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lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-23#1898992 << so I figured it out my kernel issues. It seems to have been caused by a known bug >> http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1508.1/02478.html ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-23 19:16 lobbes: Luckily, this time around I have a 40MB screenlog to parse through. Will return once I have a more substantive understanding of where exactly the failure points are when trying to build my kernel config
lobbes: solution being to simply disable CONFIG_STACK_VALIDATION by setting it to blank, i.e "CONFIG_STACK_VALIDATION =". This was a newer kernel config I was using this time around; I checked and this config option was not even mentioned in my older config
lobbes: However, I'm pleased to say I now have a bootable (and, this time, login-able!) cuntoo on my usb stick. I'll aim to get a post with all the details out this week
BingoBoingo: Congrats on the good news lobbes
lobbes: ty BingoBoingo
mircea_popescu: nuts.
mircea_popescu: "analytical philosophy", as the currently preferred endonym for "typical anglo provincialism", ie the attempt at naive extension of "common sense" and broadly dysfunctional medieval solipsisms is methodologically sound, but unfortunately fundamentally rotten, and in the most laughable ways at that. "postmodernism", as the anglotard xenonym for, mostly, post-structuralism, is fundamentally sound, but unfortunately methodologic
mircea_popescu: ally rotten in most applications you're likely to encounter. as it stands, between the "mechanical birdwing" that never could possibly take off and the early aeroplane that generally crashes and burns, you're stuck picking the latter.
mircea_popescu: oops.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in 'the new linus torvalds' lulz: https://archive.is/C6AFq >> 'The price advantage of ARM will never be there for ARM servers unless you get enough volume to make up for the absolutely huge advantage in server volume that Intel has right now ... no real advantage to ARM ... basic economics ... this is why the PC took over, and why everything else died ... you're going to be a tiny minority ... x86 won'
mircea_popescu: aww. is this http://trilema.com/2015/on-how-the-factored-4096-rsa-keys-story-was-handled-and-what-it-means-to-you/ all over again ?
asciilifeform: loox like!
asciilifeform: pretty fast turnaround, gotta say
mircea_popescu: check out what changed in 4 years alfie, back in 2015 we had to ~go there~. now they sit around reading the log on their own dime, to "preemptively" etc.
asciilifeform: riotously wtf. but i can't picture how else.
asciilifeform: wai ~now~ 'surrender, arm is dead' etc
mircea_popescu: whatever. there's better shows in town, anyway.
asciilifeform doesn't even ~like~ arm much, but it remains the case that it's the 1 green leaf in the garbage disposal of non-x86 atm
asciilifeform still curious how they maintain the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-16#1897140 lulzstatusquo ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-16 01:13 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not even 'tb', but go an' try to find on market arm box of ~any~ description that eats ordinary socketed dimms
asciilifeform: near as i can tell, reich 'soft banned' arm mobos with socketed rams
asciilifeform: ( not simply arm, either, but ~anyffin~ non-x86 )
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/well-since-i-started-might-as-well/ << Trilema -- Well, since I started, might as well...
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> check out what changed in 4 years alfie, back in 2015 we had to ~go there~. now they sit around reading the log on their own dime, to "preemptively" etc. << very true
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform possibly tenuously, hence the lulz.
asciilifeform: so far i only found that 1 chinese box, costing its weight in silver, etc. but this does not disprove mircea_popescu's hypothesis.
BingoBoingo: The Chicoms keep teasing socketed ARM, and then...
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: afaik no socketable arm (as in cpu per se) has ever been offered.
asciilifeform: (not since acorn anyway)
BingoBoingo: Forgot to spec socketed RAM. I haven't even seen socketed chip teases
asciilifeform: ftr there is a (theoretical) 'innocent' explanation for 'nuffin socketed' -- at current-day freqs, sockets actually cost comparably with the chip
asciilifeform: cuz impedance-tolerance is tight.
asciilifeform: ( observe what current-day cpu sockets look like, vs days of 486 'lif' )
mircea_popescu: this is true ; yet you'd expect intel started making the boards with the chips.
mircea_popescu: why don't they, technological incapacity ?
asciilifeform: why would they cannibalize their x86 idjicy ?
mircea_popescu: i honestly don't understand why latest pc even has pcb in at all. all the shit could be on-die anyway.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it ~is~, in their bleeding-edge luser pc product. just not anyffing you'd buy. e.g. https://archive.is/Kqh7F
mircea_popescu: make a computer look like an aluminum can, one spikey end with the cpu and radiator, one flat end to sit it on.
asciilifeform: pictured item is it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a ok, that actually looks exactly like soviet take of above.
asciilifeform: iirc crapple's latest lappy is same thing, with added periphs
mircea_popescu: aha.
asciilifeform: cpu, gpu, north/south, etc . on 1 die.
mircea_popescu: myeah.
asciilifeform: ( funnily enuff, not ram -- they lost ram market to samsung and it aint coming back )
mircea_popescu: myeah.
mircea_popescu: welcome back eh!
asciilifeform: wb diana_coman !
diana_coman: thanks! it's good to be back
diana_coman kept up with the logs but not with trilema.com
mircea_popescu: somehow february counted as two months for the blog, nfi.
diana_coman: !!v 7248C1AA2033BFBE213D7F51CA55F871CCDD25B5D14D2535BCB64A0A81D2874A
deedbot: diana_coman updated rating of spyked from 2 to 3 << met irl; writes at http://thetarpit.org/
mircea_popescu: it does seem though that the "article is ~500 words" thing that stood true for a decade or so meanwhile morphed into an "article is ~2k words" thing. i hope it stops, this process, before expanding past the point where not even i can be bothered to read one.
diana_coman: heh, sure it stops: article is ~3.5k words + ~50 links 5 layers deep or something
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: reading'em is pretty fast, in asciilifeform's experience, if you have the 'working set' loaded into brain
mircea_popescu: there's no guarantee "writing an article" is a procedure that returns, in principle. maybe it ends that way.
BingoBoingo: Some trilemas I read quickly in 2013-2019 today take substantially more time to read as I correct and rebuild the working set in the headcase. Then again 2013-2017 I was mistakenly filtering for Bitcoin. But that filtering doesn't work.
mircea_popescu: that's kinda the problem with reading. the actual driver of length-ening is precisely this, one could produce shorter articles, but it's a time-to-read/space-to-write tradeoff.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, I carry some technical debt, but as I've been learning since last year there's a lot of pressing cultural debt.
mircea_popescu: debt is the only post-imperialist given.
BingoBoingo: Less pressing as the headcase contents get flushed and refreshed with the re-reading, but it's a thing on the issues chart
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/02/another-week-another-us-hate-hoax-as-lgtbbq-activist-torches-own-house-killing-pets/ << Qntra -- Another Week, Another US Hate Hoax As LGTBBQ Activist Torches Own House Killing Pets
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2019/02/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-april-may-and-june-1714-part-ii/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of April, May and June, 1714. - Part II.
mircea_popescu: nicoleci http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/m92oi/?raw=true
asciilifeform: 'As gay rights supporters try to reconcile Joly the crusader with Joly the alleged arsonist, they worry the arrest could be used to reverse all the good he has done' << lol!
mircea_popescu: they're pretty lulzy to watch, lost in their lala-land of "good that's done" and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: what "good" ? what "done" ?
BingoBoingo: Well, she fussed a lot
BingoBoingo: Old women like fussing, as carried out by this old woman
asciilifeform: 'Meanwhile donations rolled in for Joly and Moore. The church hoped to raise $10,000 but quickly sped past that amount. By the time St. Johns and other groups were done they had collected $58,000, they said. In a Facebook post two days after the fire, Joly exhorted supporters not to respond to the blaze by threatening violence. “Yes, be angry, be very angry,” he wrote. “Use that anger to force good! Use that anger to make chang
asciilifeform: e.”'
mircea_popescu: sooo... in more practical terms, "old women everywhere fear that this one old woman's idle oldwomanhood's sudden collapse into active boyhood might be more than an isolated event"
mircea_popescu: somewhat parallel to the very threatened reaction of girlies in a group of girlies, when i bid one come over. "if she goes to the slaugther when called to the slaughter, who's to say i wouldnt?!?"
mircea_popescu: obviously no-one's to say she wouldn't, especially seeing how of fucking course she would.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, to be clear the arsonist fusser is XX chromosoned, presumably taking male steriod hormones for years if not decades.
asciilifeform: pretty great. gotta wonder if these folx realize on some level that they're pouring the foundations for the eventual crematoria. ( or will be 'surprised', like the prev set )
mircea_popescu: yet the very obvious "female accidentally displays agency, ends up in http://trilema.com/2015/gender-politics-and-the-war-on-will/ conundrum" is pretty lulzy. what is wrong, to be an activist or to set your house on fire ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform post-rationality.
mircea_popescu: "there's nothing to realise, no means no" "to whom ?"
asciilifeform: incidentally 'burned own house' is somewhat misleading , in we-build-from-matchsticks usa there is good chances of incinerating whole street
mircea_popescu: "no, there's absolute truth, and absolute value of symbols. no means no ~objectively~" "since when ?"
asciilifeform: ( there's a reason why in old japan arsonists were invariably burned at the stake, i.e. same as for high treason )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform eh, it's self-limiting, if enough houses burn down it'll just be the new fashion. "this is how things ARE now" worked ok for new york in its slow descent to africa, what's to keep them.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sure enuff. recall e.g. chicago.
mircea_popescu: in practice, women make do, and the femstate as organized womanhood (whether you like it or not) will... well... see, it gets something in exchange for permanent defeat. it's indefeatable in its own terms now!!!
BingoBoingo: Not like the US is going to rediscover "cob" construction.
mircea_popescu: why would it! it priviledges the wrong criteria over considerations "much more important to us".
BingoBoingo: The failure to transition from temporary log cabins and clapboard to cob or ferrocement is yet another weird Anglo colonial quirk.
BingoBoingo: Instead they just started using less wood and more petrol weird in their cabins
mircea_popescu: femstate lulz, the termites could prolly chew the trunks making up one original log cabin and spit out paper cells for a whole neighbourhood of contemporary drones.
mircea_popescu: those 1800s doods used whole trunks, half the time still round, to make the walls.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: history's most 'successful', if you will, bonsai-kitten experiment. unlike e.g. ceausescu's ro folx, most of usa never even laid eyes on a ~picture~ of an actual pre-socialism house, much less set foot in one, not even speaking of riding in a pre-socialism auto or growing up in a pre-.... family etc
mircea_popescu: there's of course ye olde brownstone tenements
asciilifeform: picture-perfect 'just how much shit WILL they eat if never knew different' setup
mircea_popescu: but afaik entirely north east phenomenon
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ~entirely afaik
asciilifeform: even those, tend to be rather spartan per europistani standards
mircea_popescu: it's very weird because for a good half of 20th century, us housing kicked SO MUCH ASS compared to yurp...
asciilifeform: there's an old slaveholder manor not far from asciilifeform . it is quite threadbare if you were to stand it next to the habsburg dwellings
mircea_popescu: it didn't last tho.
asciilifeform: ( see mircea_popescu's jefferson thread, etc )
asciilifeform: ( manor -- pretty interesting in own light. literally entire town, incl. the university grounds, usedta be part of it pre-dekulakization. yet most of the folx living there nao, dun even know that the manor house exists. inside, threadbare museum, open 1ce a week or sumthing, souvenir shop. )
asciilifeform found, by chance, a living descendant of the manor people. old woman, 9000 cats...
asciilifeform: quite hilarious re 'houses' -- the other day there was a little gust of wind, certainly nuffin rising to the level of 'hurricane'. and then i go for a drive, and errywhere pieces of 'house' came off
BingoBoingo: Even Uruguayo socialist housing compared to the US... Seeing these how these 10-12 story towers go up is a trip.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: your orcs , not yet invented the pretense. mix cement, pour, done.
asciilifeform: i dun even know presently what prevents it. possibly if the fast-growing pine thing usa uses, grew in south a, argentina + uy et al would already look like matchstick washington.
asciilifeform: usa seems intent on replaying the career of the illustrative-idiot character in erry single trad folk tale. even 'the 3 pigs'.
BingoBoingo: The locals like fire. Estufas de leña for winter and parrillas for asado. Lots are too narrow to not have disaster during the matchsticking.
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/umBKl#selection-63.358-63.753 << oblig naggum
BingoBoingo: The more "affordable" option emerging are furnished, shipping containers. These however are a rural and outter barrio thing.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: in usa would be moar common if were not artificially suppressed ( it is legal to be a hobo , but not to live in shipping container or anyffin else not Officially mortgaged via the lizards )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, local control issue mostly. Universal building codes get adopted and at the local level derps enforce Stick Frames because the presence of deviant construction drops the relative value of the established derp's stick constructions.
asciilifeform: not limited to 'ugly' ersatz housing, either. recall the mircea_popescu thread about some ro fella who thought he could get away with building a stone euro-style house in urban usa, where the locals could see it
BingoBoingo: I recall mircea_popescu had a story about folks trying to build stone house in the US
mircea_popescu: i expect actually a great future for intermodal container housing.
BingoBoingo: AHA
mircea_popescu: imagine, neighbourhood of the future, == port of the future. you sign the slip to where you wanna live next, they take you there.
mircea_popescu: go to paris via marseille without leaving you livingroom.
asciilifeform: that'd rock, actually. the 1 annoying detail is that even at current fare ( what, 2k orcbux? from ny to marseilles ) the folx who can afford fare, dun care to live in container
BingoBoingo: Well, how many containers does the alf lab need?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 5-6
asciilifeform: 3-4 , i suppose, if it's going to junkyard instead of marseilles and you can compact it a bit
mircea_popescu: there's maybe 20mn containers in the world.
mircea_popescu: once there's 20bn, the fare will be ~20k, except with inflation <1 bitcent.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo what difference does it make ? if you're rich, get 6x4x2 or w/e, not like you can't specify arrangement. might delay you a day. whopee.
mircea_popescu: now THIS is the sort of [interfaced] cvasi-boat alf could readily live on -- if everyone else also did.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's a massive 'artistic' sculpture consisting of coupla dozen containers somewhere on the road to washington from here. they're plentiful, and folx in 'flyover' usa do sometimes live in'em ( see endless 'how i poured cement' http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-24#1899021 -derpery on 'youtube' etc. ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-24 06:42 mircea_popescu: witness how instagram is chock full of a bunch of pretentious pictures of foods/travels/whatever that the putative "authors" ~aspire~ to.
mircea_popescu: aha.
asciilifeform: on the coasts, diff story. you can get away with dealing dope by megatonne, in bmore, but just try live in container.
asciilifeform: withholding mortgageolade from the j00z -- the ur-crime in reich.
mircea_popescu: i suspect this is your usual "opionions of things i imagine" postmodernist show.
mircea_popescu: i know numerous chicks squatting. it's a thing.
mircea_popescu: more a thing in german-yurp than us, but a major thing nevertheless, on both coasts and in plenty of midwest pockets.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo what difference does it make ? if you're rich, get 6x4x2 or w/e, not like you can't specify arrangement. might delay you a day. whopee. << Well trying to figure out if the Port or Puertito is a more appropriate place arrive.
asciilifeform: well in that vein, i even know (by name) actual hobos
asciilifeform: hobo -- legal.
mircea_popescu: squatting is precisely "living without jew"
asciilifeform: i was speaking of 'living, not ~existing~'(tm)
mircea_popescu: it's not even legal to take down ~illegal electricity connections~ they made, half the time.
mircea_popescu: it's not clear to me what you mean.
BingoBoingo: ^ Here too, they get regularized and even then usually only when pasta base is involved
mircea_popescu: if you define "living is exsting + jew" then yeah, i expect you won't find "living without jew".
asciilifeform: incl., but not limited to, triple-digit locking door square metrage, fiber, and fridge with roquefort.
mircea_popescu: actually, this happens regularly. witness the "art studio" / squat that burned a few years ago.
mircea_popescu: more valuables there than in a whole suburbia's worth of soccer moms.
asciilifeform: and moar lice than auschwitz barrack, betcha
mircea_popescu: nah. artsy chicks are anxiously clean, these days.
asciilifeform: iirc that one was fulla xy
mircea_popescu: there's also the filthy sort, but that's more of a punk/pill scene.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the infestations are a by-scene thing. the art scene's not particularly lice-y. some music scenes are ; the sex scene may be, depending on the house mother. on it goes.
mircea_popescu: it's a very unevenly distributed thing.
asciilifeform: iirc gabriel_laddel was living in sumthing like this shortly before he finally sank
asciilifeform: didn't sound esp. thrilled
mircea_popescu: i have no idea ; nor is this anything like an example.
asciilifeform: ( and this was not a d00d with outlandish standards )
BingoBoingo: Some bums even get upwardly mobile here http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-19#1898017 http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-19#1898018 ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-19 04:42 BingoBoingo: Also tonight I saw the good bum mentioned http://bingology.net/2018/12/24/preparations-for-the-second-navidad-in-uruguay/#footnote_1_2160
a111: Logged on 2019-02-19 04:42 BingoBoingo: It has been a while. Turns out he got a job of sorts at a Confiteria. Sleeps in an actual bed most nights now.
mircea_popescu: but in more reality-anchored basis for discussion, i'd guess about one third of esl females in age range of interest live in communal arrangements. some are publicly run, aka "university dorms" ; some are privately run, of which as much as one third also illegally run.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these -- yes the 'fyootoor', in last decade they tore down good % of the town around here and built honest sovok-style communal-by-design flats
mircea_popescu: the girls that don't, remarkably, are even odds lost in smalltown idaho or other such nowherezeone horrors.
asciilifeform: somehow 'not Officially happening', but there they are
asciilifeform: and mostly fulla yes, mircea_popescu's chix
mircea_popescu: trend's been ongoing since at least the 70s, once the yellow flower of alabamy decided her only future's to go to new york to be a writer.
mircea_popescu: so many writers... wut do. stack 'em.
mircea_popescu: one can't really understand "gender identity" or whatever, faggot-bla-bla without actually comprehending the demographics.
asciilifeform: the interesting, imho, detail, is that i went and found what they pay. if you add up the rent of the 4 коммуналка derps occupying any of these, you get ~2x what asciilifeform pays for same sq. m.
mircea_popescu: they're incomprehensible and uninteresting to "patriarchy" aka the lordship principally because they're epiphenomena of poverty in a manner unexperienced.
mircea_popescu: much like medieval lords did not understand the amulet fervor of the peons.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform of course. you're priviledged.
asciilifeform: lol privileged. i grew up in an actual коммуналка.
asciilifeform: baked out of 19th c. actual-people flat, as they came
mircea_popescu: so ?
mircea_popescu: i don't mean you inherited it.
mircea_popescu: i mean you're not them, substantially. if i shoot some schmuck they ask me "what i was thinking", if some schmuck shoots another they just dump him in the hole.
asciilifeform: aa
mircea_popescu: we're substantially different things, i'm something, the poveraccio's not a thing.
asciilifeform: the lulztwist is that here you cannot get the tall ceiling of that коммуналка even with 5 mircea_popescu-s worth of moola
asciilifeform: ( or perhaps could, but would have to station an army around it, and it begins to look economical in comparison to put it on ocean floor )
asciilifeform: dome, reactor, & all.
asciilifeform: in vehehery other noose, asciilifeform accidentally, in the course of unrelated worx, dug up the long-sought pill for the http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-19#1586264 item. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-19 20:16 asciilifeform: btw if anyone can come up with a WORKING 'crab' (realtek) nic driver in pure long mode asm, we can have, e.g., scheme on iron, and usefully so, in a couplea weeks.
asciilifeform: ( nao if could grow 3 or 4 additional hands !!11 )
asciilifeform: in other olds, http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-19#1586388 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-19 23:08 danielpbarron is interested in http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-19#1586342
asciilifeform: hrm, whatever happened to that fella