ben_vulpes: my aren't we having/the bestest of fun
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mircea_popescu: "I was browseing the web for some cool thing to call my next project I swooped by Mike Davis's web page where there is alot of cool stuff and was checking out his homebuilt jet engine and it reminded me of a drawing I had in my fileing cabinet from years ago when I was still in grade school. I dug a little and whiped it out and asked my girl friend if she want to see something cool, she replied yeah so I showed my drawing,she
mircea_popescu: I kinda giggled and said yeah. So after some hard thought planning I thought, "why not" and started to redraw my picture on windows paint, so I got my initial layout ready to post on i'ables, first here is picture of a model rocket I found online perhaps an ideal candidate for my fusilage design. ofcorse mine will have to be different,unique,personalized. " << this is what ben_vulpes makes me read.
mircea_popescu: lol wife, 39, husband, 34, and "billy" friend, 28, dead.
ben_vulpes: i want to know who expects home made orbital rocket to make any sense
BingoBoingo: Seriously go orbital cannon or go home. Piss off ATF with electric ignition too!!!
ben_vulpes: me, sure, give me 500mm and 2 years. instructables though? great hopes for instructables? and wikipedia, right?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Not just theoretically. Just a challenge to get baby out.
mircea_popescu: i have about the same interest in achieving either feat is the problem.
mircea_popescu: maybe they could be joined together at the hip. have moon rocket carry baby to term.
BingoBoingo: Eh, add hormones, inject zygote into abdominal fluid 2x daily until one sticks.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Nah. Boobs matter. Particular lives tend not to.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, pregnancy is just a particular kind of cancer.
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Time since last block: 14 minutes and 20 seconds
shinohai: the pic of the security admin alone was worth the visit
ben_vulpes: > some of us even teach web dev in a graduate cs program
trinque: ben_vulpes: man, last job I had to interact with some guy who was doing a dissertation on... some python/postgresql CMS
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: what's your standard epoxy of preference?
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-27: [20:57:23] <asciilifeform> it missed a line from me.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-27: [14:25:47] <phf> so there's at least two bugs happening here :) somehow it's missing from btcbase and Framedragger's znc (or is it the python bot) is leaking ACTION marks
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-27: [13:14:42] <asciilifeform> ACTION woke up from dream where we had 4th conf. this time, at mircea_popescu's house, which turned out to be a gigantic repurposed office park, wunderwaffen in every room, even the nazi 'Glocke' neutron generator; we sat in a great hall and drank mead and thanked odin for the gift of valour; then went to the tank room and each pulled gigantic sea
scriba: slugs, shaped like various animals, e.g., pig, out of a tank, and by the choice mircea_p
Framedragger: aha, i wonder if the sending irc client encoded msg in some strange charset, and ACTION was *not* technically the first set of characters in that message, from point of view of znc.
☟︎ Framedragger: <<1474982082.5600033 :asciilifeform!~asciilife@unaffiliated/asciilifeform PRIVMSG #trilema :^AACTION woke up from dream
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Usually JB weld in old or "Klear" flavors
Framedragger: asciilifeform: ...so, how's the rest of that dream, then? did you eat them slugs?
a111: Logged on 2016-09-27 22:32 pete_dushenski: man alive flights to ireland are priiiicey. more than oz even. /me will be waiting for a deal like a good jew.
Framedragger: next time i'm desperate for cash i'll make a markov bot which will include those keywords, and will spam research funding agencies.
mircea_popescu: ahahaah, getting spam from smaswanganyi@justice.gov.za. actually, not spoofed.
Framedragger: on my work email end on the other hand, multiple emails as of late, sent from director, with instructions to pay to this fiat bank acct and that fiat bank acct.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-28: [03:06:04] <ben_vulpes> me, sure, give me 500mm and 2 years. instructables though? great hopes for instructables? and wikipedia, right?
Framedragger: like, legit uk and polish bank account details. wonder if they belong to old granny who gives out passwords to her grandson
mircea_popescu: Framedragger well look in at headers and delivery path
Framedragger: didn't even have time to investigate, honestly not sure if worth it, reported bank details to banks in question as per process, but that's about it
mircea_popescu: Framedragger the way that works is, you can open business online ; and then bank account from it.
mircea_popescu: anyone willing to spend 1mn can have ~10k us registered businesses by friday sort of thing.
☟︎ Framedragger: well in uk you have to walk into the bank physically. (from recent experience opening business acct). and it's barclays, quite sure it's similar to the bank i dealt with. but heh, maybe workarounds. especially in .pl
☟︎ Framedragger: i tried to do just that while being away from uk!
mircea_popescu: note that what people tell each other and what is actually the case never have yet matched in the history of people.
Framedragger: but maybe didn't try hard enough, because, you know, i could just walk in later
mircea_popescu: plus there's also the legions of captcha solvers / employees working remote etc. but i doubt anyone spends that much effort.
Framedragger: this relates to the "not a bank if no rsa in relevant wot" point.
mircea_popescu: one obvious explanation would be that the accts in question belong to a derp who has agreed to "handle comissions for international firm"
mircea_popescu: which i think is supported by >1 bn pieces of yearly mail.
mircea_popescu: recall the good old days when people wanted to get money from the cattle ? things have changed, the cattle is now poor enough that people want its moo not its money.
Framedragger: heheh. oh yeah. i also forgot about them craigslist job posts, as well $x's friend's boyfriend who asked $x to temporarily hold some money in $x's acct because reasons
mircea_popescu: this is an important societal change that of course "nobody could have predicted" and nobody noticed. because that's what "modern democracy" governments are for, to stick hand in sand.
mircea_popescu: cattle couldn't have done that independently well enough. needed collective ostrich built.
mircea_popescu: it's like boys in clubs, all they really wanna do is rub on you a little. if that.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-28 14:40 mircea_popescu: anyone willing to spend 1mn can have ~10k us registered businesses by friday sort of thing.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-28 14:41 Framedragger: well in uk you have to walk into the bank physically. (from recent experience opening business acct). and it's barclays, quite sure it's similar to the bank i dealt with. but heh, maybe workarounds. especially in .pl
mircea_popescu: i know for a fact i registered corp/bank acct/paypal etc while in costa rica.
mircea_popescu: there's five billions things. open acct with hk branch, have it transferred. whoops.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the notion that this calender would be watertight is laughable on the face.
mircea_popescu: yes it's a calender, ie keeps the pasta in. but if you dump it in the sewer, don't expect you'll fish it out later and contents edible.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: US banks pretty much require id for nearly every single transaction you intend to make with them...
thestringpuller: cash deposit into another person's account? "Papers and passport please"
Framedragger: thestringpuller: heh; up until maybe ~2012, UK banks allowed these cash deposits without any account or docs; so folks deposited cash into bitcoin exchange accounts; and then that changed. so it goes hm
mircea_popescu: Framedragger it is possible i'm left stranded on some historical branch. i've been doing ever less banking over the years.
mircea_popescu: back before bitcoin fucking banks were like, a major core ; these days, they barely count on the level of gardening.
thestringpuller: or you stop so you don't fucking die, like when no light exist i.e. lightning storm
mircea_popescu: dubious, because the "basic necessities" a la mchappy meal never needs to cost anything, which is why it's two dollars ; and actual food is already going into a spiral.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: back in 2005 i ate on the boston wharf ; bill came in a hundreds. today they come in the thousands.
mircea_popescu: yes, but anything that isn't luxury is, today unlike the days of the su, ersatz.
mircea_popescu: they still built housing out of concrete not chewed wasp nest.
mircea_popescu: army does not generally favour ersatz, but bulk ; and unlike us, the su was army-run. much like ~much all eastern tyrannies, from turks to what have you.
mircea_popescu: whereas the us is a french colony through and through.
mircea_popescu: ersatz is those people's very life ; their existence is subjectively predicated on them being ersatz for actual people
mircea_popescu: through the technomagic of "noblesse du robe" or whatever.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 19:54 asciilifeform: where my father worked they had always 3 bins.
trinque: it's like living on a cheap TV set. my neighbor's door - when kicked in two weeks ago - broke like balsa wood right along the only (soft) metal in the door, at the "lock"/"latch"
trinque: this with rents at 1600/mo for the smallest
trinque: the cop was in a nervous sweat when he came to my door asking if I knew anything
deedbot: Mariono voiced for 30 minutes.
Mariono: i saw a thread on bitcointalk
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly enough, it could be rendered in terms of the mp-alf discussion ; on the alf side. it ~says "tyvm for telling us to be less poor ; here in africa no dirigible."
mircea_popescu: Mariono prolly want to talk to shinohai if you need help ; otherwise register your key with deedbot
mircea_popescu: so it is. then again, it has to be pointed out that all these "studies" are derivative work of literary criticism and phenomenology as the philosophical discipline (80s variant, see eg stanford's "it is the study of structures of conscxiousness"). consequently they consist almost entirely out of terms of art.
mircea_popescu: computer science, for instance, also almost entirely consists of terms of art.
mircea_popescu: arguably about as tenuous a basis in reality (what is "a processor" ? really ?)
deedbot: 738D28589D2CB44F02B44E0E43D55C24AA0E9947 registered as Mariono.
mircea_popescu: i can distinguish it. most recently proven for example when i flew off handle over something someone linked with triangles and squares.
mircea_popescu: the person versed in the art can always distinguish art from rubbish. the problem is what versed means.
shinohai: trinque: thank you for that btw, makes my job so much damned easier
mircea_popescu: and we get to a) cut one enemy out of process ; b) build one friend into process.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, typical. suppose you have to go to dinner with the typical female and then with her to the typical poetry reading.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: hm. on actually closer inspection, that thing's easier to parse if one reads till end of extract. one of the points is that the notion of female genital mutilation is used to represent african tribes etc. as inferior culturally, sexually, etc.; thesis seems to disagree with this portrayal of that tribal culture. this does indeed not sound original. but, i guess you're right, it's more like meh, and not a lol-worthy outrag
mircea_popescu: note also that what "things are used to represent" is very rarely a valid concern.
Framedragger: i guess that twitter acct thought it was funny that FGM could be anything other than bullshit. at the point of lol'ing at those tweets i took this as a given
mircea_popescu: ie, if you people are going to herd rather than critically analyze, it might as well be that YOU are the reason the account has to be banned.
Framedragger: but this reminded me of clastres' "society against the state", a set of essays on "primitiv kultures". the latter use all kinds of mutilation'y things to do interesting stuff, e.g. if one breaks a law, that law is inscribed on the flesh of the person having broken it; etc.
mircea_popescu: anyway. "the pleasure of whiteness" in particular denotes this peculiar view of human existence, which is very deeply puritan (which they usually call white or white-patriarchy, neither of which have anything to do). ie, typical middle class us female enjoys being in herself, which is why she loves nothing more than to grow fat while watching netflix.
Framedragger: and in general builds an argument against the notion of "primitive" as widely used in western anthropology.
mircea_popescu: this is not true of most sane people, including all africa. girls there wanna be with other girls and sing call-and-response all day long.
mircea_popescu: you can see this in a million places. normal human being eschews reading an announcement, in favour of asking person at the desk personally ; usian "pleasure of white" zealot eschews interacting with this "because there's nowhere to read what to do and have to talk to people"
mircea_popescu: these are very deeply disjunct modes. i'm sure [they like to think] telling us teenager that "honey, never mind what the other girls say, you should have self esteem" works for her. from experience it ~works, for a little anywya. but doth not work for subsaharan chick. at all.
Mariono: all anyone use windows to play the game ?
Mariono: what is the minimum specs for me to able play the game ?
mircea_popescu: well, if you don't use windows, there's ~no minimum specs, i've had it run on ten year old laptops. if you do use windows it's unclear as of yet, some people have had problems but seems to be on random hardware
mircea_popescu: but in principle you must have a gfx card, and 256mb of ram.
mircea_popescu: the problem with the political notion of "primitive" is that well, it's the "global warming" from before global warming. there ~is~ a scientific notion of primitive, but it's deeply political inconvenient (such as, primitive society uses hieroglyphics rather than alphabet. making the chinese primitive.) wheres the politically convenient version ("guys in next town over are primitive, because our footbal mascot is a beaver and
mircea_popescu: theirs an iguana, and iguana is reptile not mammal") is always "global warm"ism / "intelligent design"ism
mircea_popescu: the whole internet has shrunk to the size of walnut. in english i mean.
deedbot: haankoammu voiced for 30 minutes.
deedbot: 7CF316AACB136D0BA231A2484AF684686CAB5D45 registered as haankoammu.
trinque also linked in deedbot docs
trinque: !!help << first item links to wotpaste
Framedragger: AHA! and so, eulora becomes the explicit marketing platform for TERRORISM
mircea_popescu: "oui, comme Ãa? or too cute." apparently turns into ВХРЮК
ben_vulpes: help i'm trapped in character encoding hell
ben_vulpes: like fuck i'm going to give a shit about mis-encodings somewhere between os x, tmux, this retarded terminnal application, and linux locales
ben_vulpes: one of the wotpaste header stars is now a link
mircea_popescu wonders how long before frisco fills up with "planned businesshood" offices.
ben_vulpes: relatedly, why hasn't that org shattered its brand yet?
ben_vulpes: 50+ different institutions would be nigh-impossible for the right to organize a defunding of
ben_vulpes: plus think about the costs of rebranding all of the attack ads
mircea_popescu: i dun think anyone seriously intends to stop giving young women free pills.
ben_vulpes: some folks get seriously bent about the abortions tho
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform pets say "they sure did back when i was there"
mircea_popescu: and doctor visit is a fine idea. a) gets her used to stranger hands up her snatch ; b) pills do have side effects.
BingoBoingo: AHA, yes. Only one available without exam is "Plan B"
mircea_popescu: the notion that females under 30 would be allowed to NOT be vaginally inspected once a month is scandalous.
BingoBoingo: But yes, doctor is mandatory because provides target for torts!
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the above being perhaps the best explanation of what distinguishes third world from civilised world. "are your women regularly diddled or do they grow fucking cobwebs down there."
mircea_popescu: "shaved smooth snatch that saw water today" being reliably what you find between female "students'" legs ~= "civilised world".
shinohai: In U.S. and A. they treat horses like we in Kazakhstan treat our women. They feed them two times a day. They have them sleep on straw in a small box. And for entertainment, they make them jump over fences while being whipped.
shinohai: wrong buffer my apologies asciilifeform
diana_coman: fwiw pete_dushenski I flew with Ryanair and I would advise against them unless you are either a. desperate b. really curious of how a plane can feel like the old-times local bus for local peasants, chicken and other animals combined; they have the most obnoxious "service" I ever saw filled with loud and frequent "offers" to buy all sorts and *advertisement* in the cabin; not to mention interesting fees such as "fuel fee" (I wou
diana_coman: ldn't be surprised if they added meanwhile some "Oxygen fee")
pete_dushenski: diana_coman: aha. i've heard similar horror stories and given that it'll be a family trip and that i'm NOTPOOR(tm)(r), i'll probably be looking at deals to the mainland and ~cost-effective~ proposals to the isles. the customer "service" and baggage issues that have been relayed to me previously were similarly cautionary.
diana_coman: oh, I did not mention the backseats that do not recline and the very, VERY limited leg-space
a111: Logged on 2016-09-28 15:08 mircea_popescu: dubious, because the "basic necessities" a la mchappy meal never needs to cost anything, which is why it's two dollars ; and actual food is already going into a spiral.
diana_coman: since Lithuania managed to end up in the interesting position of having 2 (at least, I did not even check if it doesn't have more than that) airports and no airline, Ryanair were the only ones to fly directly there
diana_coman: still, after one trip with them I prefer by far to fly into Riga and take the bus or car to Vilnius from there
diana_coman: aha, yeah, that's the smaller airport, quite all right for what it's used actually
pete_dushenski: like most second-biggest cities, kaunus also doesn't feel overly polished, uberglitzed, and overrun with tour busses the way vilnius or riga do
diana_coman: heh, pete_dushenski have you been to some of the smaller/more provincial ones? Panevezys comes to mind, lol
pete_dushenski: iirc i drove through pranvezys on the road back from vilnius to riga but didn't really stop. spent a bit more time in klaipeda and area
diana_coman: vilnius got a total makeup when it was eu cultural capital thing (and yes, several locals complained to me that it's worse for all that polish) but the uberglitzed area to my mind is just the very-very small bang-centre: cathedral and that molehill they call the castle
diana_coman: well, there is ~nothing to see in Panevezys, that's the point: kind of industrial, provincial town, poor and stinky all around
diana_coman: for the more touristical thing I'd say probably Trakai
pete_dushenski: diana_coman: it's true that the over-polished vilnius area is scarcely larger than a football pitch, but it's still a chunk of real estate devoid of the character of the rest of the country. eu-ification for all! rationalism uber alles! it's a shame, yes, but mostly for the inconsistently - the partial transplant - like the handsome black man with a single emaciated white arm surgically attached where his
diana_coman: hmmm, I think you are reading into it from a predefined perspective really
diana_coman: out of desperation to have the "lithuanian" thing
diana_coman: iirc took out the red pavement on the red street because ahem, RED
diana_coman: but you know, they are in the end in quite a pickle because "lithuanian" would be what, Grand Duchy of Lithuania, right?
pete_dushenski: lol! and yet this doesn't strike you as surgical mengelism ?
diana_coman: it doesn't strike me as specifically eu per se
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: aha. glanced at it. some people know how to hold a grudge, what can i say.
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: diana_coman: what's specifically 'eu' about the baltic, yugoslavian, romanian, what have you arrangements is that the fancy town squares and rebuilt castles were the bait and switch in exchange for monetary hegemony. there are exceedingly few examples of such peaceful expansion of territory in my historical memory banks (though i'm open to being disabused of this notion)
diana_coman: well, at the end of the day that IS the local character; previously it was the all-the-same blocky/stocky/commie townhalls, what; previous to that it was the catholic cathedrals etc; really what you deem "local character" vs "uberglitz, eu-ification" is just a matter of personal preference I'd say; I was suggesting you visit Panevezys precisely because that IS more of the "local" character than the well-groomed Kaunas at the en
diana_coman: fwiw Vilnius' really "old" area is slightly behind the so-called "old town" and perhaps the more "artsy" area along the river
pete_dushenski: diana_coman: my take on the eu-ification and commie blockiness is the same and quite disjunct from the catholic era : it's that the latter day ("tomorrow is a latter day", anyone?) implementations are superficial and have no particular bearing in the locality. in the same way that having modern art and architecture looks identical worldwide is nauseating, so too is the token clean street in whatever
pete_dushenski: eu-expansion capital. it's all to evident that, like the romans in palestine or usd as world reserve or facebook as #1sm, it's a temporary occupation.
pete_dushenski: "According to a news release from the public safety office, freshman Tristan Rettke was charged with civil rights intimidation." << not charged with mocking the gorilla-gendered students ? weird. i guess there's a lot of ways to cut the phony pie.
shinohai: Some speech is more protected than others.
shinohai: I insist they are not nooses, but merely handy lanyards to assist with transport.
shinohai: Exactly! He was probably just concerned about everyone's potassium intake, it's still kinda hot during the day here in the South.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: also, i'd humbly suggest ch add at least one layer of embedded replies. also, one excellent habit that i picked up from mp was to answer any and all comments on the blog. it's a two-way street this internet thing and responding with something as simple as a "cheers" is encouraging for readers.
pete_dushenski: given that the us pretty much only has soft power left, encouragement is one of its few remaining weapons.
ben_vulpes: i don't know what you mean by embedded replies
ben_vulpes: well feedback received. i'm not particularly in the mood to dive into the php any time soon.
ben_vulpes: grunting on wwwtronix is bad for the soul.
shinohai: What kind of neighborhood do you live in mircea_popescu ?
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: i would also like to shoot the inane smileys in the head, but there are only so many hours in the day and i only have two hands.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: i know i'm using heathen-wp but is there not a checkbox in the settings in wp-mp for emoticon switch-off (if that's the smileys you mean) and comment indentation ?
ben_vulpes: comments should also approve if you've commented before, but...
pete_dushenski: my guess is different ip addys caused the hold-up last time
ben_vulpes: checkbox schmeckbox, nesting doesn't appear to be working
pete_dushenski: o.O maybe mircea_popescu has pixie dust he can share then
ben_vulpes: possibly the template doesn't support it?
phf: i don't think classic supports nesting (default does though)
ben_vulpes: let me tell you how much i want to port comment threading between wordpress themes
phf: ben_vulpes: i was using intellij idea to hack on it, and i have to say, it's not that bad.
ben_vulpes now watching midair refueling mishaps on the "joint forces channel"
ben_vulpes: "here let us show you how many times we can fuck this up"
phf: my recommended for you is "Angelina Jolie Admits To Illuminati Sacrifice In Leaked ..."
ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, refactoring spreadsheets suxx
phf: should've kept some employees to do it for you
mircea_popescu: i generally park the girls on a circle a few miles around the local university campus.
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shinohai: rhetorical question poking fun at hilarious signage xD
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mircea_popescu: shinohai ah, that was in the province. some small town north of ba
shinohai: I dunno why I find that so delightfully hilarious ....
shinohai: Future home of an Argentine abortion clinic.
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