thing with gold is that it doesn't take altogether much (volume) to get a kg or two
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform thing is, i could prolly sell the girls for their quite literal weight in gold, if it came to it.
mircea_popescu: wasn't this the whole pile at the hoster we discontinued ?
mod6: updated. thanks asciilifeform.
mircea_popescu: "Why exactly does a browser need to ship with any preconceived notions of how to decode video and graphics? Or audio, or text, for that matter?" << fundamentally, because we don't want to permit it to run code.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2015-10-14 20:15 asciilifeform: 'p' (draft title) - for the old pgp.
mircea_popescu: not what i meant. more like "no shell()". no leaving-frame, how shall we put it
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 23:30 asciilifeform: 32 cpu, 256GB RAM, 1TB ( 750G after raid5 ) 'samsung pro' ssd.