mircea_popescu: i like these "as an X" aspirationals.

mircea_popescu: undata> hell to most of the people alive, that's the rational position to take >> quite.

mircea_popescu: decimation one of the most interesting aspects of systemd is the irrationality of the proponents. it's almost as if you're discussing theology with the flat earth society or geophysics with the global warming cult of washington dc.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: real reason: it is an extraordinarily expensive, multi-generational project to keep the entire field from developing. <<< what sense does that make ?

mircea_popescu: HECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY can be used to create outputs that are provably spendable by anyone (thus to mining fees assuming miners behave optimally and rationally) but only at a time sufficiently far into the future that large miners profitably can't sell the sacrifices at a discount.

mircea_popescu: http://oglaf.com/fountain-of-death/ << further rational process

mircea_popescu: http://oglaf.com/fountain-of-doubt/ << rational process.

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i don't suspect the guy actually acts rationally.

mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski: ;;later tell DanielKrawisz Looking forward to seeing you rationalize this gem <<< i dunno, it's like the guy went off the deep end past coupla weeks.

mircea_popescu: "Evidence of media fakery that implied corruption in the local health authority and indeed in NHS England. It was one of many similar fake news stories - viz the engineered "Mid Staffs Crisis" used to provide the pretext for rationalising and closing health facilities across the country."

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im running a sort of generational modelling thing i hacked together. this is my idea of fun.

mircea_popescu: yes, but this "republicans are better than democrats" bs is neither rational nor something to ever consider.

mircea_popescu: "I want to make this clear. This is not the result of a conspiracy or collusion. This is the outcome of flawed economic incentives and the reaction to them by participants. Hardware used to mine is irrelevant. The underlying rationale regarding distribution of newly created bitcoins is flawed."

mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> think about that for a bit << seems rational to me. where'd you put it ?

mircea_popescu: hanbot: hehe how's one supposed to do such rational calculations from inside a closed box? << ha! she got you there.

mircea_popescu: because the world is fair and people rational.

mircea_popescu: <punkman> what is a rationalization hamster? << supposedly what women do when they've been rejected by a magical boy of magic, they go in a corner and worry and obsessively rethink the experience.

mircea_popescu: Times is doing its usual rationalizations for the intellectual and other deficiencies of blacks. I did not read the entire article,but I’d say that it’s fair possibility that it ends up asserting that these students are culturally and geographically isolated by racial discrimination and by the lack of special federal programs that inform them of the existence of better schools. .The eternal top-priority project and

mircea_popescu: Duffer1 people who know they're wasting their time/resources tend to engage in this bizarre rationalizing process whereby by reducing the expense their wasted effort is... less wasted ?

mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> why do we have floating point hardware instead of rational arithmetic towers? << but we don't. we have rational arithmetic towers pretending (unconvincingly) to be floating point hardware

mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, for the capacities of the basic rational agent, they'd seem to have a point, too!

mircea_popescu: proponents of such tailored "knowledge" will understandably fight tooth and nail with some classes of rational approach, such as the people who use the counterexample effectually (aka, trolls)

mircea_popescu: bounce no dude. that's how they rationalize it, but really, the problem is the money is worthless. to maintain its appearance of value, its use has to be limited

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves http://rationalmale.wordpress.com/ start there follow links ?

mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> my wife is all 'maybe this bitcoin thing isnt such a good idea' << if i had to take a bet on the matter, it'd go like so : it has exactly zero to do with any rationalisation she comes up with and everything to do with how annoyingly you've changed since getting involved with these loser geeks.

mircea_popescu: http://www.iambetterthanyourkids.com/images/inspirational/be_so_happy3.jpg << the main difference between russians and us people ? observe how evstafiev holds the woman's hand.

mircea_popescu: the difference'd be rinduieli can be rationally defended, datini are not.

mircea_popescu: hey. it seems it'll take a while until this problem will be operationalized enough to be acceptable.

mircea_popescu: they're fucking quotes. the point here being that i comfortably define myself in the terms of the would-be insults various folk tried to tack on over the years. the years of me being and their coming and going. whereas you're stuck aspirationally trying to add labels to yourself. it's a fundamental difference at work.

mircea_popescu: collect money from well to do white people, trick aspirational hispanos into working for free to "prove themselves", show a profit.

mircea_popescu: "The Bitcoin community is not just overwhelmingly larger but of overwhelmingly better quality as well. Bitcoin is surrounded by real entrepreneurs working hard to create new and useful services for Bitcoin. Altcoins are surrounded by loud-mouthed pretenders with irrational hopes of duplicating Nakamoto's success."

mircea_popescu: <guevara246> the rationale being applied to chargeback and fraud < yes.

mircea_popescu: so my rationale is, make a place which actually only lists legitimate venues, people won't have the problem i had anymore.

mircea_popescu: results of social pressures and generational conditioning are dictated by human nature or that human nature guides human behavior under these extraordinarily distorted circumstances.

mircea_popescu: i guess rational consistency isn't that big a deal when one's got feeeehlings.

mircea_popescu: bitcoin is the perfect tool for intergenerational warfare.

mircea_popescu: there's no possibility of any sort of rational process involved, he's some guy who figures he's going to "do damage" to mpex by being stupid online.

mircea_popescu: http://therationalmale.com/2011/08/23/schedules-of-mating/ << jesus this is the most confused heap of half digested pseudoscientific excrement ever.

mircea_popescu: <ColinT> I'm not someone who thinks rationally in groups - because groups of people don't think rationally << depends on the group.

mircea_popescu: chetty i dunno, i thought obstructionist is someone who opposes a process for emotional rather than rational reasons.

mircea_popescu: ok so the great news is, mpex is fully operational.

mircea_popescu: the market can't stay irrational longer than i have patience.

mircea_popescu: rational people probably wouldn't have had these things anyway

mircea_popescu: here's the thing : you presume rational approach on the part of the users.

mircea_popescu: the rational approach is to stay where you got the nibble, not to leave.

mircea_popescu: what's the rational approach to that ?

mircea_popescu: "Here's a transcript of an illegal recording not done by the NSA that therefore everyone is ok with, consistent with our new standard of conduct: it is not illegal to make an illegal recording as long as it is given to the media and they profit from it and we can use it to rationalize our lives. Got it." lulzy

mircea_popescu: the only rational, and the only moral action is to feed them their own entrails

mircea_popescu: "60 Religion Protects You From Bad Science --Medicine, Expert Problems, and the Rationality of Temples" quoth taleb.

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It isn't that there is benefit derived from it. It is that when we can beat the Coindesks to the aggregators, it injures them in ways only they can rationalize. << wow that's an unexpected point.

mircea_popescu: by this rationale every competitor to apple deserves to be successful.

mircea_popescu: but meanwhile, business is made by businessmen not by aspi[rational] kids

mircea_popescu: because im not happy with the The contract operationalizes the trust values in a currency-neutral

mircea_popescu: seems rational actually

mircea_popescu: but if you fail to even identify them, that's a strategic failure. failure to talk to them compounds operational failure on top of strategic failure and is how "surprises" happen

mircea_popescu: dividends will happen if there's no rational use of capital comensurate with historical gains, so if the thing makes ~10% pa for a while, and there's no way to beat that, i'd start distributing capital

mircea_popescu: "A lot more men than women choose to do seemingly irrational things such as become petty criminals, fly homebuilt helicopters, play video games, and keep tropical fish as pets (98 percent of the attendees at the American Cichlid Association convention that I last attended were male). Should we be surprised that it is mostly men who spend 10 years banging their heads against an equation-filled blackboard in hopes of lan

mircea_popescu: "This suggests focusing on robustness, as opposed to prediction, because the system works against rational expectations, especially those consensus ideas that come out of large bureaucracies. After all, what better sufficient statistic for a mimic to exploit than some well-known regulatory bullet point that supposedly ensures trivial risk? Recessions are not going away; they are endogenous because zero mimicry is not a

mircea_popescu: now, this obviously will make everyone do nothing but good deeds (presuming rational actors),

mircea_popescu: (and even if it isn't, i'm pretty sure that's their rationale)

mircea_popescu: when you could claim you're an intenrational crochet champion, to the mouth gaping amazement of everyone.

mircea_popescu: danielpbarron it's a rational move in some circumstances, especially no limit

mircea_popescu: Satoshi Poker has $118.50/mo net operational costs for the rent of a dedicated server and VPS webhosting package (website and gameserver/bitcoin systems are hosted seperately for security reasons)

mircea_popescu: artifexd it's an educated guess, like anything else. the educated part is significant, but i've not published it. it's a complicated thing, this. i tend to readily publish the dirt on actors when they fuck up, like the sec misadventure. but it's kind-of unsportsmanlike to do the same when they're just acting rationally. anyway, complicated matter.

mircea_popescu: ce you have nothing to defend, your self-preservation instinct will not activate hitherto unused parts of your brain to come up with reasons and rationalizations for what you have done, you will not be aware that you have been taken for a ride before it is over and you "lost".

mircea_popescu: upgrading is the only economically rational form of cannibalism.

mircea_popescu: people' fucking irrational fear of people being ironically the most notable obstacle for those same people.

mircea_popescu: in this sense the rate-control agreement of the employers in sv is quite rational and in effect socially beneficial ☟︎

mircea_popescu: the us humint was never any good, even at the height of the cold war they were more of a laughingstoc operationally,

mircea_popescu: one is that a competition on operational efficiency has been transformed in a simple financial competition of "who can support dumping longer"

mircea_popescu: admitting for the sake of argument that competition happens on measurable parameters of defined products, all businesses will normally compete on operational efficiency

mircea_popescu: in general the best way to reduce irrational behaviour is to control volatility.

mircea_popescu: rational behaviour isn't exactly the rule.

mircea_popescu: that's why it's not happening, when i talk to him here i'm talking to "aspirational 19yo indian kid"

mircea_popescu: moiety the cleavage was spectaculay. oodlebunches of starving aspirational chicks wearing their friends' only designer outfit.

mircea_popescu: they rationalize away "oh but bitcoin will never be smarter than us". sure it won't. then mp comes, and you're beyond fucked.

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mircea_popescu: "Driven by their conception of rational duty, every Randian lived in – and indeed was himself – a community of spies and informers, ready to ferret out and denounce any deviations from Randian doctrine. Thus, one time a Randian, walking with a girl friend, told her that he had attended a party at which several Randians had made an impromptu tape imitating the voices of the top Randian leaders. Stricken by this dire

mircea_popescu: buyers attracted to it are prone to make irrational or emotion-

mircea_popescu: a rational stock price is rational shareholders, both current and

mircea_popescu: note “rationally related”, not “identical”: if well-regarded

mircea_popescu: a price rationally related to its intrinsic business value. (But

mircea_popescu: <Namworld> Mark will now say it's not him but the hackers who just released the info. He might be the thief and the releaser of info. << hence the "Rational, +EV move" comment earlier.

mircea_popescu: KRS-One in his position, leaking his pws is actulaly a rational, +ev move

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that https://static.pinboard.in/webstock_2014.htm is at least fucking ideologically bizarre. they represent electrification as this obscure political strategy move, when it's quite obvious the thing proceeded on economic rationale.

mircea_popescu: midnightmagic yes, but not the 14% aspirational crowd that "makes" names

mircea_popescu: no, he's aspie-rational

mircea_popescu: also aspirational.

mircea_popescu: (incidentally, cazalla's rationale is perhaps why traditionally leaders also fucked all the women.

mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan it just reduces to yet another faced of your rationality dilemma.

mircea_popescu: what's so rational about it ?

mircea_popescu: anyway : you'll never be able to have both a) agency and b) rationality.

mircea_popescu: so yeah, the summa of this thing is that hard rational positions melt away under examination.

mircea_popescu: rationale being "nobody gives a shit about pageviews"

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo how very aspirational of him.

mircea_popescu: yeah. S.ASS. Assburger, inc. An aspie-rational food product company, and MORE.

mircea_popescu: aspie-rational.

mircea_popescu: not saying it isn't necessarily, but curious as to the rationale.

mircea_popescu: mike_c there's no particular requirement that people who don't already know the rationales sould be involved in writing any code.

mircea_popescu: you'll never be able to squeeze it out operationally.