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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and other interested parties : http://trilema.com/2017/resplenduminous/ ☟︎
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/resplenduminous/ << Trilema - Resplenduminous
trinque: ^ migration in progress.
mircea_popescu: trinque you know a three hour knockout in order to check the fuse box is somewhat suspicious in a dc.
trinque: I don't expect that I'm moving back
trinque: new digs are in singapore; lets see how that goes
trinque: old DC said they were fixing their battery backups; who knows what's actually happening
trinque: I operate under the assumption that I'm going to lose every box that isn't in my house, and probably also those
trinque: got great deploy scripts for these things, don't need anything but an ssh hole to fire them at ☟︎
asciilifeform: neato trinque
asciilifeform: and yes, sudden plague of rotten disks, dubious fuses, etc
asciilifeform: 'we gotta change the fire extinguisher, box will be out for 3h'
asciilifeform: '...waxing floor, 5h'
asciilifeform: is next.
asciilifeform just finished eating http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-27#1717718 -- mighty lulzy ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-27 01:59 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and other interested parties : http://trilema.com/2017/resplenduminous/
mircea_popescu: any good, whatcha think
asciilifeform: i like the twist end.
mircea_popescu: seems to me a matter of strict necessity, in context.
mircea_popescu: anyway, that aside, by comparing my description to his you can readily see a summary of all the inept idiocy that bothered me in the original.
mircea_popescu: wtf ruin a perfectly good premise with muddy, shoddy implementation.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-27#1717726 << this reminded me of an ancient crackpotteriferous idea of mine: diskless, welded-shut box that boots into minimal sshiferous thing, privkey in boobytrapped sram etc. you fill it up remotely with os etc. and thereafter if power cut. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-27 02:42 trinque: got great deploy scripts for these things, don't need anything but an ssh hole to fire them at
mircea_popescu: seems to be slowly going there.
asciilifeform: anyone molests box, or magnetometer detects that it moved racks, etc, -- overwrites key with rngolade.
trinque: seems to be the only way to use these pieces of shit.
trinque: constant stream of new soldiers to go die.
asciilifeform: not esp. difficult to build.
mircea_popescu: !#s UCI
a111: 181 results for "UCI", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=UCI
mircea_popescu: want it or not want it, it's what you're getting in the end.
asciilifeform: sorta like, but with crypto
mircea_popescu: how was the original without crypto lol
asciilifeform: ( boxes you dun physically build and boobytrap, cannot have identity, because homomorphic voodoo is just that, it sums to nil )
trinque: alrighty, that works again.
asciilifeform: trinque: ever used 'midnight commander' and its 'fish' util ?
asciilifeform: it's a thingie that 'mounts' a wholly uncooperative, other than login, remote fs, using nothing more than perl on other end, via standard ssh ( not sftp )
asciilifeform: pumps binaries, and dir listings, transparently back an' forth via crafted shellbarf
trinque: pretty cool. the guy wrote over here does same with remote shell.
trinque: *guy I wrote
asciilifeform: might be interesting to make a rawblocks version of this
asciilifeform: takes a root shelled box, and formats hdd, emplaces, e.g., gentoo, blockwise.
asciilifeform: process prolly would have to begin by copying over a little c proggy, compiling, then insmod'ing it ( so to stop multitaskism and disk fandango on victim end )
asciilifeform: the k mod , now, will do the rest of the work.
trinque: hm. what about just mount -o remount,ro /
trinque: and then bzcat > /dev/sda
asciilifeform: what if box had swap ?
trinque: swapoff all the swaps too
asciilifeform: and /tmp ?
asciilifeform: you'd be surprised how many heathen linuxen this would crash
asciilifeform: they expect swap, and /tmp, and /var, and fuck knows what else
trinque: hm, totally possible, just enumerating the reasonable thing's I'd considered on the subj
asciilifeform: it has to be victimproof
asciilifeform: as in, it dun matter what WAS running.
asciilifeform: when trigger is pulled, the sole possible operation of th cpu becomes : listening to nic for a sequence of (signed...) blocks, to fill hdd with, from lba 0 to N.
asciilifeform: after that, reboots.
asciilifeform: this is 'birth'. 'death' of a box, is similar process, but in reverse gear, sends backup of block 0...N to operator, replacing each with null as it goes.
asciilifeform: ( yes, enemy can have made sneak copy. let'im make, sweat. )
asciilifeform: but no more leaving intact os+etc when leaving a hoster, by default. it is unhygienic. ☟︎
asciilifeform: makes sense ?
trinque: 100%
asciilifeform: the obvious variation on the theme, is to omit the disk
asciilifeform: jump into ring0, let nic fill ~ram~ as described above for disk, then jump into ~that~
asciilifeform: run 'virtually disked' until power loss.
asciilifeform: but i already described this, earlier.
asciilifeform: these are 2 basic ways to 'reincarnate' on remote box.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> anyone molests box, or magnetometer detects that it moved racks, etc, -- overwrites key with rngolade. << Overwrites key and misleading places that look like could also be key, gives cold analysers more places to miswank over potential "Is key?" "Is encrypted key?" "What does enzyme equation solver make of this when ported to DNA array"
BingoBoingo: Moore defeats Strange In Alabama Senate Primary: Stage Set For Great Again Congressional Coup In 2018
BingoBoingo: Bob Corker Announces Retirement At End 2018, More Old-GOP Senate Retirements Expected
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what was the soviet term for the "moment of realisation" that sovietism is actually a lie ? i forget ☟︎
trinque: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/akPqa/?raw=true << The IP address for deedbot.org and wot.deedbot.org shall be 45.32.123.240 from block 487154 until further notice. ☟︎
trinque: actual !!deed processing shall return tomorrow.
trinque: DCs that cause me server migrations before launch of a new product can get pissed on.
mircea_popescu: ikr?
trinque: this is why logbot was written such that services don't have to live anywhere near the server providing the IRC connection.
trinque: mircea_popescu: incompetence or malice, what the fuck is this 6am to 9am as a service window shit?
trinque: BingoBoingo: and hey, why don't you script a qntra deploy and blast it on a new VPS every other week?
trinque: isn't like the thing has a phuctor-sized database to haul around
trinque: rough approximation of the hypertext dht thing I'm going to conjure, really.
trinque hits the hay
mircea_popescu: nn.
trinque: ^ brb
mircea_popescu: no hay foir you. come back -- one year.
trinque: wb!
BingoBoingo: <trinque> BingoBoingo: and hey, why don't you script a qntra deploy and blast it on a new VPS every other week? << A few reasons: 1. I r idiot, 2. Database updating constantly which means need box and not VPS rapehole, 3. This points to Republican ISP needed or no nice things
BingoBoingo: !~later tell davout Still alive or did the neighbors eat you?
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !~later tell davout_ Still alive or did the neighbors eat you?
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 3958.7, vol: 9575.32164784 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 3960.8, vol: 20372.76450966 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 3814.3968, vol: 1267.52710000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 3958.4, vol: 4710.16859887 | Volume-weighted last average: 3954.76025382
davout: BingoBoingo: I r alive ☟︎
shinohai: Shit I find all the good stuff when qntra is no more http://archive.is/7ufZx
shinohai: RagnarDanneskjol: I know who you are, soul of Ragnar Lodbrok come back to haunt us on Woden's day. Well ye won't be conquering no earldoms here, no Sir!
shinohai: Teh terr0ristz go after the Defense Secretaryz! http://archive.is/lUVkF
jurov: sourceforge down for 2 days already, and noone notices anymore ☟︎
shinohai: noticed but no qntras
jurov: just my crazy idea: what about s.nsa buying it out, with all the data? ☟︎
asciilifeform: lol what for ?!
jurov: you searched for misc old code versions many times, no?
asciilifeform: if it dun exist in gentoo mirrors, it likely ain't of any use
asciilifeform: and the integrity of anything stored in shitforge is highly dubious
asciilifeform: jurov: recall when they were caught red handed infecting tarballs ?
asciilifeform: ( not even speaking of the winblowz exes )
shinohai: "We have the latest ROT13 reverse-encryption enabled on all accounts and have no idea how this could happen"
jurov: i had in mind old cvs/svn repos, not tarballs. i doubt they could competently infect these
shinohai: "Paul Horner, Famous Fake News Writer, Found Dead at Age 38"
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.is/k7sr8 >> '...106,000 foreigners suspected of being involved in terrorism and other crimes... The number of foreigners targeted under Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act rose from 94,000 in fiscal year 2015...'
asciilifeform: jurov: aaaaaaand it's back. grab whatever tars you like, no need to buy anything.
jurov: Not very up.
asciilifeform: oh hm dead again.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-27#1717787 << there was not a specific name for this afaik ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-27 05:36 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what was the soviet term for the "moment of realisation" that sovietism is actually a lie ? i forget
asciilifeform: ( maybe in ro ?? )
trinque: lol sbcl.org down
asciilifeform: not simply down
asciilifeform: RST's
asciilifeform: interestingtimes.
danielpbarron: achtung panzers, all orders (of mine) have been shipped
cruciform: danielpbarron: nice!
cruciform: can you add me to you WoT?
danielpbarron: it's possible
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/XkB9Q << in other lulz: deloitte, massive usg slave galley, pwned
asciilifeform: 'Emails to and from Deloitte’s 244,000 staff were stored in the Azure cloud service, which was provided by Microsoft. '
asciilifeform: oh hey hey hey lbj! crate #2 is here.
mats: found this gem http://www.reuters.com/article/us-sec-kraft-heinz/u-s-sec-accuses-heinz-guard-of-insider-trading-before-berkshire-3g-deal-idUSKBN16M2UI
ben_vulpes: campaign against knowing anything about how the world works will continue until the risk free rate is negative ☟︎
asciilifeform: in other lulz from same rag, https://www.rt.com/news/404638-russia-kalashnikov-flying-car
asciilifeform: ( oblig old thread : http://btcbase.org/log/2015-03-31#1080346 ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2015-03-31 02:54 asciilifeform: 100 - a man
asciilifeform: well not same rag, lol, but opposite sign bit rag.
asciilifeform: 'In a complaint filed in Manhattan federal court, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission said Todd David Alpert made $43,873 of illegal profit after learning of the proposed Heinz takeover while working as a dispatcher for the director, who sat on Heinz’s board for several years.' << lol!!
asciilifeform: though quite the unsurprise, only goldmansachs et al can make legal profit in usaschwitz
ben_vulpes: shabby take, at that.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: prolly limited by d00d's spending cash
asciilifeform: ( and credit limits )
asciilifeform: if he really was a doorman.
asciilifeform: ( though it seems like a dire violation of http://btcbase.org/log/2015-06-10#1158785 principle. i've nfi ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2015-06-10 03:40 asciilifeform: 'watchman may not know what is behind the door he is guarding; if he knew - would steal it himself' (tm) (r) (sov army)
ben_vulpes: perhaps 50k is the most one can hope to make on a short term 100% leveraged play in the states; i've no idea what his relationship with the brokerage was like but he *had* to have had a margin account, it would be an offense to the oldladyempire if someone didn't
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: what i meant is, he likely had, say, 5k, to turn into 50; if had 10 - would turn to 100 etc
asciilifeform: and presumably whole affair didn't last long enough to connect the hose and form arsemouthsystem
ben_vulpes: myeah, i hear ya
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-27#1717776 << not that hard to nuke a box, all of them do reinstalls and shit ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-27 03:18 asciilifeform: but no more leaving intact os+etc when leaving a hoster, by default. it is unhygienic.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: idea was, to automate, make it wholly mechanical part of moving shitbox providers on arbitrarily short notice (i.e. 0 notice to the one who's being ditched until ~after~ you've moved the contents)
mircea_popescu: if only anyone in the fiat world were this acute.\
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-27#1717809 << o.O whatever happened to you! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-27 11:48 davout: BingoBoingo: I r alive
asciilifeform: ( the other half of $idea, was that shitbox oughta be convertible to 'godly' os+env, mechanically, kvmlessly, (again with 0 notice to human on isp end), and without retaining 1 single byte of what was on the box when they gave you login )
asciilifeform pictures davout as having the same job as the bear in old american cartoon 'tail spin', and so he dun have net access often from the old flyin'boat
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-27#1717813 << i doubt anyone'd notice if facebook was down for two weeks, either. at this point, 100% of the fiat "traffic" is simply bots. they will happily http://trilema.com/2015/facebook-sends-traffic11eleven/ until the end of times. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-27 13:59 jurov: sourceforge down for 2 days already, and noone notices anymore
mircea_popescu: there is in fact no one to notice.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw, for your romanian studies, i propose http://trilema.com/2010/oda-la-moartea-unei-pisici-preaiubite-inecata-intr-o-covata-de-carasi/
mircea_popescu: i suspect you know the original.
asciilifeform: oh neato
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-27#1717815 << why, so they can use the money to continue trying to prop usg in some fashion ? fuck them. should have long ago came to kneel and submit here. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-27 13:59 jurov: just my crazy idea: what about s.nsa buying it out, with all the data?
asciilifeform: eh i'd give fiddybux for it. of lunch money. just so that the next day ALL the winblows exes will format c:
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-27#1717844 << you misunderstand ; the way sec works in these "insider trading" cases is very much EXACTLY alf's "peasant with rembrands go to jail". the man's crime is that he made money. simply and purely that, it is ASSUMED that he couldn't have known, on the strength of being a nobody. that's it. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-27 19:52 ben_vulpes: campaign against knowing anything about how the world works will continue until the risk free rate is negative
mircea_popescu: the "subtle" view being that this discourages gambling which is a societal good.
asciilifeform: from lizard pov, he took what belongs to hitler, plain an' simple
mircea_popescu: but much like all property is presumed of the crown, with random sefs such as yourself merely in tenous tenancy (known as precaria, historically), which is why you can have things such as "cases in rem", because the court admits no ownership vested IN PERSONS
mircea_popescu: just so all knowledge is also presumed in the crown, and you knowing something "you shouldn't have" simply means you spied. what else could it mean ?
mircea_popescu: "your honor, i'm smarter than the inca, natch" ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: everywhere in the world, this thing of yours, is yours, and the court may inquire after it. in the us, like in all slave empires, this thing of the court, you, MAYBE, may beg for.
asciilifeform: the rembrandt case took place, ftr, in ro
asciilifeform: ( granted, nato ro )
mircea_popescu: well, europe. i dun recall, uk, ro, etc.
asciilifeform: and where exactly does peasant own ? i'd like to buy a plane ticket...
mircea_popescu: was stolen from netherlands and taken to london was it ? something like that.
asciilifeform: afaik nowhere does peasant own more than fits in his arse.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform afghanistan, for one.
asciilifeform: antarctica, for two...
mircea_popescu: and that's just the letter A!
asciilifeform: 1 possibly interesting observation is that if the d00d had a btctronic means of capitalizing on his 'insiderism', he might still walk the big zone, unmolested
mircea_popescu: except nobody + crypto = terrorism neh
asciilifeform: instead he took in a wad of electro-fiatola, which is instant alarm bell at nsa ( whole directorate, as described in 2013 leakz )
mircea_popescu: where was that northafrica piece about "refused to give passwords, interferes with crown" ?
asciilifeform: some time this wk
asciilifeform: but regular thing.
mircea_popescu: so notrly. only thing left for him is to joestack before they ^
asciilifeform: the heuristic is pretty simple -- d00d lives in plebelands, in cardboard house, works cardboard job, etc. and suddenly his bank balance grows a coupla decimal places ? bell rings.
mircea_popescu: and yes "that's not what i wanted to hear", but the fucking problem with going "lalalaican'thearyou" for 50 years is that when you finally quit it and listen it'll sound exactly like "too late, mr shcmucktard"
asciilifeform: unless, i suppose, you are hruschev, and your travel is always by means of own battleship, it is flatly stupid to keep seekritz in places nosy idjits in foreign ports can easily get to, e.g. civilian baggage
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure hruschev had his passport stamped when entering us, like any other schmuck.
mircea_popescu: tis the ourdemocracy fantasy.
ben_vulpes: a+ landlords: http://archive.is/gyQpm
asciilifeform: ~all american houses burn like matchsticks, why is that particular one famous
asciilifeform: ( who recalls the thread in - iirc - '14, where mircea_popescu described how a chum of his came to usa, and tried to build a nonburning house, and Had Problems, went home in the end )
mircea_popescu: aha.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-bitter-lot/ << Trilema - The bitter lot
mircea_popescu thanks asciilifeform, the premise turned out to be extremely fertile!
asciilifeform read it earlier, while deedbot slept
asciilifeform like many folx, has own ad-hoc cat-and-rat-system
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform pictures davout as having the same job as the bear in old american cartoon 'tail spin', and so he dun have net access often from the old flyin'boat << AHA, you do remember Disney other than jaundiced pooh
BingoBoingo: davout: I'm wondering if an progress was made finding Francophone datacenters outside France, preferaby in the heart of the dark continent ☟︎
mircea_popescu encourages the editor in chief.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it was actually translated some time around 1990
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: dark continent << didn't we have a d00d in za at some point..?
BingoBoingo: editor in chief is lead fishing
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It was the fluffypony monero guy, he's introduced in a Trilema. 2013-ish if I remember
asciilifeform: then we definitely, afaik, have nobody in za
asciilifeform: d00d went full bore idjit loong ago.
mircea_popescu: is "za" zaire ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: za is south africa
BingoBoingo: Petrus land
asciilifeform: duffer'sdrift land
mircea_popescu: this makes sense.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I did not specify south africa. If I recall davout was off the gold coast
asciilifeform: incidentally did BingoBoingo ever read 'duffer's drift' ?
BingoBoingo: http://trilema.com/2013/why-finance-shouldnt-be-open-to-your-average-schmoe/ << There it is
mircea_popescu: why the fuck do we want what's left after rhodesia's rape for any purpose ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Has not yet seen
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo there's also http://trilema.com/2014/fuck-me-fuck-you/
asciilifeform: i dunno that it belongs on the we-want list
asciilifeform: but it meets some of the technical litmuses.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: AHA
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform such as what, black chix coding ?
asciilifeform: nah that's in the other africa
BingoBoingo: Well, survey of not NATO means surveying... Not NATO
mircea_popescu: their fucking motto is "unity in diversity" ffs.
asciilifeform: also i have nfi whether the item that remained after the rape, is still squirming or not.
asciilifeform: theoretically some part of it -- may be
asciilifeform: ~somebody~ is buying those flamethrowers.
mircea_popescu: technically australia is also "not in nato" or whatever the fuck.\
mircea_popescu: scarcely any difference.
asciilifeform: 5eyes ~= nato
mircea_popescu: which is my fucking point here. south africa is not off the list of shitholes just because it's where white cucks go to have their wives strechtertained
BingoBoingo: Chad, Cote de Ivory, Somalia, Liberia, Nigeria
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu says za is an unterraformable pesthole, then it is.
asciilifeform has deeply nfi
BingoBoingo: Perhaps boki haram has datacenters?
mircea_popescu: if they can keep 'em up.
mircea_popescu: apparently stretchtertained is not a word, as far as the alphabet ai knows. but evidently http://trilema.com/2016/welcome-to-baluba-island/
BingoBoingo: Hey, if Microsoft can do servers in tents
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo it's easier for them, they don't have to actually work.
BingoBoingo: le sigh, there goes dream of coffee shop next to datacenter being staffed by black people in white suits all county club style
mircea_popescu: why, you can have that in egypt.
BingoBoingo: Egypt is too practically NATO, the Israelis are right there
BingoBoingo: In today's WAPO wank of the day: "There is no single, definitive answer to how Roy Moore, American politics’ closest approximation of a theocrat who’s twice been removed from the state Supreme Court for disobeying orders, was able to beat the twin political machines of the White House and the Senate leadership in his comfortable defeat of Sen. Luther Strange."
BingoBoingo: How does a Justice of a Supreme Court recieve "orders"?