a111: Logged on 2016-12-06 21:10 mircea_popescu: pretty sure the guy reads the log with some sort of frequency.
deedbot: zKawaiiKittyz voiced for 30 minutes.
zKawaiiKittyz: Jk, I came here for special purposes, nothing more :3
BingoBoingo: But introductions help make the world go round. Let's play a game. It's called Who is your daddy and what does he do?
trinque: "No one has ever asked me who I am before."
BingoBoingo: Anyways zKawaiiKittyz Here's a sample way to anwer the question: "My dad's a gynecologist, he looks at vaginas all day long"
trinque: same name is some kind of spam account on twitter
shinohai: A problem solved quite well by following the instructions within these hallowed walls.
zKawaiiKittyz: Well I can asue you I have no twitter with this name xD
trinque: so far your output has not differentiated yourself from it.
jurov: you are unable to say who/what are you :)
BingoBoingo: You never answered one of "Who are you" or "Who is your Daddy and what does he do?" Pick a question and answer it.
trinque finger hovers over the button
shinohai: Well at least he's not a tulpa.
trinque: "the internet is a place I make inane noises with other creatures to soothe myself"
trinque: got enough of those in logs
mircea_popescu: it's impossible to know, apparently the "hello i am joe of clan moe" is no longer taught in primary school.
deedbot: EDLionX voiced for 30 minutes.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-02 11:32 Framedragger: totally recommend it, even if my film-recommendation-credit has run dry
mircea_popescu: i've never seen more reluctant male even among the actual mongoloids.
EDLionX: im just trying to import me gpg to deedbot
EDLionX: but its confusing the heck outta me
EDLionX: oh man thats even more condusing
EDLionX: im submitting my key to deebot
EDLionX: but it keeps telling me this:
EDLionX: Import failed for EDLionX.
deedbot: EDLionX is already registered.
EDLionX: now howd u know where im from
shinohai: Lulziest headline of today "Pablo Escobar's former hitman robbed in Medellin"
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: is there an argument for vetoing out-of-hand a v/patch implementation that diffs at the sexpr level rather than the line level?
☟︎☟︎ Framedragger: BingoBoingo: in the merkel article, s/Germans having been taking/Germans have been taking/ ? :)
jurov: ben_vulpes: i'd definitely like to see such thing. otherwise i don't get this obsession with marking stuff "halal" and "haram".
jurov: and preemptively, even more so.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi who beil cybart is ; but the article in question is spun copy, a notch under of the conceptual value of fanfiction and about on par with wikipedia articles.
mircea_popescu: anyway ; intel knows him, "one of the more accurate predictors of apple's earnings" ; guy's been announcing "apple building new company" bla bla for a year
mircea_popescu: more's the point : whatcha mean with the haram halal thing jurov ?
jurov: that everything must be categorized as forbidden or allowed
jurov: if it works for you, cool. every time i tried to forbid somehing, turned out I was the fool.
shinohai: We forbid you to forbid things.
jurov: what reasoning? on basis of experience, i concluded it won't work
jurov: There's also possibility I misunderstood ben_vulpes, ofc.
mircea_popescu: well... what was he declaring haram ? i'm confused on that part.
jurov: "vetoing out-of-hand a v/patch implementation that diffs at the sexpr level rather than the line level"
mircea_popescu: ahahaha i thought you meant that apple pr piece, i was totally lost here.
mircea_popescu: well, technically he asked alf, so there is that. none of our bidnis :D
☟︎ jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 05:28 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: is there an argument for vetoing out-of-hand a v/patch implementation that diffs at the sexpr level rather than the line level?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 13:23 mircea_popescu: soo... anyone want to sell me bitcoin for $100 paypal ? o.O
davout: #trilema, the temple of bitcoin finance
mircea_popescu: anyway, the way "tech" works in the us aka sv is very simply : get the "hipster ass rorbros" on the wagon, then sell them out later for mass market.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: kinda the deep reason smart people are so very hesitant to join anything. which is all the better - a divided elite is how the plebs get to pretend they matter.
mircea_popescu: just like men clean up their kitchen to ensure their survival, just so fungi dirty up the kitchen, to ensure THEIR survival, and of the rats, cockroaches and other elements of the same ecosystem.
mircea_popescu: passive niche support is what the game is all about, because indirect effects overwhelm direct effects in nature.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: nice message and all, but just fyi #bitcoin-otc seems still alive
mircea_popescu: i couldn't care less, but sum up the trades for the day, do they come to $100 ?
Framedragger: (well, 'alive' as in there are nyms logged in.)
Framedragger: i've joined about the time you asked about ppusd, getting reminded via nostalgia. there was no interaction as of yet :p
Framedragger: i'm just sayin', you didn't try hard enough :p
mircea_popescu: i'm sorry, i can't hear you over the sound of worthless dollars sloshing around. what was that ? i didn't... try hard enough to find the real place where they don't have meat in exchange for rubles ?
Framedragger: i mean, it does seem pretty pathetic... plus, yknow, pay-"call me / charge me back some time"-pal
mircea_popescu: moreover... why do you think a company would take bitcoin, but refund in fiatola ?
mircea_popescu: oh wait, the divisibility fallacy ? "the rat doesn't eat because the mouth doesn't hold on to any food!" ?
mircea_popescu: mno. all fiat companies are the same company, call it the united states department of business fronts.
mircea_popescu: that they picked a specialist which handles bitcoin storage is not germane ; the rat also picked a specialist which handles the fats cycle, called a liver. this doesn't mean the rat dun eat, nor does it mean charcoal is cheese or vice-versa.
mircea_popescu: the rat's preference for cheese over charcoal is dispositive in the matter.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why not ? if bitcoin were weaker than fiat ?
mircea_popescu: you always want to pay in silver and be paid in gold. that's the rule ; that "nobody knows it" has little bearing.
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-07#1578953 << just fyi, while you can diff an intermediate ~state~ of an image as a sexp, common lisp's input is a ~character stream~. builtin dispatch ~mostly~ operates on forms (like #p #. (concatenate 'string "foo" "bar")), but not always, like #\; comment reads till end of line.
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 05:28 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: is there an argument for vetoing out-of-hand a v/patch implementation that diffs at the sexpr level rather than the line level?
mircea_popescu: the notion is not so unlike "what if we diffed asts". it's a bad idea because now you want the "encoding".
diana_coman: !!rate EDLionX 1 hard-working euloran noob
diana_coman: !!v 16E921C9EED8785749555E4189246AD80F3C8D73B85238CB53B861E5E208B760
deedbot: diana_coman rated EDLionX 1 << hard-working euloran noob
mircea_popescu: !!rate EDLionX One of the sharpest Eulora noobs to date.
mircea_popescu: !!rate EDLionX 1 One of the sharpest Eulora noobs to date.
mircea_popescu: !!v 4E6B41AE30C2330D39F52ADE1A1C6553A9BA155B81D14BB865C6D452AD6D29CA
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated EDLionX 1 << One of the sharpest Eulora noobs to date.
mircea_popescu: part of all of this - "asciilifeform" "framedragged" will be permanently associated with "a list of derpy boxes" huh.
mircea_popescu: speaking of fiat world : citibank had a branch in brunei since 1972 ; it was closed in 2014. hsbc is closing down. guess who received permission to open this spring ?
mircea_popescu: eh who's letting the soviets in. no, no. bank of china.
phf: oh i was going to say cbc next
phf: "This is part of the group’s global review of businesses and represents a significant step in HSBCs goal to optimise its global network and reduce complexity outlined during the HSBC Investor Update on June 9, 2015." "optimise and reduce" huh
mircea_popescu: phf first they kicked out the us then the brits (historically colonial owner)
mircea_popescu: nato reich gradually being ghettoized, i dunno who the fuck will swallow this theory whereby you actually want to move banking out of brunei. what, world's richest state ? mmkay.
mircea_popescu: you kidding, brunei has its own army! three companies! and own navy! five frigatges!
phf: "reduce group risk weighted assets by about US$290 billion" ... "we will be selling our operation in Turkey. We’ll also be selling our operation in Brazil, but plan to maintain a modest corporate banking presence to serve about 300 international clients in Brazil. We are actually going to keep Mexico" ... "So we moved away from the World’s Local Bank" ... "We’ve exited 15 countries, reducing from 87 to 73 so far, and whole lines of
phf: business exits – for example retail banking in Thailand – in 10 more countries."
mircea_popescu: meanwhile the us still pretends it doesn't know who or what the icbc is, as discussed last year and etc
mircea_popescu: "apple COULD buy russia ; meanwhile icbc bought south america"
mircea_popescu: and as per the "Won't fucking yield" disbelief, they'll go to their shallow grave kicking and screaming about how great the reich is and how black women matter or some dorkage.
mircea_popescu: there's exactly nothing that'd keep them from coming here and giving away the nuclear button to the l1. yes we'd butcher some daughters / most sons, but so what of it - some'd survive. even the cod knows this much, that the correct reaction is to throw the meat at the knife, rather than to try and protect it.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: actually, post leningrad. correct move would have been conditional surrender mid august 1942.
mircea_popescu: THE MOMENT you slate august 9th for lavish banquet at astoria, YOU THEREBY ALSO slate unconditional surrender in any other case.
phf: Апатия истаявшей свечи... \ Все перечни и признаки сухие \ Того, что по-ученому врачи \ Зовут «алиментарной дистрофией» \ И что не латинист и не филолог \ Определяет русским словом «голод».
mircea_popescu: glod, evidently cognate, is "dirt" in romanian. not so much as the generative mud but as unwelcome dirt.
pete_dushenski: why kidlington ? close enough to london, quiet enough to be affordable, clean air, safe. what else could a pekingian want ?
mircea_popescu: THEY WONT FUCKING YIELD. exactly 0 approach for the actual issues involved, no you can't own your body, no you can't want actualities ; please consider THIS approach to a purely symbolic relationship with reality. oh, "imagining yourself as a 3yo" won't do it for you ? ok, ok, there's other layers of indirection available! pick one! YOU MUST PICK ONE!
mircea_popescu: must has indirection! java good asm bad ; unicode good ascii bad ; usd good bitcoin bad ; "signal" "tor" whatever good rsa pgp etc bad and so on it goes.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: in brunei, porn is forbidden, fucking your wife is not ; in the us porn is acceptable, "marital rape" is a thing.
mircea_popescu is persuaded the whole story with imperial ideology is the mandatory indirection layer.
mircea_popescu: imagine, you're not allowed to pick up a woman and fuck her ; you're required to pay someone to pick women and fuck them and film the process and pass it to you!
mircea_popescu: "professionalization" amirite. division of labour, am i rite. high tech!!!1
mircea_popescu: "could i have cubic sphere with this ?" "sure, why the fuck not." "ah ok then"
mircea_popescu: the amusing part being that given indirection layer, cubical sphere is entirely possible.
mircea_popescu: however implemented ; it is after all why it's an indirection layer - so it lies.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski maybe they were confused as to how "kid lick ton" translates into chinese ?
mircea_popescu: the chinese don't have the soviet problem with sharia law from what i've seen.
mircea_popescu: after argentina experience /me puts no value in room counts.
mircea_popescu doesn't want to hear about how irrelevant island thinks itself special, "we don't use measurements here"
phf: huuh two thirds of these ana recommendations are basic food hygiene, and how i've been eating for most of my life. the rest is a bit over the top, but doesn't look particularly bad
mircea_popescu: phf yes but i ignore those. the "be naked eating and watch yourself" thing is the clincher to my eyes, because WHEN the fuck does empire advise nudity ? never, not in "feel your boobs" public literature even
mircea_popescu: and moreover, when the fuck is it "try AND SEE what happens" a criteria ? no, the excuses are always there, "marks are so unfair" blabla.
mircea_popescu: but that said - the article is plainly indicative of psychopatology of the systematizing persuasion ; whether it's actually clinically relevant or subclinical will have to be decided by the clinician attending the case.
phf: well, right, even if the practices are solid the "and see" part is not going to work, because seeing is broken
mircea_popescu: which is kind-of the point of this entire anorexia/bulimia thing : the subjective misperception.
mircea_popescu: it's just therapy is almost never successful because it is almost never willing to address the actual core of the problem - which is society, specifically, the impossibility of intelligent youth controlling things.
phf: right, the healers in the comments are basically happy inmates, telling her that everything's going to be ok as long as she sticks to prescribed pill regiment
mircea_popescu: the sad truth of the matter is the mp trilemma. which reads like so :
mircea_popescu: you can have youths with two of three : a) "civilised world" native ; b) intelligent and c) not self-harming.
mircea_popescu: the exact nature of c) is often obscure ; but there are no exceptions.
phf: (i had a good result with a scale before. "here's a scale, write your weight daily in this calendar, in fucking killos, what the fuck" then every single complaint is brought back to the data, if actually intelligent start noticing disparity. "i'm FAAAT but the weight went down by a killo in the past two months, wtf" etc)
mircea_popescu: well if it worked then you could install a laughmeter on their ipad and any complaint of unhappiness would similarly be referred to the graph.
mircea_popescu: in your own terms : the problem is hidden under the definition of "intelligence" ; now intelligent has been re-defined to mean "whatever it meant before + good response to the scale method"
mircea_popescu: whereas my intelligence is defined very much in low bio terms, as an antonym to sluggishness. entirely to how you score "lively" colts and puppies.
mircea_popescu: "People who have never had an eating disorder won't understand and yet they still feel the need to comment on people telling them they are wrong well no, we arent. I had an eating disorder and it was the most happiest I had ever been, the thought of not eating and not even being bothered was good, I was in control of something and things were how I wanted them to be, I was happy and now I'm over that I'm not happy I hate myse
mircea_popescu: lf I've put weight on and it was the worst thing that I have done and all for making other people happy!! If people are happy to starve themselves or make themselves sick then leave them be we dont need petty sly comments of people who have no idea what they are talking about."
mircea_popescu: "you'll die" "so will you" "yes but i'll die happy" "so will i". go ahead and settle the dispute, good heavens.
mircea_popescu: because as it is commonly the case, the only people who should still be here are the ones who died already.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, much to my vague meh, nobody seems to have caught on and started a study in terms of "modern domestic terrorists, medieval flagellants"
mircea_popescu: the similarities are striking, but i guess no humanities scholars left.
trinque knows a person who owns a weimaraner, thing paces in her back yard back and forth between back door and window so much there's no grass in the path, has various other compulsions
☟︎ trinque: in valhalla, it hunts bear
mircea_popescu: "whadda ya mean walk this dog means, 20+ miles! nobody can walk 20 miles!"
mircea_popescu: exact same conceptual framework, what with prinz karl erschinen etc.
BingoBoingo: AHA, no not mine. Found on a "How not to do it" thread.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Anyways interesting detail was the giant hole in the foreground right next to the piers
BingoBoingo: Not pliers, piers! The stacks of brick holding up the steel beams set on concrete piles from which surrounding dirt has been washing away.
BingoBoingo: That poor house is set to become something other than level in a period of time that depends on local rainfall.
jhvh1: shinohai: Current Blocks: {"blockcount":442390} | Current Difficulty: {"difficulty":286765766820.5504} | Next Difficulty At Block: None | Next Difficulty In: None blocks | Next Difficulty In About: None | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: lol. ANyways crawlspace is a way to put house on foundation. Crawlspace on slope is way to develop lot that will require debris removal during resale.
phf: i recently finished reading olympus/ilium scifi series by dan simmons, where one of the lines is Achilles becoming immortal (in the unable to die sense) because Paris is killed before he can deliver the arrow
mircea_popescu: did it have to be paris specifically for some reason ?
phf: well, it being a scifi series achilles's immortality is one of the ways in which "quantum probability" something something "destruction of known universe"
mircea_popescu: funny (to me) how often "destruction fo known x" is an ontological rather than gnoseological matter.
phf: probably because the first one can be imagined and verbalized, where's the second one once understood for what it is already happened. doesn't allow for much action, with shooting and adventures and stuff
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 16:42 mircea_popescu: must has indirection! java good asm bad ; unicode good ascii bad ; usd good bitcoin bad ; "signal" "tor" whatever good rsa pgp etc bad and so on it goes.
ben_vulpes: "i gave up on understanding processors a while ago"
ben_vulpes: "you know, if you can squeeze a tenth of a percent of a performance increase out of their chips over the course of your career there, you'll be sitting pretty with that dumptruck of printolade showing up at your house every two weeks!"
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 12:33 mircea_popescu: well, technically he asked alf, so there is that. none of our bidnis :D
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 14:31 asciilifeform: if the next lappy comes with spiked anal cone, what, ben_vulpes won't buy?
ben_vulpes: by that time i think the coolies will be responsible for their own hardware, not me.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 14:50 phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-07#1578953 << just fyi, while you can diff an intermediate ~state~ of an image as a sexp, common lisp's input is a ~character stream~. builtin dispatch ~mostly~ operates on forms (like #p #. (concatenate 'string "foo" "bar")), but not always, like #\; comment reads till end of line.
trinque: clearly lisp comments are borken!
trinque kids, various other reader macros also violate the homoiconicity
phf: trinque: go write scheme, infidel
phf: ben_vulpes: yeah, lisp image. fwiw if you're trying to ignore whitespace (since you're going to lose that information in a sexp, unless you preserve that information, in which case you will have to patch it same way), then diff already does it: it's called ignore whitespace (-b or -w or -B depending on usecase)
ben_vulpes: is there a difference between ignoring whitespace and only examining the forms that changed?
trinque: sounds like it'd produce a patched item that is formatted incorrectly, which would suck
phf: well, it's fundamentally different things, but for your purposes it'll be different when there's information in whitespace. like say it's a form that has text in it, and you modify text inside that form, ec.
phf: for all other cases it'll ignore the lines that have whitespace changes, but if you make a change that has whitespace change on one line, and then substantial change on another line, that relies on new whitespace, then yeah you get borked formatting
trinque: really, it's true that all those lines whose whitespace changed *did change*
trinque: their return will now be run through some other form, or now not, or whatever
trinque: same thing happens in well formatted C, if you say add an "if" where one was not
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, local power co notifies me that "in order to continue providing high level of services" etc they'll be installing a gasoline backup generator, which will result in two "very short" power interruptions.
mircea_popescu: ostensibly they'll park theirs right next to mine, we can get a diesel generator burning tailgate party going
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suppose people who aren't me complained ? honestly i was half expecting they're actuallyoffering to buy mine.
mircea_popescu: (argentina being one of the few places where used machinery is valued above same machinery new, perhaps on a derivation of the medieval "woman with children worth more, proven functional cuntperl implementation", it might even have made business sense to sell it.)
mircea_popescu: phf nevertheless, it does say "AS WE KNOW IT". clearly it's a knowledge problem not a being problem neh.
mircea_popescu: "my mom as i knew her died the moment she hooked up with her old associates and went back to stripping."
mircea_popescu: moreover, v is about people and therefore it must work on the closest-to-people juncture.
phf: ben_vulpes: i don't know how to solve that problem, but "i know, sexp will help us!" is not. you basically need to redesign a bunch of things about reader, have a custom save format (that will look closer to (DEFUN FOO () (IF BAR QUX (PROGN ...)))). sexp nature will help you ~a bit~, but like mp said it's closer to "let's save AST", because sexp don't preserve nearly enough required info
☟︎ mircea_popescu: society would be better served if buttslappers stuck to slapping butts
mircea_popescu: rather than being chased into... intellectual pursuits.
phf: asciilifeform: i've seen people diff sexps for producing semi-automatic patches of live system. so like if you want to replicate the image code state across machines, can rig up some not-for-reading dumper
phf: that one warms my heart for sentimental reasons
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform pity the thelema doods didn't put a card spade inside their figure, it'd have been a great gypsy-like icon
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-07#1579309 << the amusing observation lying in wait is that the difference between satoshi-style design and tmsr-style design evidently is that in the case of the former a prototype is hashed out and then much to everyone's surprise almost all ulterior ideas are actual improvements ; wheres in the case of hte later a prototype is similarly hashed out and then much to everyone's surprise almost a
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 22:11 phf: ben_vulpes: i don't know how to solve that problem, but "i know, sexp will help us!" is not. you basically need to redesign a bunch of things about reader, have a custom save format (that will look closer to (DEFUN FOO () (IF BAR QUX (PROGN ...)))). sexp nature will help you ~a bit~, but like mp said it's closer to "let's save AST", because sexp don't preserve nearly enough required info
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 21:46 ben_vulpes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-07#1579050 << "image" as in "lisp image"? the reason i ask is because reindenting blocks of code for a multiple-value-bind makes unnecessary patch noise.
phf: mircea_popescu: i really hope i'm not preventing ben_vulpes from hacking, i have a few previous failed attempts at doing this though
mircea_popescu: not so, according to knowledge that i guess may have expired meanwhile.
mircea_popescu: most of the honest (as oposed to gavinous) people originally involved with the project went away quietly.
mircea_popescu: for instance, everyone thinks of theymos as "tardstalk owner", except that forum was made by sirius ; and was quite acceptable before it went to shit.
phf: ben_vulpes: that archive has like dozen of access points, half of them regularly disappearing, a project for a lisp aficionado would be to archive it before it disappears completely
☟︎ ben_vulpes: wow cool 2 assignments in as many seconds
mircea_popescu: built on "trust", the non-crypto, anon version of trust.
mircea_popescu files the "mp again picked the right horse" and forgets "internet archive" even existed.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 16:04 mircea_popescu: there's exactly nothing that'd keep them from coming here and giving away the nuclear button to the l1. yes we'd butcher some daughters / most sons, but so what of it - some'd survive. even the cod knows this much, that the correct reaction is to throw the meat at the knife, rather than to try and protect it.
mircea_popescu: not so. what if i happen to be running the first and you end up my main bitch ?
mircea_popescu: amusingly, ~none of the early bright minds are rich now.
mircea_popescu: wasn't the prb devteam announcing dismal holdings last they talked about it ?
mircea_popescu: buterin was circling bitcoin (as an outsider) a coupla years before you showed up. where's his millions ?
mircea_popescu: same repeats for all the various bright minds in their own / reddit's estimation.
mircea_popescu: the problem with smart kids who have the misfortune to be born to english speaking whores is that they're taught to not want to rape anything.
mircea_popescu: what sort of idle knowledge this is and whom it serves we shall not discuss ; but it does make them inept for life.
mircea_popescu: i did say any~thing~. they're ecologists, they just want to imagology.
mircea_popescu: none of that last century "by god i will dig this mountain up and reshape it as a pineapple" piss and vinegar feelin' left.
mircea_popescu: "gotta get along", "will take a picture of me in front of this strangely pineapple-shaped mountain" etc.
mircea_popescu: but they also don't perceive any burning need to spend all their money on $2 btc.
mircea_popescu: quoth the woman "my children are dying!" quoth the man "good, you'll make others."
mircea_popescu: because... let this sink in, ~~~BECAUSE~~~ the alt-turds offered a ready, indefeasible excuse to NOT seriously invest, to the degree of starving the children.
mircea_popescu: unthreateningly, "coupla bucks, who knows" is the exact name of the demon.
mircea_popescu: the discussion here was from the get-go limited to "engineering" "intellectual" "bright minds".
mircea_popescu: i have no interest in the misguided speculations of reddit as such, they're not a demographic as much as a random number machine.
mircea_popescu: this isn't one of those west coast things that'll burn down in a final, desperate attempt of the participants to make the evening news, is it ?
mircea_popescu: "burning man" suddenly a lot more psychanalizable than one'd care to.
mircea_popescu: "In 2003, massive cabals of Enviro-whiners are suing petroleum companies for contaminating the global environment with methyl tert-butyl ether. MTBE was the "oxygenate" for which Enviro-whiners massively sued petroleum companies, demanding it be added to gasoline. MTBE is an EPA priority carcinogen. Enviro-whinerism: expensive, shoddy, deadly." << quite exactly how the bullshit works, and worked, in all parts.
phf: asciilifeform: they are popular at dodgy events, because "only copy"
mircea_popescu: the argument is not without some merit, legions of 1960s aspie hos were flattered by the "unique, just like you" gate to pornography.
phf: well, sell polaroid-with-seeeekrit-digicam destroy that whole segment
phf: actually promisetronic to the max, since you don't even have to surrender the photo. something about the Polaroid part implies that you're not live streaming it to pornhub
mircea_popescu: summary : "guy with no business model and no investors running some pointless web shit claims to make 10k a month from it somehow"
mircea_popescu: (basically delicious re-done, and we all recall how that went. or no wait, was it magnolia ? right it was magnolia. anyway.)
phf: he's got "sign up for $11/year" so if he has 11000 paying subscribers?
mircea_popescu: note that a) facebook doesn't have 11k paying subscribers ; and that yahoo sacked delicious. it's rare dying things like yahoo terminate items that make money.
mircea_popescu: heck, if they LOSE money slower than the whole shebang loses money the people involved tend to be promoted
mircea_popescu: such is the rule at say alphabet ; microsoft ; etcetera.
mircea_popescu: that said, he does have stroing support in the sprawling i-wanna-be-a-writer collective, which may actually contain 10k who can part with $10 a year (if not the same 10k each year, still) ; and if he keeps a tight lid on costs it may well work.
mircea_popescu: phf i suspect the entire business model is "get archive.is for pay because you don't google too well".
mircea_popescu: "but we did fix most of it" AHAHAHAHAHA omfg. name ONE THING mulatto-in-chief fixed. i wish to hear this wonder, the one item.
mircea_popescu: leftards always go in general about bahamas. name the fucking item he did right, ever. what was it.
mircea_popescu: "Most people in the world are good, and want to be good to each other. Whether they vote that way or not, far more Americans believe in progressive, liberal, inclusive views than regressive, aggressive, conservative ones. Young people know this better than anyone, because young people are overwhelmingly liberal, even more than older people. That’s not because you’re inexperienced — it’s because you’re right." << hur
mircea_popescu: r. it is STRICTLY because young people lived on the dole much more than old people ; and so believe more in dole. many of them for complete lack of any understanding whatsoever that "milk doesn't come from supermarket" and equivalent.
mircea_popescu: phf asciilifeform as per your understanding of folk logic, could Кощей have kept the needle anywhere ?
phf: probably not, requires a descent/ascent into the cave for the development of hero's journey. so couldn't keep it in his private study or kept some complicated opsec routine with fake needles and multiple storages and rotations, because that would take it out of realm of mythical
mircea_popescu: my idea is that it being an ontology (as distinct from and very much opposed to a technology) such is entirely out of the question.