a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 17:30 asciilifeform: whaddayamean they don't sit around , retired and deposed colonels, deciding which fighting cock to sell, before starving
phf: i know a few argentinians through yoga jet set crowd, and they are pleasant and fun company if nothing else. i prefer them to americans or germans most of the time
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: walking the blockchain in search of payments to a pubkey or pubkey hash, and indexing those in some manner (accounting for spends) such that they can be reconstituted into a transaction later
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: q more along the lines of "what is least necessary to write to disk in order to be useful later"
phf: asciilifeform: i think the main objection is that it's a country of millenials, lota pretense, not much doing
ben_vulpes: well yes i'm familiar with how the bits are laid down, but i am less familiar with how trb handles it internally
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform argentina ? it's great for a week, and for a month. it's horrible for longer because the people are such subhuman shits.
mircea_popescu: phf that argentina is essentially a scam. it never existed ; much like vhs america never existed.
mircea_popescu: this isn't to say that pre-peron argentina wasn't a major world power, it was. but at no point was greenwich village what lifetime ohioan poet imagined it to be ; and similarily the hallucinated argentina of borges is a place exactly in the sense hemingway's manhood is a manhood or blair's civilisation is a civilisation.
mircea_popescu: leaving aside that if you got to meet beria it was all fun and games from there on, the "discotheque" was a thing even for plebs.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: shinohai yes. their official beach where everyone goes is actually untreated sewage. they don't care.
shinohai: "Hey this water makes our skin more brown, so we aren't pasty like the Chileans!"
mircea_popescu: phf they pretend to be millennials. in point of fact are apes.
phf has a sudden urge to get some vodka and zakuska "nu chto, bratci, odahnem, so vkusom! eeeeeeh!"
mircea_popescu: the notion that ~at any point~ teh russkis lacked a night life is borne out of a very strange life.
mircea_popescu: more of a scene in fucking 42 leningrad than buenos aires ever saw.
mircea_popescu: dunno why you'd want more than a coupla anyway. it's redundant to all fuck.
mircea_popescu: eh, i don't expect worldwide usage of otp ticker exceeds 1mbps.
phf: look at you connecting things like some kind of terrorist
mircea_popescu: nah, fast ion - matter interaction is iffy. they can go a mile.
mircea_popescu: phase velocity of light in water is like .75, so if the water glows blue there's electrons there going > .75, meaning they'll go a few meters.
mircea_popescu: i imagine some of the best electronics for rng would be satellites. measure it straight in the solar panels!
a111: Logged on 2017-04-04 02:19 mircea_popescu: leaving aside that if you got to meet beria it was all fun and games from there on, the "discotheque" was a thing even for plebs.
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jhvh1: shinohai: Error: "is" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: phf the main objection to your quiet style is that now i can't discern whether you a) understood the arguments and are thinking about it ; b) simply didn't understand the arguments or c) understood what was said but didn't judge it any kind of argument. express yourself, don't repress yourself!
☟︎ mircea_popescu: somebody needs to be blonder, wtf hairy-armed jewishness is this.
shinohai: !~translate en to uk wtf hairy-armed jewishness is this?
jhvh1: shinohai: WTF волохатого збройне єврейство це?
shinohai: I actually had a Russian camgirl that asked if I was Jew before she paid for services, she said she didn't like jews and wouldn't pay them xD
shinohai performs service, takes her money, signs off with a hearty "Mazel Tov, cyka!"
mircea_popescu: "To znay: za chest' dolzhna schitat' znakomstvo yunkerskogo khuya!"
trinque: asciilifeform: it occurs to me that v-ports-tree oughtn't *need* USE flags or package.mask ; those are bad solutions to "have a better WoT"
trinque: I don't expect that there would for example be a diversity of republican emacs builds
trinque: and if some idiot provides a vpatch that enables dbus, you simply do not use his key in .wot
☟︎ trinque: hm, possibly. though it's also possible I trust two separate paths down the v-tree for that
trinque: we discussed this for trb openbsd patches
trinque: subject there was ifdef throughout the code vs having multiple branches descending from the point multi-arch began
trinque: often yes having the same patches ground onto each path
trinque: but then the decision tree is there in V instead of buried in the code
trinque: also costless abandonment of branches ; nothing to back out in the vpatched material
trinque: aha, that problem remains.
trinque: I dunno the existing C world can ever be expected to be fixed in the manner you imply.
trinque: just caught, like trb, here's how it was
trinque: sure, subset of "world" can be fixed
a111: Logged on 2016-08-22 03:23 phf: well, since asciilifeform's not here "let them eat nagant! wake me up when less stupid people!"
trinque: because trying to enable luser that wouldn't be able to say. it's a sort of accessability for the disabled.
trinque: if we're all equal, that guy can get laid too.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-04 15:51 asciilifeform: to expand: say your proggy uses, i dunno, pthreads. wants to know where to find the header. WHY does this turn into a MB of scriptolade liquishit ? rather than a 1liner, that tries to find it and if not finds, prompts the user ?
Framedragger: yeah that was my conclusion. so, guess will do. mk.
trinque: also srsly don't reason with "is bad"
Framedragger: trinque: not my reason, was satire (bad satire)
trinque: asciilifeform: tried to make accessible is fine by this standard
trinque: there's caked shit there in the spot; what did you want?
a111: Logged on 2016-08-22 13:59 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-22#1526615 << my complaint is that it adds a meg of UNREADABLE and - largely UNTESTABLE (i do not have a VMS box, nor a machine with zsh or ksh, nor do i intend to , and i REFUSE to sign code that claims to run there , srsly wtf omfg) - and that it introduces massive turd, useless language m4, go and learn it, read the implementation
trinque: nah thing appears entirely political, in that it [appeared to have] enabled this maximal user freedom thing
☟︎ trinque: use whatever libs, whatever userland, and everything will magically work because democracy is a thing.
trinque: "hurd" was supposed to be the culmination of this
trinque: was *entirely* intentional in the way wave of human meat strategy is intentional
trinque: (and honestly, hurd? apt.)
trinque: doesn't discount the beardcrust factor either. "If we maximally shuffle the circumstances around us, surely *someone* will fuck us. Anything can happen."
trinque: sure it does, but someone had to think the user getting to do what he wants was a good thing first
trinque: asciilifeform: sometimes wave of meat is what ya got.
trinque: RMS, wrathful old testament god, confuses the language of the people to prevent another tower of Microshit from being built.
BingoBoingo: See also just about any small engine powered equipment part other than fuel line
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a111: Logged on 2017-04-04 12:28 mircea_popescu: phf the main objection to your quiet style is that now i can't discern whether you a) understood the arguments and are thinking about it ; b) simply didn't understand the arguments or c) understood what was said but didn't judge it any kind of argument. express yourself, don't repress yourself!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not much. magnetic field research is for some reason stuck in 1700
mircea_popescu: i vaguely remember some guy trying to do something along those lines re nuclear waste recycling
mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone takes carbon dating seriously. outside of the you know, "ring" so to speak. it's a trade secret of the substance and nature of wrestling storylines.
mircea_popescu: "oh, and you're really pissed at that guy ?" "yeah man totally. i hate that guy."
mircea_popescu: can't say as i have. by the age i was hanging out with the rave sluts i was no longer playing with magnets.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-04#1636999 << in theory this is how it should work ; in practice the sloppy git style does not work with the republican sig nuking. it'll just whine that "dependencies". basically, we're trying to get software from where it builds spirogyra strands to where it builds ACTUAL TREES.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-04-04 15:02 trinque: and if some idiot provides a vpatch that enables dbus, you simply do not use his key in .wot
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform talk about beta ingestion. i bet you the "diet" dorks eat more than shaves off my grinders.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-04#1637022 << yes, to a large degree the usage of the "tools" is more a function of the presence of the tools than of the presence of a need. just like while car is useful item, if you stop $random car occupant will not be able to explain what he's doing.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-04-04 15:46 asciilifeform: hey i deautoconfed gpg's mpi lib 100%
Framedragger: i understand, i just got scared like a little girl
a111: Logged on 2017-04-04 15:59 trinque: nah thing appears entirely political, in that it [appeared to have] enabled this maximal user freedom thing
mircea_popescu: and by people with no technical ability i mean the likes of ian murdock or rms. the lot of them, really.
mircea_popescu: (no, noticing a nail and going "oh, i remember hammer can hit nails" is NOT technical ability. a ditzy blonde / bright dog can do the fucking same. technical ability is when you can say ~use x, because no other tool is more adequate here~. that's technical fucking ability.)
mircea_popescu: so in idiots this decays to "what should i do here ?" "uh i dunno, but X is more friendly to our shared delusions of equality, humanism and our democracy!"
Framedragger: didn't rms implement emacs by ~himself? or that doesn't count?
mircea_popescu: ie, didja read the history, confront variants from multiple people ?
Framedragger: a port totally counts. however, as to your general point, no.
mircea_popescu: might be a fun weekend project, "establish rms emacs involvement", if you're bored one weekend.
mircea_popescu: make some claims, source the claims, insist the sourcing's balanced, you know, like serious court reporter say.
mircea_popescu: (i am not, for clarity, declaring he didn't anymore than i'm declaring he did. i personally dun gas.)
phf: well, since already spoilt, original emacs was written by a bunch of different people for TECO and long after rms became maintainer of that. then greenberg rewrote it in lisp (multics emacs)
phf: then gosling wrote a version of emacs for a unix machine, that was used by rms as the foundation for his emacs
mircea_popescu: phf my hm hasn't returned yet. what conditions are presupposed that anticipate the problem ?
phf: the need to not treat the binary as a black box and also the need for non-linear compilation
mircea_popescu: why is what i assume you mean by non-linear compilation presupposed ?
phf: i think the word you used was "unary"
mircea_popescu: yes, but this is not in reference to compilation. it's in reference to user space. i don't expect there's a magical function f, but that there's a plurality of f1..fi...fn, which can all be linear in principle.
mircea_popescu: and i suspect this goes to (one of the) roots of the argument : it is not broadly speaking sane for person writing code to expect that he knows what compiler user will use to produce object or machine code.
phf: well, the plurality makes it non-linear, of course each one can be linear
mircea_popescu: ok, but if you meant it in that sense i no longer see how it anticipates the very problem.
mircea_popescu: (to continue link above : the prb idiocy "oh code is spec" is not invented by the idiots for this occasion. it's universally at the basis of contemporaneous cs, and it's all permeating. it stars with the expectation that you can tell whether the code you wrote is correct BY WHETHER THE MACHINE WORKS. this is utter fucking nonsense!111 appealing to tweens, perhaps, but still nonsense.)
phf: the problem broadly speaking is that our solution to trust is "read the source code", in order to trust compiler you read the source code of the compiler. the trust chain terminates at bootstrapping. you can't "just" bootstrap on an untrusted system, you have to enumerate defensive approaches
mircea_popescu: yes, and the objection to this is that you for some reason refuse the cornerstone of management, which is the differential approach.
mircea_popescu: to try and resolve it : do you believe i could be a successful genovese merchant if i couldn't add ?
phf: i didn't understand previous sentence, so i refuse to be led down a path towards a trap :p
phf: what's the differential approach?
mircea_popescu: where i tell two people to do the same thing and compare the results.
mircea_popescu: i can judge whether an egg is rotten or not without being a hen myself. i can tell which kids aren't worth bothering with though i'm no mother "and i don't understand them like she does" etcetera.
phf: i don't ~refuse~ it, i'm saying that differential approach is ~required~ because there's a problem. otherwise there'd be no need for an approach. i don't think it matters that approach is already presant for other purposes
mircea_popescu: there's no dispute whatsoever then. except maybe for this much : that problem is a problem in the sense thermic death is a problem. always and everywhere without let or respite.
mircea_popescu: but to a large degree i can predict what the ailments of the women naked on the floor will be as time withers them.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-04 16:07 asciilifeform: 'gotta support 10,001 incompatible but otherwise equivalent shits' is a serious hell. it plagued armies in ww1 ('hey a trainload of ammo just came. but none of it fits our 7 types of rifle, it's all for that 8th'), the sov icbm forces ('we have parts but not for these 4 types of rocket, they are for 5th') etc
phf: i think i see why we got on this thread. i was saying that bootstrapping is always a counterparty problem. i missed that that's not the case for fits in head (i think ascii might've tried pointing that out to me).
mircea_popescu: i suspect it's mostly because we're thinking in yet not mutually understood terms.
phf: we were comming from the direction of debian on 10 cds though, so restating my original point: i think bootstrapping can be solved with counterparty as an alternative to fits in head, i.e. i don't mind an approach where in order to bootstrap i get a binary from l1, that i use as a rich subtrate from which i can bootstrap.
mircea_popescu: the adage "trust, but verify" works splendidly when enough people do enough spot checking.
mircea_popescu: the only problem is if they get lazy and turn into fly eyes.
mircea_popescu: but in practical terms, i don't check all the living space all the time. i check random spots at random times and if they're dirty somebody sleeps in a zebra costume. this method keeps the place well clean, and it's how management works. hence the discussion of genovese merchants etc.
mircea_popescu: it goes way the fuck earlier than that, the whole thing with clay stamps and ancient babylonians etc.
mircea_popescu: it's also strictly opposite to the "human rights" imbecility.
mircea_popescu: and the reason it doesn't matter is because it's impossible not to stumble on the one.
mircea_popescu: "spot check model doesn't mater, if there's phosgene in the air you're fucked" "yes, well, i think i might notice the phosgene. by you know, how the gals drop like flies."
mircea_popescu: we don't put pogos that way. if you recall, i wasn't for it then, either.
mircea_popescu: it is of no concern. we don't own the pipeline so we don't cement the products.
mircea_popescu: yes gpg can generate key. so can you. keep that in mind.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-31 18:09 mircea_popescu: actually i was thinking, im not going to hold another conference, because it's just not a sane opsec proposition. however, one fellow at a time coming down for a week or somesuch is more than tenable. what's airfare, fiddy bux ? pack up the missus an' come say hi.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-24 02:36 asciilifeform: veen: let's try a historical angle. according to legend, emperor qin shi huangdi (same d00d as known for taking the 'immortality pill' and promptly croaking) had a palace with 1,500 rooms. and would not tell anyone in advance which one he plans to sleep in on a given night. and which ones he would put cutthroats in, ready to kill anyone who opens door. think 'minesweeper.'
trinque: applies directly to present thread
mircea_popescu: (9yo mp actually did these determinations by hand. how about 2 vs 2 ? how about 1+1 vs 2 ? how about...)
phf: well, presumably all this only applies when you have fits in head. otherwise you have to fallback to counterparty
mircea_popescu: i will say, people tend to be amazed at what can fit in a head once proper trees are constructed for the fitting.
trinque: really mircea_popescu already did. "I lost a man using Debian machines today." not only do you know something about Debian, you know something about where he was. maybe not as much as you'd like, but you have some coordinates, and more importantly, if you don't suck, *you* aren't dead
mircea_popescu: in related story : i was walking with girl yesterday among this beautiful townlet. off one fence, an explosive arbust sent its POISON RED flowers. i examined it because curious, and decided it's actually some kind of cherry tree ?!?! right leaves, right petals except for the color, everything.
mircea_popescu: so today she asks, "But the question is, if that tree makes fruit, and they pretty much look like cherries... will you try one ?"
mircea_popescu: "no hon. i'm not the right age for self-testing anymore. that's more of a 16yo thing."
mircea_popescu: the funny part is that i suspect it's entirely lost on her as of yet who's gonna be tasting them.
mircea_popescu: what was i gonna say, "i know this guy, something-life-form" ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, the fundamental problem is that no one can know what they sign up for.
mircea_popescu: except of course if they're signing up for a job at the walmart.
phf: that's not what i signed up for when i was born
mircea_popescu: in related story : months ago, still in argentina, walked with girl past fence with arbust. beautiful white flowers with intoxicating aroma, like nicotiana alata on steroids.
mircea_popescu: so i break one off, smell it, handle it, we arrive at the coffee house, i put it into one of the water cups they serve with coffee. meet local girl, ask her if she knows what this beautiful flower is, she does not.
mircea_popescu: it was 100% datura. enough there for a medium sized book club.
mircea_popescu: (flowers are particularly iffy, in daturas as in most such weeds)
ben_vulpes: so i read a bit about datura, "moonflower, that sounds familiar...hey baby aren't you doing something with moonflower in the backyard this year?" "yeah! it's going to be beautiful" "..." "is this about how daturas are poisonous?" "..." "it's going in on the carport where dog and child can't get to it"
ben_vulpes: ah, no, point is that she's on top of things.
ben_vulpes: "yes honey, beautiful beautiful death, all over the carport"
mircea_popescu: and now i shall leave you for a typical mp ritual, whereby i line up all the shot glasses in the house, fill each with a different kind of mineral water and make the rules that'll dominate purchasing henceforth. brb.
ben_vulpes: oh fuck, "it may be an ideal fit for fundamentally different block designs such as Rootstock and MimbleWimble in absence of decentralised non-integrated sidechains"
shinohai: rootstock was the plan to add ethereum functions to btc
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: betcha it's better than the well water south of portland
ben_vulpes: i do miss one thing about my hometown; bull run reservoir produces un-fucking-matched agua
ben_vulpes: "bull run" is ferociously protected valley on mt. hood; combination of glacier runoff and rainfall on valley in q
shinohai: I have little faith they'll ever actually get a working product, rootstock has been endless blather on reddit for well over a year.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes do you recall the oglaf with "song of sword and saddle" or what was it
ben_vulpes: shinohai: if they don't have a rep in here, it's vaporware by default
mircea_popescu: re "ferociously protected". "we dun need no women on mt hood, stinking up the water supply with their womanly lyes and lures."
ben_vulpes: there are plenty of places to slime hood
ben_vulpes: just stay the fuck out of bull run valley
mircea_popescu: in other #trilema does my homework, can anyone explain wtf a "factory reset" that wipes the hdd would be ? windows speak for reinstall ?
ben_vulpes: > "The Rust Evangelism Strikeforce speculates on when they can move on to shitting up web development"
ben_vulpes: fuck, buddy, i didn't think it could get worse!
mircea_popescu: that's ok, the salaries have been slimming continuously. soon enough shinohai 's girls will be making more than paul graham's bois.
Framedragger: well, old 'dev' account for twitter app (don't ask); doesn't count
mircea_popescu: if anyone does, see if the n-gate dude wants to do a qntra weekly ? he sounds just about right.
Framedragger: oh god n-gate <-> qntra pipeline is so obvious in retrospect, why did nobody think of this!1
Framedragger: ok will drop an email to the chap if can find an address.
mircea_popescu: you're in scotland after all, what the hell do you care!!1
Framedragger: incidentally did eat canonical eng breakfast this morning; i should re-evaluate my life
shinohai: dafuq is that thing on the far right in that pic mircea_popescu ?
mircea_popescu: (old and therefore stupid cunt figured she's too good to go in the mud bare cunt, so she took a dress.)
shinohai: Looks like a half woman/ half grub emerging from a pond full of shit
ben_vulpes: pushing a particularly stubborn turd out
shinohai: errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh
mircea_popescu: wtf was david chapman supposed to have sold for "zillions of dollars" ?!
shinohai: I imagine its stock photo meself
mircea_popescu: "Google continues the war against their own users. The XMPP Memorial Society trades barbs about whose fault it is that a misdesigned overengineered shitshow of a protocol failed to gain traction amongst non-erlang enthusiasts. Every single messaging platform in current existence is held up as Obviously The Future. Hackernews tries to figure out what Google's master plan is, and why Google is working so hard to make it look li
mircea_popescu: ke aimless poorly-managed floundering. IRCv3 continues to be a retarded pile of solutions to the wrong problems."
shinohai: If it was a real girl they'd have to settle for someone like covertress I imagine.
mircea_popescu: Maximum Hackernews is achieved as the sentence "I am too stupid to understand the context of academic research" is expressed as "now if you implemented this as a web app, i'd be sharing it with everybody"
mircea_popescu: "The Muskonauts post their latest launch on Youtube. Hackernews thinks their kids will give a shit whether Elon recycled rockets. The hilarity of Hackernews expectations of the near future is not outweighed by the repetition of the typical Hackernews output on space travel: space is not worth exploring, yes it is, nobody will use this, yes they will, and then six thousand pages of bad economic theory."
mircea_popescu: this guy is fucking talented, it's almost like reading summaries produced by expert sluts! god. he's saving me a lot fo work!
shinohai: I love this one "Hackernews wants it to use TLS, the better to paste passwords into it without feeling bad."
a111: Logged on 2017-02-28 17:47 mircea_popescu: honestly i kinda lost interest once it was about shithead news.
Framedragger: one can appreciate the whatever-order derivative, tho / the writing style, yknow
Framedragger blows dust off old twitter bot account and uses some of that gas mask canister
shinohai: The twitter complaints are actually hilarious "Can we stop linking to the n-gate HN stuff? The author's just generically contemptuous rather than having any real insight into HN culture"
mircea_popescu: if memory serves hearn was also merit washed as "something or the other" engineer at google.
mircea_popescu: pretty obvious alphabet co. maintains a whole department of "usg cover provisioning"
mircea_popescu: !!rate matthrew garret -10 "former klout expert on paul graham". irredeemable shithead.
shinohai: Yeah he was a Senior Software Engineer for the Alphabet agency xD
ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: you plan to fix your connection anytime soon?
shinohai: znc is too much necromancy for the lurkers
ben_vulpes: shinohai: the interesting thing from my pov is that he had a stable connection forever
mircea_popescu [tried to] watch emanuelle. holllllly shit pre-internet popculture is terrible.
mircea_popescu: shinohai meh, contracts. how the fuck is this supposed to work.
shinohai wanted to refer her to the Trilema article on the subject of contracts
mircea_popescu: we'll leave the "who takes on 50yo new slave" as a question for the ages.
shinohai: I suppose there was a shortage of youger, more nubile slaves in that particular region of Latin America.
ben_vulpes: there is also some tiny arbitrage opportunity available i must point out; lock up the contract and then sell her off into improper slavery
mircea_popescu: there's just about no way you'll beat the stupid out of her head before she croaks.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i dunno how much you partake of whores, but 50yos usually have to be special ordered.
mircea_popescu: think in terms of that cartoon re final cs class at stanford : "and you are the idiots who didn't get hired in 2nd or 3rd year". same deal, whoring is a fine plan for cut-above-rest 16yo. by the time she's 30 she's either married or too rich to care.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: 50yo whore is in a ditch somewhere, and her teeth in another ditch somewhere els.e
ben_vulpes: yeah i have nfi in re proper prostitutes
shinohai: Neither does Atlanta, you should see some of the land whales billing themselves as "High-class escorts"
shinohai: "What sort of meat does a priest eat on Friday?"
ben_vulpes: well if we're doing themes, i have my own set queued up
shinohai rather enjoyed ben_vulpes doggy selctions
ben_vulpes: well the joke is that there are tits on display and i'm looking at the vin
ben_vulpes: oh goddamn it this last one is buried in a megatonne of html horseshit
ben_vulpes: in "nothing actually has to be out for it to be insanely hot, honey"
ben_vulpes: perhaps someone else can identify that car
shinohai: Nice ben_vulpes I like a classic
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scriba: Logged on 2017-04-04: [22:45:47] <ben_vulpes> in "nothing actually has to be out for it to be insanely hot, honey"
mircea_popescu: in other sad stories, mp goes to very well appointed market, purchases litany of items. notices chunks of discounted cheese floating around in tub of iced water
mircea_popescu: the items were discounted 25% and now had been discounted 75%!
mircea_popescu: mp can not possibly resist buying 75% discounted cheese to find out why and wherefore it might have so offended the locals.
mircea_popescu: mp takes the item home, and over a dish of oyster mushrooms lightly sauteed opens up the TRIPLE WRAPPED!!111 thing.
mircea_popescu: there's no scent whatsoever. at all. no runny. no mold. the hunk of petrocheese is entirely undisturbed, as "fresh" as it was when it left the plant, five years ago or whatever.
shinohai: Is this some of the queso blanco popular in that area ?
shinohai: There is a Mexican lady here that makes best damned queso blanco I've ever had. I've already stocked up on like 3 wheels of it.
ben_vulpes: i never really figured out how one was supposed to shift while turning with paddles
ben_vulpes: in other ICE news, i got the drift slut sideways a few nights ago!
pete_dushenski: some cars (ferrari) have paddles mounted to the column so they're fixed regardless of wheel position. most others have the paddles fixed to the steering wheel proper and so they all move in unison. it's sort of a different strokes debate.
scriba: Logged on 2017-04-04: [22:45:47] <ben_vulpes> in "nothing actually has to be out for it to be insanely hot, honey"
ben_vulpes: to which the smarter of the girls in circulation sasses back with "well what makes /you/ so worth obeying?"
ben_vulpes: stern glares, and a mark under her name on the whiteboard
shinohai: Simple. Let them think they are in control and bleed all their money.
☟︎ pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: remind me, why's her name on the whiteboard to begin with ?
ben_vulpes: the bids and asks are all right there in the order book
a111: Logged on 2017-04-04 23:29 shinohai: Simple. Let them think they are in control and bleed all their money.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes | in other ICE news, i got the drift slut sideways a few nights ago! << nice! i'm guessing this was on pavement but have you tried gravel drifting ? (it's a ton of fun and the lowest speed way to practise left-foot-braking)
shinohai likes gravel drifting induced by ripping up handbrake at speed .....
pete_dushenski: though most cars of 'drift slut's' vintage have weakly engaging handbrakes unless it's been specifically addressed and repaired / replaced.
pete_dushenski: in other golden oldies, "Warren Buffett’s face will appear on cans of Cherry Coke in China, an attempt by Coca-Cola Co. to capitalize on its biggest and most famous investor."
BingoBoingo: In Qntra submitter guidance: If writing on fake news, Jeff Bezos has owned WaPo long enough to be namedropped as a Fake News Tycoon