BingoBoingo: So, one option that is looking increasingly viable is starting ISP in Peru and moving to Brazil, because Peru is easy way into Mercosur and Brazil as continent's lone soverign appears to be Argentina on Steroids when it comes to protectionism
BingoBoingo: Or build datacenter/cybercafe around 2 year mark in Peru
BingoBoingo: Brazil indeed appears to be lax on visa overstays, but tends to burden gringo passports with stamp that rules out future travel to asia if fate points in that direction
BingoBoingo: And inmates of the big prison can only change their Brazilian visa status by returning to the big prison to deal with the consulate, because reciprocity (but for some reason reciprocity does not extend to chest x-rays for tuberculosis, at least through Chicago consulate's territory. Miami consulate may differ.)
BingoBoingo: !~later tell felipelalli Pls to offer contact information for these firms
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
deedbot: felipelalli voiced for 30 minutes.
felipelalli: I don't know if they can speak English, I'll inform myself.
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: If they can't speak English I can learn enough protugese if they communicate by writing
felipelalli: Ok, I send to you until tomorrow by email? I'll contact them and say about you. Could you give me more information about you and your business by email? Thank you!
BingoBoingo: Pm'd the email I have been using for this search. I would like to start an Internet services business in Latin America as soon as possible with a route to permanent residency. If that means investor visa fine. If that means marrying a good looking cousin of theirs also fine.
BingoBoingo: Also I only give my Whatsapp number to girls
felipelalli: Ahah ok! I guess it would be easy to get a Brazilian residency.
BingoBoingo: <felipelalli> Ahah ok! I guess it would be easy to get a Brazilian residency. << Try telling that to the Brazilian consulate of Chicago
☟︎ deedbot: cazalla voiced for 30 minutes.
cazalla: cant remeember if gpg pwd on this comp or even remember it
cazalla: i am off soon from australkiski
cazalla: missus doesnt want to come but time to get out from this commmie shithole to at leat some place little bit better
cazalla: cant save country, cant save commmunity, cant save family, can save self
cazalla: stupid bitch thinks australia is safe bet, is over here
shinohai: im trying to escape the confines of murica
shinohai: asciilifeform 's tales of travel make one long for it.
cazalla: got my polish citizenship and eu passport
☟︎ cazalla: well if you try to escape 'merica
cazalla: i always thought we german, well, paternal side, but all bullshit, actually polski
☟︎ shinohai: Companion wants us to visit switzerland and liechtenstein
cazalla: cost a bit but now just wait for documents and i can gtfo of this fucking commie shithole
cazalla: but stupid missus thinks safer here
shinohai: "Hardware scam didn't work guys, let's try an ICO!!!!!"
cazalla: muh plan to buy apartment in poland
cazalla: maybe marry one and start family again
cazalla: even though missus pregant with 3rd bubs
cazalla: maybe you get 1 good one, one special from, from 1 bubs in 10,000
☟︎ cazalla: i think i read some mircea_popescu article on this before
cazalla: feels aside, ezmode, fuck more womens
cazalla: once move, maybe 3 or 4 familys, why not hehehe
cazalla: not an intellectual, may as well fuck and make babies
cazalla: say only fair i have more than 1 missus
cazalla: on account i can pay for it
cazalla: god forbid one have kids to another woman
cazalla: missus is pregnantt but will make 3, i think more than fair to have another missus to make another 3 = 6 kids total here
cazalla: but tbh i want like 50 before i die, what else to do with money? porsche can stick it up the ass
shinohai: It's just increasing # of viable heirs! :D
cazalla: but can fuck and if super lucky get 1 out of 10,000 worthy of the money
cazalla: dumb bitch thinks oney should be split evenly
cazalla: whho ever heard of such stupid shit
shinohai: Man this equality of the sexes thing supports so many notions of communism, lol
cazalla: not women here even worth making near even
cazalla: utter gutter trash, u pay me to fuck u without condom fucking bitch
cazalla: first child took 6 months to knock this bitch up
cazalla: mind you, by 3rd, i been going bush, lifting weights, not mich drinking, just eating meat, liver, kidney, drinking all the time
shinohai: There are no decent women in my location. I feel I have nothing to talk about with them - their idea of literature is the "Sweet Valley High" series or Stephanie Meyer shit.
☟︎ cazalla: so cute and attractive when i meet her at first
cazalla: when i met her, i thoguht 5 years younger than me
cazalla: good mother, but bitchy even with a good fucking
cazalla: would've been worst mother
cazalla: my son is 4 by january, nothing out of the ordinary
cazalla: my daughter 18 months, cute but big slav head like me
cazalla: next one, unknown sex, due april 2018
cazalla: but aus law wont allow me to marry off dauigthers
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 12:49 cazalla: got my polish citizenship and eu passport
cazalla: so polska but germanicized
cazalla: sent to eastern ront twice
cazalla: i dont give a fuck either way
cazalla: demmed polska, allow me polish blood citizenshio
cazalla: these polaron people dug up all types of shit on my grandparents
deedbot: cazalla voiced for 30 minutes.
cazalla: 2.3% german despite fathers grandfatehrs parents speaking minor german
cazalla: no data or anything but suggest maybe father father pretend to be german to get here in australia
cazalla: and bit of jewish god forbid
cazalla: wel no, just waiting on paperwork to be done
cazalla: but htey clai 99% success rate
cazalla: well they are well recommeneded
cazalla: im on plane and gone from this shitehole
cazalla: more usa dont have the money
cazalla: u ever wish your parents never come to us asciilifeform ?
cazalla: same, i wonder if my keen eagerness to learn polski is my sense of disgust of angloness
☟︎ cazalla: ruski realy not have jus sannguinis
cazalla: didnt you come from there though
cazalla: but polaron claiming i can claim polski
cazalla: im buyin in some polish shit shole and going to lviv or something to find new wife nad make babies
cazalla: as long as not fat or rich im happy
cazalla: current missus FAT and RICH
cazalla: could have 20" dick no matter
cazalla: i have more than she can offer
cazalla: few apartment across poland
cazalla: bring 3-4 wimmenz from ukrain
cazalla: cause polish women are westernished now
cazalla: maybe i get 1 good offspring
cazalla: im fkn borderline retarded
cazalla: but mircea_popescu always complaining of these people
☟︎ cazalla: i never hear much complain about ukraine here
cazalla: if you want 9/10+ woman in australia
cazalla: need to be 6'3, 10" dick, rich, perfec 10/10 chad
cazalla: sorry i fall short, whatever
cazalla: 99,9999999% men fall short of this
cazalla: well people recommmending czesh, hungary, romania, ukraine etc for wife
cazalla: is what got me in trouble to begin with
cazalla: i think fucking with money girk is good idea
cazalla: these money women are worse than poor bbitches as they spend even more
cazalla: shinohai, my missus of 3 kids has biggest ass u ever seen
shinohai: It's impolite not to share, cazalla
cazalla: but her father so motivated, so rich, take care of of her every concern
☟︎ cazalla: her head outrange 99% percretecile
cazalla: cant move head becayse head so big have plagioscphelecy
cazalla: daughter have this but fixed too
cazalla: her head bigger than her almost 4 year old brother lol
cazalla: you just do head exercise to strengethe neck muscle
cazalla: of coursh people say how sexist
cazalla: god forbid how this 3rd kid turn out
cazalla: i cant believei i fuck this woman tiwce and she pregnant
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cazalla: i think lies but i been full on weifht lifting and cardio past 2 years away from here, cant do both brain ad muscle, not enough blood like some here
cazalla: she always in my site anway
cazalla: ill know if born with big head lol
shinohai imagines "Peanuts" characters for some reason ...
cazalla: if my daughter or next, prob girl, my guess, is girl
cazalla: i should be able to marry off to good man if my choice
cazalla: my first daughter so beautioful
cazalla: i should leave to chance for some aussie scum to scoop her up with bs?
deedbot: cazalla voiced for 30 minutes.
cazalla: i have gpg on some hdd around here
cazalla: ty asciilifeform mircea_popescu
cazalla: but smart enough to ind smart people
cazalla: but smart enough to find the smart people
cazalla: but i guess tortue independent of anyone
cazalla: will brek my heart whem i leave
cazalla: but stupid nbitch wife thinks australia is #1, delusuinal
cazalla: but her mfaaily think everyyhjomg AOK forever anad forever
cazalla: camt imaggone being anything other than upper class
cazalla: even good girl, religous somehat celibate , what bs term in western world, is open to corruption
cazalla: i am luckiest man in world yet runnning
cazalla: i think of people here often
cazalla: some reason or other, god given, knack for finding the smart people despite being stupid
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 04:07 BingoBoingo: <felipelalli> Ahah ok! I guess it would be easy to get a Brazilian residency. << Try telling that to the Brazilian consulate of Chicago
diana_coman: asciilifeform, iirc cyprus was selling citizenship and discounting it even; don't quite recall what was the last price though
☟︎ diana_coman: I'm sure it's not even the only citizenship for sale for that matter
☟︎ diana_coman: chugging along, collecting some data on the mpi-sane-based rsa stuff
diana_coman: and otherwise tending serpents and keccaks - still working on figuring those out properly
mod6: been studying ffa most of the month.
diana_coman: anyone knows a leemon baird and his hashgraph thing? it seems to be based on gossip so perhaps something interesting in there although I have to say that a first read was more like reading propaganda
mod6: i've written like 22 unit tests around various functions/procs
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 14:32 diana_coman: asciilifeform, iirc cyprus was selling citizenship and discounting it even; don't quite recall what was the last price though
mod6: and that's working pretty great. just now digging into comba and other higher-level ones. not writing tests on those yet -- just studying, reading.
mod6: i have a bunch of trb work queued up too -- need to put some effort into that next few weeks.
mod6: asciilifeform: sure thing, will do.
mod6: nothing has popped up yet that I haven't been able to make sense of.
mod6: with comba, for instance, as with others (ex. karatsuba): i tend to go and read the papers on it, then review the code and see how ffa is doing it. etc.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, well, the way I see it it anyway makes more sense to simply move where you want to be
mod6: asciilifeform: glad you had an awesome trip!
diana_coman: o.O you mean they won't open a bank account for you?
diana_coman: ah, ah; so basically they even beg you to ...stop using banks?
diana_coman: if you start a business there -does it also get usg-taxed?
diana_coman: not sure though why would you actually *need* a bank account in ro
diana_coman: live happily without one (indeed happier than with one, arguably)
a111: Logged on 2017-10-25 17:29 mircea_popescu: as a general rule you don't want personal property registered with the fiatistans.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, not really; former requires someone to go with you and say you can live in their house/flat etc
☟︎ diana_coman: ahahaha; logically it should be, yeah; but re "where to live" - you can buy a house in some village for a few thousands max, not exactly need bank either so dunno that being a huge trouble in itself; then again, each with their own problems to solve
☟︎ diana_coman: things might have changed but ~6 years ago when I tried (got fed up with the seller being an idiot but that's another story) they were positively NOT wanting a bank anyways; it was some 26k flat ftr
diana_coman: the story is even somewhere on the RO blog but focused on the total idiocy so not of much interest for your trouble directly
diana_coman: asciilifeform, what can I say, people do it; guess romania is not as dangerous as it seems or something
diana_coman: you can make pre-contract, pay advance etc
diana_coman: anyway you need public notary for the official papers
diana_coman: again, maybe things have changed in the last years, I haven't really looked at it
diana_coman: anyways, we were talking "something to show as to have where to live" so a few thousands, not exactly suitcase of anything
diana_coman: I guess it might be more of a trouble if there still is that thing with "can't own land" if foreigner, dunno if even still true
diana_coman: i.e. you can own it but via company; or you can own flat/not land
diana_coman: anyways, why not rent? don't know about Timis precisely, but I'd be surprised if it were terribly expensive or anything
diana_coman: ugh, you do know that there is a "property tax" in Romania, right?
diana_coman: you mean you pay a tax calculated based on the value of each of your "owned" properties?
diana_coman: it changed in 2016 iirc; anyways,it's not 100% straightforward (nothing is like that in Ro in my opinion) but to cite:
diana_coman: Pentru clădirile rezidenţiale şi clădirile-anexă, aflate în proprietatea persoanelor fizice, impozitul pe clădiri se calculează prin aplicarea unei cote cuprinse între 0,08%-0,2%, asupra valorii impozabile a clădirii. Cota impozitului pe clădiri se stabileşte prin hotărâre a consiliului local.
diana_coman: Valoarea impozabilă a clădirii se determină prin înmulţirea suprafeţei construite desfăşurate a acesteia, exprimată în metri pătraţi, cu valoarea impozabilă corespunzătoare, exprimată în lei/mp din tabelul prevăzut de Codul fiscal.
diana_coman: e asemenea, valoarea impozabilă se ajustează în funcţie de rangul localităţii şi zona în care este amplasată clădirea, prin înmulţirea cu un coeficient de corecţie.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, my point was that you will still be paying "rent" basically; and for 1k in Ro you do get a huge house
diana_coman: asciilifeform> and you generally can't make massive reworks <- this yes, though I'd be surprised you wouldn't be able to agree with landlord; more like you'll go nuts trying to get what you want from builders, but that's a different story
☟︎ diana_coman: "massive reworks" meant in my head dig foundations and from there up; not that it can't be done with own hands, I know
diana_coman has helped own folks at reworks; not afraid of it, but not terribly fond of it either
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 12:48 cazalla: sad as it is
mircea_popescu: kinda like the dumb latino whores, going about trying to "live their life" as 30+ yos with children. cuz at 16 they believed their mulamothers, aunts and grandmothers.
mircea_popescu: mula is romanian for a dumb female. used in trilema to denote cazalla's wife, ie a female that is a) aged herself out of the sexual market with b) nothing to show for it who c) nevertheless clings to the theory she has a say in how her life plays and d) has constructed an elaborate ideological infrastructure to accomodate the foregoingt nonsense (generally, a retelling of pantsuitism) alongside e) a social group of her exact
mircea_popescu: these are, in trilema mythology, universally blamed for young women that miss out on their slice of life.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, it means a (nominally) female result of the procreation of donkey inside mare.
mircea_popescu: and obviously stramula is her ancestor ; stra-x works to denote older-same-relative, like great- ; as bunic (grandfather) / strabunic (great-grandfather).
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ur- was coopted in artspeech to denote a typical or originating example, like trilema is the ur-blog and rome the ur-usg.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that could not be so. there's also fewer cunts than dresses. if there weren't, cunt couldn't be meaningful.
mircea_popescu: anyway, without a majority of mule there;d be no young hussies next year period.
mircea_popescu: the only fucking problem is that the young uns tend to listen to them as if they were people, by virtue of the indiscriminate cluelessness of youth -- they'd listen to a puppy if it could speak, on the basis of it having snuggled with them.
mircea_popescu: left to its own devices, preteen believes the tv box, too ; and shit it read on reddit and etcetera.
mircea_popescu: "- Ai de grija sa nu le faci prea destepte ca se mai mintuie specia sau ceva." <> "take care to not have daugthers too smart, lest the species ends"
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 12:51 cazalla: i always thought we german, well, paternal side, but all bullshit, actually polski
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730598 << myeah. lulz of all fucking time ; and note how they're not "we were wrong, obviously, because we're fucktards, so now begins our seven year slave term to our betters" ; they instead "pivoted". cuz saying words is always easier and mom-state will leave the food tray next to room door.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 12:56 cazalla: maybe you get 1 good one, one special from, from 1 bubs in 10,000
shinohai: a111: have mistresses on birth control.
mircea_popescu: of all these resources the female is the most abundant nevertheless.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman they gave it up, and guess what ? it rebounded.
mircea_popescu: incomprehensible how the cuntperl code works to balance the blocks, but it fucking balances the blocks.
mircea_popescu: imo "india" is an ended problem. will be 2050s colonization space.
mircea_popescu: imo more likely the males will just work and die like drones. indians are rather worthless martially.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:05 shinohai: There are no decent women in my location. I feel I have nothing to talk about with them - their idea of literature is the "Sweet Valley High" series or Stephanie Meyer shit.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:11 asciilifeform: aaa
a111: Logged on 2017-09-15 00:34 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so get your citizenship, you never know when it's useful.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:19 asciilifeform: i suspect scamola, or whole fucking planet could get in eu
mircea_popescu: you categories are inadequate basis for an effectual retelling of reality.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:22 cazalla: same, i wonder if my keen eagerness to learn polski is my sense of disgust of angloness
deedbot: wywialm voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: !~later tell cazalla iirc wywialm is polish, maybe he shows you all the hussy watering holes then.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nfi why they hallucinated a need for 32 letters to write down a ~mostly latin sounding language. or w/e, if you prefer, very-soft-slavic.
mircea_popescu: very. except they got A, instead of O and O, instead of U and assorted idiocies.
mircea_popescu: "let's make grammatical rather than phonetical notation because wouldn't be dumb enough just by being dumb, gotta also advertise it"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform modern ru sounds like tinto brass paid a bunch of whores from the periphery of rome to read phonetic notation of ivan's testament, yes.
mircea_popescu: (this is a very specific thing, watch some 60s/70s nazisploitations, get the "german" as spoken by cheap italian meat)
mircea_popescu: not just the usual crap but also Ĭ , ŭ, ó, é, ḑ instead of fucking z, because hurr durr gotta notate the dz, ê even and so fucking following.
mircea_popescu: experience shows they were not needed ; same EXACT goes for polish
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform croatian idem conlang, after their little war each side pretended the euros pay for translators to translate from serb to serb.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform gimme a break. the issue here is that notation MUST BE PHONETIC. never grammatical.
mircea_popescu: grammatical notation is the same ancient idiocy keeps propping head up.
mircea_popescu: "oh, i must have a different "for" loop depending if it's long or short"
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:42 mircea_popescu: there's more languages than linguistic mechanisms
mircea_popescu: nobody is going to FUCKING BOTHER with special phonemes on the long run.
mircea_popescu: seen everywhere, misr as spoken on arab tv is egyptian dialect because guess what ? same fucking reason.
mircea_popescu: bureaucracy will always try to create an unicode ; and the unicode will never matter. that's linguistics in one phrase.
mircea_popescu: polish will get 27 letters ; much like every teen cocklet will eventually get fucked. the only point of difference being that retards, so slightly later.
mircea_popescu: (for lulz : h in romanian doubles as this #. because che and ce are thus distinguished into different sounds etc)
mircea_popescu: and wtf, "let's have no v, so then use W for V, so then use an imaginary L for v" and so on nonsense.
mircea_popescu: latinotards be liek "nueva york". rly bitch ? YOU MISUNDERSTOOD EVERYTHING!
mircea_popescu: last anglo books worth reading were penned cca 70s i suspect. i can't recall finding one useful past feynman, knuth etc.
mircea_popescu: all i can think of is seinfeld not understanding what books are. "they're books. once you've read them, you've read them. what do you need them for."
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:28 cazalla: and fuck them and make babies
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this took the shape of ... milytsia man offered.
mircea_popescu: dja have the "why do chukcha go about in pairs ?" "they teach one to read and the other to write" one ?
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:28 cazalla: but mircea_popescu always complaining of these people
mircea_popescu routinely gets airlines to ferry tons for him. they're generally happy to, at least the better ones, if you're willing to do it by arrangement.
mircea_popescu: well, whatever they do. same-day except it crosses borders so next week kthx.
mircea_popescu: i've never experienced same-day delivery across jurisdictions.
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, the only item ever so transported as far as anyone knows is diana's dildo that one time.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no icbm cone yet delivered on own power ; so no, 2weeks+ common for parts.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:32 cazalla: people as rooshvforum
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:32 asciilifeform: how a gypsy can get fact, remains a mystery
deedbot: cazalla voiced for 30 minutes.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:34 cazalla: but her father so motivated, so rich, take care of of her every concern
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:34 cazalla: DUMB AS SHIT
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:36 cazalla: at 18 months
mircea_popescu: i can't discern if 16yos will grow up into dumb or not half the time. HALF THE TIME!
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:36 cazalla: plagiocephaly
a111: Logged on 2015-07-10 17:56 ascii_field: most recently, when digging out the 'mother nature' infanticide study link for ben_vulpes
mircea_popescu: well there's no such thing as standard acquarium. but sure, keep the temperature reasonable, an hour or two at a stretch, can be multiple passes per day.
mircea_popescu: correct solution is to just use the spawning pool, "always a woman or two in there, and a buncha infants".
mircea_popescu: have industrial (well, restaurant) strength garbage disposal put in for the placentae and aquajets for light play on the side, you're golden. 20-30 sqm of water amply suffices.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:57 cazalla: catch me if u can
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 14:33 diana_coman: I'm sure it's not even the only citizenship for sale for that matter
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 14:52 asciilifeform: if my name is in its papers anywhere -- then yes
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 14:58 asciilifeform: there's maybe 3 people who i trust to be physically present in a room where i bring a btc privkey. and none of them live in ro.
mircea_popescu: full example : 1. you find dood wants to buy btc ; 2. you pre-arrange time, place, values involved ; 3. you register alf-trade-0001 nick ; 4. you register a key for it with deedbot ; 5. you !!pay sum to it ; 6. you meet buyer, with that thing's key ; 7. pay or not pay, but in any case.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:00 asciilifeform: also afaik you still need a saecular bank in the loop to buy real estate there.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:04 diana_coman: asciilifeform, not really; former requires someone to go with you and say you can live in their house/flat etc
mircea_popescu: this is an important formative element, prolly on its way out for that very reason.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:08 diana_coman: ahahaha; logically it should be, yeah; but re "where to live" - you can buy a house in some village for a few thousands max, not exactly need bank either so dunno that being a huge trouble in itself; then again, each with their own problems to solve
mircea_popescu: this is the aspirational of the arab refugees, move in work land.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:09 asciilifeform: what's to keep the counterparty from whacking you over the head and taking the phree gift ?
mircea_popescu: for that matter, when's the last time yo usaw anyone get out of the car with a tire iron in hand ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform torens title. get it registered, it's done.
mircea_popescu: ro / sane places do not use contracts for real property.
mircea_popescu: if the op raises the slightest objection, warn once, walk on 2nd pass.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> or even passable jp pronounciation << What about Cantonese?
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:10 asciilifeform: so what does this look like ? walk in with suitcase of benjies, come out with plutoni^H^H^H^Htitle ?
mircea_popescu: basically you go there with the owner, he provides all the paperwork they want, thassit.
mircea_popescu: same principle in say egypt, or anywhere else in civilised world.
mircea_popescu: (if different principle -- do reconsider "ownership" there.)
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:11 diana_coman: go to public notary, what
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:15 asciilifeform: i'ma have to research, but i'd bet money that it is true. otherwise americans would have snapped up all of the country, and there would not exist such a thing as a 50k-usd house in timis.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: tonal << Only 8 of them
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:18 asciilifeform: and actually owning something
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:23 asciilifeform: sounds like on anything short of a palace, it is less than my current mains current bill
mircea_popescu: your heating costs will typically outpace it by two degrees of magnitude (romania does get bitter winters, a la boston not a la wash dc)
mircea_popescu: and timisoara, technically is mediteranean climate, has figs. except one year there it had a winter of pure doom, people died in teh streets etc.
a111: Logged on 2012-08-16 09:08 mircea_popescu: Luceo no joke on either score. romania interwebz is like top 5 IN THE WERLD.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform like it sure, but still gotta heat. iirc a reasonably modern setup took me back something like $1 / cubicmeter-year.
mircea_popescu: but you can have the bare-concrete matchbox flats, those are a nightmare in terms of heat efficiency. which generally why cheap.
mircea_popescu: course in many places town hall undertook some insulation work. not great afaik.
mircea_popescu: some things are better served by industrial rather than artesanal solutions.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:24 asciilifeform: yea but when you rent a house, orig owner can fail to renew lease, and kick you
mircea_popescu: if concerned, add auto-renewal, they can never kick you out as long as you pay.
mircea_popescu: this, ftr, is the ONLY way rent works. anything else, see above discussion re torrens title.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731023 << you can. provided that they are not damaging to the property (no, change is not presumptively damage) the only avenue of owner is to protest to whatever authority, which may or may not inspect, and generally will write down some subevaluation of your improvements. which the owner will be held to pay when you leave.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:24 asciilifeform: and you generally can't make massive reworks
mircea_popescu: (similar to how exams, or sentences work -- you're more than welcome to appeal, but you can end up with a worse outcome! you didn't like your 6, here's a 4. you didn't like the 5 years, here's 7.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you can prolly have something like a detached suburban house or a girl's townhouse (3 rooms, central) for three figs np.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform most "independent" vagabonds with delusions of being students live on 2-300 a month you realise.
mircea_popescu: you're not giving yourself much space here, "i wish to live like prince on 3x what bum spends".
mircea_popescu: you imagine discounted market values don't work in romania or what the fuck.
mircea_popescu: the "harley worth" place in romania will rent in romania for what the harley leases for in the us. wtf.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:26 diana_coman: asciilifeform> and you generally can't make massive reworks <- this yes, though I'd be surprised you wouldn't be able to agree with landlord; more like you'll go nuts trying to get what you want from builders, but that's a different story
mircea_popescu: and this is generally a point -- if you want quality sex work done, you bring your own whores. and so following.
mircea_popescu: own people and rent land works da fuck better of trying to pretend like you own land on rented people.
mircea_popescu: if the medieval mercenary experience taught us anything.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:27 asciilifeform: yes and all of it easily done with own hands.
mircea_popescu: dude... i went into the lot, asked for the boss, they pointed me to the office-latrine, i was like "i want an excavator" he was like "50 a day" "i was like here" then he pointed out the window to machinery.
mircea_popescu: could have used it to dig out the local jandarmerie building.
mircea_popescu: they wouldn't have even shot at me, i'm 100% sure, just got out of the way and scratched heads wtf.
mircea_popescu: maybe. doubt it tho. for one thing -- gotta have union worker.
mircea_popescu: fantozzi once famously went shopping brought his shit back home in an excavator, with a fleet of dozen cabs following. cuz rich!
a111: Logged on 2015-09-07 03:12 mircea_popescu: had the option to buy it for like 80k, which i didn't take.
mircea_popescu: in other news, i bought some lillies yest, maybe 1-2 kgs or so for like 2 bux. decided i liked them, sent girl to buy out the shop.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform also was an option to me. iirc they were trying to retail it to rando sucker for 105 or such.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> well no, in ro you get a house, in theory, for what a harley costs in usa. << Which harley? This is the 1.2k to 100.2k question
mircea_popescu: a further 3 to 5x away from the original 3x the bum's fare. which is how this works, after all.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo similarily to "whcih house", we presume these matched.
mircea_popescu: romania also has the "million dollar condo flat" delusion, on like calea victoriei in bucharest etc. similar to moscow seattle what have you
mircea_popescu: most usg-once-removed corps are trying hard to advertise bucharest.
mircea_popescu: but the dubious advantage ("historic building!!!") is readily blown out by much nicer historical buildings in ancient civilised lands. get a palace in sibiu rather than a an ex brothel from the time of carol in bucharest.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i will note, for non-usaschwitz readers, that if you want a 80k BRICK house in usa, it will be in 1) baltimore 2) with all food vendor in 100km being 'food depot' ( see thread from last july ) 3) no 1mB/s, much less gB/s, fiber, for any price << Nah dawg. We have a handful of 75-85k brick houses within 20 minute walk of BingoBoingo's seat. Catch is small, 1950's foundation on slab idiocy
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Even have yards on all 4 sides of house
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730654 << you know, there's no substantial difference betwene a bunch of idle idiots hanging around tardstalk type 1 and "consensus"-ing that bitcoin "needs larger blocks" and a not-even-different bunch of idle idiots hanging around tardstalk type n and "consensus"-ing that "deze western women".
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:07 cazalla: these fucking western women
mircea_popescu: harem is mostly the very same western women with no visible drawback.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Door left unlocked here too, we don't have the urban folk to necessitate much locking
mircea_popescu: how did that expression go, "i like to encourage intruders"
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> how did that expression go, "i like to encourage intruders" << AHA, chainsaw!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the folks with unlocked doors are often married galz trying to get cazalla a 3rd while he's not looking mmkay
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: What is this lock on winch. Either flagpole is on ground and has knot, or on roof and has lock to roof because lulzsuits
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform the folks with unlocked doors are often married galz trying to get cazalla a 3rd while he's not looking mmkay << Also lonely old people who are afraid lock door means they'll miss family's visits
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Surprisingly common story from the dope girls looking to stop doping
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: How do they lock you parks in Bmore? Do they hang a cable all the way around and pray to Petrus?
BingoBoingo: Then how do people fish when they fish are actually biting?
mircea_popescu: i dunno dood, i personally got head in park in this usa of yours.
BingoBoingo: Park's generally where teenage guy takes girl to get head first time
mircea_popescu: it wasn't in any sense challenging. certainly no cop car twirliong about
mircea_popescu: (i'd have asked how much with the love-hotel-with-lights for an hour)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> but what you can't do there, is to not step on the detritus left behind by hooting, hollering 'human' detritus << What, your parks don't have department of picking up after park?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform maybe that\s why they close them then, too much work to keep clean.
mod6: there have been people straight up shitting in the train-station garbage cans here lately.
mod6: entire edifice covered in hobo-piss
BingoBoingo: It's very lulzy, even with its own size crisis to boot!
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 6328.19, vol: 12820.82939930 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 6324.4, vol: 35664.65234663 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 6334.0, vol: 3600.43990801 | Volume-weighted last average: 6325.99649986
BingoBoingo: Passport back, round trip to interesting places costs ~2.5 kilo. For Brazil in particular it costs extra 2-4 weeks of passport in mail and their hands, because reciprocity.
BingoBoingo: If go to consulate still takes ~1-2 weeks of passport in their hands. Brazil is very serious about reciprocity.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Nah, Brazil does to would be visitors to what others do to would be visitors from. This is why Peru is becoming interesting as other place with fiber so long things needing fiber stay in Lima.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Mosquitos exist here to. Sao Paulo is decently far south. Anyways, the white man is programmed to respond to climate aversity through colonization.
BingoBoingo: From other tropics: "Justice Scott Crichton penned a brief opinion concurring in the courts decision not to hear the case. He wrote, apparently in absolute seriousness, that the defendants ambiguous and equivocal reference to a lawyer dog does not constitute an invocation of counsel that warrants termination of the interview."
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Quirk of Lousiana law, one cannot ask for a "lawyer, dawg". Must be interpreted phonetically.
trinque finally gave in and put the IRC node back on a server.
mod6: ohmahgerd extreme encryption!
davout: in soviet bitcoinlandia, forkers fork you
deedbot: felipelalli voiced for 30 minutes.
davout: reddit's confusion over buttcash's fork is very entertaining
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 18:52 asciilifeform: ( speaking of crypto, usg lulz
http://archive.is/7UnjC >> label 'no backdoors' == 'extremist crypto' nao )
davout: "The assumption among these parties and organizations is largely that the potentially enormous adverse consequences are not their problem, and there are no legal consequences to their actions."
davout: (speaking about folks... encrypting their comms)
davout: i guess these idiots win if you spend time reading their nonsense
shinohai: We win when lulzing, then continuing about our bidness
deedbot: felipelalli voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: In other news, Peru's girls of OKC are very helpful.
shinohai: see if any are !~tits worthy BingoBoingo .... last 2 participants were subpar.
BingoBoingo: In time shinohai, priority 1 is rackspace and residency.
shinohai: Rackspace + Residency, then Revelry
davout: rackspace, rackpix, same diff
BingoBoingo: diff, which I why I am looking to be able to walk to rack
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 18:39 asciilifeform: for some reason the city hall locked most of the working public latrines. though i found that they had unlocked the ones in the marktplatz.
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: tudo ótimo! :) send me an email telling more details about your project / business and goals, and I can introduce it to any of the accountant companies I told you.
BingoBoingo: Oh, I thought you were sending contact information over?
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 18:58 asciilifeform: ^ complete with megatonne of perverse and pseudolegalistic jesuitry, almost custom trololol for mircea_popescu .
mircea_popescu: felipelalli BingoBoingo what are you two dicking about with already ? gpg -aer name ; put it in p.benvulpes.com and that is all you need.
mircea_popescu: if you don't have the keys, !!key name and then gpg --import.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731544 << everyone is, as a result of usg militant tardation. i can just drive into brazil. you -- can not. they "banned" turkish visitors, as if anyone from turkey could be arsed to go to the us ; turkey reciprocated, meaning about 70% of classical antiquity is now off limits to what in english passes for "the civilised world".
☝︎☟︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 19:28 BingoBoingo: If go to consulate still takes ~1-2 weeks of passport in their hands. Brazil is very serious about reciprocity.
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: Por favor, criptografe as informações de contato para as empresas na minha chave pública. Cole o text em p.benvulpes.com
felipelalli: Ok BingoBoingo! Just wait some minutes, I'll finish the dinner.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 19:43 BingoBoingo: From other tropics: "Justice Scott Crichton penned a brief opinion concurring in the courts decision not to hear the case. He wrote, apparently in absolute seriousness, that the defendants ambiguous and equivocal reference to a lawyer dog does not constitute an invocation of counsel that warrants termination of the interview."
BingoBoingo: Identical half bit-centimeters for all alts
BingoBoingo: Anyways, this is very bullish for the problems of altcoin
BingoBoingo: In other news, the fake news media is misgendering a Home Depot Load-n-go truck as a "uhaul" in their reporting on a NYC aloha snackbar
BingoBoingo: "The driver then stepped from the vehicle, brandishing what appeared to be firearms and shouting. Witnesses described hearing him shout "Allahu Akbar," a phrase that's used in a variety circumstances but which is also frequently yelled by Islamic extremists committing acts of violence. "
mircea_popescu: well, it died meanwhile. but apparently never mentioned.