BingoBoingo: In other news the psyops are really cranking up in Vzla. 10+ hours sin luz in the barrios where the generals and colonels live daily since wednesday. Someone wants to bore these folks into taking to the streets
BingoBoingo: If Maduro falls I suspect it will be for a falta of GPGgrams offering to trade rum for hanbot hours of decisionmaking, but the list of countries that do shit still weight heavily towards Maduro.
BingoBoingo: NATO breaking, EU breaking, and nothing clearly resembling a bomb has dropped
mircea_popescu: kinda the sad conclusion from prior, also : you need pantsuit to decapitate orc heads, because otherwise orc heads "soberania" all over themselves and you get argentina, qatar etc.
BingoBoingo: There's noise over whether or not UAE is buying Vzla gold for good stuff in spite of being USA#1!!!, but indeterminate
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: No bear in this contest. We've got mongoloids choosing to be retarded and mongoloids born that way trying to drool it out in the ring
mircea_popescu: speaking of money, spent all day on huge harem shopping trip. i am now in possession of picture including bimbo on 8 inch platforms holding the ~$2.70 receipt for them.
BingoBoingo has a couple of very beefy dragonflies on the balcony tonight
mircea_popescu: buy the girls their weight in shit, spend on it less than what they could make on street corner in an hour. only recipe for happiness there is!
BingoBoingo: Girls can still make on the street corner in Costa Rica?
BingoBoingo: Here the girls have to go to a parada de omníbus and wait for someone who isn't too retarded to know why they aren't taking a bus.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Nah, Brasiltards are the target market, but naturally they can't hook the brasil tards because Protuguese trips the faggot signal in their ears
BingoBoingo: A few old "retire for less" folks may be in Piriapolis and Atlantida on undefendable homesteads. All the other UStards rent fast with the exception of single digit count of 20-40 year old losers selling pot under market and "teaching" english to get by
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Do you want me to specifically look for floorspace?
BingoBoingo: If there are interesting objects outside of suitcase ability and with sufficently economic need, shit can be tried
BingoBoingo: Less than a kilometer from El Puertito de Buceo to the datacenter. There are other "clubs" on the city shores.
BingoBoingo: There is more surplus cocaine paste here than the number of pichis can justify. The Powder has to be headed somewhere.
BingoBoingo: Paste only happens here because Vasquez wants to be BFFs with Morales
BingoBoingo: There's an implied circuit of transit where at least one leg is underweight
BingoBoingo: In other news, the apparently perfect mellow high yeild short time to flower marijuana genetics have been identified. None of the orcs want to bother planting it. It could unleash hell in the US and do ~nothing here
BingoBoingo: BingoBoingistan has a lack of floorspace, but any floorspace here guarentees ferrocement
BingoBoingo: The main thoroughfare 18 de Julio is dominated by old fucks running single retail stores spending the rest of their space on warehouse surrounding their showroom.
BingoBoingo: Bidding competition is the 11-12 story residential overbuilders
BingoBoingo: What materials do you want to defend your microscope in James Lafond presents Baltimore?
BingoBoingo: How many pounds of gas, how many watts of fence, how many ounces of buckshot per meter of hallway...
BingoBoingo: Girls sleeping in shifts is mostly a food cost
BingoBoingo: Today I acquired a cultural artifact known locally as a tenedor de ropa.
BingoBoingo: It fits exactly the space my AC compressor blows
BingoBoingo: I acquired it after two months of not needed the local laverdero located on this same block
BingoBoingo: With powdered determent sold by the kilogram and Latina sleeping here 3 nights a week (not taking her out of secular employment) I have a recipe for next day clean laundry.
BingoBoingo: At a cost of time, either hers or mine depending on the day of the week
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The clothes get washed in buckets, lovingly. I have the whitest socks in the barrio.
BingoBoingo: The AC compressor now does double duty drying the clothes
BingoBoingo 99.9876 percent sure no bitch from old county would convert to this less time consuming system without bloody welts
☟︎ BingoBoingo: OH, there's the food! During her "weekend" which as a nurse is the mundane middle of the week I send her with a saddam worth array of chemical weapons and half the pesos I would carry on the same adventure during the actual weekend. Then I eat well.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: No, here that requires dentist in Ukrvzla
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Working with her girlfriend on that, but... Lesbians
BingoBoingo: Not when then have mega dog protected orchard and inexplicably immobile abuelos
mats: i can't for the life of me nail down tones, might have to hire a coach to help me with pinyin
BingoBoingo: Always hire a live coach. even in Spanish, "todo bien" takes months of live practice to master the intonation.
mats: are you listening to audio at all? pimsleur's mandarin series are pretty good
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Pimsleur Spanish was exactly wrong for Uruguay, but exactly right for Vzla
mats: yes, an english sentence is followed by the transliteration
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: This week after holding the Rockchip shelf holding went well, I am offering the Peruana the gift of English. She's ear training now on old looney tunes and winnie the jaundiced pooh
BingoBoingo: Nothing beats the combination of private lessons for cultural context and the structured "don't miss anything" cause
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> and pinyin is possibly built as a joke on the 'white devil', the encoding has ~0 relation much of the time to the actual sound << FWIW Spanish doesn't work in Chile
mats: i recently bought a kobo aura h2o (1st ed) eink reader, which is 6.8in, water resistant, reads pdfs and most formats unlike the kindle (which i think requires mobi), and most importantly takes a microsd card. filled it with the books, papers, logs i've carefully saved over last 10y, still have tons of space left on a 64gb card
mats: only thing left for me to do is export my 'pocket' bookmark collection into text format (kobi has some support for pocket, but its not very good), which i haven't figured out how to do yet
BingoBoingo: Honestly at this point I care more about how to get the stoner republic of paraguay to stop dumping phosphorus on my beaches
mats: i wonder if lobbes has a portal where i can feed, say, 2k urls for archival?
☟︎ mats: how does spanish not work in chile? or is that just your way of saying linguistic drift
a111: Logged on 2019-02-02 02:23 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu could probably run one there for <dollar/day, if he felt like.
BingoBoingo: mats: All of the letters of the alphabet are different and words lose their last syllable. Very useful when playing bitches.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-02 02:38 BingoBoingo 99.9876 percent sure no bitch from old county would convert to this less time consuming system without bloody welts
BingoBoingo: Back in 2015 all the way to 2017 pantsuit had opportunities to pacify me when I sobered up. They could have probably offered me a smidge more to keep tossing bags of mulch and instead declared themselves broke. I would have also remained ignorant to the better, latin life.
BingoBoingo: the question is how many am I going to lick with salted tongue
BingoBoingo: My calves are just going to get meatier and meatier
BingoBoingo: And a proportional number of bicicletists trying to promote wheeled domination of the rambla will face "kinetics disposes"
mats: also, 'The Supreme Court’s decision in Herring v. [U.S.] authorizes police to defeat the Fourth Amendment’s protections through a process we call evidence laundering [...] when one police officer makes a constitutional mistake when gathering evidence and then passes that evidence along to a second officer, who develops it further and then delivers it to prosecutor'
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2558737 ☟︎ BingoBoingo now has next blog topic, death of superheroes
BingoBoingo: !!v EC9606ACA7C45DC2160853083508FC6C211DFC375D53D434CD7CA2CD48BE55DF
mircea_popescu: i dunno how can possibly take us "legal system" in any sort of seriousness.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-02 04:50 mats: also, 'The Supreme Court’s decision in Herring v. [U.S.] authorizes police to defeat the Fourth Amendment’s protections through a process we call evidence laundering [...] when one police officer makes a constitutional mistake when gathering evidence and then passes that evidence along to a second officer, who develops it further and then delivers it to prosecutor'
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2558737 deedbot: pehbot voiced for 30 minutes.
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shinohai: Not bad, just noticed last nite ave1's site back up so in process of building musl gnat today then on to revisiting ffa stuffs
shinohai: I was at ch. 9, but decided to go back to start and redo all, can't hurt
shinohai: I was somehwere in the "Exiting Egypt" part
mircea_popescu: all pretense to the contrary go whichever way it will ; the end result of the end of "industrial revolution" and the delusional hallucinations of the romantic 1800s is precisely what you'd expect -- ye olde villein, his wife impregnated by the lord of the manor who permits him to live on.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-29 07:00 mircea_popescu: in other words, it's perfectly fucking clear ~what exactly~ the talking cunthead dun like about venezuela, and the world in general.
mircea_popescu: there's no fucking space in the future for "choice" nor for "human dignity" understood as anything but the dignity of the precious few, and on in this vein.
mircea_popescu: either the world at large accepts #trilema and submits ; or else comes up with "its own" as if that were possible and so on.
mircea_popescu: failure or success in outreach, such as pizarro, is a larger factor than anything to do with the world, in that sense.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there evidently was an amateur hour, proof being the concept of "wedding", uniting one man and one woman in some sort of equal relationship.
mircea_popescu: the only way wedding can work, is uniting the master's concubine with the vassal. "you can only have one", ie, only one word, and only one honor.
mircea_popescu: nah. there was a brief window during which amateur efforts actually paid enough to make them competitive.
mircea_popescu: you take a view of man as spherical-chicken-in-vacuum, which is at best naive.
mircea_popescu: the only fundamental quality of man is that man can be happy in any circumstance.
mircea_popescu: consider a simple case : sovok consisted of men in positions of feudal power (such as boss of factory, chief of an office, whatever) fucking the prettier "married" women in their charge.
mircea_popescu: because, obviously, nobody wanted to be stuck with the end results of the hussies' fertility.
mircea_popescu: that they were married already, to some loser, was the best possible quality a horny 20something could bring to the table.
mircea_popescu: this is simpy naive reconstruction of the feudal system from the other end.
mircea_popescu: in more settled times, the chief of the office has a harem already, and to work in there you aspire to... ~marry one~.
mircea_popescu: which is a process that speaks ~as to your status~, not as to her.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform my point being specifically, that it IS ALREADY HAPPENING.
mircea_popescu: and yes, on occasion "new discovery -- hides this corner, voila children, whole thing gone!! believe!!!"
mircea_popescu: anyone who wants to believe is welcome to. i... i have serious problems with works of fiction, as the logs no doubt attest.
mircea_popescu: suppose you live somewhere where there grow kids (specifically, like trees, because that's how it goes -- nobody cares).
mircea_popescu: so one day, when they kick their football into your window, you, instead of giving it back (as trees, before), you... you... what do you do ? TEAR IT UP!!! is that it ?
mircea_popescu: please expand on how the corner was hidden rather than cut.
mircea_popescu: because you'd have to be an exceptionally unwordly curmudgeon to imagine you've cut anything out of this fucking worl.
mircea_popescu: not even. rather, that they invented the pill doesn't mean much changes, because the ~pretense~ was that "they're fucking your wife because they don't feel like raising her children". the TRUTH was that "the only possible way human affairs are settled is -- boss has a harem, you wish to work for boss so therefore marry one of his whores".
mircea_popescu: "but i found her before he did, and i told her she's not a whore before she was". "yes, imperfect communication systems in olde sovoke"
mircea_popescu: and this is how it worked, historically, too. contrary to loud pretense claiming otherwise, marriage created a pleb's reinterpretation of ye olde vasselage between an old man and a young'un.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you're thinking of the wrong end again, lol. lord possibly wants a dozen or a grosse concubines, and one or a dozen knaves. so he marries some of the girls off. "but what are all the OTHER boys to do ???" "keks."
mircea_popescu: from "x is the only possible function of y" dun follow that y will ever even happen, yes.
mircea_popescu: (notice, for the noob, that the woman ~is actually depicted~ in the above illustration. she happens to be quadripedal, but as #metoo taught you, this shouldn't matter IN FAIRNESS.)
mircea_popescu: "o no mp, that was the knight's own horse, which he... founded it." "i'm sure. cuz lotta loose horses about, on the king's lands."
mircea_popescu: don't tell me "grew on land king gave you" lest i fall over.
mircea_popescu: yes, red army took all morons, catastrophic desperation, not encountered in europe since long before 900ad. nevertheless.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform except, of course, if it's any kind of magical horse, with powers. then daddy gives, yes ?
mircea_popescu: somehow the stories fat frumos don't seem to include marriage by fruit of his labours "on the field". because you can't spank your own monkey into a wife anymore than you can douchebag your way into #trilema or pull yourself to moon by britches.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't believe there's necessarily an answer at all, let alone in o(1).
mircea_popescu: who was the me in all the groups of girlies before i showed up ? "a calling metaphysical", who cares.
mircea_popescu: "my bones can feel the absence though my eyes can't perceive the difference"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform imo also approached from wrong end, "here's king, story follows".
mircea_popescu: people in all times and places have this unquenchable thirst for the cheap yet dysfunctional. the whole king-fiction of medieval europe is chinesium before china were even invented by the brits.
mircea_popescu: (yes, china's AN EUROPEAN INVENTION, not some sort of "itself". wut fucking itself.)
mircea_popescu: i suspect it's a lot like drafted actor going, "what, i died three thousand dozen times on broadway stages before tonight". "yes, but you weren't serious about it."
mircea_popescu: kinda like how the magic acre goes, tho. do you know how many times it was said in broadway sheets, "this performance is eternal" ? can you recount any of them ?
mircea_popescu: MULTIPLE TIMES A FUCKING SEASON. each fucking season. like in 1919. can you even say who was the top actress of the stage, 1919 ?
mircea_popescu: produce me a list of all the actresses of whom it was said "eternal performance" in any theatrical season of your choice, before ww2 started, sau.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so if you don't credit these actresses a real history, why do you credit china a real history ?
mircea_popescu: (i'm not even proposing it can't be so credited ; i just think the question can't be handwaved.)
mircea_popescu: and yes, of course it goes straight to the core of what nationalism ~is~, very much not "a concept we no longer need" as various low level slash "moderate" socialists propose.
mircea_popescu: very much fucking needed, because otherwise how to answer ?
mircea_popescu: in any case, the notice's inescapable, that "china -- real history because real nation, just like us ; actresses, not." a lot hangs on that "just like us".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not necessarily, which is why the "musical revolution" of post great war. "atonal", right, you know it must be real music because it's not the tedious curliqued post-post-mozart nonsense.
mircea_popescu: shall i quote 1880s to you ? here : "The room was a long and lofty one, furnished in the stern uncompromising style of the Mahogany Age, now supplanted by the later fashions of decoration which, in their outset original and artistic, seem fairly on the way to become as meaningless and conventional."
mircea_popescu: "artistic" as opposed to "conventional" in much the same way you propose "authentic" oppose "coherent". but mind for a second -- if your army's based on the enemy, you have no army at all, yes ?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-13 16:20 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-12#1769922 << "You suddenly see that Shakespear, with all his flashes and divinations, never understood virtue and courage, never conceived how any man who was not a fool could, like Bunyan’s hero, look back from the brink of the river of death over the strife and labor of his pilgrimage, and say 'yet I do not repent me'; or, with the panache of a millionaire, bequeath 'my sword to him that sh
mircea_popescu: shakespeare's chinese in shaw's view, to render the matter in this discussion's terminology.
mircea_popescu: all distinction's arbitrary, granted. yet what do you distinguish, and what do you distinguish it from ?
mircea_popescu: now, how's "i do not repent me" square with the "i do repent what archeology seems to show"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's no question that cowardice, stupidty and indignity are countryless.
mircea_popescu: so yes, in the sense of the shittiest parts, they, just like us, and like everyone ever was or ever could be.
mircea_popescu: but consider -- the notion that objects "live, age, die" also dun strike you ?
mircea_popescu: what else. planets, too, stars also, everything ? what's the use of this unviersally applicable model, precisely ?
mircea_popescu: "it broadly works" "yes, it does. you know what else broadly works ? everything else children do to coo themselves to sleep"
mircea_popescu: in short, i don't mean that it dun persuade me "it's the case". it dun persuade me it's worth my time as a model.
mircea_popescu: you don't perceive the difference between the things we're discussing ?
mircea_popescu: there's no objective truth'll get you into a girl's hotpants. you realise this ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: yes, but you were adressing it by yourself in the closet.
mircea_popescu: address it out in teh open, talk of models for human society not of models for reality.
mircea_popescu: you understand this, if i and you are florentines, and you teach me the facts of life, there's a very fundamental difference between "a. get boat ; b. use lodestone, navigate ; c. find curio ; d. bring back home. e. trade for lots of dough and good things, including a desdemona ; f. strangle her for being a whore" whether i say "i don't know this lodestone model be worth my time" or i say "i dunno this strangling be worth my
mircea_popescu: objection was that it doesn't distinguish between anything and anything, not moreso than, at the most, between "the set of things about which i could be arsed to think the five minues that;d produce support for it and the set of things i wasn't yet so arsed"
mircea_popescu: the objection is that in being an universally arguable, it therefore is an universal waste of time.
mircea_popescu: well, this'll quickly devolve into semantics. how would we establish what passes ?
mircea_popescu: consider the armenians ; or the venetians. both encountered the exact same problem (not invented by them, either) : bad demographic breakdown. do you know for a fact the machined-down zulus had "enhabsburgated" ? there is such thing as "cut down in prime", why not.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: at which you'll say that "sure, the model of life includes this also" and i'll congratulate you on your great model and move on.
mircea_popescu: in exchange i'll give you this great tool : math is a great model for math. because whenever math works, math works, and also -- when doesn't... doesn't.
mircea_popescu: all hail to me, the discoverer of the last word in math.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-28 17:03 asciilifeform: with guts.
mircea_popescu: all hail to me, the discoverer of the last word in math.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-02 18:18 mircea_popescu: there's no objective truth'll get you into a girl's hotpants. you realise this ?
mircea_popescu: the discussion went "oh, you're saying it tells you nothing actionable ?" "no, i'm saying it doesn't distinguish anything" "oh, so you're saying it tells you nothing actionable"
mircea_popescu: the hotpants discussion was when you were trying to pass me chickens for cows.
mircea_popescu: you can't "give examples" as to the welfare of chickens by "accidentally having happened to pick" only cows.
mircea_popescu: that i didn't permit that proposed transitivity, and i explained it in terms of hotpants, doth not mean anything about what we were discussiong.
mircea_popescu: no dood. fails to distinguish as in, fails to distinguish. the partition it enacts upon the world is into two sets : the set of the items you invited over to play tea time with, and the set of the items you didn't [yet] so invite.
mircea_popescu: so man is this bipedal animal without feathers and with flat nails who's historical existence is the model for all things, stars, continents, societies and any other ideal object ?
mircea_popescu: "even the study of math, mp, note you i said the study not the object studied, flourishes and dies as described by my model!"
mircea_popescu: i don't even disagree! everything ever will match this model!
mircea_popescu: i am unpersuaded "man" as such is the "transnational" universal socialists want it to be.
mircea_popescu: i do not believe "the grand truths" of european descent have much import outside of a world seen through european eyes
mircea_popescu: and i do not believe china meaningfully "cycled" because "oh, look, habsburgs!!!"
mircea_popescu: it's the sort of understanding of history of the sort of people who'd rather be done with it than anything else.
mircea_popescu: nothing wrong with "the model", especially if you have no intention of being historian nor any serious interest in history.
mircea_popescu: but "the habsburgs" aren't a fucking item. who, which ? die kaisrin, habsburg ? her mother ? her eldest sister ? her eldest brother ?
mircea_popescu: gimme a break, just because an (unrelated) demented fellow built some great palaces and schonnbrun is well painted dun make some sort of answer to the questions of life.
mircea_popescu: i don't fucking posit, "oh, they were all people, and here's how peopledom goes, on basis of this example i misrecollect"
mircea_popescu: in fact, hussein bahamas could wake up tomorrow ~and no longer be~ socialist. for the simplest of reasons -- no longer meeting teh definition. whereas...
a111: Logged on 2019-02-02 18:25 mircea_popescu: consider the armenians ; or the venetians. both encountered the exact same problem (not invented by them, either) : bad demographic breakdown. do you know for a fact the machined-down zulus had "enhabsburgated" ? there is such thing as "cut down in prime", why not.
mircea_popescu: seems to me that if i take a flamethrower to a beehive or if the queen bee just fucking dies one morning you'd have DIFFERENT situations. not even then ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform demographic breakdown is what happened the first time europe nearly got wiped. "oh, you have towns and writing ? cute, here's 10e19 orcs from middle earth."
mircea_popescu: "your technology leverages you 193.446, too bad you're outnumbered 6.023e23"
mircea_popescu: sure, if we're doing the romans dun seem to fit. but we were doing " still waitin' for the counterexample"
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's deeply untrue "kind had trouble tying own shoes". the habsburg empire (to this date a model for wanna-bes, from bahamas' crowd to merkel etc) ended very much by bombsteroid dropping. but other than that, the last emperor franz as the last emperor albert-edward had a lot in common : very socialist outset.
mircea_popescu: did you, incidentally, read up on this tranby croft affair ?
mircea_popescu: this was future king going "five twerps in me enturage agreed SO THERE WAS NOTHING I COULD DO" in court of law.
mircea_popescu: guy liked playing bacarrat. guy was present at a table. others (wjho didn't like, and didn't play) picked a cheater. king... ABDICATED
mircea_popescu: cuz what the fuck do you do, when "dude, get the fuck out, i was there, IF IT HAPPENED I WOULD HAVE SEEN IT" doesn't come out ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so then, british empire was "enhabsburgated" because albert the dick ornament clearly too dumb to tie own shoes ? or was it asteroided, seeing how, well, the germans fucked them.
mircea_popescu: not so clear it's for this rathjer than "bad luck with cards", but w/e.
mircea_popescu: it's not even clear kingdoms are sufficiently similar to be discussed in those terms.
mircea_popescu: this is the fundamental chinese approach, "oh, x=y" randomly everywhere.
mircea_popescu: mno, they'd be "oh, rose is bush because in this poem they're used interchangeably".
mircea_popescu: much like "chinese have word for this european phenomenon, it's she cow pig had kittens."
mircea_popescu: no, i'm just saying the expression is ~constructed~ so as to ~by itself~ provide the universality.
mircea_popescu: if you redefine all words to mean simply "i love you", you will "live" in the most loving world imaginable.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: seems to me "china" as the mythical beast went to join "egypt". yeah, sure, used to be tall men with elegant noses that invented mapmaking.
mircea_popescu: but now, short men with pig noses that can't use maps.
mircea_popescu: "this train is too loud and it priviledges the speed of sound over other speeds much more important to us" ~cixi, 1800s.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform let me tell you a story about regulation.
mircea_popescu: so, whenever some unpleasant shit happens, such as the merchant fleet stepping on a rake, all the merchants in the burg agree : a) that nobody could have predicted it ; thus therefore b) that, individually and personally, none of them could possibly be blamed ; and thus c) some agreement should be made to in the future avoid such unplesantries.
mircea_popescu: generally this takes the refinment of "more general", just for good measure. cuz they're not a bunch of morons, see. women and children and everyone else do well to follow their wise lead!
mircea_popescu: then nature resumes its course, and guess what ? c) turns out to be costly, and getting in the way of business!
mircea_popescu: at which juncture, all teh merchants in the burg ~publicly~ agree it's a bad thing (in general, mind you!) for anything to get in the way of business and therefore clothing the poor naked whores and feeding candy to their crying spawn ;
mircea_popescu: and also privately agree they'll personally be damned if they forward this inhumane and anti-business aggenda "of other [unknown, now] morons".
mircea_popescu: this is the "economic cycle", and it's been playing out since 1800, ie, since these schmuckls got together in a burg and read newspapers.
mircea_popescu: so, to bring it back to the chinos : "they agree it serves them right", of course, of course. do you know why ? because they've seen the adults do it.
mircea_popescu: but, back to the problem, i dunno why i should credit chinese history more than i credit any other imaginary characters history. there's a history of desdemona, you know, as "brought to life" by various gals over the ages and the stages.
mircea_popescu: i'm not even sure either ; though by the fruits i judge former.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-11 17:35 mircea_popescu: russkis understood what it is they;'re copying and why. chinese -- neve rdid. in this sense, chinese copied nuke like russians copied ics.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-20 15:46 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform on meditation, that piece makes it plainly evident redditardation is ~generational~, not ideological. there sit the russki kids, who'd be in a fine position to understand the problem. god knows they have much better access to much better priors that readily illuminate it.
mircea_popescu: in any case, besides this distinction, i don't see any way to meaningfully divide people at the scale here contemplated.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> if you redefine all words to mean simply "i love you", you will "live" in the most loving world imaginable. << 2019 is shaping up to be A+++ year for logs
mircea_popescu: thus therefore, venetians long after "enhabsburgated" nevertheless nation, because venetian whores won in the bedroom the "war" charles' soldiers "won" on the field.
mircea_popescu: whereas us barbarian, because never actually raised its head out of its ass to date.
mircea_popescu: (anyone even read lardner besides fitzgerald, faulker, me an' dorothy parker ?)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform latin america much more nation than spain, that's for damn sure.
trinque: right, thought his script bootstrapped with binary gnat or something. perhaps I'm mistaken
mircea_popescu: since we're doing adaisms : it came before the minigame board that we have to make some specific decisions re the threading model.
mircea_popescu: this is of general interest as i don't expect eulora to be the last republican item with threads in it.
mircea_popescu: now, it seems to me the case that since there's little benefit in having more threads than cores, it is perfectly acceptable (in this situation) to hold these in an array set as to whatever maximum is reasonable. 32 or 64 or whatever count.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: this is much cheaper to maintain, code-wise, than some attempt at an otherwise useless "infinity" ; and in the situation where software's not really expected to work "by itself", ie, will always have someone in charge, the cost of "well, if situations change, alter the value and recompile" doesn't seem an overwhelming cost.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, it IS stock ada tasks, sure; it's not that the q
mircea_popescu: the whole point being, that if you use threading properly, which is to say -- to implement workers which eat from a queue -- then you will ahve to ~somehow count therm~. that count can be either static or dynamic, and it seems the case that dynamic count's a losing proposition.
mircea_popescu: didn't seem controversial to me either ; but still, now it's also published.
diana_coman: that's pretty much the crux of it: "infinite" comes with cost of heapism baked in, no choice
deedbot: pehbot voiced for 30 minutes.
pehbot: asciilifeform: EGGOG: Pos: 4: There is no Register 'f' !
pehbot: asciilifeform: 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001
pehbot: asciilifeform: 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001
trinque: asciilifeform: looks like ave1's script will bootstrap for you with a downloaded gnat, but the downloaded gnat wants to live on a glibc system. happily building on such.
trinque: if that's correct, the ebuild for same is going to need to be able to bootstrap with whomever's own external gnat.
mircea_popescu: this unseemliness will have to be resolved at some point
a111: Logged on 2019-02-02 18:23 asciilifeform: let's hear about the excluded counters ? e.g. is there a dynasty still going somewhere for 1000y that never enhabsburgated into idiocy ?
mircea_popescu: edmond warre (a man of absolutely no accomplishment, either intellectual or social, but merely an avid ~rowsman~, am activity the deeply ~coerced~ atmosphere at oxford "respected", much in the way sovoks "respected" marx) met pesonally (and sacked) oscar browning (a man of arguably the greatest intellectual, scholarly, and undoubtedly social accomplishment oxford of his time -- and perhaps in all time ever -- knew).
mircea_popescu: of the former, wikipedia says "He took much interest in sport at Eton, and the high standard of rowing which the Eton eights attained was due in a large measure to his coaching. His 45 years' connexion with Eton thoroughly identified him with its traditions and ideals, and, without being remarkable either as a scholar or as a teacher, he wielded a personal influence which has seldom been surpassed. "
mircea_popescu: of the latter, same fond of idiocy offers a restatement of an gallingly anonymous "If the reader is not particular about grammar and style, and is judiciously suspicious of dates, he, or more likely she, will derive both amusement and profit from Mr Browning's pages"
mircea_popescu: (this is engineered to count as an insult, because supposedly, or at least by the lights of deeply inept femtards a la virgina woolfe, this guy "hated women" because wasn't sufficiently something or the other ; and so proposing that women'd benefit off his book is like, totally, oh noes.)
a111: Logged on 2019-02-02 17:18 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not like the republic is ~avoidable~.
mircea_popescu: "CEO Bennett Greenspan claims his desire to [...] live out his fantasy of being Batman without the risk of getting punched" << oh, but how aptly put!
a111: Logged on 2019-01-30 01:02 asciilifeform: 'ru-ar' d00d described 'month -- euphoria, then reality sets in when so happens you want a faucet fixed, or tooth capped, or to buy power brick for lappy' etc
a111: Logged on 2019-02-02 21:35 mircea_popescu: now -- does oxford meet "enhabsburgated" bar ?
mircea_popescu: what, the idea's habsburgs disappeared really whereas oxford mystically and thus all the same disappeared ?
mircea_popescu: you can visit oxford today ; it stands with ye olde habsburg court in a situation of pure equivalency, and with abandoned seashells just as much.
mircea_popescu: yes but this also chisels your stand on existence all the way into nothingness.
mircea_popescu: you mean the idle schmuck that had a topless wife for an occasion once and they all threw a ridoinculous fit ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: dun tell me this became meanwhile your examplar of non-habsburgated.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-02 16:13 mircea_popescu: phf allow me to quote to you from modern tolkien : "The heir apparent, Crown Prince Maha Vajiralongkorn, is poorly regarded in Thailand and the succession has clouded the brows of not only the Thai political elite, but the Thai people, who believe a period of substantial instability will follow the King's death"
mircea_popescu: why schmuck ? i dunno, cuz multiple topless women, some of which crying, in my very kitchen. nor do the pantsuit fucking dare mention my highness by name or anything ?
mircea_popescu: that's besides the point. poorly regarded because the woman had panties on.
mircea_popescu: same exact fucking reason i think very little of the shah of brunei. thre's a word for the man who can't keep his household in line, and that word is "boy"
mircea_popescu: irrespective of blather as to how "he doesn'\t want to" or "his mother is too old for lashing" or anything else.
mircea_popescu: doesn't it strike ytou as way the fuck easier to lop some bits of fabric off a hip, than some heads off ?
mircea_popescu: there was a video included, which is why we discuss the panties-on-topless wife rather than quotes from whatever anglotard.
mircea_popescu: pretty sure it was in same timeslice. tho perhaps on qntra
mircea_popescu: im sure it's somewhere in the archives, if you must ima have it fished out
BingoBoingo: In other news, beaches occupied by crowds offering gifts to African sea gods
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Apparently what they do here instead of bothering groundhogs
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes would it be at all possible to lift your pastebin limit to say 50mb ?
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