mircea_popescu: in other lulz, "Uber’s lawyer: What is the patent that is left in the case, as you understand it? Page: I have no idea." (from google-uber suit, via #bolix).
mod6: <+asciilifeform> aka 'herniators' << lol
mod6: Remy Le Croix in that gif
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: lulz from the dood suggesting "in between server",
http://eschatologist.net/blog/ : ""Italian author Umberto Eco defined “Ur-Fascism” in an article in the New York Review of Books in June, 1995. It can be distilled into fourteen points. It’s worth taking a look at these to see just what our society is dealing with when it comes to “alt-right” Neo-Nazis and the ideology they promote.
mircea_popescu: somehow herdemocracy pantsuits very visible among the lisp crowd.
mircea_popescu: anyway, rather lulzy nonsense. "because it rejects the decay started with the age of pantsuit, it therefore is irrationalist". because totally, the french communists invented thinking.
mircea_popescu: which is a subtle shift from what mp actually says on the topic. primo strawman.
mircea_popescu: of course, #14 becomes problematic seeing how the general pantsuit objection is "too complex".
mircea_popescu attempted to leave comment ("You're not very smart, are you. You'd like to be, obviously. But that's not the same thing."). on every attempt, a different field is supposedly not filled.
mircea_popescu: and then eventually, "internal error or misconfiguration"
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would register width matter ? can't have 4 bit gnat for some reason ?
mircea_popescu: getting back to the "i'm from california and thereby i'm fucked in the head" thread, "Configure GitHub to look Symbolicsish ; Configure YouTube to look Symbolicsish". this "task" pretty much explains the whole thing imo.
mircea_popescu: myeah, i figured "fuck you, write the paging yourself" the moment 4 bit was out of my mouth.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-03 03:39 asciilifeform: phf ^ is he one of yours ?
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2719.84, vol: 8939.05416383 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2713.3, vol: 22831.32753829 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2720.672955, vol: 14635.66870000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2726.99, vol: 7289.61562388 | Volume-weighted last average: 2718.25690618
cazalla: asciilifeform, NSA actually ships? :P nice
☟︎ cazalla: listening to a podcast with that neo bee danny brewster guy being interviewed, says he should've listened to mircea_popescu lol
☟︎ jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-03 08:51 cazalla: asciilifeform, NSA actually ships? :P nice
shinohai: " put on hold as primarily opinion-based by ....... Pieter Wuille,Jul 29 at 17:41 "
BingoBoingo dreamt that mp staged a "reality show" style social experiment. Series of competitions where contestants were coached to act on Trilema principles, "cause not purpose" to prevail. Then as soon as contestants were told filimg stopped the "moo-moo" resumed.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Limited edition collectible soaps were then made from the contestants and offered to fans.
shinohai is still amazed people actually use Ripple
a111: Logged on 2017-08-03 08:54 cazalla: listening to a podcast with that neo bee danny brewster guy being interviewed, says he should've listened to mircea_popescu lol
ben_vulpes: that anonymint feller is really going for the gold in plagiarism
mircea_popescu: hey, there's such paucity of ideas in the fiat world, it's somehow unsurprising when escaped victim goes hog wild in the clover patch.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-03 14:53 asciilifeform: also lol re the attempted theft of the name 'trb'/'the real bitcoin'
a111: Logged on 2017-08-03 15:17 BingoBoingo dreamt that mp staged a "reality show" style social experiment. Series of competitions where contestants were coached to act on Trilema principles, "cause not purpose" to prevail. Then as soon as contestants were told filimg stopped the "moo-moo" resumed.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-03 14:53 asciilifeform: also lol re the attempted theft of the name 'trb'/'the real bitcoin'
trinque: at least two archive.is links doing that
trinque: asciilifeform's worked earlier
mod6: yah ^ also having issues
mod6: it worked for me 1st time...
mircea_popescu: anyway, bitcoin crash now at 200phash or so. basically, one solitary guy and whatever gear he managed to rent.
mircea_popescu: though i suppose that may well be a major overstatement. evaluation process too noisy to correctly catch just how fast it's dropping.
ben_vulpes: are those anynomint/stack overflow archive links dead for anyone besides me?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo For the month of July 2017, Qntra published 37 articles for a total of 3993 words.* < is that star like a footnote ?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> anyway, bitcoin crash now at 200phash or so. basically, one solitary guy and whatever gear he managed to rent. << remember when 200p was like insane amt?
mod6: heheh. now, just one dude in hk trying to promote his motel or some shit. :D
mircea_popescu: btw, where did we lulz at some fake news outlet printing a pdf straight up thereby allowing the usg goons to pick up their source ?
trinque: mircea_popescu: the node's behind, and looks like it's not getting anything from its connections. I'll look into it.
trinque: I may have misunderstood the wires patch behavior.
trinque: did a wire to one node mean not trying to eat from others, or merely "highest priority to wire"
trinque: k, that's all I had, not "connect"
trinque: at any rate, going to disable the wire for now and see what happens
trinque: what I see in my logs is many BANNED and many "no message in first 60 seconds"
trinque: could be that I diddle the RPC hole too often for this node
trinque: will have a few things to chew on re: trb once this walletbot sits down.
trinque: the thing wants at least a sendrawtxn, external txnmaker, and address tracking without holding privkey
trinque: also wants P, of course :)
trinque: an external adatronic otpulator makes dealing with transactional items diddled by the web safer, as I see it
trinque: otp generator can keep an audit trail, which can be run out of band when moving actual coin.
trinque: doesn't match, sorry folks, going back to the last transaction batch
trinque: I'm going to do a writeup when released, still putting it together.
trinque: the otp part discussed here stands alone, though. a rather dumb piece of software can keep track of encrypted OTPs it dispatched, the corresponding command (which sits in the encrypted item), and when it got the OTP back.
trinque: works for an accounting db, wot, w/e
trinque: otp box can be msdos over serial port, input parsing is trivial (key parameters, hash of command; so all numeric - none causing branching)
trinque: ah probably string of command, since folks need to see what it is they've gotten an OTP for. at any rate, still not branch-causing.
trinque: if there were a hardware-only way of logging what traveled over that serial port, even better. that'd be the audit trail instead of the OTP box's disk.
☟︎ trinque: ^ obviously comments welcome.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no i know, i already put it in teh report.
mircea_popescu: "For ready comparison, the "journalists" of the Empire of Stupid were mentally slow and bodily lazy enough to publish a pdf that betrayed their source last month." links it neh.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-03 17:23 asciilifeform: which i demonstrated (at least to my satisfaction) as caused by slow verification on ~own~ end, of incoming blocks
shinohai: From the sewer: "I think bcash sounds much cooler than bitcoin. the name bitcoin feels like myspace, bcash feels like facebook."
a111: Logged on 2017-08-03 17:41 trinque: if there were a hardware-only way of logging what traveled over that serial port, even better. that'd be the audit trail instead of the OTP box's disk.
mircea_popescu: ^ very much recommended for audit, this, btw. oldest system known to man, ticker tape, for telegraph and stock exchange. still unbeaten.
mircea_popescu: also fine. the whole idea is the ticker tape, not the method necessarily.
mircea_popescu: actually b) is stronger than "Read only". FIXED ENTHALPY TIME FLOW.
mircea_popescu: how did the poet put it, "the writing head does write, and having writ, moves on
☟︎ mircea_popescu: really this should be the motto of something. "The moving finger writes ; and, having writ, moves on. Nor all thy Piety nor Wit shall lure it back to cancel half a line ; nor all thy tears wash out a word of it."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the reason i even quoted etc is that for all the diversity, no actual stupidity came out. so...
trinque: see what the complexity hell did to my mind? "not printers, those are a nightmare cesspool"
trinque: still are, I can confirm :p
a111: Logged on 2017-08-03 18:07 asciilifeform: trinque: incidentally i recently purchased a number of thermal printers from dying ratshacks, you can have one for cost of postage
mircea_popescu: trinque i'll dare say it's something else. have you ever seen "a man for all seasons" ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ok, well, if you're curious to delve into what did what to your mind, go see it sometime, and see it so that you answer me the question of "what did moore do wrong ?"
trinque: interesting, will watch it soon.
mircea_popescu: definitely one of the ten best anglo movies ever made, at any rate.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-03 17:43 asciilifeform: it is ~perfect : 1) no way for enemy to unhappen logs short of burning the bldg 2) easy to scroll through, read 3) thermal paper burns great
a111: Logged on 2017-08-03 17:51 asciilifeform: ... "I've spoken to the US Marshals again and they say they have no record of Marcus being in the system. At this point we've been trying to get in contact with Marcus for 18 hours and nobody knows where he's been taken," the person added. "We still don't know why Marcus has been arrested and now we have no idea where in the US he's been taken to'
trinque: funny thing was I'd already considered having the OTP box burn a CD as it went along, just shitter printing without visual inspection.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-03 17:51 asciilifeform: gasenwagen.
mircea_popescu: hey, 0.1% or so by mass, about 33% or so by output of usg.nsa/etc is zekware. and i mean this quite literally.
mircea_popescu: "So, it appears thermal stress on the Ivory CPU isn't the problem, or that the thermal stress is too great for that small heatsink to keep up with." do they not have laser thermometers where these people live or what is the problem here ?!
mircea_popescu: lol mkay. i mean this dood. and wtf already, put some probes on the baffling process, this is science ?
a111: Logged on 2017-08-03 04:08 mircea_popescu: douglas fields, was it
trinque: ah now I recall what might reduce the print audit's usefulness. it means visual inspection of the encrypted items, as well as OTPs. logger box has to first see the encrypted item, second, corresponding OTP, and then this log has to be verified by someone who can (elsewhere) crack open the encrypted ones and match up the OTPs.
trinque: tells me ordering of OTPs, but not whether one leaked out with wrong key, multiple keys, so on.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of baffling moongineering : why the fuck do they have SQUARE vent holes on places like us navy ships, where they can actually afford to design the cover rather than buy from walmart.
trinque: well, without transcribing or OCR'ing the log back in somewhere.
mircea_popescu: trinque can always hash any item that is long to check for conformity in audits.
☟︎ trinque: in order for a log of OTPs to be meaningful, in that it asserts a particular person assented to an action at a given time, gotta know the OTP corresponds to the item sent to that person. the way I've been thinking about that is encrypting the OTP with two keys, one of which I hold; the other belonging to the outside party
trinque: and that at some point a log of the encrypted OTPs and their return (as seen over that serial cable by 3rd box) is moved somewhere, and the encrypted OTPs decrypted and matched up with OTPs received
mircea_popescu: if you have an irreversible hash function, it's better than encrypting.
trinque: writing it up real quick in longer form.
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-03#1693423 << i believe man's solution was to buy another $7k xl12xx. otherwise the website is distinguished by macro photos of symbolics boards and retellings in own words of Document Examiner material (which is also available in printed form, in before asciilifeform's "i have the whole printed set")
☝︎ mircea_popescu: why the fuck would he hassle dsk for an original fucking fan though. really, copper is expensive now ?
phf: not even fan, heatsink, and i also have no idea
phf: relatedly i couldn't figure out how to attach the fan to the board without drilling into it. there's like two possible mount points, but requires machining a custom brace
mircea_popescu: the heatsink/fan assemblage is not heavy enough for the paste to not hold it. esp if upright.
phf: that's how the heatsink is attached to the surface, but i wasn't sure if it can handle the fan vibration
mircea_popescu: if it can'y you really should have a fan made industrially
phf: i mean, i figured it's ~not~ the question of weight, obviously
mircea_popescu: yet another case of "in discussing idiocy of idiots, sane people find out interesting truffs."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lol, alternative desolder to "wick lead in" , vibrate it for 6 months ? :D
mircea_popescu: "our novel eutectic alloy melts at just about 500 degrees. just as good as proper solder, and also better for the environment!!!"
a111: Logged on 2017-08-02 22:21 asciilifeform: ' RoHS = Restrictions on Hand Soldering ' ( good one. and true : as described in
http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1871 , shit dun melt worth shit with any available iron )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the other side of that chasm, of course, is that it's how euros forbade the phtalates (plastic softeners) and polybrominated crapola (flame retardants).
mircea_popescu: makes eu houses significantly more habitable than us equiv.
mircea_popescu: well, in practice the whole "flame retardant" thing never really took off. but this is not because of the rohs stuff.
phf: it is well known that things are as bad elsewhere as they are in smawpland, dc
mircea_popescu: but anyway, the fertilew swamp on which that was produced were "better building materials", ie, "let's make a house out of drywall and insulation".
mircea_popescu: you saw that "tinmen" film btw ? re the early al siding industry ? that enchanted period in the 50s that even gave memes like "wtf are you, an al siding salesman ?"
mircea_popescu: yeah, notbad film. anyway. al siding was always a scam, but that's not what i thought you meant by foil.
mircea_popescu: tbh i very much like the danielpbarron write-up style of "this is how to do x ; if you're lazy i'll do it for you costs this much".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so the idea is dood made/sold kronos w/e that was.
mircea_popescu: let me put it another way : if "the united states" is sorely hurt by a coupla grand wortha software, all those tomahawks'd better win some wars.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i care what usg thinks its laws are about as much as i think what fat girl thinks her reasons for eating are.
mircea_popescu: i thought the guy fixed wannacry. did he make wannacry ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but in our terms ; not in zimbabwestan terms. zimbabwestan may not have terms.
trinque: not that I've looked into wtf "bitcoin crash" transactions look like, distinct from trb transactions, but that'd perhaps explain it.
trinque: thought shinohai or someone'd said they'd yet failed to mine a block larger than 1mb
shinohai: trinque: I did, twas first few hours after their "fork" ... afaik still no actual > 1 mb block mined.
shinohai: I'd be surprised if anyone does, considering diff retarget will take a few months to make it have 10 min blox
mircea_popescu: trinque in principle it shouldn't have anything to do with your node, all that jazz.
mircea_popescu: anyway, as best i can see for the past coupla hours bcc hash is actually 0.
trinque: nah caught up meanwhile all that noise.
shinohai: 99% of all reporting nodes seem to still be the Amazon sybils from before.
shinohai: (Until Roger/ViaBTC budget runs out I guess)