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mircea_popescu: "literate" veals, very capable of scribbling their own name in an alphabet of their choice (somehow nobody notices "using an alphabet of your own choice" is THE OPPOSITE OF SPELLING, and the exact definition of illiteracy -- all the fucking farmhands who can't read or write COULD scribble something down, anyone can screech random squgg;lies, with a shovel in a pile of dirt, with their own piss on driven snow, fingerpain
mircea_popescu: having an open ended alphabet is like having a square wheel. not how it works.
mircea_popescu: tecuane, the problem with supporting non-alphabet approaches to an alphabet is that you get the worst of both worlds.
mircea_popescu: they ~deserved~ the wiping out by confederacy of proper alphabet dunces. to make the point forever fucking plain -- IF YOU UNICODE, you will die for it.
mircea_popescu: any alphabet > octetsize is broken by that very fact.
mircea_popescu: imagine if they didn't end up with broken alphabet, like morons.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you're going to pattern-match this closely your "eliza" will be ~alphabet sized. 1tb phonebook not really "artificial" in any sense, merely parrotlicious.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "made for adsense", early republican technology that consisted of force-leaching of turkey dollars from pre-alphabet google's http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-30#1663222 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: not so for alphabet, paid that moron a mn a decade ago, its groupon is STILL GOING. and htey're claiming however many billions
mircea_popescu: you're familiar with how alphabet co pretends to have income ?
mircea_popescu: in other words, the alphabet nonsense is certified to never do anything [to break out of the gulag] whereas the shitcoin nonsense just fucking might. unlikely as all hell, nevertheless unlikely's too dangerous a danger!
mircea_popescu: incidentally, usg.cloudflare got apparently mandated to involve usg.alphabet, they now import it
mircea_popescu: you are talking to a computer ; if you open a tag you close it ; nobody gives a shit what you ~thought~ the alphabet meant.
mircea_popescu: "oh but mp, accurate glyph for lol would have to include sound" "so ?" "so we can't do that" "you can't do any of the other shits you're doing either..." "but a limit must be drawn!" "no, motherfucker. a limit must be drawn alphabet existed already. you're the no limits may be drawn crowd. fucking hang by your own petard, lol is a face emitting sound as glyph!"
mircea_popescu: google does all sorts of "useful" things, basically trying to copy the tmsr model. they have a "google fonts" thing half the sites on the internet link (and in the process, give usg details on the zeks whereabouts every so often) ; they have a "code repository" about a quarter the sites on the internet link (this is instrumental in the multi-mb liquid shit webpage era -- 0 cost liquid shit provided by usg's own alphabet. they
mircea_popescu: like ye olde ;;google worked but really, no reason to have google still involved in any web process (in fact, i very much recommend iptable-blocking all their ip ranges, because whether you know or not, 80% or so of websites out there tattle back to usg.alphabet, via "google analytics" or w/e else)
mircea_popescu: afaik alphabet all lives there, notwisthanding "tech corp" pretense.
mircea_popescu: yes, but you're making less than alphabet is from this deal.
mircea_popescu: same exact fucking thing, we'll have long buried alphabet and they'll still have hidden under dirty mattresses "certificates of achievement"
mircea_popescu: not anymore than anyone over at alphabet gives a shit about the misadventures of amstan ; or anyone at redhat about the new hole in boeck's ass, or etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, alphabet essentially survives, in the perceptible rather than the byzantine imaginarium sense, out of their orclands outposts. exactly as described in http://trilema.com/2014/la-florida-and-other-places/#selection-121.0-121.824
mircea_popescu: you mean specifically on sending alphabet packing out of computing ? or more generally ?
mircea_popescu: a de-alphabet'd item that has no functioning power button is actually acceptable.
mircea_popescu: this paradigm readily explains the soviet state - "rock and roll" relationship, and moreover that historical accident had a lot to do with why alphabet even ~exists~ today. otherwise, on the naked strength of imaginary "advertising revenue" google is worth ~dozen stackexchanges/slashdots/sourceforges. but, generals always fight last year's war, and so here we are, "bayesian lesswisdom". ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: (laugh if you will, however a) this is EXACTLY what alphabet imagines "artificial intelligence" means and b) this is EXACTLY what they teach them to do in school these days. so... joke's on you, mr barbarian bereft of bayesian behehehnologies.)
mircea_popescu: layer 2, the general point : rss is very visible an irc-driven reaction to web idiocy. it's the web-less-est thing on the web, and for the very plain and evident consideration tha the web is wrong, EXACTLY in the way discussed here re alphabet etc, "do not ye pretend to tell the user how to display data".
mircea_popescu: douchebag how do you know yahoo is more secure than alphabet ?
mircea_popescu: the "online ads" thing is so fucking dead, alphabet continuing to claim that as income is much more scandalous fraud than anything gaddafi ever did.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-17#1771941 << it means the bar for what may be acceptable primitives is slightly lower than before ; this is not necessarily avoidable though, the advantage of having alphabet starts around having twenty or so letters only ; fifty letter "alphabet" is not much better than 5000 hieroglyphery. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but i comes before o in both alphabet and keyboard ?
mircea_popescu: Pichai (CEO of Google), who ultimately reports to Larry Page (CEO of Alphabet).
mircea_popescu: (yes they have a cvasi-alphabet, but a) it has 500 "letters" or some shit and b) it was invented about at the same time as emacs split)
mircea_popescu: but -- let it be said that alphabet mega tool on this road. yes perhaps "end of road" looks unappealing, but it makes hella difference what you travel in.
mircea_popescu: as opposed to eg alphabet co go-playing code.
mircea_popescu: also, my policy re "diacritics" as they're called is that i don't write them, but i don't actually bother to take em out from text i touch. so there's all sorts of ro literature i fixed on my blog, where it's quite evident what the original author contributed and what i put in, because the rotards are very much into this "currently correct romanian notation is alphabet + 5, down from alphabet + 12 a century ago, and THIS MATT
mircea_popescu: nah, his romanian was that of a retard, 5th grade just about. very evidently SIMPLE alphabet.
mircea_popescu: which reduces to "there ARE practical limits to labels for things ; and they are unrelated to the sizes of the things, i expect the WORD for ant, dick, car and aeroplane to all fit the ~5.6 characters rule as universally enforced in alphabet"
mircea_popescu: i read it all about alphabet inventing ai, playing go, errythang.
mircea_popescu: but the curse of stupid is amply distributed and heavy indeed. consider : for the past THREE YEARS i have been giving ANY WOMAN IN THE WORLD hundreds of dollars. this is more than ANY "organization" ever did for the women in this world, be it something from usg.alphabet, or usg.un bureaucracy or anyone else.
mircea_popescu: and the origins of akamai lie in consistent hashing much like the origins of alphabet lie in the iterated graph thing.
mircea_popescu: apparently stretchtertained is not a word, as far as the alphabet ai knows. but evidently http://trilema.com/2016/welcome-to-baluba-island/
mircea_popescu: people gotta get used to the whole alphabet schtick already, "POSSIBLE LESS, DO MORE!"
mircea_popescu: "yes, enemy has alphabet of chunks : he knows how to sign ilif every time it comes after asci and is 2nd in ther chain"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-13#1697368 << eh they've been trying to come up with something to prop up the "market cap" of alphabet for a decade now, ever since it became completely obvious "advertising" is a lol. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: https://www.ti89.com/cryptotut/rsa3.htm << very handy rsa tutorial in that it uses base 10 and alphabet-indexing for letters. so one can actually rsa by hand and get a good model of what's going on. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: vague rumors have alphabet taking over nuke softwarizing through special subsidiary also.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but no, greek alphabet and most of greek text extant is understandable. and understood. that dutch can't be arsed is neither here nor there.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-21#1587264 << so delightfully naive, in retrospect. "oh, the reason alphabet doesn't work is that the meaning of words gets lost through thousands of years, but if only they had slideshare then! the wholly contentless meaningless diagram is eternal -- nothing there to lose!" ☝︎
mircea_popescu: yes, it sounds way the fuck better in the abstract (if you're clueless, entirely devoid of either experience, any faculty for thought and any inclination to resolve either). but it's the same god damned thing -- the desire of "visual thinkers" to introduce new glyphs in the alphabet so they don't get "constrained" in their "creativity" by the present set exactly mirrors the need of the house fly to get some garbage going so i
mircea_popescu: !#s alphabet
mircea_popescu: Framedragger the "originate the idea" hogwash is ridiculouys. next you'\re going to bring defenses in copyright cases based on "grimm brothers didn't invent the alphabet so therefore ineptitude is a ok!!1"
mircea_popescu: pretty obvious alphabet co. maintains a whole department of "usg cover provisioning"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just about. and large in the sense of alcatel not in the sense of alphabet, at that.
mircea_popescu: no "global alphabet" which is why utf may not exist. pretty much everything relates to this refusal of the golden calf.
mircea_popescu: ^look ye and be amazed at the grandiose arithmetical future of alphabet, inc!
mircea_popescu: or nobody is supposed to have face recognition software outside teh alphabet ?
mircea_popescu: this apple, nsa, whatever, nobody gives a shit, but this "apple" is the empire's last hope, half-Alphabet-half-AAPL-half-contractors whatever it is. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo tecvhnically it's alphabet's
mircea_popescu: such is the rule at say alphabet ; microsoft ; etcetera.
mircea_popescu: in principle there is a strong argument to say "alphabet size = machine word size" even if this didn't hold on pre-8 bit machines. and consequently you ~could~ have a type string that always takes 4 bytes and represents whatever the fuck. the problem is that this gives you a 400% memory allocation bloat for that type of string.
mircea_popescu: the inuitive approach (oh ~obviously~ i know what a string is, just like when anne sexton writes in her spiral notebook amirite ?) utterly fails ; and even in the hands of very subtle thinkers it can explode loudly - witness the many day disagreement with alf over the matter of utf/ansi, which unearthed disputes all the way to the greek ikonoclasm and the fundaments of literacy/alphabet. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the problem with the political notion of "primitive" is that well, it's the "global warming" from before global warming. there ~is~ a scientific notion of primitive, but it's deeply political inconvenient (such as, primitive society uses hieroglyphics rather than alphabet. making the chinese primitive.) wheres the politically convenient version ("guys in next town over are primitive, because our footbal mascot is a beaver and
mircea_popescu: i'm certainly against if it means significant performance degradation for proper alphabet searches.
mircea_popescu: even something like apple - here today, gone tomorrow. alphabet inc was fdounded... 2015. ie it's not yet 2 years old. on it goes.
mircea_popescu: still. when we discuss language - the alphabet is the only standard. the dictionary is not a standard ; nor aspires to be a standard.
mircea_popescu: not so. the fucking alphabet is the only human lang standard.
mircea_popescu: somehow the small alphabet in which one can actually write - is.
mircea_popescu: guess what - whenever the problem of expression seems to be resolvable by chucking the alphabet, the problem's not of expression.
mircea_popescu: (and most of my russian is in latin alphabet, ftr)
mircea_popescu: everything is 100% ascii text. notwithstanding the damage iconoclasts of your tribe try to do to alphabet.,
mircea_popescu: phf is this for the people who bought battleships, islands, now they can buy asteroids, next alphabet letters...
mircea_popescu: yeah, it's vaguely inhuman, this. the scholar in me is constantly opressed by various shits. 1. "oh we don;t alphabet - pdf" 2. "oh you can't reference text snippet" 3. "oh we forget, what was this ? linkrot ?" and i think there's more
mircea_popescu: phf think of it like this : if letter comes earlier in alphabet, item it denotes comes earlier in time-entalpy.
mircea_popescu: right, keep to alphabet order as historical.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform didnt the us alphabet soup consist of mostly russian agents by mass throughout the 40s, 50s, etc ?
mircea_popescu: do it, you;ll be amazed at the "artificial intelligence" alphabet, inc employs.
mircea_popescu: but today machines are 64 bit. for all i care your alphabet can be on 64 bit chars.
mircea_popescu: the point is FIXED bitwidth alphabet, nothing else.
mircea_popescu: how the code LOOKS and what the code SAYS are drastically different matters. the code should say the same to everyone, but looks are unimportant. this is the same age old fundamental distinction between alphabet and literacy and symbolism and "creativity".
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag you know, the orcs that don't have alphabet because their mommies were sluts or something.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2016#1369526 << there is only one Great Cockroach, and all of these folks are merely fuzz upon its antennae. << it's funny how much of a judeoxtian fundamentalist you are seeing how you don't even alphabet! wouldn't something equally ridiculous like indian-whatever go better with your semiotic ideas ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: so then we basically are happy with an alphabet of ~100 ish characters and that's that.
mircea_popescu: so let it be said : that alphabet can NAME way more things than your symbolics can ever dream to represent. and for that matter, that from the multi-millenarian history of world culture, alphabetic notation does indeed convey richer, more numerous ideas in less space than hyeroglypghics do. which is why we fucked the chinese, and why egypt is muslim now.
mircea_popescu: you actually aim to use a dword for the alphabet encoding ?
mircea_popescu: anyway. i have nothing against lisp, neither historically nor intellectually. but this is an unsatisfactory notion of an alphabet.
mircea_popescu: the fucking point of having an alphabet is that no, it couldn't move.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so is there a special function to inquire which of two comes before in the alphabet ?
mircea_popescu: but this is blatantly not how the alphabet goes.
mircea_popescu: you're so far not content with A FINITE ALPHABET!
mircea_popescu: alphabet has its advantages.
mircea_popescu: one can think just fine in an alphabet, no need to play the egyptian priest.
mircea_popescu: learn to alphabet already, ya buncha "visual thinker" illiterate louts!
mircea_popescu: where a sequence of eleven Unicode characters would be intended to be rendered as a single colourized glyph showing a multiracial family." << these people fundamentally misunderstand what an alphabet is.
mircea_popescu: so your idea of a working gpg is "everyone must learn new alphabet now" ?
mircea_popescu: i suppose here wins. anyway : the proposed scheme has exactly the advantage of alphabet
mircea_popescu: anyway, again not sure why this isn't obvious, but the alphabet is (still is, in spite of all the "help" geeks gave it) a defined, closed, easily countable set.
mircea_popescu: text means a very specific thing. latin alphabet. nothing else. if you'd rather work with 文本, work with 文本.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski just saying, a dossier on all the ways alphabet mitigates tax is definitely a qntra worthy research project for the actuarialy inclined.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck does google even have an "alphabet" parent, since we're discussing these things ? doth qntra know? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "A company known as “Red Hat” — famous for developing the Fedora linux distro — contacted Frederick (presumably at the behest of some alphabet agency) offering to sell what amounts to a keylogger program that could be inserted into infinity next’s code. It would store every single post made by every single user on a database run by Red Hat for the use of law enforcement agencies should they require. A