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pete_dushenski: in other news, usg doesn't want to call michigan for trump or what ? final tally will be 306-228.
jurov: pete_dushenski: i have soi-dissant master degree in cs, but actually learned everything important outside of school by tinkering and reading
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-10#1565790 << word 'cs' threw me off. subj of thread was, apparently: plumbing. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-10 23:56 pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-21#1546426 << for your entomological pleasure, this is an example of an elementary cs discussion that intrigues me and i ~want~ to understand yet requires afaics zero math. the logs abound with other examples of 'this language does this but not that and is therefore better suited for the other thing' that i (perhaps naively) deem valuable despite not having a ready application
pete_dushenski: jurov: ya not saying formal education is the be all and end all, far from it (hell, i'm even reluctant to register 'resp' for chiltin), just that, if done well, it can provide a framework for further learning. otherwise its markov chains with no grounding.
trinque: lel
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: aha. might've guessed as much.
trinque: more advisable would be to pick a thing to build, and then beat yourself against this problem until either breaks
asciilifeform: plumbing is not difficult in the intellectual sense. but is question of how much shit you can stand to be soaked in.
trinque: ^
jurov: pete_dushenski: i have my doubts about that framework
trinque: ftr I am a college dropout, and it turns out books from the 80s can still be had.
trinque: and further back, even!
mircea_popescu: what did you drop out of ?
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: hm. can't say that my monastic existence necessarily welcomes shit soaking, but... higher (republican) callings must prevail!
trinque: mircea_popescu: CS/EE full scholarship
mircea_popescu: heh.
pete_dushenski: jurov: how so ?
jurov: pete_dushenski: hardest subject revolved around reimplementing unix innards
jurov: (aside from math)
pete_dushenski: http://archive.is/xjsRl << delicious 'carbon' squirming.
asciilifeform: jurov: same at my uni.
jurov: no lisp. no datastructures. no assigned reading of knuth and such giants
pete_dushenski: jurov: ok. then what did you learn after that was a better framework ?
trinque: jurov: I would've stayed in the school that taught those.
pete_dushenski has knuth on shelf. for when.
trinque: pete_dushenski: peculiarities of python string handling are really only interesting entomologically
jurov: heh, don't know what to answer. still learning
mircea_popescu: trinque but the fundamental problems with the concept of "string" aren't.
mircea_popescu: hence why it's a matter of washing not of getting implants.
jurov: strings are fine, but the characters. noone knows what character is.
mircea_popescu: the inuitive approach (oh ~obviously~ i know what a string is, just like when anne sexton writes in her spiral notebook amirite ?) utterly fails ; and even in the hands of very subtle thinkers it can explode loudly - witness the many day disagreement with alf over the matter of utf/ansi, which unearthed disputes all the way to the greek ikonoclasm and the fundaments of literacy/alphabet. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: jurov iknowright! "the economy is fine, we just don't know how any of the parts work. also we understand the brain and we sequenced the genome. btw the global warming"
jurov: what in hindsight bewilders me most, nothing from quality applied computer science from space research found its way fo curriculum. we were basically learning from beancounters and pdp hackers.
jurov: some examples: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Systems_Language https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRAKON
mircea_popescu: certainly might explain why code bloat is so commonly the result of college-educated engineer employment.
jurov: btw, coinbr parts are in drakon
mircea_popescu has never seen used.
mircea_popescu: oh the flowchart thing. i suspected it's what phf made the v charts with :p
ben_vulpes: g-graphviz?
jurov: heh no. you draw and fill in the flowchart and it generates code in usual language
ben_vulpes: (re: phf's thing)
ben_vulpes: yeah, drakon looks nifty.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i'm just messin'.
ben_vulpes: ah
ben_vulpes: suspected, hence the hesitant forth putting
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2016/11/10/socially-responsible-investing-or-how-i-told-you-so-doesnt-pay-the-bills/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - “Socially Responsible Investing”, or how I told you so doesn’t pay the bills.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> it's vaguely regrettable no one with an old dogde pick-up ran. then he could have driven it all the way over to the wh and park it on the lawn. << Naturally because I'd be replaceing the lawn with better grass. Make Grass Green Again!
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> plumbing is not difficult in the intellectual sense. but is question of how much shit you can stand to be soaked in. << Also how to sweat connections without burning the shit out of surroundings
pete_dushenski appreciates all the framework building, as ever, and is off to the mountains for the long weekend. cheers.
mod6: c-ya
asciilifeform: holy FUCK jurov programs in weird sovlang !?
asciilifeform: does he also use refal ?????
asciilifeform: (refal is what happened when su academics went 'they lisp? us too! but CATCH UP AND OUTRUN AMERIKKA'
asciilifeform: )
asciilifeform: but to go upstack --- i see, e.g., this, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/Quicksort_DRAKON.png , and have nfi how the thing wins.
asciilifeform: even 'labview', cosmetically similar, i can see how wins, it shortens 'ooda loop' to ~0 because the circuits can be tested in 'real time' with wysywyg blinkenlights. but this -- i've nfi.
BingoBoingo: Seems obvious. Liberal america hasn't ruined it.
asciilifeform: ( http://www.loper-os.org/?p=202 << ooda loop )
mircea_popescu: i didn't make it that far, shipwrecked over the eat hamburger thing
mircea_popescu: (laugh at me if you will at my homely simplicity, but to me that example is sufficient proof that the language is not practically useful. if even for the purpose of didactic example it requires the chicken-in-vacuum notion of an eating cycle which is based on hamburger quanta...)
asciilifeform: btw in food shop bunch of 'dudebros' discussing tritler , were excellent comedy, went on and on, shaking hipsterbeards, re how 'it won't be so bad, he will still have to WORK WITH POLICY MAKERS TO MAKE POLICY ... [snipped buncha washingtonian rubbish] ... and CANNOT CANCEL INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS!' etc.
mircea_popescu: lol. he's canceling paris, it's a done deal.
asciilifeform: it is very difficult to convey how these people talk
asciilifeform: very particular manner of speech
mircea_popescu: (at least, everyone, literally, thinks he will, so the other participants won't partiicpate, so paris is dead.
ben_vulpes: and the tpp too i hope!
mircea_popescu: kerry is set for some pretty epic kerry-isms over in marakesh
ben_vulpes: BURN EVERYTHING DOWN
asciilifeform: 'drakon' is best illustration i've seen yet for mircea_popescu's 'graphics are for tards' thing
asciilifeform: the flow charts add 0 to the expressivity ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (guy's a primo idiot, should be the poster child of the whole "bureaucracy lost touch" thing. "here's a slapstick with a lot of facial reconstructive surgery")
asciilifeform: the way a dctard pronounces word 'policy' is something that must be experienced with own ears.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes ironically, that is not up to him. china decides there ; anyone who wants to keep their credit line will conform, and that includes the us.
asciilifeform: it is spoken in such a way that implies that if 'policymakers' made 'policy' to this effect, electrons would cease to spin in their orbits
asciilifeform: sun -- to rise, etc.
mircea_popescu: china ~is~ extremely soft however, so they may permit.
asciilifeform: the wetness of water, surely, subject also to POLICYMAKERS
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah they're pretty cute.
ben_vulpes: "what is your policy policy?"
mircea_popescu: does my latest header suck btw ?
asciilifeform: it is great. gigantic gilded arse.
mircea_popescu: lol k.
asciilifeform: with massive gilded arseplug
mircea_popescu: girl to the left is topless but sadly can't get it all in
ben_vulpes: hm, this calls for a header contextual
mircea_popescu: lol
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-11#1565826 << almost any quasi-serious learning is about throwing nonsense out of one's head re 'i KNOW HOW IT WORX', whether 'i know how digestion works', 'money', 'arithmetic' ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-11 00:20 mircea_popescu: the inuitive approach (oh ~obviously~ i know what a string is, just like when anne sexton writes in her spiral notebook amirite ?) utterly fails ; and even in the hands of very subtle thinkers it can explode loudly - witness the many day disagreement with alf over the matter of utf/ansi, which unearthed disputes all the way to the greek ikonoclasm and the fundaments of literacy/alphabet.
asciilifeform: people come factory-standard with this penny in the fuse socket, 'i KNOW how...'
mircea_popescu: quite.
mircea_popescu: fucking irresponsible to encourage it in children. under any pretext.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: didja watch the circus i filmed ? got similar one in ben_vulpeslandia ?
ben_vulpes: tried over coffee this morning
asciilifeform: i heard that yours put mine to shame
ben_vulpes: oh 'twas glorious
ben_vulpes: they waltzed out onto i5, the corridor from mexico to canada ☟︎
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> oh 'twat glorious << FTFY
ben_vulpes: with the cops in front
ben_vulpes: https://goo.gl/maps/rYFn5Qnf2f62 << this onramp, if intel serves
asciilifeform: ours was some phantasmagoric sea of virginal j000 chixx, as if it were selection yard in commendant's office in chixschwitz
mircea_popescu: what gave it away, the noses ?
ben_vulpes: was there a particular timestamp of glory, asciilifeform ?
mircea_popescu: (/me once said at party, to obvious female dressed as female etc, "i bet you have a huge schlong". everyone burst out laughing and she... well... left.)
asciilifeform: lel
mircea_popescu: huge fcuking schnautz. i mean immense.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there is a particular phenotype, lots of'em here for some reason, largely in 'university' for 'education'
asciilifeform: well, in the womanities.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: no particular timestamp, but in the shorter segments, with the walking
mircea_popescu: wtf why do us-jews spell shnotys as ... schnoz ?!
mircea_popescu: noz ain't read like that ? wut ?
asciilifeform: brooklynization ?
mircea_popescu: but... but...
mircea_popescu: it's שנויץ for the love of fuck. /ʃnawt͡s/. wtf is schnoz.
ben_vulpes: oh cool
ben_vulpes: healthcare tax went up twenty percent
mircea_popescu: just ?
mircea_popescu: also it's not a tax, wrecker.
ben_vulpes: totally a tax
ben_vulpes: commie
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: make notatax great again!
ben_vulpes: still not over that 50% threshold
ben_vulpes: very few things beat winding up the girls, but winding up my parents over this miserable horseshit is fantabulously fun.
ben_vulpes: "45% tax rate and i can't even discuss putting my kid in a public school with a straight face"
mircea_popescu: why not ?
ben_vulpes: oregon schools are notoriously bad
mircea_popescu: how do you think you'll get your drugs in your old age if you don't give him a chance to learn the biz when he's young ?
ben_vulpes: slander
ben_vulpes: i have never done drugs
mircea_popescu: ah, but you will!
mircea_popescu: old people do drugs, it's an evolutionary biology fact.
ben_vulpes: and pray tell what drugs would i need kids help procuring?
mircea_popescu: when i was a kid, not going to public school was pretty much a public admission of mental retardation. "oh, poor ionescus, their kid has to go to that fingerpainting no grades private thing."
ben_vulpes: over here you only go to public school if you can't afford the private ones
mircea_popescu: i thought education was free.
ben_vulpes: daycare -- free.
mircea_popescu: motherfucker woman grabber making me pay for the human rights.
ben_vulpes: even 12k a year if you want to spend it.
ben_vulpes: education -- not available at any price.
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/wgvMr << moar sv butthurt
asciilifeform: '“While demeaning, insulting, and ridiculing minorities, immigrants, and the physically/mentally disabled worked for Mr. Trump, I want to be clear that this behavior -- and these views -- have no place at Grubhub,” Maloney explained. Adding, if it were up to him, Trump would have been fired a long time ago. "Had he worked here, many of his comments would have resulted in his immediate termination.”'
mircea_popescu: wtf is grubhub
mircea_popescu: ahahaha the new civil servant gang strategy : prosecute clinton a la vapeur so obama can pardon her and she gets double jeopardy protection.
mircea_popescu: aaaand leonard cohen died.
mod6: yeah, saw that :/
mircea_popescu: guy was old back when baez was young.
mod6: ya
mats: https://www.nrk.no/ytring/jeg-ble-voldtatt-av-en-mann-1.12852714
mats: >I do not feel anger toward my assailant, for I see him most as a product of an unjust world. A product of an upbringing marked by war and deprivation.
mats: how magnanimous
trinque: Afraid that I'll be perceived as anti feminist << yes, deprived of the dulap.
trinque: I don't fault him for his deep confusion; he's a born slave and has no one telling him what to do.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ahahaha the new civil servant gang strategy : prosecute clinton a la vapeur so obama can pardon her and she gets double jeopardy protection. << It's alright. She can roam free while she watches the rest rot in jail starting with Huma Weiner.
trinque: nothing coherent anyway
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-31#1560575 << it is the same here. these creatures have precisely zero internality. they are built entirely for the input of commands. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 15:12 mircea_popescu: very weird, the list of nonsense these people sprout. it's as if they have 0 reflexive capacity whatsoever, how am i supposed to distinguish google "ai" from some douche who spits out " Your style of just summarily shitting on how the author wrote this piece adds no value to the discussion." ?
BingoBoingo has seen very few people despondent about Trumpreich, only a couple angry, and many "grudgingly" accepting while smiling.
trinque: first first lady with nudes. what's not to like?
trinque: thus dawns a new day, I tell ye
trinque: speaking of good days, I received a shipment of 6 boxen for new payment related adventures today.
trinque: amazing the things you can get for the cost of a couple pizzas if you hate "our" future
mircea_popescu: wtf mats reads norse ?
mats: i use google translate
mircea_popescu: a
mats: which, on the subject, is also really good with chinese now
mircea_popescu: oh is it ?
mats: https://research.googleblog.com/2016/09/a-neural-network-for-machine.html
mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://68.media.tumblr.com/e43a6f38cfa64881f730bd405f674932/tumblr_mokr0iF1gI1rgcs3fo1_1280.jpg
trinque: mats: what's so fancy about that page that even the text doesn't load without JS?
trinque: I guess I'll never read anything they wrote again
mats: trinque: http://dpaste.com/33BFW4N
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/say-a-prayer/ << Trilema - Say a prayer...
BingoBoingo: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/11/10/huffington-post-dnc-staffer-screams-donna-brazile-helping-elect-donald-trump/ << Prayer Answered ☟︎
ben_vulpes: rip lc
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: re. http://trilema.com/2015/trilema-burns/ : you write that "Apparently the EU is about as impotent in practice as its fame for impotence promises in theory" in response to you being able to search for that person on google.com.ar ; whereas that letter plainly states that "Only results on European versions of Google are affected."
Framedragger: I am of course not disagreeing with the spirit of the matter, incl. regarding impotence etc.
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, they lack the letters a and r on eu keyboards ?
mircea_popescu: are you proposing that there's some sort of substance to an url, like "searching on google.com.ar" is somehow similar to "fucking girls in the alley behind the bar IN ROUEN rather than Bekescsaba" ?
Framedragger: i'm sure that google did not want to do more than was required, so they made the effects visible on the "european" version of google, for european users (the latter identified by ip address or, if logged into google accounts, selected country there; or somesuch).
mircea_popescu: there's exactly no relation between url and geolocation is there ?
Framedragger: so yes it's super trivial, but then - .eu can't dictate google's search results for non-european customers
mircea_popescu: in the end i'm not sure what you're saying.
Framedragger: hmm
mircea_popescu: "but mp, in the game they're playing this makes sense to them" "okay ?"
Framedragger: i got confused. basically, i think a european customer would get the same (doctored) results if they ran a search on .ar.
Framedragger: basically.
mircea_popescu: nonsense.
mircea_popescu: this is like saying a frenchman would see the internet in french even if he called trilema.com
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: fuck, you're right. "Some results may have been removed under data protection law in Europe" when running from google eu; both trilema URLs when running from .ar. what is this nonsense
Framedragger: okay, this is ridoinculously ineffective. lol.
jurov: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-11#1565865 layering "expressive" abstractions is not the only way to fit thigs into head. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-11 01:17 asciilifeform: the flow charts add 0 to the expressivity
mircea_popescu: the most important point here is that you for some god forsaken reason ACTUALLY THOUGHT, in your head, that if you write "whore" in lipstick on the back of your wife you're now fucking a whore.
Framedragger: look i didn't have much hope for this eurolaw thing on google etc, i did however assume that to circumvent it, one would have to spend at least a few minutes (masking IP whatnot), not a few seconds
mircea_popescu: this is what they mean when they say reddit makes one stupid : "social media" tends to drive this name-object confusion in young'uns.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger no, you're gettin' it now :D
Framedragger: my whole worldview is an array of name-object confusions. half of my mental life is like that "hesperus is phoshorus" problem
Framedragger: "but if the first star is planet venus and the second star is planet venus, then.. WHO WAS PHONE"
Framedragger: 'prenatal child gets introduced to semantics' kind of mental blur >.<
mircea_popescu: well, it goes away as you age.
mircea_popescu: anyway, frege's own example is much better than the latter retellings in english. he used der Abendstern and der Morgenstern.
mircea_popescu: you see what the anglotards did ? they replaced the names ; but not innocently. they replaced to serve the two things anglotards are all about : a fake loftyness (oh noes, really, classical names by the classically educated ? except medieval fakes ? ohoho how very cheers-vilised we find ourselves, that frasier crane will eat his heart out!) and a practical confusion. Now you need ~them~ to explain to you what the names mean,
mircea_popescu: it's no longer evident like in that Nazi's naive packaging. It's good for the economy! It creates jobs!
mircea_popescu: stay away from translations ; especially in philosophy (which is everything besides plumbing) ; especially when translated into english ; and especially when translated from german.
mircea_popescu: stay away from translation, for translation is treason.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: good point. a fair note though, some translations use 'morning star' and 'evening star', which convey the meaning well, i think.
Framedragger: though, then it's not clear that 'morning star' and 'evening star' are *proper* names (like Jacob), so...
Framedragger: ugh, translation.
Framedragger: (they're supposed to be proper names, not just 'table')
mircea_popescu: the problem with trason isn't that you can't find a faithful translation.
mircea_popescu: the problem with treason is that you can't identify which it is
mircea_popescu: as per macbeth, you know.
mircea_popescu: treason drives insanity.
Framedragger: :)
Framedragger: hm. yeah
Framedragger: i wonder, maybe some of frege's stuff can be read in english in 'relative' (i'm naive yes) safety. for example his foundations of Arithmetic
Framedragger: i've never read the latter, and my deutsch is bad (but in principle passable with a dictionary at hand, possibly)
mircea_popescu: there's a reason the perfidious islands produced nothing in their entire history. that reason has to do to how there isn't even the words to translate properly, so either they hide behind some greek statue located in a french garden, or else they make with the common nouns.
mircea_popescu: english is a fine language to do your accounting in.
mircea_popescu: (and yes, i'm saying that the typical reasoning, "he said grab them by the pussy therefore he disrespects women" is not simply due to the speaker being stupid, or lazy. it's also how english happens to work, internally.)
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: incidentally, any recommendation on which of the following to pick to learn as a new tongue? (sample at hand is due to some future pragmatical considerations, in terms of possible living places etc. - maybe not he last entry): french (i can't french at all), german (some knowledge), portuguese (none), russian (very rudimentary, call it none)
mircea_popescu: what's your process for learning as a new tongue ?
Framedragger: i haven't decided. last time it happened i was in high school. healthy dose of conversation + good textbooks, though that is not really a concrete process at all.
Framedragger: i'd like to be able to read some god damn decent literature in something else than english or lithuanian (the latter is an OK language, too bad it's language of proles)
mircea_popescu: languages are to be learnt from women. so go out with girls you like, pick the first one who also has a lot of booksat home, learn her language.
jurov: Framedragger: if literature, then defo go for german
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: nice, that sounds.. not like a chore. some very nice advice to be tried.. thanks.
mircea_popescu: or french. or portuguese. or russian. but yes.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i never learned a language any other way, and this includes fucking latin.
Framedragger: wowza
Framedragger: that's pretty cool.
mircea_popescu: (yes, the reason mp doesn't lisp may have a lot to do with the absence of hot lisp chicks.)
Framedragger imagines mircea_popescu learning declensions by writing with ink on a girl's back
mircea_popescu: lol. you know, if you drive to the starbucks it doesn't follow you actually stopped the car inside the booth.
Framedragger: jurov: curious why german in particular. but hm! fair enough i guess
mircea_popescu: possibly cuz that's what he read ? you certainly won't starve in any of the ones mentioned.
jurov: Framedragger: was interested into psychology, went to read in original
Framedragger: ..yeah i'm not going for sindarin or w/e language(s) tolkien invented. could be fun, but.. eh
jurov: ebonics ftw!
mircea_popescu: hey, at least learning it will go easy.
mircea_popescu: rather related, http://trilema.com/2013/the-wonderful-powers-of-make-believe/
mircea_popescu: incidentally, after all the blather about how russia influenced the elections (hey, check it out, russia can do that!) where's the articles about how sweden organised protests against trump ?
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz, http://blog.sfgate.com/morford/files/2015/11/cocktail-wax_vajazzle-2014.jpg
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/R2lYH << in other noose.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-11#1565891 << I read that they smashed cars and windows all night... in a city that went for clitler. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-11 01:27 ben_vulpes: they waltzed out onto i5, the corridor from mexico to canada
trinque: delicious. I hope they burn the place down.
trinque: asciilifeform: this marks the coming of Great Again.
phf: "we ain't rasis, we politically conscious"
asciilifeform: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw7nqoiUkAANrm3.jpg << see also. ☟︎
phf: i will admit though, i didn't expect this level of hypocrisy from the progressives, i was to some extent taking what they are saying at face value ☟︎
asciilifeform: what face value. their only consistent line for past century was 'what's mine is mine and what's yours is mine' etc.
phf: liberté, égalité, fraternité
phf: ls
phf: err
asciilifeform: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/E-Meter/Mark-VII << definitely not news, but of interest to folks in low-volume electronics manufacture.. ☟︎
asciilifeform wonders if these folk have their own assembly house
mats: shitball.bin is at 200kb
mats: this is going to take years
trinque: phf: nah, didn't get exactly what they wanted, are now shitting themselves in defiance
trinque: the pants belong to someone else anyway; it's self-consistent
trinque: ben_vulpes: you gotta qntra this; you're right there in the action!
trinque: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/09/putin-applauds-trump-win-and-hails-new-era-of-positive-ties-with-us << He denied allegations of Russian interference in the election, but said “maybe we helped a bit with WikiLeaks.”
trinque: top trolling
mod6: heheh
asciilifeform: mats: what's the effective bitrate ?
mats: 2 bits a second
asciilifeform: aaaaaha
asciilifeform: soooo auditable
asciilifeform: sooooo measurable...
asciilifeform: in other noose, 'The afternoon rally came a day after fliers appeared in bathrooms across campus warning of pro-Trump "vigilante squads." The fliers contained a picture of men clad in camouflage holding rifles and said the squads would “arrest and torture those deviant university leaders spouting off all this diversity garbage.” University police were investigating the source of the fliers.'
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> incidentally, after all the blather about how russia influenced the elections (hey, check it out, russia can do that!) where's the articles about how sweden organised protests against trump ? << Tomorrow maybe in Roundup Xtend after I catch up on reading
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: WTF, why are they promoting hate crimes against white people dressed in traditional garb for deer season?!
phf: "these men are armed with assault rifles!!"
ben_vulpes: trinque: i am nowhere near the action, tyvm
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: sooo get in the panzer & drive!11111
ben_vulpes: only action i'm remotely interested in is abdulraman sameer noorah's trial on the fifteenth
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: nah, i don't take the capital equipment out romping amongst anarchist, the antipersonnell hardware's on the fritz
ben_vulpes deeply uninterested in broken megacorp windows downtown when there are fires to light and dance around in the rainy woods
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Fine, locate your nearest "rainbow people" camp and shit on their parade
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: mwhat is a rainbow people?
trinque: looked like it was shops and cars too, not just megacorp
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: contemporary hippies
trinque: kulaks I guess
ben_vulpes: trinque: apparently someone got arrested carrying six 'molotov cocktails'
ben_vulpes: i don't know how stupid you have to be to get caught before hefting any firebombs...
ben_vulpes: and i'm not even particularly convinced they'd have worked anyways.
trinque: lol!
asciilifeform: perhaps he used mircea_popescu's gag recipe with plastic bottle. which dissolved.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: ah yeah not really my scene, too straight to appreciate ritual deflowerings and assorted defilements
trinque: ritual deflowerings wat
trinque: that sounds kinda fun!
BingoBoingo: WHich is why you go to shit on their parade and bring tiding of Trumpreich
ben_vulpes: sadly, i have not done enough battle with the gods of tidiness and compulsion to be into playing with my poop
trinque: wat
trinque by now has no idea wtf goes on in oregon woods ☟︎
ben_vulpes: trinque: it sounds to me like BingoBoingo wants to see hippie scat play
ben_vulpes: trinque: nobody has any idea
BingoBoingo: Nah, me wants to see ben_vulpes practice his oppressing
trinque: they had naked sluts at the hot springs but afaik that was banned
trinque: much to the sorrow of all
ben_vulpes: wat
ben_vulpes: which spring?
trinque: what's the one due southeast in the national forest
trinque: I remember there was weeping and gnashing of teeth over nudity in some facebook group back when I had one of those
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/11/duterte-welcomes-us-trumpreich-and-looks-forward-to-warm-relations/ << Qntra - Duterte Welcomes US Trumpreich And Looks Forward To Warm Relations
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-11#1565968 << the funny thing being that the dnc is pretty much a sorority. i mean this very literally, a collection of girls trapped in old women bodies. AND THE CHEEROCRACY LOST THE CHEERLEADING BALL! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-11 06:25 BingoBoingo: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/11/10/huffington-post-dnc-staffer-screams-donna-brazile-helping-elect-donald-trump/ << Prayer Answered
mircea_popescu: it's gonna be funnay if they go for the whole "it's clinton's fault" thing, considering the woman didn't even want to run - THEY BEGGED HER TO.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Anyways my early projection for next Democratic presidential nominee is Tammy Duckworth. It would have been Jason Kander, butt... his loss.
mircea_popescu: i expect pelosi lol. she'd only be 80.
BingoBoingo: Nah, they'll prolly be looking for "freshman senator magic" again
mircea_popescu: maybe they get a fat and pimply black guy from tennessee
mircea_popescu: who loses again and then it can be all about racism in "the public debate"
BingoBoingo: Only if one wins the senate seat there in 2014
mircea_popescu: there is that.
mircea_popescu: course 2018 is also a thing.
BingoBoingo: Time doesn't flow that way anymore in Murica, The Great Again is starting.
BingoBoingo: Soon there will be alt-1950's except poorer
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-11#1566045 << lol may take a few of those. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-11 15:41 asciilifeform: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw7nqoiUkAANrm3.jpg << see also.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-11#1566046 << kinda how the scam works. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-11 15:42 phf: i will admit though, i didn't expect this level of hypocrisy from the progressives, i was to some extent taking what they are saying at face value
mircea_popescu: lmao mwhat is a thing now ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-11#1566091 << ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-11 18:05 trinque by now has no idea wtf goes on in oregon woods
ben_vulpes: mwho?
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: meanwhile on the dns "registrar" front, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/6di65/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: tl;dr: gandi.net is a fucking joke, approximately the equivalent of eating fast food in food court "restaurant", so you can pay 20 bux for the same two dollar happy meal.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fwiw i've used it for many years, it worx
asciilifeform: but there is afaik nothing particularly great about it.
asciilifeform: it doesn't 'price competitively' because it doesn't (last i saw) sell customers to spammers, plaster self with pestilential ads, 'park' linkfarms on paying customer domains, etc
asciilifeform: the 'competitive' dnstrons -- do.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-10#1565578 << see also. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-10 17:16 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in a very theoretical principle, this. the mechanisms involved in the practical discussion, however, aren't nearly there. just simple cash starvation, "why is roach motel full of roaches!" "because you're paying $8 a night"
asciilifeform: 'I'm getting that for 5.96 currently. .com .net 15 each ? Is this some kind of a joke that's funny in your culture ?' << i'd be curious, then, what is mircea_popescu getting for the 5.96 $, and why not continue to buy it.
jurov: gandi.net needs to join tmsr. then we can have domains for phree :D
asciilifeform: ( and how many other necessary things does mircea_popescu buy at-cost, and really, there's no catch..? ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: jurov: there is an upstream cost, given as all dns regs are sub-leases from hitler.
jurov: I see you got the joke.
asciilifeform: at one point i worked for a co that supplied dns reg as part of a larger package of high-roller services (rather than, as usually seen with registrars, to public) -- the 'crown concession' was quite costly
asciilifeform: (mid 6-figs at the time iirc)
asciilifeform: (they also collected fat moneys for the service, i shit thee not, of watching that the domain reg does not 'walk away', because not-winblowzing, not-using-guessable-pw, etc. is Too Much To Expect from multi-$B 'tbtf' orgs)
asciilifeform: this is one of those affairs bitcoin oughta be delightfully perverting to all hell, as per mircea_popescu's prophecy
asciilifeform: if i misplace a benjie, hitler will not give me new one. if goldman sachs 'misplaces' domain -- hitler is delighted to give back.
phf: sort of reminds of the laptop from achewood http://achewood.com/index.php?date=04022008 http://achewood.com/index.php?date=04032008
phf: "you seem to be attempting to reassigning your domain, why don't you call your agent to chat about?" ☟︎
asciilifeform: believe or not, 'you' (definitely not you, nor me, but some favourite son somewhere) can make $mils by offering service of 'dns reg just like the 5.95 one but we need signed letter from CEO of your corp, notarized by the board, before we'll move a domain'
asciilifeform: (and, since mircea_popescu is not awake to ask this, i will answer in advance -- no, it wasn't pgptronic 'no valid sig -- goto hell'. afaik this isn't doable under u.s. jurisdiction )
jurov: .SK NIC actually does this notarized bureaucracy PITA when the owner, dies or otherwise ceases to exist
jurov: *it's PITA
asciilifeform: iirc some eu countries even demand a physical resident agent before issuing domain
phf: i once got a contract closed because the hosting provider was located in a former missile launch facility, i mentioned it during a pitch, and i think that more so than anything else that ensured the bid went through. "security"
phf:
asciilifeform: pretty lulzy, considering that the actual 'burglarproofing' of the shafts came 100% from the promise of guard platoon showing up <15min after alarm tripped
asciilifeform: and not from the staff access door (which was armoured, but against overpressure, not crowbar)
asciilifeform: in other very much non-news, https://archive.is/RAPiG , i take back everything i ever said re how opening 'tmsr church' is waste of time. it ain't, not if we can build one of THESE!111111111111
BingoBoingo: AHA, where alf discovers virtue of cults
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in the end i picked namesilo.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lel, i always liked cults
mircea_popescu: we shall see about this "sell to spammers", i have exactly 0 confidence in the gandi thing chiefly because on the form they claim icann REQUIRES them to sell your data to spammers.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in truth i cannot recommend any dns seller, this may well be a case of 'pay the cheapest shaman'
mircea_popescu: and i don't continue to buy it because internetbs.net (ex internet.bs) decided to discontinue bitcoin payments "for legal reasons". so i told them where to stuff it, the only reason i made the fucking acct last year when i ditched namecheap was because they had btc
asciilifeform: aah
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform exactly that.
mircea_popescu: and it makes a difference, wtf, i'm going to pay ~2500 for a 1200 bill because "services" ? i wish to know wtf services they do for over a grand
mircea_popescu: this is exactly that field where "take this old crust of bread, and i don't wish to hear from you for two decades", and they're ALL doing it wrong. "oh we upgraded the website" "oh we changed payment processing" MOTHERFUCKER
mircea_popescu: you do not change. anything. ever.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/11/trump-voter-lynched-in-chicago-for-supporting-the-great-again/ << Qntra - Trump Voter Lynched In Chicago For Supporting The Great Again
mircea_popescu: change is the worst fucking thing. get leprosy instead, it's a better deal.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo saying white man was lynched is racist! saying ourdemocracy valiant fighters lynched some dude is racist!
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Tell that to our urban negro!
mircea_popescu: all dis structural racism
BingoBoingo: Just wait for post-structural racism!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-11#1566134 << most of the things i buy. including real estate, human slaves, cutlery, antiques, cars and machinery, you name it. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-11 21:23 asciilifeform: ( and how many other necessary things does mircea_popescu buy at-cost, and really, there's no catch..? )
mircea_popescu: retail is for suckers.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: church of s is probably the most interesting item in usa, from tmsr perspective. think, they - apparently - run a complete northkr ~inside~ usa, with palaces, factories, gulags, fuck knows, possibly complete with rockets. and ~0 newspaper whine.
mircea_popescu: or at least used to
asciilifeform: i've not turned up any report of castle linked earlier having been sacked or sold at auction etc. but i have nfi, i never sat on its throne or in the dungeon.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-11#1566143 << this is the core of "private banking". "do you have a lot of money ? are you too dumb to understand how wires work ? we only cost $500 a month (+some % of your every move in small print)" ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-11 21:33 phf: "you seem to be attempting to reassigning your domain, why don't you call your agent to chat about?"
asciilifeform: linked piece even suggests that they have something like mircea_popescu's 'human pig' system.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform afaik they're running a sort of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-05#1563151 for celebs. you pay them a mn a year or w/e and they allocate a coupla slavegirls to you. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-05 15:22 mircea_popescu: epstein is one of many such squires, let's call them. the squire's estate consists of a brothel, which may be obv multiple physical locations but generally arranged in a star pattern, a harvesting operation, his connections to the democrat party (in this case via abedin-clinton-obama). he doesn't do his own marketing, the people running the whole thing do.
mircea_popescu: not terribly independent or anything.
asciilifeform: well somebody kryshas it.
mircea_popescu: oh, same people as epstein dude. it's a dnc outfit through and through.
asciilifeform: seems a little overengineered for ordinary bordello.
asciilifeform: really, spikes, minefields?
mircea_popescu: (note that the dona brazile thing was IN FRONT OF EMPLOYEES. those 150 people weren't fucking volunteers, they were dorks making more money than the owner of vox/salon/what have you, not the journowhores doing all the wordsmithing. and who were expecting more. A LOT MORE. and now they don't think they'll ever get it
mircea_popescu: which is the meaning of "you'll die of old age and i'll die of global warming" : you made your 50mn and i'm never gonna make my half bn.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's a visual culture. kinda like how they glue plastic wood imitation to station wagons and plant fake vineyards in the back of the alt-flavoured soda vending machine.
asciilifeform: https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1r2T6Pq3-S1w0L4YcS1fbzvEnqHM&hl=en&ll=33.80916597520113%2C-116.8815388597464&z=12 << considerably larger, and, by all accounts, more lavish, than, e.g., camp david, or nsa hq, or, or.
asciilifeform: but the fact asciilifeform finds more interesting is that they have, apparently, a complete electronic manufacturing vertical there.
asciilifeform: (for the 'e-meter' cultron, naturally, linked earlier)
mircea_popescu: "electronic". their thing is electric.
asciilifeform: nope. read link.
asciilifeform: 8-bit cpu!11111
mircea_popescu: pfff.
asciilifeform: >> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-11#1566051 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-11 16:00 asciilifeform: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/E-Meter/Mark-VII << definitely not news, but of interest to folks in low-volume electronics manufacture..
mircea_popescu: they're not baking them
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/KCw7W << well, ~allegedly~
asciilifeform did not go there, did not bake it
mircea_popescu: also, those gaypope pics tell a story of rural poverty.
asciilifeform: with the shit-pits ?
mircea_popescu: i'm supposed to be impressed by that handmade one-off "spiked fence" ? it's badly designed, fatally flawed and deeply dysfunctional.
mircea_popescu: wtf else, they got a speaker ? some cctv ?
asciilifeform: it's a dubai.
asciilifeform: million for throne room, not a penny for trash pickup, etc.
mircea_popescu: eh get out. it's a ranch.
asciilifeform: dubai in the 'orc fantasy' sense, not in 'commercial megapolis'.
asciilifeform: www.ultrabarrier.com << spike vendor.
asciilifeform: they resemble oversized pigeon spikes from chicago metro.
mircea_popescu: it's the antipersonnel equivalent of "scoped out" rifle. really.
asciilifeform: dunno that it is such a bad deal, escapee slave can jump ordinary barbed wire with leather coats, tarps, etc., but not so easily spikes.
mircea_popescu: dude... you're not serious are you ?
mircea_popescu: a) they're visibly atached. you can just take them off. b) they sit on top of a dingy chickenwire thing you can cut through with a fucking nail clip c) they're on a fence already sagging from age, whose supports lay loose in soft earth ; no concrete base block nothing.
asciilifeform: take off?!
asciilifeform: as i understand, these are against naked chix running off into the woods in the dead of night.
mircea_popescu: yes. they're clip-ons, look at the pic.
asciilifeform: not tank division.
mircea_popescu: they're against the nightmares of the mentally ill. they have no practical effect.
mircea_popescu: it's a fucking cinematic prop.
asciilifeform: vendor page had 'install with ordinary tig welder' or the like.
mircea_popescu: http://angrygaypope.com/gold/gold_security_gallery/images/fence_blades_fgnd_focus.jpg << those aren't weld spots.
asciilifeform: i cannot tell, from this pic, how thing was made.
asciilifeform: perhaps - from papier mache.
mircea_popescu: it seems to me the rail came with holes, and the "blades" came with steel spring which got forced into the hole.
asciilifeform: or rivet, aha.
mircea_popescu: inside rivet ?
asciilifeform: keyhole rivet.
asciilifeform: like the chicago pigeon system.
mircea_popescu: it wouldn't be visibly loose. there's like 2mm space between "blade" and its seat on the side of the attachment.
mircea_popescu: that's a good sign they're just loose there
asciilifeform: strange thing to make.
mircea_popescu: (you can see the sun shine through, so you know)
asciilifeform: but i can easily imagine demented pope buying this, like he bought the rest of it, 'looked SOOOO K000000L!1111'
asciilifeform: homes of american 'rich & famous' tend to have this flavour, or at least the parts visible from outside
mircea_popescu: myeah. still, back at reality ranch, poor quality low value fence 3/10.
asciilifeform: betcha it does the job tho.
asciilifeform: chixx - stay in.
asciilifeform: (slowed in escape for the 10 minutes or so that the chix-retention battalion needs to pick'em back up, throw in truck bed, and return to their pit)
asciilifeform: fences per se are a largely decorative item in modern world -- the item which actually does the work is the microwave perimeter sensor
BingoBoingo: Still does little to keep determined invader from seizing ranch and nekkid chix.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: "lynced"?
asciilifeform: introduced in '60s for -- incidentally, last thead -- rocket silos
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/11/numerous-jobs-for-the-unemployable-being-created-as-the-great-again-approaches/ << Qntra - Numerous Jobs For The Unemployable Being Created As The Great Again Approaches
asciilifeform: many washington dc lizard terrariums have minimal or even nonexistent fences, but many intersecting 'lines of fire' of sensor.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: ty fxd
mircea_popescu: dude what chix even.
asciilifeform: nfi! mircea_popescu did suggest that it was an epsteinarium..
mircea_popescu: that place looks like you'd be hard pressed to find fresh veal. let alone anything you'd want to fuck.
mircea_popescu: yes, but not in the high performance sexual sense.
asciilifeform: in which, then, sense ?
mircea_popescu: there's just a bunch of dorks doing what every single servant class american SHOULD be doing, which is to say "yes sir no sir thank you sir oh how great you look today".
mircea_popescu: travolta goes there to decompress, when he gets fucking sick of smartass cab drivers, ironic waitresses and whatnot other "i'm only doing this until" idiots.
asciilifeform: sounds like a viable business model for northkr!11111
asciilifeform: 'travolta service'
mircea_popescu: quite, yes.
mircea_popescu: nfi why they don't do it. at some point in the late 80s they almost look like they were gonna
mircea_popescu: who knows, maybne they do and it's chinese strictly.
asciilifeform: 'we have 10,000,001 eager servants who will come in pants if you give'em a 'snickers''
BingoBoingo: "If I wasn’t sitting in the room with my mother and my hands were not hopelessly broken and callused, I’d consider masturbating to the live feed of crying feminists at the Queen Apparent’s Headquarters." << http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=5638
mircea_popescu: not even. "Dear Guest, for your comfort please note that snicker bars must be split up to all employees. Please contact the nearest Whipmaster for the procedure. Thank you!"
mircea_popescu: then they cut it to bits and put it in doggy bowls.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i lost the transmission past "room with mother"
asciilifeform: probably per customer request !! some might prefer, e.g., that the 'snickers' be on a fishing hook, on a line.
mircea_popescu: lol
asciilifeform: or in mousetrap.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well I'm guessing Herr Lafond who presents Baltimore does not have television of own and for a change decided to take refuge outside of city limits rather than shelter in place.
mircea_popescu: i guess.
asciilifeform: i thought he lived in an old broken clay amphora!
mircea_popescu: so is sanders gonna split his own faction, what's the prediction market say ?
BingoBoingo: Sanders likely not long for this world seeing as he is oldest of the olds.
mircea_popescu: Call it American Socialist Party, prolly get about a tenth to a third of current dem + all the "radicals" and whatnots. since the democrats are utterly fucked with all-minorities PLUS they're going to lose 5-10 more senators in 2018 (look at the map lol, it's a carnage, 6 sens up for reelection in freshly red states) so it'll be forever a case of "we are better than the dnc, we suck but they fail".
mircea_popescu: it's his moment, if he'll take it.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo all he has to do is put the cornerstone.
BingoBoingo: Possibru
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: perhaps he can take the mummy of cpusa out of the museum and resurrect
mircea_popescu: nah, communism is bad cachet. he wants socialism.
mircea_popescu: possibly use something dump like "Progress Coallition" or whatever brandy nonsense
mircea_popescu: and in other trickle down economics, http://68.media.tumblr.com/35156c82eb3c2dfc7fa904702e2907fc/tumblr_n0jmi4zv051s59ueeo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform cannot even think of 'trickle down' without thinking of mircea_popescu's latrine-pig systems.
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/RAk3I << in other bizarrities.
asciilifeform has been to this diner many times, never saw clitler. though it IS the place next to which there is a peculiar private house with iron door and 'high voltage' sign, but through windows one can see that it is not a substation, there are lights, office furniture...
mircea_popescu: why do these people eat so much pizza
mircea_popescu: it's not even pizza, at that. greasy shitballs ffs.
asciilifeform: it was perhaps closest thing to pizza in these lands.
mircea_popescu: but pizza is a poor fisherman's sustenance.
mircea_popescu: literally, dirt poor, eat every other day sort of poor.
asciilifeform: no argument.
mircea_popescu: o wow, that heart-with-heart spiral thing is actually a "i wanna fuck preteen girls" thing ?
trinque: seems like "big triangle little triangle" or heart
asciilifeform: !!up the_scourge
deedbot: the_scourge voiced for 30 minutes.
mats: hes back
mircea_popescu: lol "hames alefantis owns a pizzeria and is the ex-boyfriend of david brock who runs correct the record and who claimed it spent millions of dollars to pay redditards to bury qntra stories". mmmkay.
mircea_popescu: "katy grannan, a photographer known for documentary-style pictures of naked teenagers in their parents' suburban homes". ahaha say wut ?
mircea_popescu: must be a different katy grannan.
asciilifeform: fwiw the (unofficial) main dem party b00kstore is on same street
asciilifeform: as is its back-office.
asciilifeform: it is wildly popular, and various 'luminaries' perform there, incl. clitler at one point.
the_scourge: rehi guys
the_scourge: david brock was blackmailed for nearly a million a few years back by a gay lover
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the politics nand prose thing ? yeah.
asciilifeform: i was there just a week before tritlerday, it was full of you can guess what.
mircea_popescu: jewish kids with shitty degrees and great expectations ?
asciilifeform: them also
asciilifeform: but i was thinking of the most self-congratulatory propaganda 'books' one could imagine
mircea_popescu: ah
asciilifeform: 'how america almost made the trump mistake' etc.
asciilifeform: also the clitler thing with the student loan jubilee, photo'd and linked here
asciilifeform: !!up scourge
deedbot: scourge voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: aha
asciilifeform: scourge: they confiscated all but your 300 baud modem or what.
scourge: sorry folks, running irssi locally. i lost my VPNs and my bitcoin was all seized
mircea_popescu: ...
scourge: asciilifeform: idk i'm connected to some wireless
scourge: bandwidth seems ok but it times out sometimes. might need to play with my settings
mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/MeGTJ#selection-3405.0-3405.38 << Biljana Djurdjevic, if anyone gives a shit. just old enough at the time of the troubles to have involuntarily participated in the ass trade, except of course for the happenstance she was born in belgrade not sarajevo
scourge: "salon d'octobre" is that a communist reference? October revolution?
mircea_popescu: dun think so.
scourge: Maybe it's artistic to name your crew after a month
scourge: mircea_popescu: how you been? Any comments on this stenography that's popping up with pizzagate?
mircea_popescu: above.
scourge: um, it's james not hames and yah CTR is real
mircea_popescu: "UPDATE 11/9 – Anon has learned of a password secured area for Comet Pizza http://www.cometpingpong.com/protected This is extremely odd for a pizza place. Within hours, Anon had infiltrated the servers. I’m not a hacker, so I’m just relaying information here, but it seems there is extensive security which even our best men have not been able to breach. ALL THAT TO PROTECT A PIZZA JOINT? They have confirmed the coded fil
mircea_popescu: es names able to be viewed but not downloaded are video files." << i thought that part was pretty good.
scourge: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/37262
scourge: ^CTR - like team. But done by Alphabet and Eric Schmidt and with 1.5 billion in budget and all of google's resources to build a "unique voter ID" on everyone
scourge: mircea_popescu: where was that quote from?
mircea_popescu: item alf linked above, "other bizzarities"
scourge missed it, goes to look at the logs
asciilifeform: what's interesting in the linked eric schmidt email ?
scourge: anyone getting timeouts and weird stuff on voat?
scourge: asciilifeform: smoking gun for CTR stuff but 100X worse and with 100X the budget and using all of google's data and psyops for the Clintons
mircea_popescu: the campaign never reached 1.5bn, never employed 5k people nor ever managed to house 1k people with other people.
scourge: mircea_popescu: proof? how do you know what ended up happening?
mircea_popescu: it's kinda my business to know what'll end up happening 6+ months in advance.
scourge: mircea_popescu: i know that. but how do you know the internal workings of Schmidt+clintons+google?
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/9MwsU >> 'Sticky as a long, slow summertime fuck.' << lel
mircea_popescu: like you know everything else, by echos and refraction ; waste heat and waste energy... all detection works the same way.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform apparently they really are lizards.
scourge: mircea_popescu: god damn you should have put a fucking NSFW on the tumblr. Or should we assume that tumblr jpgs are NSFW
mircea_popescu: well... thing is moreover that relatively little of what we discuss here is either work-friendly or all that recommended for people with jobs
mircea_popescu: or wives.
asciilifeform: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Comet+Ping+Pong,+5037+Connecticut+Ave+NW,+Washington,+DC+20008/@38.9559497,-77.0699666,15z << lel, now full of 'we hate pedo scum!111' reviews
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform honestly, if this email is genuine, it does not speak in favour of schmidt's intellect.
scourge: the irony is that tor+VM+cafe wifi is a recommended minimum for working with hacking a potential pedo ring, but that "cafe WIFI" is usually located inside... a cafe (which is full of dones)
asciilifeform: he reads like nigerian spam forum d00dz
mircea_popescu: horribly mangled mix of things on different levels and layers, he has no clear fucking idea of anything.
mircea_popescu: scourge oh, you're working with hacking a potential pedo ring ?
scourge: The last few weeks have shown me that the closer to the top one gets, the more stupid things you see. Globalists are a great example of the peter principle (and mabye even the gervais principle)
asciilifeform: '[five star review] We're coming for you Alefantis, your organized ring of pedophiles is about to be exposed. Youre gonna burn motherf-r.'
mircea_popescu: oh is this the hacking warning ?
asciilifeform: it is from the 'google reviews' link.
asciilifeform: which is now full of this ???.
mircea_popescu: top idiocies : "ind a way to do polling online and not on phones." ; "The code developed for 2012 (Narwahl etc.) is unlikely to be used, and replaced by a model where" and it kinda lost me there.
asciilifeform: ( i have nfi where they are supposed to be keeping the pedos, it is mostly a pub, full of drunks )
mircea_popescu: no code reuse, check that out. ima make new shit ? to throw away in 2020 ? get bent.
mircea_popescu: and least narwahl wasn't as horrifying as that orca shit romney came up with.
phf: ama start leaving reviews on mexican drug cartel addresses "i'm coming for you, ese, this drug ring is over!!1"
scourge: asciilifeform: the guys on 4chan are saying that kids aren't kept at CPP at all