mircea_popescu: though i would propose you do not spend 40 bucks for those 13 pages.
mircea_popescu: it's been the laughingstock of people in the field for years.
a111: Logged on 2014-02-13 01:04 asciilifeform: incidentally, if the avaricious idiots move everybody to RFID cards sans crypto challenge/response (as appears to be the plan) - every ATM becomes a btc-ATM.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-09 16:08 asciilifeform:
https://archive.is/i1Usl << from same fishwrap >> 'Two members of the US Army National Guard have been convicted of running a credit card fraud scheme involving bitcoin... using bitcoins to purchase stolen credit and debit card numbers... using magnetic strip re-encoding tools to apply stolen numbers to dummy cards, after which they would buy merchandise from Army and Air Force Exchange Service stores at US military bases, as well a
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 00:23 asciilifeform: ~shannonizer.
mircea_popescu: in any case, it's the necessary collision of that whole process when it finally loses historicity, and "something new" is "inept bullshit smoked by schoolchildren nine centuries ago"
mircea_popescu: this moron literally DID NOT KNOW the position is not even novel, stupid as it may be.
mircea_popescu: his history | grep returned no direct matches and that's it, because he has had a terminal open since the dawn of philosophy and also his regexp magically sees through indirection.
mircea_popescu: the whole bumbling edifice of them, "oh, moron idiotssen's ~~~contribution~~~ to mathematics is pointing out that spheres are perfect figures"
mircea_popescu: yes tyvm, scholastical geometry ftw. much productive line of thought.
mircea_popescu: anyway, whatever, it's the best they can do because it's what they need to believe to continue in the vein of idiocy and so on. whatevs, they really are their own adequate punishments.
a111: Logged on 2013-04-04 19:17 asciilifeform: consider a hardware widget that receives a single-use CC number (for $X) from a hypothetical BTC-enabled bank and writes it to a blank physical ATM card, when you send the bank $X equiv. of BTC.
a111: Logged on 2013-04-04 19:43 asciilifeform: and virtually nobody appears to be the least bit interested in my (or anyone else's) ideas for cutting the fiat world out of the loop (I suggested product delivery via dead drops, flying machines, other crackpot nuttery)
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 16:13 mircea_popescu: phf there were takers, mod6 working on rawtx recall ?
mod6: The rawtx stuff I've been working on, just is with the old rpc interface. It's going alright, btw, working through the signrawtransaction part. It's a bit hairy.
mod6: I did the others, and sendrawtransaction last year. Getting closer to a point where I can at least test and see where it stands.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 18:57 spyked: asciilifeform, yes, found w4rez. and used it as reference. and the lisp evaluator works on simple programs (implemented most higher-order functions in it), but the code is organized like crap. and I'm not sure I made the correct cut between "builtin procedures" and e.g. keywords such as "lambda".
mod6: Ah, no. After the educational dive and I have something that works, could take that knowledge and implement it differently perhaps.
mod6: No worries. This all stems from the failed back-port.
mod6: I've been able to build out the rpc calls without all kinds of crazy class changes to the rest of the code, thus far at least.
mod6: asciilifeform: yeah, we kinda laid that to rest a while back.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 02:49 phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828378 << distinctions like that are often subtle and a matter of taste, but as long as the overal approach is informed now might be a good time to paste what you have.
phf: i don't think LiSP even covers gc until much later
phf: but if he's following along with the book the result should be sufficiently morphable
mircea_popescu remembers the good old days when parsing was done ~by the keyboard~, as in the z80 basic.
mircea_popescu: push this here button labeled "inkey$" for your eyes only, meatsack.
phf: correct approach is of course common lisp's readtable, but i don't think LiSP covers that
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 00:23 asciilifeform: lol paywall. but asciilifeform can't even be arsed to excavate the warez, pg1 says it all
phf: "Hermeneutics: From Textual Explication to Computer Understanding?"
mircea_popescu: "Hermeneutics, a branch of continental European philosophy concerned with human understanding and the interpretation of written texts, offers insights that may contribute to the understanding of meaning, translation, architectures for natural language understanding, and even to the methods suitable for scientific inquiry in AI. After briefly reviewing the historical development of hermeneutics as a method of interpretation, t
mircea_popescu: his article examines the contributions of hermeneutics to the human sciences."
mircea_popescu: unsolicited 25F Domme "How about you drop whate..." Is all your subject line shows to me. From glancing at your profile, I assume it was a half ass attempt to order me to do or not do something. Either way, you bore me. Yawn.
mircea_popescu: LordMPofTMSR 37M Master Do you find this pompous busllhit approach ever delivers anything ?
mircea_popescu: unsolicited 25F Domme "Do you find this pompous bullshit approach ever delivers anything ?" Ha. Back at ya. People can read into words with whatever tone or inflection they'd care to imagine. If you think I have to try at all, you're mistaken. I have minimal information on my profile coupled with few photos and I'm already getting new notifications and messages daily. I'm more than happy to wait to organically meet someone I'
mircea_popescu: d consider having as my mentor at an actual event in person. Anything else is extra. Otherwise, you can reread my profile. I'm not to be tamed and I am not taking in any submissives.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: LordMPofTMSR 37M Master In fucken boise ?! Aaaalright, there's silly, then there's dumb, then there's this, not even sure what to call it. Boise, I guess. Have a great one.
mircea_popescu: because THIS is what it fucking is, you understand me ? 100% no exceptiopns this. "25F domme" ==== usgtarded "scientist" ; and "hermeneutics, that european branch" === "boise, is where ima find my life, and the ummin and thurin stones the angel of morons left behind for me"
mircea_popescu: the provincialism of ustards is not even infuriating it's so god damned subhuman.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i recently described "last tango in paris" as "some chick gets raped by a potato".
mircea_popescu: because that's what fucking happens ; the potato-plenty has resulted in potato-jaws on potato-skulls.
phf: boise? where's that?
hanbot: "organically meet someone" 0_o
phf: is humor, see, ivan, they think center of earth, but really asshole of america
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you realise, nothing a 20something yo female has to say is meaningful.
mircea_popescu: what do you propose, that if tomorrow cow starts calling itself astronauts ima desist ribeye ?
phf: asciilifeform: i imagine mp casts a wide net, but it's the "doms" that provide most luls
mircea_popescu: phf some chick was like "oh, i expect it's a game of numbers" and i was like "nope. i talk to everyone. statistics is not related to plenitudes."
mircea_popescu: part of the effort is me aspiring to divinity, evidently, but part is exactly that curiosity.
mircea_popescu: i mean, dating sites are ~100% Mechanize::blabla ; but the facebooks twitters etc not yet.
phf: well for one, they all talk like the doms they've seen on tv, "i bore me now" "run along little pet" i mean what's next "beg, worm"?
☟︎ phf: *you bore, but it's a freudian typo
mircea_popescu: anyway, back to the root : some inept, clueless servant girl from the shtetl calling herself "domme", some unemployed railroad worker calling himself "wykeham professor of logic", some fucktard calling himself "working for google", these are all STRICTLY the same thing, of the nature of gomer pyle calling itself a heap and the tv set calling itself Boshiba.
mircea_popescu: btw, did we do the "you too can be novelist, buy our narrative card deck and kit" 1800s us entrepreneurialism ?
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: idiots genuinely had this deck, you'd shuffle, deal, and there's another hollywood film.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 02:49 phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828378 << distinctions like that are often subtle and a matter of taste, but as long as the overal approach is informed now might be a good time to paste what you have.
deedbot: KimuSan^ voiced for 30 minutes.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 04:08 mircea_popescu: btw, did we do the "you too can be novelist, buy our narrative card deck and kit" 1800s us entrepreneurialism ?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 15:33 asciilifeform: Mocky: to function as a troo vtronicist, gotta grasp the concept, described by e.g. dijkstra, that a line of code you have written is not an asset, but an expense. (specifically, an expense against the time budget of other thinking people, who must read and grasp what you have written. )
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 18:26 mircea_popescu: Mocky it's not much, superficially, but it has a lot of downstream. because this is the ~fundamental~ rot of "foss" : that impotent dweebs latch on to it not because of the lofty theoretical goals, but strictly because of the very direct if unspoken power equation, "if i be friends with these guys then girls will be forced ot insert my penis in their vagina by themselves".
KimuSan^: Name's Kim, and I am just another fellow geek, advocate of free speech and liberation of the internet.
☟︎ KimuSan^: Well I came across a mention of this place when looking for how well anonymous hosting worked these days... As in paid with (mostly) untraceable crypto and hosted without any mention of ownership etc.
KimuSan^: Then came across a great article on looper-os and decided to see if there were more interesting stuff in here.
KimuSan^: Well you can find me on many sites and all fully public. Disconnected.tech, Schulz.kim Schulz.dk and the trails from there.
KimuSan^: Writen is mostly in print or in letters to local politicians. Besides this I help university students in my spare time and spread my word there..
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KimuSan^: Low level programming. Mostly for arm based arch.
KimuSan^: A bit of crypto help from time to time.
KimuSan^: Interestingly I have yet to find proof of you NSA honeypot claim, but I hope to find that in your log as it seems like you have such Proof.
KimuSan^: Actually my privkey is in my hardware key on my body. What I have I keybase is what I need in order to communicate with others. I see keybase as a good gateway drug to actually get people to start encrypting and signing coo. S
diana_coman: KimuSan^, why do you think that those biting such "gateway drug" (let alone needing that much baiting and so on) *should* "start encrypting" or have anything to do with signing anything?
KimuSan^: Well don't know about you, but I prefer my communication to be private if needed. Telling that to my old father is close to impossible. Getting him on keybase actually thaught him a lot about why and how. These days we encrypt all communication - even if it is just via a key he uploaded to keybase.
KimuSan^: asciilifeform: why wouldn't I. I have my pub key in many places.
diana_coman: KimuSan^, you are effectively saying "I want my father to get X but he can't or won't so I feed him something that *looks* like X and that's great because reasons"
diana_coman: and at any rate you haven't actually answered the question: why ?
KimuSan^: diana_coman: it's called baby steps.
diana_coman: KimuSan^, mno, it's called many things and none of them any good
diana_coman: why should they start encrypting if they don't understand much about it
KimuSan^: Because we are getting to a point ve
KimuSan^: Well have to run off now. I can try to explain more at a later point if you let me.
diana_coman: baby steps is when baby tries to walk for real - with all the bumps and crying that happens; it's not when baby "walks" by having parent holding it in the air and moving its legs as if it was walking, all the time saying for good measure "you are walking baby, yeee"
diana_coman: KimuSan^, better write your explanation on your blog
diana_coman: possibly several times until it stops going in a loop among other things
diana_coman: o.O he can at least come back, there is that
deedbot: asciilifeform rated KimuSan^ -1 << i am to understand that usg has control of this privkey.
mircea_popescu: lmao he's here to drink tea and kick ass, and the tea levels running low...
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 03:29 mircea_popescu: d consider having as my mentor at an actual event in person. Anything else is extra. Otherwise, you can reread my profile. I'm not to be tamed and I am not taking in any submissives.
lobbes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828477 << ack, ty for letting me know. I'll try sshing in tonight to rule out webserver failure before I flag down BB to check out the situation manually. (I must say, it is a good feeling knowing that nowhere in this troubleshooting cycle will I need to interface with orcs.)
☝︎☟︎ BingoBoingo running around trying to finish the tramite that gets a door with a lock
BingoBoingo: Well, mostly this involves running back and forth fixing sloppy Uruguayo paperwork.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-22#1828640 << literally, "Christ, you are as dumb as a sack of dead cats. You're nothing more than an idiotic little boy with his dick in his hand. How about you drop your dick, because it's as limp as your sense of humour I'd rather set myself on fire and die screaming than have you touch me...but I'm sure other women have told you that Everything you enjoy, everything you think
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 03:42 phf: well for one, they all talk like the doms they've seen on tv, "i bore me now" "run along little pet" i mean what's next "beg, worm"?
mircea_popescu: is good, every part of who you are and what you do isn't worth a moment of my time. So how about you move out of your mother's spare room and grow a pair Oh and fuck off."
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 14:06 KimuSan^: Name's Kim, and I am just another fellow geek, advocate of free speech and liberation of the internet.
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, so dood has a pubkey on whatever, satan's pastebin. what of it ?
mircea_popescu: if i feel like it i can put your pubkey on keybase, asciilifeform ; what then ?
deedbot: KimuSan^ voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dude, he's nobody on a stick. how's he even supposed to know what anything is or how it works or why ?
mircea_popescu: not the point. the point is that you're attempting to apply a stick to a donkey that's not even there.
mircea_popescu: beating works in the harem, applied to women ~that love you~. can't go around beating perfect strangers, can you ?
mircea_popescu: unlike about 7bn of them, he's on the cusp of becoming aware.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 02:09 asciilifeform: '14 year old cunt routine' to uninvested intelligent n00b is not so diff. but watever.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 14:20 KimuSan^: I place A privkey there.
mircea_popescu: it's supposed to be in enemy hands, as part and parcel of what rsa asym cipher is.
a111: Logged on 2013-01-17 00:32 mircea_popescu: ;;rate rg -1 from what I understand person no longer has sole control of private key.
mircea_popescu: this is circular. where did it ~happen~, not where you reported it happening ?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 14:20 KimuSan^: I place A privkey there.
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's a significant difference between rg you link and this. at the time i did that, "rg" was well known, the measure was protective.
mircea_popescu: there's a difference between saying "alf lost his privkey" and "nobody lost privkey"
mircea_popescu: comes right back to, "you wasted prime whip leather on what might have been a beetle"
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 14:40 asciilifeform: maybe, once in an asteroid chance, d00d learns something from this.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform never played those old amiga games with limited ammo counts ?
mircea_popescu: KimuSan^ come back later/whatever with a diff key, and don't say things you shouldn't say which you can't possibly know in advance hence the "read logs" thing.
mircea_popescu: for my own needs i go with "neet who '''learned things''' from websites". there's a significant contingent of these, and they all behave the exact same way because they never were in school and so they don't have reflexivity in their toolbox. you propose to just ban the whole class ?
mircea_popescu: alright, this is perfectly reasonable. but is this hygiene to be implemented as "mentions keybase, dead" sorta "has fleas, firing squad" ?
mod6: the wooden hammer fountain
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ben_vulpes: motherfucker, localbitcoins uses multisig deposit addresses
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes will end up trading mocky 3coins for proper 1coins etc ?
ben_vulpes: once one has the 3coin, it's a single transaction to transmute into a 1coin iirc? or did we settle on "anything with a 3 in the transactionhistory is badshit"
mircea_popescu: to review this : 3address bitcoin can be spent to proper 1address bitcoin by ~anyone~, at ~any time~. in practice these anyone and any time variables will be set by the miner cartel that finally pulls the plug on the 3address shitshow.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile 1address bitcoin that was in a 3address at any point can be spent by the above anyone, but not at any time. at only such a time as he's willing and capable to replace the chain with an alt chain.
mircea_popescu: leaving the will aside, this is only feasible for short time intervals.
mircea_popescu: moreover, considering the sums involved here, you can simply not gas.
mircea_popescu: nobody's leting fenrir off the chain simply to steal your coupla grand or what is it.
mircea_popescu: technically different items tho. but anyway, worth finding out >,<
mircea_popescu: well... by luscious nude virgins, as the case may be, but yes.
mircea_popescu: or, in recent quotes, "I don't believe that I am the right person to join your lifestyle. Especially since I am very new to this side. I don't have experience and your lifestyle seems a bit intimidating for me, as a beginner."
mircea_popescu thinks he makes great violinist, though no violin professor ever agreed.
mircea_popescu: admittedly my violining guidebook is both shorter and significantly different from the commonly held.
mircea_popescu: a) better be LOUD and b) if no strings snap you're doing it wrongly.
mircea_popescu: you know the 90s pantsuit story about "black kid practiced for president with" uh no sorry, the other one
mircea_popescu: "kid in africa practiced olympic jumps on cardboard pile"
mircea_popescu: if jew harp is jew harp therefore saw is polak mandolin ?
phf: asciilifeform: it's still around, in new orleans and such you can see crust punks playing it in "old timey" bands
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: iirc you've used lbtc in living memory, what heathen abortion did you use to send to the 3addr?
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo: iirc you've used lbtc in living memory, what heathen abortion did you use to send to the 3addr? << I used my 0.7 fork
mircea_popescu: "This is the 3d fucking time I’ve deleted this shit, but I keep coming back. I don’t know what sex(s) I like yet, so I feel like if I keep labeling my self as something I’m not that’s not really fair to the person fucking w/ me."
mircea_popescu: penned by "fatkittyvslogic", if it wasn't directly evident.
ben_vulpes: well this is a fuckin doozy; i'm trying to get trb to cough up a transaction that spends 0.00420032 to one address, 6.65784110 to another address, and spends 0.00021850 in fees, all of which my arithmetic pad shows summing to 6.66225992 btc, but trb complains of "insufficient funds". can someone doublecheck my maffs?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes odds are you're either not setting the fee correctly, or else the inputs are so numerous it won't send with the fee you set.
ben_vulpes: and afaik only spending a single output
mircea_popescu: roughly speaking, fee in satoshi / 4 / (count of inputs + count of outputs ) should come over w/e value 100 or w/e it is.
ben_vulpes: next thing i'm going to try is manually walk the spend-to-self down by 100 satoshis until this trb shits a tx out and then look at what it produces
☟︎ ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: 3467 is the value i get with that algo
ben_vulpes: i wasn't aware that it was 50ksat/byte, no, but nevertheless trb shouldn't even be aware of that. orthogonal issue, isn't it?
mod6: trb should just shit out a tx
mircea_popescu: mod6 unless he set up a minimum fee somewhere, though i don't recall how exactly that all works.
mod6: whether it gets picked up quickly or not, depends on the fee.
ben_vulpes: bitcoinfees.earn.com suggests cutoff around ~50 sat/byte, but still, orthogonal
mod6: are you trying to empty the wallet and are somehow off by a few satoshi?
mircea_popescu: if you try to send it with a lower fee than the level you set it to use it'll throw an error ; the rule for trb is to throw useless incomprehensible if not outright misguiding errors.
ben_vulpes: mod6: see that's why i asked for a spot check on the maths
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's either a) dust inputs you don't know about or b) min fee config conflict.
ben_vulpes: pretty confident that there's no dust at play, so i'll look for this min fee config
mircea_popescu: actually, nevermind seats ; ima sit down on a human back for this one.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 18:03 asciilifeform: in other lulz, nobody noticed this puzzler, so i'ma put it in the l0gz :
https://archive.li/i7BRf << cr50 magic rsa keys; the montgomery multiplier etc uses hardcoded constant, 96 word ( i.e. 3072 bit ) for the mults, but the keyblobs are 97 , for some strange reason, in size...
mircea_popescu: how they managed to waste all the rooks with most of the pawns still in the way is an exercise left to the specialists.
mircea_popescu: culture of superficial witnits, why not set down the famous fischer-panno or something of kasparov's or w/e.
mircea_popescu: im not curling some pdf, fuck 'em, let them learn how to use the web if they want to spread their drivel.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: the bit i have yet to unravel is why it thinks there's change to generate
BingoBoingo: In other news the venezolana is back to Venezuala for 3.5 weeks starting tomorrow to take care of her now late father's affairs
BingoBoingo: Looking like I might end up trying Cervantes sooner
ben_vulpes: i'm out of time on this particular trbism, bbl