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mircea_popescu: aaand in other highschool educations, http://78.media.tumblr.com/037f2f28a3fa86abeb3f720dc9b96e5d/tumblr_njayyc0y7s1rk5oqro1_500.gif
mircea_popescu: so i'm purging dead sites from trilema's ancient, endless indexes. there's a lot. including lulz like http://invizibili.com
BingoBoingo: In in other, really, a javascript calculator for this? https://www.expedient.com/data-center-build-vs-buy-calculator/#
mircea_popescu: java script will save us.
BingoBoingo: So, one option that is looking increasingly viable is starting ISP in Peru and moving to Brazil, because Peru is easy way into Mercosur and Brazil as continent's lone soverign appears to be Argentina on Steroids when it comes to protectionism
BingoBoingo: Or build datacenter/cybercafe around 2 year mark in Peru
BingoBoingo: Brazil indeed appears to be lax on visa overstays, but tends to burden gringo passports with stamp that rules out future travel to asia if fate points in that direction
BingoBoingo: And inmates of the big prison can only change their Brazilian visa status by returning to the big prison to deal with the consulate, because reciprocity (but for some reason reciprocity does not extend to chest x-rays for tuberculosis, at least through Chicago consulate's territory. Miami consulate may differ.)
BingoBoingo: !~later tell felipelalli Pls to offer contact information for these firms
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !!up felipelalli
deedbot: felipelalli voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: Oi, tudo bem?
felipelalli: Tudo ótimo! :)
felipelalli: Here is 1:46 am. Lol
BingoBoingo: Well, I am still learning.
felipelalli: I can send you the contacts by email?
mircea_popescu: you got his key don;t you ?
felipelalli: I don't know if they can speak English, I'll inform myself.
felipelalli: If they can't, I can try to help.
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: If they can't speak English I can learn enough protugese if they communicate by writing
felipelalli: Ok, I send to you until tomorrow by email? I'll contact them and say about you. Could you give me more information about you and your business by email? Thank you!
BingoBoingo: Pm'd the email I have been using for this search. I would like to start an Internet services business in Latin America as soon as possible with a route to permanent residency. If that means investor visa fine. If that means marrying a good looking cousin of theirs also fine.
BingoBoingo: Also I only give my Whatsapp number to girls
felipelalli: Ahah ok! I guess it would be easy to get a Brazilian residency.
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: Just remember, Brazil's competing with Peru now. Lima may not be Vila Maria, Sao Paulo; but it does have datacenter builders http://integrity.pe/#nosotros
BingoBoingo: <felipelalli> Ahah ok! I guess it would be easy to get a Brazilian residency. << Try telling that to the Brazilian consulate of Chicago
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-final-gasp-two-for-the-money/ << Trilema - The final gasp : Two for the money
shinohai: !!up cazalla
deedbot: cazalla voiced for 30 minutes.
shinohai: o/ m8
cazalla: hai
cazalla: drunk as je skunk
cazalla: cant remeember if gpg pwd on this comp or even remember it
cazalla: no matter
cazalla: i am off soon from australkiski
cazalla: soon anyway
cazalla: missus doesnt want to come but time to get out from this commmie shithole to at leat some place little bit better
cazalla: cant save country, cant save commmunity, cant save family, can save self
cazalla: sad as it is
shinohai: indeed
cazalla: stupid bitch thinks australia is safe bet, is over here
shinohai: im trying to escape the confines of murica
shinohai: asciilifeform 's tales of travel make one long for it.
cazalla: got my polish citizenship and eu passport
cazalla: so am done here
cazalla: its done here
cazalla: australia finished
cazalla: well if you try to escape 'merica
cazalla: i always thought we german, well, paternal side, but all bullshit, actually polski
shinohai: Companion wants us to visit switzerland and liechtenstein
cazalla: cost a bit but now just wait for documents and i can gtfo of this fucking commie shithole
cazalla: but stupid missus thinks safer here
cazalla: cant steal kids
cazalla: so she dooms them, not me
shinohai: :/
shinohai: sux
cazalla: oh well such is life
shinohai: Lulzy I believe I have said numerous times this was coming: http://archive.is/hhmZL
shinohai: "Hardware scam didn't work guys, let's try an ICO!!!!!"
cazalla: reply to spam
cazalla: boomers are a shoe in
cazalla: muh plan to buy apartment in poland
cazalla: go fuck fkn ukraine sluts
cazalla: maybe marry one and start family again
cazalla: even though missus pregant with 3rd bubs
cazalla: hate to admit
cazalla: maybe you get 1 good one, one special from, from 1 bubs in 10,000
cazalla: i think i read some mircea_popescu article on this before
cazalla: feels include, hard to do
cazalla: feels aside, ezmode, fuck more womens
shinohai: ls wimminz/ | grep `perfect`
cazalla: once move, maybe 3 or 4 familys, why not hehehe
cazalla: not an intellectual, may as well fuck and make babies
cazalla: this fucking bitch here
cazalla: i even go hat in hand
cazalla: say only fair i have more than 1 missus
cazalla: on account i can pay for it
cazalla: oh no
cazalla: god forbid
cazalla: god forbid one have kids to another woman
cazalla: missus is pregnantt but will make 3, i think more than fair to have another missus to make another 3 = 6 kids total here
cazalla: but tbh i want like 50 before i die, what else to do with money? porsche can stick it up the ass
shinohai: It's just increasing # of viable heirs! :D
cazalla: exactly
cazalla: im a write off
cazalla: but can fuck and if super lucky get 1 out of 10,000 worthy of the money
cazalla: dumb bitch thinks oney should be split evenly
cazalla: whho ever heard of such stupid shit
shinohai: Man this equality of the sexes thing supports so many notions of communism, lol
cazalla: not women here even worth making near even
cazalla: fat
cazalla: delisional
cazalla: poor
cazalla: fucked
cazalla: wouldnt e ven pay to fuck
cazalla: utter gutter trash, u pay me to fuck u without condom fucking bitch
cazalla: but by same token, fuck
cazalla: first child took 6 months to knock this bitch up
cazalla: 2nd child, 2 months
cazalla: mind you, by 3rd, i been going bush, lifting weights, not mich drinking, just eating meat, liver, kidney, drinking all the time
cazalla: 2 fucks and bang
cazalla: fkn woman pregnant
shinohai: There are no decent women in my location. I feel I have nothing to talk about with them - their idea of literature is the "Sweet Valley High" series or Stephanie Meyer shit.
shinohai: No one reads
shinohai: lol
cazalla: my woman
cazalla: so cute and attractive when i meet her at first
cazalla: now
cazalla: meh
cazalla: disgusting
cazalla: when i met her, i thoguht 5 years younger than me
cazalla: nw, 5 years older than me
cazalla: good mother, but bitchy even with a good fucking
cazalla: these fucking western women
shinohai: Maybe she needs drugz
cazalla: nah too straight for that
cazalla: goo heart
cazalla: but lousy fuck
cazalla: worst
cazalla: WORST
cazalla: kindest heart
cazalla: suitable mother
cazalla: but worst fuck
cazalla: best fuck?
cazalla: would've been worst mother
cazalla: fuck it all
cazalla: cant win so i am out
cazalla: my son is 4 by january, nothing out of the ordinary
cazalla: my daughter 18 months, cute but big slav head like me
cazalla: next one, unknown sex, due april 2018
cazalla: but aus law wont allow me to marry off dauigthers
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730584 << say moar re how ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 12:49 cazalla: got my polish citizenship and eu passport
cazalla: wahts the point?
cazalla: well asciilifeform
cazalla: my father born in gdansk
cazalla: my grandfrather borh reda
asciilifeform: aaa
cazalla: but drafted in wehrmacht
cazalla: but only 19
cazalla: join or die
cazalla: escaped twice
asciilifeform: volksdeutsch?
cazalla: and join allies from ussr
cazalla: was in a tank battaltion
cazalla: so polska but germanicized
cazalla: sent to eastern ront twice
asciilifeform: neato
cazalla: i dont give a fuck either way
cazalla: demmed polska, allow me polish blood citizenshio
asciilifeform does not have any ‘useful relatives’ in this sense.
cazalla: really?
asciilifeform: really.
cazalla: how so
cazalla: these polaron people dug up all types of shit on my grandparents
cazalla: i show u
asciilifeform: 100% su, and modern ru doesn’t give out nonresident passports.
asciilifeform: not unless yer a famous frenchie or similar
asciilifeform: !!up cazalla
deedbot: cazalla voiced for 30 minutes.
cazalla: ty
cazalla: https://imgur.com/a/4yZG3
cazalla: even with 23andme done
cazalla: am like 40% EE
cazalla: 2.3% german despite fathers grandfatehrs parents speaking minor german
cazalla: no data or anything but suggest maybe father father pretend to be german to get here in australia
cazalla: and bit of jewish god forbid
asciilifeform: and from strictly the 23 crackpottery, they gave you passport ?!
cazalla: 23andme
cazalla: wel no, just waiting on paperwork to be done
cazalla: but htey clai 99% success rate
cazalla: so effectively yyes
cazalla: untless in >1%
asciilifeform: i suspect scamola, or whole fucking planet could get in eu
cazalla: well they are well recommeneded
cazalla: minute i get passport
asciilifeform: usa , for starters, would empty
cazalla: im on plane and gone from this shitehole
cazalla: more usa dont have the money
asciilifeform: cazalla: do tell, if this happens
asciilifeform: what money, a few kbux ?
cazalla: 2800$aud
asciilifeform: most of usa has creditcard.
cazalla: about 2000 US
asciilifeform: lol!!
cazalla: u ever wish your parents never come to us asciilifeform ?
asciilifeform: that ain’t money
asciilifeform: cazalla: every fucking day
cazalla: it is for most people
asciilifeform: aite, would empty but for hobos
cazalla: same, i wonder if my keen eagerness to learn polski is my sense of disgust of angloness
asciilifeform: then again i’ve seen hobos with crapples and a crapple costs 3k usd.
asciilifeform: cazalla: jeszcze polska ne zginela !
cazalla: ruski realy not have jus sannguinis
asciilifeform: they do, but it’s only good for passport with a couple fewer yrs of hanging around
cazalla: didnt you come from there though
cazalla: i was even born in au
asciilifeform: su not ru
cazalla: but polaron claiming i can claim polski
asciilifeform: asciilifeform’s home town is under ukrs nao
cazalla: cant claim there?
cazalla: if i get my passport
cazalla: im buyin in some polish shit shole and going to lviv or something to find new wife nad make babies
asciilifeform: and i dun need ukrs for anything, even to visit. there’s mcdonalds on every street nao.
cazalla: as long as not fat or rich im happy
cazalla: current missus FAT and RICH
asciilifeform: ugh
cazalla: worst fuckinf wife ever
cazalla: EVER
cazalla: could have 20" dick no matter
asciilifeform: wait rich? can divorce her and plunder ??
cazalla: i have more than she can offer
cazalla: least in bitcoin
asciilifeform: aite
cazalla: my thinking is
cazalla: few apartment across poland
cazalla: 3-4
cazalla: bring 3-4 wimmenz from ukrain
cazalla: cause polish women are westernished now
cazalla: and fuck them and make babies
cazalla: IF lucky
cazalla: IF IF IF IF IF
cazalla: maybe i get 1 good offspring
asciilifeform: y’know if you have eu passport,
cazalla: im fkn borderline retarded
cazalla: these women are too
asciilifeform: can try , say, ro
cazalla: well yes
cazalla: but mircea_popescu always complaining of these people
asciilifeform: a+++ would ro again
cazalla: years
cazalla: and years
cazalla: i never hear much complain about ukraine here
cazalla: rest of europe yes
cazalla: im 36 soon
cazalla: i dont igve a fuck now
cazalla: who cares for sex
cazalla: just make babies
cazalla: if lucky
cazalla: maybe 1 good one
cazalla: smart
cazalla: like u asciilifeform
cazalla: my family fucking stupid
asciilifeform: lol
cazalla: im a bit smarter
cazalla: but still retarded
cazalla: please
cazalla: god
cazalla: give me just 1 bit smart
cazalla: wont come from down under
cazalla: i could get extra gf here
cazalla: but all fat
cazalla: if you want 9/10+ woman in australia
asciilifeform: phakt: ~nobody fat in timişoara
cazalla: need to be 6'3, 10" dick, rich, perfec 10/10 chad
cazalla: sorry i fall short, whatever
cazalla: 99,9999999% men fall short of this
cazalla: well people recommmending czesh, hungary, romania, ukraine etc for wife
cazalla: people as rooshvforum
cazalla: good as anay other tbh
asciilifeform: ( i cannot say ‘nobody’ because did in fact see an old fat gypsy at the veggie market, selling cabbages )
cazalla: i fuck anythint
cazalla: is what got me in trouble to begin with
asciilifeform: how a gypsy can get fact, remains a mystery
asciilifeform: fat
shinohai: lol cazalla
cazalla: i think fucking with money girk is good idea
shinohai: "If she got a phat ass ....."
cazalla: WORST
cazalla: once i make money
cazalla: these money women are worse than poor bbitches as they spend even more
cazalla: shinohai, my missus of 3 kids has biggest ass u ever seen
cazalla: perfect ass
cazalla: great ass
shinohai: It's impolite not to share, cazalla
asciilifeform brb, teatime
cazalla: but her father so motivated, so rich, take care of of her every concern
cazalla: she is dumb as shit
cazalla: my kids therefore
cazalla: DUMB AS SHIT
cazalla: i love my kids
cazalla: but my son like my wife
cazalla: my daguther
cazalla: BIG ASS SLAV HEAD
cazalla: no joke
cazalla: her head outrange 99% percretecile
cazalla: same problem as me as kid
cazalla: cant move head becayse head so big have plagioscphelecy
cazalla: plagiocephaly
cazalla: i have this as kid
cazalla: fixed
cazalla: daughter have this but fixed too
cazalla: at 18 months
cazalla: her head bigger than her almost 4 year old brother lol
cazalla: you just do head exercise to strengethe neck muscle
cazalla: but lucky her
cazalla: blue eyes like me
cazalla: blonde haie like me
cazalla: likely very cut
cazalla: cute
cazalla: lucky her
cazalla: i marry her off in future
cazalla: of coursh people say how sexist
cazalla: but i think make sense
cazalla: god forbid how this 3rd kid turn out
cazalla: i cant believei i fuck this woman tiwce and she pregnant
shinohai: !~ticker --market all
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cazalla: i think lies but i been full on weifht lifting and cardio past 2 years away from here, cant do both brain ad muscle, not enough blood like some here
cazalla: she always in my site anway
cazalla: even still
cazalla: women lie
cazalla: ill know if born with big head lol
shinohai imagines "Peanuts" characters for some reason ...
cazalla: fkn bs
cazalla: if my daughter or next, prob girl, my guess, is girl
cazalla: i should be able to marry off to good man if my choice
cazalla: my first daughter so beautioful
cazalla: i should leave to chance for some aussie scum to scoop her up with bs?
cazalla: u tell me
cazalla: 1 sec
asciilifeform: !!up cazalla
deedbot: cazalla voiced for 30 minutes.
cazalla: thanks
cazalla: i have gpg on some hdd around here
cazalla: obs not this one
cazalla: rarelt use
cazalla: but pwd etched in head
cazalla: rarelt need to import key
cazalla: retard like me beter not
cazalla: u know
cazalla: just incase
cazalla: get drunk and spew shit
cazalla: haha not on this hardwar
cazalla: ty asciilifeform mircea_popescu
cazalla: smarter than me
cazalla: im dumb
cazalla: but smart enough to ind smart people
cazalla: !!
cazalla: suck to be dumb
cazalla: maybe suck to be smart
cazalla: but smart enough to find the smart people
cazalla: aces baby, aces
cazalla: torture u can get
cazalla: but i guess tortue independent of anyone
cazalla: catch me if u can
cazalla: https://imgur.com/a/5pw2g
cazalla: my daugther, so beautiful, maybe fathers bias https://imgur.com/a/4ejEM
shinohai: d'aww she is kinda cute
cazalla: will brek my heart whem i leave
cazalla: but stupid nbitch wife thinks australia is #1, delusuinal
cazalla: im like
cazalla: lets go
cazalla: now
cazalla: even if rent out places
cazalla: just gtfo
cazalla: this place is fucked
cazalla: FUCKED
cazalla: but her mfaaily think everyyhjomg AOK forever anad forever
cazalla: camt imaggone being anything other than upper class
cazalla: fkn dreamers
cazalla: going to bed
cazalla: but just shows
cazalla: even good girl, religous somehat celibate , what bs term in western world, is open to corruption
cazalla: all down hill from hill
cazalla: my missus good woman
cazalla: good heart
cazalla: but still trash
cazalla: makes u realise the trash women are like http://bh-s2.azureedge.net/bh-uploads/2016/02/5-Creepy-Fun-1200x522.jpg
cazalla: seem sweet
cazalla: TURN TO UTTER EVIL
cazalla: run
cazalla: run away
cazalla: i am luckiest man in world yet runnning
cazalla: goodnight
cazalla: i think of people here often
cazalla: i owe
cazalla: some reason or other, god given, knack for finding the smart people despite being stupid
cazalla: +1 intellect to u
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730566 << per asciilifeform's research, 'residency' is pretty easy to get just short of anywhere. the 1 gotcha is that you need an actual new passport if you want to be rid of usa pederasty, and those are separate and harder puzzle. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 04:07 BingoBoingo: <felipelalli> Ahah ok! I guess it would be easy to get a Brazilian residency. << Try telling that to the Brazilian consulate of Chicago
asciilifeform: the one in ro, for instance, appears to need 8 yrs of hanging around with usa shitpassport; 4 if you have 1e6 eur to sacrifice
diana_coman: asciilifeform, iirc cyprus was selling citizenship and discounting it even; don't quite recall what was the last price though
diana_coman: I'm sure it's not even the only citizenship for sale for that matter
mod6: mornin'
diana_coman: morning mod6
mod6: how goes today?
diana_coman: chugging along, collecting some data on the mpi-sane-based rsa stuff
diana_coman: how's it going for you?
diana_coman: and otherwise tending serpents and keccaks - still working on figuring those out properly
mod6: good!
mod6: been studying ffa most of the month.
diana_coman: anyone knows a leemon baird and his hashgraph thing? it seems to be based on gossip so perhaps something interesting in there although I have to say that a first read was more like reading propaganda
mod6: i've written like 22 unit tests around various functions/procs
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730923 << it's more or less academic to asciilifeform , who is not a moneyman ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 14:32 diana_coman: asciilifeform, iirc cyprus was selling citizenship and discounting it even; don't quite recall what was the last price though
mod6: and that's working pretty great. just now digging into comba and other higher-level ones. not writing tests on those yet -- just studying, reading.
diana_coman: mod6, that sounds good
asciilifeform: mod6: lemme know if any of it dun make sense
mod6: i have a bunch of trb work queued up too -- need to put some effort into that next few weeks.
mod6: asciilifeform: sure thing, will do.
mod6: nothing has popped up yet that I haven't been able to make sense of.
asciilifeform: i'm back at my console & can answer in more or less realtime so dun hesitate to ask, mod6 .
mod6: with comba, for instance, as with others (ex. karatsuba): i tend to go and read the papers on it, then review the code and see how ffa is doing it. etc.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, well, the way I see it it anyway makes more sense to simply move where you want to be
asciilifeform: same goes for diana_coman & mpi, keccak, etc.
mod6: asciilifeform: glad you had an awesome trip!
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i can move right now, what i can't do there is have bank acct
asciilifeform: at least in the usual sense
diana_coman: o.O you mean they won't open a bank account for you?
asciilifeform: if i open in own name, it gets usg-taxed.
asciilifeform: per treaty of 2015.
asciilifeform: and most eu banks won't open one at all if the only passport you bring is usa
asciilifeform: ( see thread earlier )
diana_coman: ah, ah; so basically they even beg you to ...stop using banks?
asciilifeform: in this sense they 'beg' in usa likewise, lol
diana_coman: if you start a business there -does it also get usg-taxed?
asciilifeform: if my name is in its papers anywhere -- then yes
asciilifeform: it's a pederasty that lasts for so long as i have only usa passport.
asciilifeform: usg VERY much dislikes its inmates escaping (with 'their' moneys)
diana_coman: sounds very much like it, indeed
diana_coman: not sure though why would you actually *need* a bank account in ro
diana_coman: live happily without one (indeed happier than with one, arguably)
asciilifeform: to convert btc to food/real estate, say.
diana_coman: uhm, meet people and buy cash?
asciilifeform: ( and yes this is physically possible without banks, if your wot is developed enough to subsume the function of banks etc. but mine ain't )
diana_coman: it's not unusual in ro as far as I know
diana_coman: ah
asciilifeform: there's maybe 3 people who i trust to be physically present in a room where i bring a btc privkey. and none of them live in ro.
asciilifeform: also afaik you still need a saecular bank in the loop to buy real estate there.
asciilifeform: ( and yes there was mircea_popescu's http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728731 thread . which left me with a flavour of 'real estate ownership ain't even a thing any moar, unless you can personally afford to pay an army' ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-25 17:29 mircea_popescu: as a general rule you don't want personal property registered with the fiatistans.
asciilifeform: when i was doing the passport question homework, saw requirement 'prove that you have where to live' and 'prove you have income' . the former requires a title or lease in own human name; the latter - bank acct.
asciilifeform: no can do - no residency paper; no paper - no passport in 8y.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, not really; former requires someone to go with you and say you can live in their house/flat etc
asciilifeform: not exactly gamechanging pill for asciilifeform .
asciilifeform: and lemme guess, you can also 'prove means to live' if you walk in on a leash and owner swears he will feedya
diana_coman: ahahaha; logically it should be, yeah; but re "where to live" - you can buy a house in some village for a few thousands max, not exactly need bank either so dunno that being a huge trouble in itself; then again, each with their own problems to solve
asciilifeform: diana_coman: hmm srsly you can buy a bldg with a suitcase of moolah in ro ?
asciilifeform: what's to keep the counterparty from whacking you over the head and taking the phree gift ?
diana_coman: things might have changed but ~6 years ago when I tried (got fed up with the seller being an idiot but that's another story) they were positively NOT wanting a bank anyways; it was some 26k flat ftr
diana_coman: the story is even somewhere on the RO blog but focused on the total idiocy so not of much interest for your trouble directly
asciilifeform: so what does this look like ? walk in with suitcase of benjies, come out with plutoni^H^H^H^Htitle ?
diana_coman: asciilifeform, what can I say, people do it; guess romania is not as dangerous as it seems or something
diana_coman: go to public notary, what
asciilifeform: i did not at all get sense of 'ro is dangerous'
diana_coman: you can make pre-contract, pay advance etc
asciilifeform: it 'feels' safer than where asciilifeform lives, flavour-wise
diana_coman: anyway you need public notary for the official papers
asciilifeform: the problem is if you are a foreigner with no legal recourse.
diana_coman: go with a lawyer, I'd say
diana_coman: again, maybe things have changed in the last years, I haven't really looked at it
asciilifeform: yea that part is clear
diana_coman: anyways, we were talking "something to show as to have where to live" so a few thousands, not exactly suitcase of anything
diana_coman: I guess it might be more of a trouble if there still is that thing with "can't own land" if foreigner, dunno if even still true
diana_coman: i.e. you can own it but via company; or you can own flat/not land
asciilifeform: i'ma have to research, but i'd bet money that it is true. otherwise americans would have snapped up all of the country, and there would not exist such a thing as a 50k-usd house in timis.
asciilifeform: and entire q would then be uninteresting to asciilifeform . just like he isn't interested in buenos aires.
asciilifeform: whole thing quite resembles the 'silver coin glued to the asphalt' everyone encounters in childhood
asciilifeform: if it weren't glued, it wouldn't be there.
asciilifeform: the puzzle is how to quietly detach it from the glue.
diana_coman: anyways, why not rent? don't know about Timis precisely, but I'd be surprised if it were terribly expensive or anything
asciilifeform: because a good chunk of the attraction is the possbility of not paying rents.
asciilifeform: *possibility
asciilifeform: and actually owning something
diana_coman: ugh, you do know that there is a "property tax" in Romania, right?
asciilifeform: where isn't there ?
asciilifeform: in usa there is massive property tax
diana_coman: you mean you pay a tax calculated based on the value of each of your "owned" properties?
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: diana_coman: do you happen to know the % rate in ro ?
diana_coman: it changed in 2016 iirc; anyways,it's not 100% straightforward (nothing is like that in Ro in my opinion) but to cite:
diana_coman: Pentru clădirile rezidenţiale şi clădirile-anexă, aflate în proprietatea persoanelor fizice, impozitul pe clădiri se calculează prin aplicarea unei cote cuprinse între 0,08%-0,2%, asupra valorii impozabile a clădirii. Cota impozitului pe clădiri se stabileşte prin hotărâre a consiliului local.
diana_coman: Valoarea impozabilă a clădirii se determină prin înmulţirea suprafeţei construite desfăşurate a acesteia, exprimată în metri pătraţi, cu valoarea impozabilă corespunzătoare, exprimată în lei/mp din tabelul prevăzut de Codul fiscal.
asciilifeform: whatever it is, it would have to be , e.g., 50% ( on a theoretical 50k usd haus ) to even equal asciilifeform's current rent !!
asciilifeform: 0.2% lol!!!
diana_coman: e asemenea, valoarea impozabilă se ajustează în funcţie de rangul localităţii şi zona în care este amplasată clădirea, prin înmulţirea cu un coeficient de corecţie.
diana_coman: eh, so "correction coefficient"
asciilifeform: sounds like on anything short of a palace, it is less than my current mains current bill
diana_coman: asciilifeform, my point was that you will still be paying "rent" basically; and for 1k in Ro you do get a huge house
asciilifeform: yea but when you rent a house, orig owner can fail to renew lease, and kick you
diana_coman: eh, get serious
asciilifeform: and you generally can't make massive reworks
asciilifeform: hey it happened to me repeatedly in usa
asciilifeform: owner d00d thought he could get moar, etc
diana_coman: yeah, but ...ro is not usa
diana_coman: asciilifeform> and you generally can't make massive reworks <- this yes, though I'd be surprised you wouldn't be able to agree with landlord; more like you'll go nuts trying to get what you want from builders, but that's a different story
asciilifeform: lol builders. i am my own builder.
diana_coman: "massive reworks" meant in my head dig foundations and from there up; not that it can't be done with own hands, I know
asciilifeform: yes and all of it easily done with own hands.
asciilifeform: point being, i want to convert a pile of soon to be worthless paper, into actual ownership of something ( even as basic as machine to keep the rain out. )
diana_coman has helped own folks at reworks; not afraid of it, but not terribly fond of it either
asciilifeform: what i pay in rent in shitland right now, in 1 yr, would buy a modest house in timis. 2y would buy the house mircea_popescu described ( per his rated figure ). 3 would buy one of those dilapidated palaces.
mircea_popescu: right.
asciilifeform: ohai mircea_popescu !
mircea_popescu: hullo
asciilifeform waves from sunny liquishitistan !
mircea_popescu: lol
asciilifeform: ftr bucharest was great, exactly 'neuromancer', sky was even the colour of televisor set between channels!111
diana_coman: I keep reading that as necromancer, lol
asciilifeform: lol
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730579 << you all have in common that you take too long, and by the time you finally concede to act it's too late at best. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 12:48 cazalla: sad as it is
mircea_popescu: kinda like the dumb latino whores, going about trying to "live their life" as 30+ yos with children. cuz at 16 they believed their mulamothers, aunts and grandmothers.
asciilifeform: oh mircea_popescu btw what are mule and stramule ?
asciilifeform: i keep encountering these in trilema
asciilifeform: do i need to buy a thicker dictionary or wut
mircea_popescu: mula is romanian for a dumb female. used in trilema to denote cazalla's wife, ie a female that is a) aged herself out of the sexual market with b) nothing to show for it who c) nevertheless clings to the theory she has a say in how her life plays and d) has constructed an elaborate ideological infrastructure to accomodate the foregoingt nonsense (generally, a retelling of pantsuitism) alongside e) a social group of her exact
mircea_popescu: peers.
mircea_popescu: these are, in trilema mythology, universally blamed for young women that miss out on their slice of life.
asciilifeform: is root common with 'muie' ?
mircea_popescu: nope.
asciilifeform: hm.
mircea_popescu: muie is actually an old word for face.
mircea_popescu: mula is probably informal derivation from donkey.
asciilifeform: i recall this. but has come to mean also 'dumb whore' iirc from trilema
asciilifeform: aaaa
asciilifeform: ( mule ? )
mircea_popescu: and no, muie never denoted "old whore" on trilema.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, it means a (nominally) female result of the procreation of donkey inside mare.
mircea_popescu: generally sterile.
asciilifeform: aha in engl. 'mule'
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: (normal term for this in ro is cati^r / cati^rca~)
asciilifeform: maekssense.
mircea_popescu: and obviously stramula is her ancestor ; stra-x works to denote older-same-relative, like great- ; as bunic (grandfather) / strabunic (great-grandfather).
asciilifeform bought a bag of sov-era kidz b00kz from the gypsy fleamarker, has been enjoying
asciilifeform: *fleamarket
asciilifeform: aaa in ru 'пра-'
mircea_popescu: exactly.
asciilifeform: or de 'ur'
mircea_popescu: there's more languages than linguistic mechanisms
asciilifeform: picture if this weren't so!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ur- was coopted in artspeech to denote a typical or originating example, like trilema is the ur-blog and rome the ur-usg.
asciilifeform: i know this. was speaking of ordinary de.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that could not be so. there's also fewer cunts than dresses. if there weren't, cunt couldn't be meaningful.
mircea_popescu: i'm sorry, i meant that could not ~not~ be so.
asciilifeform: well yes we would not have concept of 'language' , it'd be like intestinal flora.
asciilifeform: and civilization - impossible.
mircea_popescu: right.
asciilifeform: hence the lul
mircea_popescu: indeed.
mircea_popescu: anyway, without a majority of mule there;d be no young hussies next year period.
mircea_popescu: the only fucking problem is that the young uns tend to listen to them as if they were people, by virtue of the indiscriminate cluelessness of youth -- they'd listen to a puppy if it could speak, on the basis of it having snuggled with them.
mircea_popescu: left to its own devices, preteen believes the tv box, too ; and shit it read on reddit and etcetera.
asciilifeform: "Народ-Богородец"
asciilifeform: ^ old ru name for concept
asciilifeform: where you need 1e6 of mircea_popescu's fathers, to make a mircea_popescu , etc
mircea_popescu: right, pop culture.
mircea_popescu: in other ancient lulz on the topic, http://trilema.com/2012/bai-ma-marit/
mircea_popescu: "- Ai de grija sa nu le faci prea destepte ca se mai mintuie specia sau ceva." <> "take care to not have daugthers too smart, lest the species ends"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730589 << this is actually a common ... "mistake" let's say. add to the "hungarian languages -> jew / romanian commerce -> anything but" also the "if you meet a german in colonial posessions, it;s a pole." ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 12:51 cazalla: i always thought we german, well, paternal side, but all bullshit, actually polski
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730598 << myeah. lulz of all fucking time ; and note how they're not "we were wrong, obviously, because we're fucktards, so now begins our seven year slave term to our betters" ; they instead "pivoted". cuz saying words is always easier and mom-state will leave the food tray next to room door. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 12:53 shinohai: Lulzy I believe I have said numerous times this was coming: http://archive.is/hhmZL
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730607 << the same is true of 10k ukrs. quality is not abundant and in no case enoughj to go around. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 12:56 cazalla: maybe you get 1 good one, one special from, from 1 bubs in 10,000
shinohai: a111: have mistresses on birth control.
shinohai: *cazalla
shinohai: lel
asciilifeform: there ain't even decent burians 'enough for everyone', much less water, air, or gurlz
asciilifeform: *burial
asciilifeform: not even fuel enough to cremate, 'for everyone'.
mircea_popescu: of all these resources the female is the most abundant nevertheless.
mircea_popescu: there's always 1.05 or so for each.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, not in china :|
mircea_popescu: diana_coman they gave it up, and guess what ? it rebounded.
mircea_popescu: the new litters are like 62-65% female
mircea_popescu: hole's almost closed by now.
mircea_popescu: incomprehensible how the cuntperl code works to balance the blocks, but it fucking balances the blocks.
mircea_popescu: 1950s it was up to 70% males in some places.
asciilifeform: iirc it was india that truly properly fucked its ratio, not china
asciilifeform: india was just unpoor enough to afford widespread spoodje centrifugation
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform india hasn't fixed it ; never will.
asciilifeform: (i.e. they dun wait-and-abort, they actually ~guarantee male)
mircea_popescu: imo "india" is an ended problem. will be 2050s colonization space.
asciilifeform: after the glass and 2-3 half-lives yea
mircea_popescu: imo more likely the males will just work and die like drones. indians are rather worthless martially.
mircea_popescu: but, future is future, not visible.
shinohai: admiral mircea_popescu, we have reports of pantsuits at sea: http://archive.is/VBDfN
mircea_popescu slowly chewing through teh log.
asciilifeform: lol that looks like a classical orlol boat , shinohai
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730643 << this might be the point every young male agrees on. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:05 shinohai: There are no decent women in my location. I feel I have nothing to talk about with them - their idea of literature is the "Sweet Valley High" series or Stephanie Meyer shit.
mircea_popescu: kinda what precipitated the age of sail.
asciilifeform: 'Appel and Fuiava, along with their two dogs, were found last week, drifting about 900 miles southeast of Japan' << lol!!
asciilifeform: dogs !!
asciilifeform: also 'radio wasn't working' but then later 'we made contact with officials on island'
asciilifeform: whole thing reads like a crock.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730678 << exactly as >> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-15#1714618 ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:11 asciilifeform: aaa
a111: Logged on 2017-09-15 00:34 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so get your citizenship, you never know when it's useful.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730714 << you've not been keeping with the news. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:19 asciilifeform: i suspect scamola, or whole fucking planet could get in eu
asciilifeform: the 'let's bring in africa for good rapefest' thing dun do much for asciilifeform
asciilifeform: unless you know how to convincingly paint him black
mircea_popescu: you categories are inadequate basis for an effectual retelling of reality.
mircea_popescu: your*
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu would not be mircea_popescu if he did not reply exactly so.
mircea_popescu: i'm thankful i get to keep mah status o.O
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730731 << polish is shockingly not-as-hard-as-the-insane-notation-promises. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:22 cazalla: same, i wonder if my keen eagerness to learn polski is my sense of disgust of angloness
mircea_popescu: !!up wywialm
deedbot: wywialm voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: polish is pretty easy if you already know a slavic lang
mircea_popescu: misplaced your key ?
mircea_popescu: !~later tell cazalla iirc wywialm is polish, maybe he shows you all the hussy watering holes then.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nfi why they hallucinated a need for 32 letters to write down a ~mostly latin sounding language. or w/e, if you prefer, very-soft-slavic.
asciilifeform: maaaaaybe because not-so-latin-sounding
asciilifeform: at least ro cut the orcograms down to 5
asciilifeform: pl has what, dozen
mircea_popescu: very. except they got A, instead of O and O, instead of U and assorted idiocies.
asciilifeform: i can tell that mircea_popescu doesn't pl much, if he thinks 'sounds latin'
mircea_popescu: "let's make grammatical rather than phonetical notation because wouldn't be dumb enough just by being dumb, gotta also advertise it"
asciilifeform: or does ru also sound latin to mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: ( per the finnish thread )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform modern ru sounds like tinto brass paid a bunch of whores from the periphery of rome to read phonetic notation of ivan's testament, yes.
asciilifeform: fwiw ro sounds to asciilifeform entirely like buncha ru d00dz speaking damaged italian
asciilifeform: which is a joy
mircea_popescu: (this is a very specific thing, watch some 60s/70s nazisploitations, get the "german" as spoken by cheap italian meat)
asciilifeform has seen.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform didja see 1860s romanian notation btw ?
mircea_popescu: back when the romanians were pole-dumb too ?
asciilifeform: i did ! in the arts museum
asciilifeform: the slavonic text on icons etc
asciilifeform: wouldja have preferred that they had germanized and lost own language entirely, like the czechs had ?
mircea_popescu: here : http://trilema.com/2011/grafia-istorica-a-limbii-romane/
mircea_popescu: not just the usual crap but also Ĭ , ŭ, ó, é, ḑ instead of fucking z, because hurr durr gotta notate the dz, ê even and so fucking following.
asciilifeform: ( for n00bz, modern czech is a conlang. in 19th c very few literate folx in present-day czechia used it, they spoke german )
mircea_popescu: experience shows they were not needed ; same EXACT goes for polish
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform croatian idem conlang, after their little war each side pretended the euros pay for translators to translate from serb to serb.
asciilifeform: hey israelis think ~vowels~ 'not needed' by same logic
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform gimme a break. the issue here is that notation MUST BE PHONETIC. never grammatical.
asciilifeform: and yes croatian is simply serbian with latinic script
mircea_popescu: grammatical notation is the same ancient idiocy keeps propping head up.
mircea_popescu: "oh, i must have a different "for" loop depending if it's long or short"
asciilifeform: yes but nobody promised anyone that roman script will cover their phonemes
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, they did so promise. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731072 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:42 mircea_popescu: there's more languages than linguistic mechanisms
mircea_popescu: nobody is going to FUCKING BOTHER with special phonemes on the long run.
mircea_popescu: seen everywhere, misr as spoken on arab tv is egyptian dialect because guess what ? same fucking reason.
asciilifeform: which side has 'special, gnarly' phonemes, and which -- Properly Righteous phonemes that must have own glyphs -- is not settled q.
mircea_popescu: bureaucracy will always try to create an unicode ; and the unicode will never matter. that's linguistics in one phrase.
mircea_popescu: polish will get 27 letters ; much like every teen cocklet will eventually get fucked. the only point of difference being that retards, so slightly later.
asciilifeform: waitasec which is 27th
mircea_popescu: #
asciilifeform: my latinatron has 26 lol
mircea_popescu: spare item to go feel special with.
asciilifeform: stickybit!1111
asciilifeform: you can do damn near anything with 26 + 1bit
mircea_popescu: aha.
asciilifeform: it's a cheat
asciilifeform: e.g. koi8 works this way.
mircea_popescu: (for lulz : h in romanian doubles as this #. because che and ce are thus distinguished into different sounds etc)
mircea_popescu: poles instead use C and C'. which is fucktarded.
asciilifeform: btw asciilifeform accomplished what asciilifeform's pet could yet not , in ro : managed to have simple 'how much' 'i'll buy 2' convos without counterparty switching to damaged english
asciilifeform: not because asciilifeform can do impeccable ro, but because he can unplug english phonemization, lol.
mircea_popescu: and wtf, "let's have no v, so then use W for V, so then use an imaginary L for v" and so on nonsense.
asciilifeform: veh.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform o hey, wd.
asciilifeform: but yes you can do ru-style , e.g. Нйю-Йорк - i.e. njoo-jork
asciilifeform: grr Нью-Йорк
mircea_popescu: in a proper language, that is.
mircea_popescu: latinotards be liek "nueva york". rly bitch ? YOU MISUNDERSTOOD EVERYTHING!
asciilifeform: cyrillic 1918-model was flexible enough to cover, e.g., kazah
asciilifeform: or even passable jp pronounciation
asciilifeform: try that with anglophonemes.
mircea_popescu: don't touch the moustache!
asciilifeform: i made mistake of buying a b00k on ro for englischers one time
asciilifeform: epic junk
asciilifeform: nao i only look at the ru b00kz
mircea_popescu: last anglo books worth reading were penned cca 70s i suspect. i can't recall finding one useful past feynman, knuth etc.
asciilifeform: laugh if you like but nowadays i even look at my ru knuth moar often than at original
asciilifeform: ( ffa work resulted in many hours deep in knuth )
mircea_popescu: all i can think of is seinfeld not understanding what books are. "they're books. once you've read them, you've read them. what do you need them for."
asciilifeform: there is a chukcha story about this
mircea_popescu: one story for each chukcha.
asciilifeform: !~google книга у меня уже есть
jhvh1: asciilifeform: Зачем мне книга - у меня уже есть одна!: Воспитание детей ...: <https://newsland.com/content/zachem-mne-kniga-u-menia-uzhe-est-odna/6044201>; "А книга у меня уже есть !" (окончание) - Книги и библиотеки ...: <http://www.libertarium.ru/16019/lib_allmaterials>; "А книга у меня уже есть !" (начало) (1 more message)
asciilifeform: ( chukcha is offered a goodb00k. replies 'but thank you, old friend, i already own a book!'
asciilifeform: )
asciilifeform: the comp, of course, has more or less made this unfunny.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730760 << keep us posted. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:28 cazalla: and fuck them and make babies
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this took the shape of ... milytsia man offered.
mircea_popescu: in rolands.
asciilifeform: lol!
mircea_popescu: dja have the "why do chukcha go about in pairs ?" "they teach one to read and the other to write" one ?
asciilifeform: nah that one only re 'ment' ( militsya man )
mircea_popescu: aok.
mircea_popescu: but do you know what the measure of inteligence is ?
asciilifeform: hm?
mircea_popescu: inteligence is measured in tsya.
mircea_popescu: care to guess how it's calibrated ?
asciilifeform: ahahahahahaha
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: it would also seem that british know this :
asciilifeform: they have a phrase,
asciilifeform: 'a whole policeman'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730769 << you know it's conceivable our needs might differ. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:28 cazalla: but mircea_popescu always complaining of these people
asciilifeform: upstack, asciilifeform came to realize that ru knuth might come with him in the launch capsule, but orig. prollynot.
asciilifeform: ( in practice, neither will, once i find/make a scan of the ru )
asciilifeform: gotta shave those grams.
mircea_popescu: what's the liftoff weight calculated at ?
asciilifeform: maybe 100kg + meat, optimistically
asciilifeform: that's approx what it was when i moved 1st time
mircea_popescu routinely gets airlines to ferry tons for him. they're generally happy to, at least the better ones, if you're willing to do it by arrangement.
asciilifeform: they will ferry megatonne! if you want to pay, lol.
asciilifeform: get an 'antonov' or the like
mircea_popescu: charge about 1/2 what courier does.
asciilifeform: it's called freight.
mircea_popescu: ie about 1500 per ton-1Mm.
asciilifeform: aha.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile fedex etc generally want 30-40.
asciilifeform: ugh that's for what, same-day ?!
asciilifeform: for 30-40 i can split it into suitcases and give 10 people phree vacation so they carry'em, lol.
mircea_popescu: well, whatever they do. same-day except it crosses borders so next week kthx.
asciilifeform: lol!!
mircea_popescu: i've never experienced same-day delivery across jurisdictions.
asciilifeform: trivial if in own hands, neh
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, the only item ever so transported as far as anyone knows is diana's dildo that one time.
asciilifeform: that and icbm cones.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform point being not own hands, yes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no icbm cone yet delivered on own power ; so no, 2weeks+ common for parts.
asciilifeform: scene from shop in ro : asciilifeform's pet fondling some kitchen apparatus. asciilifeform answers 'i do not have rocket to put this on'
mircea_popescu: pet moves on to fondling viagra packages.
asciilifeform: lol
mircea_popescu: "then get rocket, beotch!!1"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730799 << been doing a lot of that have you ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:32 cazalla: people as rooshvforum
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730804 << pro tip : 1920 poor italian women very fat. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:32 asciilifeform: how a gypsy can get fact, remains a mystery
mircea_popescu: lotta starch lotta oils.
asciilifeform: aaaaa like usa blax
mircea_popescu: quite.
asciilifeform: then surprising that i saw only 1 such.
BingoBoingo: !!up cazalla
deedbot: cazalla voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730817 << never a good idea to entertain the byproduct of uppity fathers. he wants her, he can appassionata all over her ass. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:34 cazalla: but her father so motivated, so rich, take care of of her every concern
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730820 << - >> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730833 this is definitely too early. ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:34 cazalla: DUMB AS SHIT
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:36 cazalla: at 18 months
mircea_popescu: i can't discern if 16yos will grow up into dumb or not half the time. HALF THE TIME!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730829 << the aetiology is usually mechanic not genetic. kid spends too much time laid flat. mostly due to you know, "keep baby on back lest it suddenly dies" anglo-nonsense. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:36 cazalla: plagiocephaly
asciilifeform: sorta hilarious, anglos turned the (elementary, but for some reason 'unprintable') fact that some % of females, 'apoptote' their spawn -- into a faux-epidemiological clusterfuck
mircea_popescu: it's really not clear how/why that works.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-07-10#1196745 << see also. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2015-07-10 17:56 ascii_field: most recently, when digging out the 'mother nature' infanticide study link for ben_vulpes
mircea_popescu: anyway, the obvious solution is keep baby in water.
asciilifeform: swap the water instead of diaper... genius
asciilifeform: can use standard aquarium or needs custom job, i wonder.
mircea_popescu: well there's no such thing as standard acquarium. but sure, keep the temperature reasonable, an hour or two at a stretch, can be multiple passes per day.
mircea_popescu: correct solution is to just use the spawning pool, "always a woman or two in there, and a buncha infants".
mircea_popescu: they call spawners "whales" for a reason you know.
mircea_popescu: have industrial (well, restaurant) strength garbage disposal put in for the placentae and aquajets for light play on the side, you're golden. 20-30 sqm of water amply suffices.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730886 << dawg you gotta make more human lines. wtf is this bs, three words to the line. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:57 cazalla: catch me if u can
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730888 << kid be liek, "i see through your shenanigans, sir." ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:58 cazalla: my daugther, so beautiful, maybe fathers bias https://imgur.com/a/4ejEM
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730924 << moreover, when buying citizenship, always buy the cheapest. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 14:33 diana_coman: I'm sure it's not even the only citizenship for sale for that matter
mircea_popescu: shows they have their head in the rightr place.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730958 << lmao wut! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 14:52 asciilifeform: if my name is in its papers anywhere -- then yes
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730969 << this makes no sense, does it ? you... call the operator to authorize a pre-arranged payment. way this has worked since days of fugger. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 14:58 asciilifeform: there's maybe 3 people who i trust to be physically present in a room where i bring a btc privkey. and none of them live in ro.
mircea_popescu: full example : 1. you find dood wants to buy btc ; 2. you pre-arrange time, place, values involved ; 3. you register alf-trade-0001 nick ; 4. you register a key for it with deedbot ; 5. you !!pay sum to it ; 6. you meet buyer, with that thing's key ; 7. pay or not pay, but in any case.
mircea_popescu: and obviously "you" can mean anything.
mircea_popescu wonders why he has to explain this, and why in 2017.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730970 << nah, can buy for cash. heck, can buy for personal notes. the "buying" in proper countries (ie, with torens title) is the act of registration of property ownership ; you can do that by declaration. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:00 asciilifeform: also afaik you still need a saecular bank in the loop to buy real estate there.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730975 << most kids get ro papers by having their parents say they let them stay in. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:04 diana_coman: asciilifeform, not really; former requires someone to go with you and say you can live in their house/flat etc
mircea_popescu: this is an important formative element, prolly on its way out for that very reason.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730978 << she's right, perfectly workable 2 people farm (that will feed 10) can be had in pictoresque (ie, remote) regions of eeurope, not just ro, for < 5k in cash, same-day. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:08 diana_coman: ahahaha; logically it should be, yeah; but re "where to live" - you can buy a house in some village for a few thousands max, not exactly need bank either so dunno that being a huge trouble in itself; then again, each with their own problems to solve
mircea_popescu: this is the aspirational of the arab refugees, move in work land.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730980 << you overestimate people's grit. most people who own a building imagine their biosack's "worth a lot more" than that, will not deign to risk it over such a piddly item as a sackful of dough. WHAT IF HE BITES BACK!?!?!?! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:09 asciilifeform: what's to keep the counterparty from whacking you over the head and taking the phree gift ?
mircea_popescu: for that matter, when's the last time yo usaw anyone get out of the car with a tire iron in hand ?
asciilifeform: well it dun have to be literal whack, could be dud contract or some other variant of 'you paid but dun own nuffin'
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2017/the-world-has-changed/
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform torens title. get it registered, it's done.
mircea_popescu: ro / sane places do not use contracts for real property.
asciilifeform: neato
mircea_popescu: if the op raises the slightest objection, warn once, walk on 2nd pass.
mircea_popescu: 100% objeciton means not-the-owner.
asciilifeform: this is pretty great; usa never invented torrens
mircea_popescu: usa never invented anything worth the mention.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> or even passable jp pronounciation << What about Cantonese?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: tonal
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730983 << http://ocpitimis.ro/documente.php ; #21 (last) is item of interest for you. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:10 asciilifeform: so what does this look like ? walk in with suitcase of benjies, come out with plutoni^H^H^H^Htitle ?
asciilifeform: ty mircea_popescu , will read
mircea_popescu: basically you go there with the owner, he provides all the paperwork they want, thassit.
mircea_popescu: same principle in say egypt, or anywhere else in civilised world.
mircea_popescu: (if different principle -- do reconsider "ownership" there.)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730985 << this also works well, if you own one. if you don't own one, meh. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:11 diana_coman: go to public notary, what
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730997 << this is doubtless. ustards are called tards because they are tards, not because we want or like to call them tards. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:15 asciilifeform: i'ma have to research, but i'd bet money that it is true. otherwise americans would have snapped up all of the country, and there would not exist such a thing as a 50k-usd house in timis.
mircea_popescu: and by doubtless i mean doubtful.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: tonal << Only 8 of them
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731005 << what, in romania ? come off it. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:18 asciilifeform: and actually owning something
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731019 << i never paid anything notable in property tax, even for whole buildings. typically it's the last in a sorted list of property bills, under even de-snowing services and such. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:23 asciilifeform: sounds like on anything short of a palace, it is less than my current mains current bill
mircea_popescu: your heating costs will typically outpace it by two degrees of magnitude (romania does get bitter winters, a la boston not a la wash dc)
asciilifeform: i expect that it will
asciilifeform: the diff b/w what i pay for ~fiber~ nao, and would pay there, alone, would prolly pay for small flat
mircea_popescu: and timisoara, technically is mediteranean climate, has figs. except one year there it had a winter of pure doom, people died in teh streets etc.
asciilifeform: and grapes !!
asciilifeform: everywhere !
asciilifeform: and i used to live at that parallel , know what the winter loox like.
asciilifeform actually likes winter.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2012-08-16#-318612 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2012-08-16 09:08 mircea_popescu: Luceo no joke on either score. romania interwebz is like top 5 IN THE WERLD.
asciilifeform: i saw the fat, fat spools of fiber, and billboards promising 1G/s for 9bux/mo.
asciilifeform: so i believe.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform like it sure, but still gotta heat. iirc a reasonably modern setup took me back something like $1 / cubicmeter-year.
asciilifeform: that's less than what i pay nao, by far, because today i live in a ~paper~ house.
mircea_popescu: thereabouts anyway.
mircea_popescu: yeah this was ~1m thick walls.
asciilifeform: i suspect that i pay moar for moving bits, than mircea_popescu paid for heat.
mircea_popescu: but you can have the bare-concrete matchbox flats, those are a nightmare in terms of heat efficiency. which generally why cheap.
asciilifeform: hruschebas yea
asciilifeform: i saw some in bucharest
mircea_popescu: course in many places town hall undertook some insulation work. not great afaik.
asciilifeform: can always self-made insulate, carpets & various orc solutions.
asciilifeform: but i'd be buying a freestanding thing, not a hruscheba, lol
mircea_popescu: meh.
mircea_popescu: homemade insulation like homemade contraception.
mircea_popescu: some things are better served by industrial rather than artesanal solutions.
asciilifeform does not disagree
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731021 << not at all ; for one thing you take a 3 or 5 year lease ; this works as an option -- you can stay or leave, they can;'t kick you out. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:24 asciilifeform: yea but when you rent a house, orig owner can fail to renew lease, and kick you
mircea_popescu: if concerned, add auto-renewal, they can never kick you out as long as you pay.
mircea_popescu: this, ftr, is the ONLY way rent works. anything else, see above discussion re torrens title.
mircea_popescu: not this -- not rent.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731023 << you can. provided that they are not damaging to the property (no, change is not presumptively damage) the only avenue of owner is to protest to whatever authority, which may or may not inspect, and generally will write down some subevaluation of your improvements. which the owner will be held to pay when you leave. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:24 asciilifeform: and you generally can't make massive reworks
mircea_popescu: so in general they tend not to dare.
asciilifeform: i like the idea of my recurring monthly expenses being 3fig. and this aint happening with leases.
mircea_popescu: (similar to how exams, or sentences work -- you're more than welcome to appeal, but you can end up with a worse outcome! you didn't like your 6, here's a 4. you didn't like the 5 years, here's 7.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you can prolly have something like a detached suburban house or a girl's townhouse (3 rooms, central) for three figs np.
asciilifeform: total, incl food/heat/net.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform most "independent" vagabonds with delusions of being students live on 2-300 a month you realise.
asciilifeform: i'm not 19.
mircea_popescu: you're not giving yourself much space here, "i wish to live like prince on 3x what bum spends".
asciilifeform: and intend to keep having a scum-free 4 walls and laboratory.
mircea_popescu: on 3x bum power you get... 3 bums!
asciilifeform: well no, in ro you get a house, in theory, for what a harley costs in usa.
mircea_popescu: you imagine discounted market values don't work in romania or what the fuck.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu did quote '50k usd' for the house he wrote about.
mircea_popescu: the "harley worth" place in romania will rent in romania for what the harley leases for in the us. wtf.
mircea_popescu: which is this ?
asciilifeform: the one with the square lawn that mircea_popescu cut with electric grass cutter
asciilifeform: and where he boiled old hdds in tomato compote
mircea_popescu: to link plox.
mircea_popescu: when referencing, we reference!
asciilifeform: i'ma come back to this, it is buried in l0gz.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731027 << same exact http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731342 as before -- if you own a construction crew, yes. otherwise, no. ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:26 diana_coman: asciilifeform> and you generally can't make massive reworks <- this yes, though I'd be surprised you wouldn't be able to agree with landlord; more like you'll go nuts trying to get what you want from builders, but that's a different story
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 17:17 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730985 << this also works well, if you own one. if you don't own one, meh.
mircea_popescu: and this is generally a point -- if you want quality sex work done, you bring your own whores. and so following.
mircea_popescu: own people and rent land works da fuck better of trying to pretend like you own land on rented people.
mircea_popescu: if the medieval mercenary experience taught us anything.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731030 << don't be silly, renting excavator is like 50 bux a day, no questions asked. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:27 asciilifeform: yes and all of it easily done with own hands.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's expertise re real estate reminds me of construction expert recommending diesel-powered circular saws to escaping prisoner. zek does not have diesel saw, or electric, zek has a length of band saw smuggled in anally.
mircea_popescu: dude... i went into the lot, asked for the boss, they pointed me to the office-latrine, i was like "i want an excavator" he was like "50 a day" "i was like here" then he pointed out the window to machinery.
mircea_popescu: did not fucking bother to ask if i can even drive it.
asciilifeform: oh re excavator i entirely believe.
mircea_popescu: could have used it to dig out the local jandarmerie building.
mircea_popescu: they wouldn't have even shot at me, i'm 100% sure, just got out of the way and scratched heads wtf.
asciilifeform: fwiw in usa can also rent excavator. but it's 500 not 50 / d.
mircea_popescu: maybe. doubt it tho. for one thing -- gotta have union worker.
asciilifeform: naaaah
mircea_popescu: doubt you can rent it for cash either.
asciilifeform: can rent. my neighbour at prev street kept a stable of'em.
mircea_popescu: well that's nice then.
asciilifeform: what was not-so-nice in ro is that money changers take copy of passport
asciilifeform: felt quite like usa.
mircea_popescu: fantozzi once famously went shopping brought his shit back home in an excavator, with a fleet of dozen cabs following. cuz rich!
asciilifeform: i wondered if because to prosecute false coiners, or because usg demands record, or both
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that was in a trilema i recall !
mircea_popescu: natl bank demands record.
mircea_popescu: im sure it was.
asciilifeform: they had this very elaborate contraption for supposedly ferreting out faek benjies
asciilifeform: took forever to chug
asciilifeform: i sat there and wondered how often american banx dispense pseudobenjies to unsuspecting idjits
asciilifeform: btw found thread, mircea_popescu is right, quoted cost was 80 not 50 : http://btcbase.org/log/2015-09-07#1264870 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2015-09-07 03:12 mircea_popescu: had the option to buy it for like 80k, which i didn't take.
asciilifeform: still not megabux
asciilifeform: and asciilifeform does not need quite as many cubometres as mircea_popescu .
mircea_popescu: in other news, i bought some lillies yest, maybe 1-2 kgs or so for like 2 bux. decided i liked them, sent girl to buy out the shop.
mircea_popescu: i now have about 7 ppk lilly, it's fragrant.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform also was an option to me. iirc they were trying to retail it to rando sucker for 105 or such.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> well no, in ro you get a house, in theory, for what a harley costs in usa. << Which harley? This is the 1.2k to 100.2k question
mircea_popescu: but no, certainly not megabux.
mircea_popescu: a further 3 to 5x away from the original 3x the bum's fare. which is how this works, after all.
asciilifeform: i will note, for non-usaschwitz readers, that if you want a 80k BRICK house in usa, it will be in 1) baltimore 2) with all food vendor in 100km being 'food depot' ( see thread from last july ) 3) no 1mB/s, much less gB/s, fiber, for any price
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo similarily to "whcih house", we presume these matched.
mircea_popescu: romania also has the "million dollar condo flat" delusion, on like calea victoriei in bucharest etc. similar to moscow seattle what have you
asciilifeform: there are idjits in any country neh.
mircea_popescu: there'd better be.
asciilifeform: i saw ads in timis, 'win a flat in bucharest!'
asciilifeform: they were, unsurprisingly, near the american reservation
asciilifeform: ( mall thing )
mircea_popescu: most usg-once-removed corps are trying hard to advertise bucharest.
mircea_popescu: aha.
asciilifeform: anyway 80 is same weight class as 50 : what a nice truck costs in usa.
mircea_popescu: but the dubious advantage ("historic building!!!") is readily blown out by much nicer historical buildings in ancient civilised lands. get a palace in sibiu rather than a an ex brothel from the time of carol in bucharest.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i will note, for non-usaschwitz readers, that if you want a 80k BRICK house in usa, it will be in 1) baltimore 2) with all food vendor in 100km being 'food depot' ( see thread from last july ) 3) no 1mB/s, much less gB/s, fiber, for any price << Nah dawg. We have a handful of 75-85k brick houses within 20 minute walk of BingoBoingo's seat. Catch is small, 1950's foundation on slab idiocy
asciilifeform: in usa you get a cardboard box for 500-900k.
asciilifeform: and with petroroquefort to eat.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: rowhouse ain't a house.
BingoBoingo: Within municipal fiber zone even
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Even have yards on all 4 sides of house
asciilifeform: and are in stlouis lol
BingoBoingo: Nah, in the burbs
asciilifeform: i fucking hate burbs.
BingoBoingo: Well, the exeburbs.
BingoBoingo: The burbs are still longer walk.
BingoBoingo: Stl is day and a half walk.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: picture, there are barely any guards even in museums. folx leave doors unlocked.
asciilifeform: resembles perhaps usa in 1910s.
asciilifeform: or whenever they last had proper lynchings.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730654 << you know, there's no substantial difference betwene a bunch of idle idiots hanging around tardstalk type 1 and "consensus"-ing that bitcoin "needs larger blocks" and a not-even-different bunch of idle idiots hanging around tardstalk type n and "consensus"-ing that "deze western women". ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:07 cazalla: these fucking western women
mircea_popescu: harem is mostly the very same western women with no visible drawback.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Door left unlocked here too, we don't have the urban folk to necessitate much locking
mircea_popescu: how did that expression go, "i like to encourage intruders"
asciilifeform: in theory there is no difference between u-235 and u-238; just take out the extra pieces!1111
asciilifeform: in practice -- difference.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> how did that expression go, "i like to encourage intruders" << AHA, chainsaw!
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i was saving this for the travelogue, but will give 1 interesting example: the flagpoles in timis, have no locks on the winch.
asciilifeform: in usa -- always lock.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the folks with unlocked doors are often married galz trying to get cazalla a 3rd while he's not looking mmkay
asciilifeform: possibly
asciilifeform: i can't think of any other plausible theory.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: What is this lock on winch. Either flagpole is on ground and has knot, or on roof and has lock to roof because lulzsuits
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: over here -- locks
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2017/the-plumber-rampant/ ftw
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform the folks with unlocked doors are often married galz trying to get cazalla a 3rd while he's not looking mmkay << Also lonely old people who are afraid lock door means they'll miss family's visits
mircea_popescu: jesus that's sad
asciilifeform: also asciilifeform's mind was blown by the timis parks that are open 24/7
asciilifeform: and not locked at dusk
asciilifeform: and playgrounds with chillunz in'em at 2300 hrs
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Surprisingly common story from the dope girls looking to stop doping
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: How do they lock you parks in Bmore? Do they hang a cable all the way around and pray to Petrus?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: gates, + cop car will prod anyone found within to move
asciilifeform: in dc suburbia typically just the latter, too poor to fence in parks
mircea_popescu: this sounds like the set of a bad action movie.
BingoBoingo: Then how do people fish when they fish are actually biting?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's usa .
asciilifeform: aka set of bad movie.
asciilifeform: the worst movie ever made.
mircea_popescu: i dunno dood, i personally got head in park in this usa of yours.
asciilifeform: it's not physically impossible
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu said he had bought plutonium in the same park -- i would also believe.
BingoBoingo: Park's generally where teenage guy takes girl to get head first time
mircea_popescu: it wasn't in any sense challenging. certainly no cop car twirliong about
asciilifeform: but what you can't do there, is to not step on the detritus left behind by hooting, hollering 'human' detritus
mircea_popescu: (i'd have asked how much with the love-hotel-with-lights for an hour)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> but what you can't do there, is to not step on the detritus left behind by hooting, hollering 'human' detritus << What, your parks don't have department of picking up after park?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform maybe that\s why they close them then, too much work to keep clean.
asciilifeform: other phunphakt : no anti-bum spikes on benches in timis
asciilifeform: because 0 bums.
asciilifeform: ( where they put the bums ? i do not know. possibly all hiding inside the abandoned machine shop. )
asciilifeform: in major usa urban landscale ( nyc, dc, chicago, bmore , etc ) ~every physical space that can hold a bum, holds a bum
asciilifeform: doorways, unspiked benches, steam grates.
asciilifeform: *landscape
asciilifeform: i dun even have anything against proper bums.
asciilifeform: but i did enjoy the absense of 'people with no indoor voice', hollering, barfing, smashing public fixtures, etc
mod6: there have been people straight up shitting in the train-station garbage cans here lately.
mod6: entire edifice covered in hobo-piss
asciilifeform: mod6: i did see a d00d pissing over one of them habsburg bridges. but he was no moar hobo than i.
asciilifeform: and it was cleanly into the river, not on the stone.
asciilifeform: now on the outskirts of the old town there is an abandoned communist-era latrine, where the fixtures have been removed, but folx still come and piss on the floor.
asciilifeform: iirc one of the folx in c2 even made use of one of these.
asciilifeform: but it is inoffensive, not comparable to piss in lifts or trains imho.
asciilifeform: for some reason the city hall locked most of the working public latrines. though i found that they had unlocked the ones in the marktplatz.
BingoBoingo eating minutiea of BGP today
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it's pretty lulzy. picture gossipd but 0 even attempt at crypto, and you nearly have it.
BingoBoingo: It's very lulzy, even with its own size crisis to boot!
asciilifeform: ( speaking of crypto, usg lulz http://archive.is/7UnjC >> label 'no backdoors' == 'extremist crypto' nao )
asciilifeform: ^ complete with megatonne of perverse and pseudolegalistic jesuitry, almost custom trololol for mircea_popescu .
asciilifeform: been a long time since i read quite this degree of keyescrow-pantsuitistry, at any rate.
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 6328.19, vol: 12820.82939930 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 6324.4, vol: 35664.65234663 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 6334.0, vol: 3600.43990801 | Volume-weighted last average: 6325.99649986
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: out of curiosity, ever actually been to the tropics ?
asciilifeform: prior to moving, i'd consider visit
asciilifeform: iirc they gave yer passport back, neh
asciilifeform: what's a round trip cost, a kilo ?
BingoBoingo: Passport back, round trip to interesting places costs ~2.5 kilo. For Brazil in particular it costs extra 2-4 weeks of passport in mail and their hands, because reciprocity.
asciilifeform: oh another phunphakt for BingoBoingo : timis and bucharest both, appear to run on smoke. as in, ~everybody is smoking ~all of the time.
BingoBoingo: Ah, entire cities of concrete finishers!
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun get it, can't go to consulate and buy a visa ?
BingoBoingo: If go to consulate still takes ~1-2 weeks of passport in their hands. Brazil is very serious about reciprocity.
asciilifeform: this must be a recent thing
asciilifeform: ( that, or BingoBoingo misread. )
asciilifeform: at any rate in his place i'd find a way to go there, prior to proposing marriages / corp shenanigans etc.
asciilifeform: maybe BingoBoingo finds that he cannot abide the mosquitoes, whoknows.
BingoBoingo: Nah, Brazil does to would be visitors to what others do to would be visitors from. This is why Peru is becoming interesting as other place with fiber so long things needing fiber stay in Lima.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Mosquitos exist here to. Sao Paulo is decently far south. Anyways, the white man is programmed to respond to climate aversity through colonization.
BingoBoingo: From other tropics: "Justice Scott Crichton penned a brief opinion concurring in the court’s decision not to hear the case. He wrote, apparently in absolute seriousness, that “the defendant’s ambiguous and equivocal reference to a ‘lawyer dog’ does not constitute an invocation of counsel that warrants termination of the interview."
asciilifeform: lolwat
BingoBoingo: Quirk of Lousiana law, one cannot ask for a "lawyer, dawg". Must be interpreted phonetically.
trinque finally gave in and put the IRC node back on a server.
mod6: ohmahgerd extreme encryption!
mod6 laughs
shinohai: < 90 days, already gotta fork it! http://archive.is/cMYYT
asciilifeform: 'upgrade is designed to stabilize the problematic difficulty adjustment algorithm' << lol!!
asciilifeform: woah shitcoin pumped to 0.07
asciilifeform: somebody, astonishingly, still gives a fuck
davout: in soviet bitcoinlandia, forkers fork you
shinohai: lel
shinohai: !!up felipelalli
deedbot: felipelalli voiced for 30 minutes.
davout: reddit's confusion over buttcash's fork is very entertaining
asciilifeform bbl, meat
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731531 <<< pretty extreme trololol indeed ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 18:52 asciilifeform: ( speaking of crypto, usg lulz http://archive.is/7UnjC >> label 'no backdoors' == 'extremist crypto' nao )
davout: "The assumption among these parties and organizations is largely that the potentially enormous adverse consequences are not their problem, and there are no legal consequences to their actions."
davout: (speaking about folks... encrypting their comms)
davout: i guess these idiots win if you spend time reading their nonsense
shinohai: We win when lulzing, then continuing about our bidness
BingoBoingo: !!up felipelalli
deedbot: felipelalli voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: In other news, Peru's girls of OKC are very helpful.
shinohai: see if any are !~tits worthy BingoBoingo .... last 2 participants were subpar.
BingoBoingo: In time shinohai, priority 1 is rackspace and residency.
shinohai: True.
shinohai: Rackspace + Residency, then Revelry
davout: rackspace, rackpix, same diff
BingoBoingo: diff, which I why I am looking to be able to walk to rack
felipelalli: Hi BingoBoingo !
BingoBoingo: Oi, tudo bem?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731527 << it's on trilema, they decided to destroy the proper, sewage-connected items and replace at significant cost with ustardian boxes like for concerts etc. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 18:39 asciilifeform: for some reason the city hall locked most of the working public latrines. though i found that they had unlocked the ones in the marktplatz.
mircea_popescu: orcs gotta colony.
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: tudo ótimo! :) send me an email telling more details about your project / business and goals, and I can introduce it to any of the accountant companies I told you.
BingoBoingo: Oh, I thought you were sending contact information over?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731532 << i really dun follow the idiocy. they can say whatever, in the end what matters is what matters and the jews are not on the voice list. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 18:58 asciilifeform: ^ complete with megatonne of perverse and pseudolegalistic jesuitry, almost custom trololol for mircea_popescu .
mircea_popescu: felipelalli BingoBoingo what are you two dicking about with already ? gpg -aer name ; put it in p.benvulpes.com and that is all you need.
mircea_popescu: if you don't have the keys, !!key name and then gpg --import.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731544 << everyone is, as a result of usg militant tardation. i can just drive into brazil. you -- can not. they "banned" turkish visitors, as if anyone from turkey could be arsed to go to the us ; turkey reciprocated, meaning about 70% of classical antiquity is now off limits to what in english passes for "the civilised world". ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 19:28 BingoBoingo: If go to consulate still takes ~1-2 weeks of passport in their hands. Brazil is very serious about reciprocity.
mircea_popescu: and so on.
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: Por favor, criptografe as informações de contato para as empresas na minha chave pública. Cole o text em p.benvulpes.com
felipelalli: Ok BingoBoingo! Just wait some minutes, I'll finish the dinner.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731551 << lmao. sop SOPS. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 19:43 BingoBoingo: From other tropics: "Justice Scott Crichton penned a brief opinion concurring in the court’s decision not to hear the case. He wrote, apparently in absolute seriousness, that “the defendant’s ambiguous and equivocal reference to a ‘lawyer dog’ does not constitute an invocation of counsel that warrants termination of the interview."
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731557 << the endearing derpitude. srsly, these schmucks think anyone gives a shit about their bitcent dead fork ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 20:43 shinohai: < 90 days, already gotta fork it! http://archive.is/cMYYT
BingoBoingo: Hey, the glass must crack up as safely as possible http://trilema.com/2016/the-next-generation/
BingoBoingo: Identical half bit-centimeters for all alts
mircea_popescu: heh.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, this is very bullish for the problems of altcoin
BingoBoingo: In other news, the fake news media is misgendering a Home Depot Load-n-go truck as a "uhaul" in their reporting on a NYC aloha snackbar
BingoBoingo: "The driver then stepped from the vehicle, brandishing what appeared to be firearms and shouting. Witnesses described hearing him shout "Allahu Akbar," a phrase that's used in a variety circumstances but which is also frequently yelled by Islamic extremists committing acts of violence. "
mircea_popescu: !#s "coinsmarketnews"
a111: 0 results for "\"coinsmarketnews\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22coinsmarketnews%22
mircea_popescu: hm.
mircea_popescu: well, it died meanwhile. but apparently never mentioned.
BingoBoingo: Yet another "lawyer dog" because SOPs https://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-outfit-behind-pirate-site-reincarnations-171028/
mircea_popescu: sigh. we've gained a bonus remora now ?
BingoBoingo: Clock's not long on this one