a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 21:31 deedbot: Invoiced mircea_popescu 0.04344809 << 1 rockchip @ pizarro, april 19 2018 -- april 19 2019
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 22:01 ben_vulpes: quarter is 3 months, you bought 4
douchebag: mircea_popescu: The reason for the negrate wasn't exactly clear.
mircea_popescu: esthlos the atempt to weave practical thought and ideology isn't even fruitless ; i believe the symmetry described is truthful and informative.
mircea_popescu: nobody trusts implicitly "or else". idiots trust implicitly because they objectively lack the capacity for anything else, so it's a strict "either trust implicitly or not at all" dilemma they face.
mircea_popescu: nobody buys an ipad because "otherwise they'll get shot by LAPD". they buy the ipad because "i am so fucking stupid, i literally can't tell the difference between this piece of shit and a working programmable machine".
mircea_popescu: in this context, "if you're going to trust implicitly, either trust the republic or it's the lime pits for you" is a direct continuation of "if you're going to believe in god, you'd better fucking believe i am that god", ie some minimal mental hygiene.
esthlos: aha. so no ultimate threat of violence is needed in slave mind; the knowledge of inadequacy is enough to drive the submission? and then violence works to direct the submission?
mircea_popescu: think about it : nobody is more independent minded than street urchin. why not ? nobody's got more hard knocks.
mircea_popescu: "risks to undercover agents", in every fucking manual/imperial discussion/whatever since the days of edgar hoover (who didn't permit it, btw, and for this reason) is specifically that exposure to violence renders slave incapable of "readjusting" to "normal" environment.
mircea_popescu: yeah, not much of a theory. theory in the sense theory of evolution is theory.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-06-18 00:37 asciilifeform: meanwhile oh hey mircea_popescu time to reclaim yer rockchip ? ( you paid for it, iirc subscription is good through june )
spyked: hey neato, lobbes! /me (re)reads.
mircea_popescu: yes, i have notices/dccs/whatever featurecreep they "updated" irc with turned off.
mircea_popescu: it's shocking how many improvements one beenfits from not benefitting from.
mircea_popescu: "if we act like it matters then it almost does" ? how cute.
mircea_popescu: europe is such a lulzy shithole these days. sorta like the whiplash of its erstwhile colonies.
mircea_popescu: "those nameless idiots in siouxland are eating turd sandwiches, so we here in paris must therefore eat turd wellington!!11"
mircea_popescu: anyway, github is very much going the way of livehornal / slashdot.
mircea_popescu: the dood was a talented talk-psych, good structure of thought in his head.
mircea_popescu: sadly, he got to operate among the "pills work!!!" imbeciles, went on the bottle.
mircea_popescu: there's some depth here : talk psychiatry works for intelligent people only, and even then dubiously ; chem psychiatry does not work, at all, except it does disorient. this is sufficient in some views, in the sense that humans can't distinguish dizzy cows from plain cows, and angry bulls are kinda scary. so it's the perfect "solution" to the problem of "unruly nigger". cheaper than the previous perfect solution (which was als
mircea_popescu: o very medical - a dood donned a butcher's leather apron and sent gibbets flying every which way 8 hrs/day).
mircea_popescu: obviously inca has no problem losing out the one thing that can sorta-maybe fix smart people in trouble. what it needs is something entirely else ; as everywhere else across the vast field of possibility.
mircea_popescu: and so, the modern little lysenkos have the united-soviet government convinced of their brand of nonsense ; much like the others.
mircea_popescu: hanbot btw, the ^ is involved in the large discussion re "physical exhaustion / muscle toxin buildup causes depression".
mircea_popescu: and then the decadents want to herp about colors and be "symbolists".
mircea_popescu: i dunno how aware you are of all this, but here : the previous set of "holy shit, the inca's a pile of idiocy" folk deserted the leadership under the flag of "we just want to". you know ?
mircea_popescu: no. late 1800s, it became evident, just as today, that the emperor is thoroughly naked.
mircea_popescu: this led to a strict rejection of "modern science" and "the rational process", thereby implicitly of "modern democracy" (it was just as modern then, too) and so forth.
mircea_popescu: intelligent people grouped about, and the grouping was named "decadence" (in french, because the world was french then).
mircea_popescu: then sometime in the 90s there was a split : the bulk of these intelligents decided "we just want to", ie, "not interested in politics", proceeded to discuss colors, in the vein of
mircea_popescu: "Lentement, il tria, un à un, les tons. Le bleu tire aux flambeaux sur un faux vert; s'il est foncé comme le cobalt et l'indigo, il devient noir; s'il est clair, il tourne au gris; s'il est sincère et doux comme la turquoise, il se ternit et se glace. À moins donc de l'associer, ainsi qu'un adjuvant, à une autre couleur, il ne pouvait être question d'en faire la note dominante d'une pièce. D'un autre côté, les gris f
mircea_popescu: er se renfrognent encore et s'alourdissent; les gris de perle perdent leur azur et se métamorphosent en un blanc sale; les bruns s'endorment et se froidissent; quant aux verts foncés, ainsi que les verts empereur et les verts myrte, ils agissent de même que les gros bleus et fusionnent avec les noirs; restaient donc les verts plus pâles, tels que le vert paon, les cinabres et les laques, mais alors la lumière exile leur
mircea_popescu: bleu et ne détient plus que leur jaune qui ne garde, à son tour, qu'un ton faux, qu'une saveur trouble. "
mircea_popescu: and unrelenting such idiocy. this called itself "symbolism", to dissociate itself from the terrorists.
mircea_popescu: ~this~ is the fundamental reason the tsar got killed ; lenin isn't so much a "bolshevik" as he is a decadent, in this proper sense : "by fucking god ima hang all of you", spoken 1890.
mircea_popescu: moreover, this is how prinz whoever the fuck got bombed in 1914, and how everything else.
mircea_popescu: yes, ideology, but not AT ALL the ideology retconned in place of reality cca 1960.
mircea_popescu: simply the ideology marx explicitly feared, "they'll rally around a flag saying 'mort aux cons' instead of our pantsuit preference".
mircea_popescu: and this is, also, the deep justification of nazism. "if they actually flatten the modern democracy science & reason idiots, we don't even care if there's no more jews".
mircea_popescu: which is how all the cool kids were nazi, and how come the nazis had the cool art, and so forth.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-22 04:08 asciilifeform: in other veryolds, 'you'll feel no dismay, watching your house burn, after you get to see how the bedbug dies!' (korean proverb)
mircea_popescu: aaannyway. the pantsuit co-opting of what originally was "fuck your broken github-based must-upgrade process" into their own stinking folds is the ultimate act of cultural appropriation. and why "the left" is "turbulent" and "self-hating".
mircea_popescu: it's not fucking self-hating at all, lol, it's simply not a thing.
mircea_popescu: the mammies that "just wanna" "the system" to continue "until they get their pension" are supposed to share a seat with the "fuck you all and if you all burn tomorrow it's not soon enough" smart people. duh ?
mircea_popescu: yes, but then the farmer seats bull at table, and spends the evening wondering why the chair doesn't seem to fit and why this fellow won't say grace with him.
mircea_popescu: and then they keep getting humiliatingly defeated any ol' fucking time i feel like, and they "explain it".
mircea_popescu: this being the deep issue of the "rezistenta prin cultura" after all.
mircea_popescu: alf says " this encourages the idjit farmers." i ask "and in that, are they the dumber, even ?"
mircea_popescu: this is the substance of the rtc wank in the post-war years.
mircea_popescu: it's at the very least what their lawyer entered as a plea.
mircea_popescu: in any case : the present pile of sad is the result of numerous betrayals and cowardries.
mircea_popescu: it's not just e a blair going "oh noes, what if the indian mob laughs at my gun!!1 better wet the bed" 1920s ; it's not just j k huysmans going "il s'arrangea, enfin, de façon à ne pas être souvent obligé de leur parler ou de les voir.
mircea_popescu: " 1880s because totally, that's what you have servants for, not to rule their life but to hide away cowering somewhere ; it's not just that ladri de biciclete clearly and plainly shows the ~exact same~ roman insulae, 1950 as 19.5 -- except thoroughly deserted of the pater familias that'd have ~been~ ~there~ in the first century.
mircea_popescu: we could even go so far as to say that inca is the chain-of-knaves.
mircea_popescu: "i got better things to do than put the woman on her knees, and besides, she's loud and wet about it" etcetera.
mircea_popescu: so that waffling, inept d'annunzion wanna-be, amilcare andrea, is elected by his enemies as the least dangerous among his friends. cuz that's how papal elections work, and have worked since forever.
mircea_popescu: there are two important meetings in his new life : one is when a fellow named francesco cuccia shows him the way of his country ; the other is when a fellow not named schicklgruber shows him the way of his fancy.
mircea_popescu: it is clear to the dork that he has to pick one, and notwithstanding his very model comes to life for him to warn against following the former (in the uncertain terminology of "you'll end up germans' bootblacks"), nevertheless he doesn't pick reality. because he can't pick reality, because he's a ghost not a person.
mircea_popescu: now try and construct a thought process explaining mussolini's choice in ~any other terms~ than the foregoing, i wish to see it. why exactly did he not say "o boy, i am so impressed, the government is henceforth to be formed exclusively from among the sicilian men of honor" but instead said "o boy, i am so impressed, the government is henceforth to be formed exclusively as per german orders" ?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-12 20:40 mircea_popescu: you're not going to reproduce the former by the latter ; just like you're not going to lure my slavegirls away by promising to be "a good sensitive guy with a great sense of humor".
mircea_popescu: yes, but see, that women welcome rape is one thing. that the boi pretending to some kind of superhumanity in the nitschean vein does so while dressed in garters and pigtails is the wonderment.
mircea_popescu: why pretend you're "superwoman" ?! it makes no sense WHATSOEVER.
mircea_popescu: and then of course, to cherry the cocktail, pretend you're all about ~reason~ hurr.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well if that's what he was aiming for the german bootlick approach is even less comprehensible.
mircea_popescu: i mean in some places, like iran or w/e, actual theological approaches were fielded. but in yurp it was still mostly a matter of burgeois thought, aka "reason"
mircea_popescu: and "englightment", "progress", "future", the whole enchilada.
mircea_popescu: and consider also the makework angle, it's fucking beautiful. so german-italy, as a thoroughly nosnese piece of fanfic/wank, needs some sort of something to hold it together. what do they pick ? oh, eritrea! which they can't do, but need german airplanes etcv for (and still can't do). meanwhile sicilian-italy'd have had no such problem at all, THEY don't need eritrea for anything.
mircea_popescu: somehow the imaginary kingdom of sardinia CAN very much conquer all of italy ; but the very real kingdom of sicily ? no WAI omfgbbq!!! how could something ~real~ occur!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this whole discussion suddenly explains the difficulty of noobs showing up. when asked who they are, the block is "i dunno how to communicate MY DREAMS to you". duh.
mircea_popescu: it's an un~reasonable~ demand. the ~reason~ it's a dream is so it dun make sense.
mircea_popescu: if they started making sense, even a little, where would they be ?
mircea_popescu: the only problem is that islam's been retarded for a long, long time. they had a brief culturalization period under the (mostly, disinterested) turks, but otherwise they periodically prune the tinking folk (say, persians).
mircea_popescu: looks more like "we too want to eat cake, but not using mouth." even if they manage to shove some cream up butthole, it still won't taste that good.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: which is ~precisely~ what they did. the only way to have an empire is by empowering the empire builders, which at the time in italy were sicilians. trying to "we too empire" without the earlier described maneuver is exact identity with trying to eat cake but not use mouth.
mircea_popescu: "oh, roma colon can also". sure. look how well it worked, shit everywhere!
BingoBoingo: The only result or Italian Imperial aspirations was convincing Ethiopia they "R REEL impire 2"
mircea_popescu: kinda how present day ustards get all sorts of orcs hot and bothered.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, a bunch of subnormal "usians of color" actually bought this nonsense.
mircea_popescu: "if you like your counterfit identity, i recommend you don't look into how it was produced".
mircea_popescu: in other news BingoBoingo maybe it's time you try cervantes. it's much better in original.
mircea_popescu: gil blas also, and generally their medieval productions.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, that's almost 100% whore/stripper fare, the "ancient pharaonic nigger" wank.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I was thinking about that actually. Get into the language before it was split by the Empire days.
mircea_popescu: pro tip : southerners in egypt cca 3k years ago lived exactly like southerners in us cca 200 years ago : it was presumed they were someone's slave as a matter of course, because how else beast in city.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Pyramid Space Ships are a bonafide religious belief of the "Nation of Islam"
mircea_popescu: this inanity nearly soured me to might&magic series. fucking 6th episode features some spaceship pyramid thing massively.
mircea_popescu: then they did the "crystal" bs and it actually soured me, on the 9th.
mircea_popescu: it's such a sad property of 90s video games that the further in, the less effort per square foot. endless straight corridors and bs.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's transparently a case of "we optimize for average player", imo. if they figure out 90% of time-spent-playing by a playerbase that averages 30% completion is in the first 10% of the game, therefore they'll aim to spend 90% of resources to make that first 10%.
mircea_popescu: The essence of this meme is when black people say things like ‘We wuz kangz while you wuz in caves!‘ << he's apparently ignorant enough to quote proper source.
mircea_popescu: this was disraeli, pm, responding to some jewhate wank fashionable at the time.
BingoBoingo: ESL is a curse, especially when WikiBritain keeps redirecting their Fritzchip articles to TPM wank
BingoBoingo: Alf blowback killed the wikipedo Fritzchip article
BingoBoingo: Wikipedia before alf published his cr50 expose had an article on Fritzchips. Now it doesn't
BingoBoingo: Instead it redirects to "Trusted Platform Module"
BingoBoingo: I though we already lolled over this in chan here
BingoBoingo: I haven't investigated the wikipedo timestamps for this perversion
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 14:37 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the entomological pit :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AFritz-chip >> 'I've deleted most of the article. The information here is already presented in a more up-to-date fashion at Trusted Computing, which is the correct title for the technology. "Fritz-chip" was never more than a moniker used by critics of the technology put forth by Sen. Hollings. The article now represents this fact. Warrens 23:24, 29 April 2006 (
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
deedbot: SoldierOfFortune voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: SoldierOfFortune: WHo is your daddy and what does he do?
a111: Logged on 2017-10-17 05:59 jurov: "The flaw resides in the Infineon-developed RSA Library version v1.02.013, specifically within an algorithm it implements for RSA primes generation. "
a111: Logged on 2018-06-18 17:02 mircea_popescu: looks more like "we too want to eat cake, but not using mouth." even if they manage to shove some cream up butthole, it still won't taste that good.
phf: asciilifeform: americans are uncomfortable with own butts. "enema" is a european concept that only freaky health nut anorexic girls are into..
☟︎ phf: their solution to shit coffee is putting milk and syrups (see also "bulletproof coffee"), kind of like the solution to poor soil and bad farming practices is to put "dressing" on vegetables
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 16:48 asciilifeform: and i'm still curious what an elephant-killing dose of gamma would do to the cr50.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: are people selling the "nitro cold brew on tap" perversity in your area yet?
ben_vulpes: well and also industrial food production pipeline optimized to crap out same five products everywhere.
phf: asciilifeform: they burn the seeds, and then overbrew the drink, and it's exactly that "come to expect". girl worked in a coffee shop, but having been exposed to good coffee she brews it "soft", and lots of people complained that it's "watery". of course there was also a group of european expats that religiously came every morning
☟︎ ben_vulpes: burn the beans because "more flavor", which burns the caffeine off, which demands mas grounds for same "lift"; escalator to shitsville
ben_vulpes: phf: is "seeds" a ru-ism or are "beans" an usgism
phf: ben_vulpes: i couldn't remember the correct en word and punted
phf: i think ruism would be "grains"
phf: although seeds also works, yes
phf: (that was entirely unrelated to conversation, i'm just using it to get a transliteration out)
hanbot:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-17#1826240 << are you for fucking real? what you're actually saying: "i just got back" = "fuck all y'all." "what was the" = "i can't be bothered to read, so how about you read for me and lay a ribbon-tied summary at my feet like i could be you and you could be my slavegirls and work for me!" "exact reason i was negrated" = "and don't bother me with the details, i dun gas, i just want to know how to exam take this th
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-06-17 18:54 douchebag: mircea_popescu: I just got back, what was the exact reason I was negrated?
hanbot: don't imagine the kneejerk retort of it "wasn't intentional" is going anywhere. it was intentional, you're the degree of moron whose intentions are hidden from "himself", assuming we'll pretend there's a "yourself" to be hidden from in the first place. which we mostly don't. isn't this beautiful, he magicallly knows how everything goes, even how to sort things, starts with the fuck you, everything. just as long as it's pro-inca, 'cause being a re
hanbot: publican is fuckin' impossible. inconceivable!
hanbot: !!rate douchebag -3 Pretentious exam taker that won't read to save his life.
hanbot: !!v 70C558622C5B725961A6CE7391E8B20A669E950A38E00EF88F547BDFE632E2D1
deedbot: hanbot rated douchebag -3 << Pretentious exam taker that won't read to save his life.
mircea_popescu regrets that family problems have unfortunately prevented him from reading those portions of the logs added by douchebag
a111: Logged on 2018-06-18 17:51 asciilifeform: in re cr50 -- if anybody's puzzled re why they put this level of effort into locking down what is essentially a less-popular, bulkier ipnoje -- it's a beta test for bleeding edge of their pc fritz ( the latter, reportedly already in service in google-built serverz in datacentres )
a111: Logged on 2018-06-18 18:02 asciilifeform: !#s coffee enema
a111: Logged on 2018-06-18 18:09 phf: asciilifeform: americans are uncomfortable with own butts. "enema" is a european concept that only freaky health nut anorexic girls are into..
a111: Logged on 2018-06-18 18:12 phf: their solution to shit coffee is putting milk and syrups (see also "bulletproof coffee"), kind of like the solution to poor soil and bad farming practices is to put "dressing" on vegetables
a111: Logged on 2018-06-18 18:14 asciilifeform: or how meat gets , as matter of routine, an elephant dose from electron gun ( or, sometimes, co-60 ) , 'or unsafe to sell'
a111: Logged on 2018-06-18 18:20 asciilifeform: i suspect -- on pretty much whole globe minus usa.
mircea_popescu: contemporary german hates coffee like his granpa hated jews.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-18 18:26 phf: asciilifeform: they burn the seeds, and then overbrew the drink, and it's exactly that "come to expect". girl worked in a coffee shop, but having been exposed to good coffee she brews it "soft", and lots of people complained that it's "watery". of course there was also a group of european expats that religiously came every morning
a111: Logged on 2018-06-18 18:30 asciilifeform: in de, en, ro iirc beans.
mircea_popescu: nah, they have the tetrapak milk here. for some reason they don't understand milk.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-18 19:19 hanbot:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-17#1826240 << are you for fucking real? what you're actually saying: "i just got back" = "fuck all y'all." "what was the" = "i can't be bothered to read, so how about you read for me and lay a ribbon-tied summary at my feet like i could be you and you could be my slavegirls and work for me!" "exact reason i was negrated" = "and don't bother me with the details, i dun gas, i just want to know how to exam take this th
mircea_popescu: rather, "i expect you to adapt to me". or, to quote the freshest social media cunt, "I'd have to provide a lot of terms and conditions". because... totally, what, democracy and shit.
mircea_popescu: like "politics", at least the "just the facts" version jewmedia put on their collegiate github page.
mircea_popescu: mcdonalds/walmart adapt to the exact needs of each customer coming in! ask them! and if this adaptation isn't obvious to you, it's because they are already perfectly adapted as they are. ask them!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, to unite those other threads, there is ~a reason~ simulated culture, be it in the shape of "trained" bacteria or "trained" "expert systems" or whatever else "unlearn faster than they learn".
mircea_popescu: not having the mechanism that can say no, they end up "adapting to newcomers" which reduces total culture quotient in the system.
trinque: phf, Mocky, and others waiting on cuntoo, the genesis.vpatch which contains only the ebuilds necessary for a minimal system is about 4mb.
☟︎ trinque: obviously this is far into "difficult to meat-verify" territory, so what I'm working on is a set of instructions such that another can produce the same genesis.vpatch himself.
trinque: we'll have a clear chain of custody back into ye olde gentoo, and from there can continue to digest the turd. subsequent vpatches should only ever contain one ebuild plus that ebuild's deps.
trinque: opening this up for discussion now in case anyone thinks the approach is batshit.