mircea_popescu: phf i'm sitting here trying to come up with something but i'm sitting here trying to come up with something but i'm sitting here trying to come up with something but...
a111: Logged on 2013-07-22 16:00 Scrat: ☭ bcstats
mircea_popescu: talk to shinohai Framedragger pete_dushenski who else had a bot
mod6: "sign up for phree!" eat my balls.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi how they figure trump's gonna be printing for this.
mircea_popescu: "m&a market" in the sense of bullshit "tech companies" of the software ilk is looking at a 99% contraction in 2017.
mircea_popescu: do you know what software m&a market was in 2016, or 2015, or any point, so you can compare ?
ben_vulpes: whatever, crunchbase took 2 seconds to return a page, i killed the process
mircea_popescu: actually apparently... crunchbase no longer actually works ?
ben_vulpes: but lookie at the mircea_popescu citing sv's own propaganda machine
mircea_popescu: hey, at issue is relations between stalin and hitler. propaganda is valid sauce.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: try livejournal, i eat livejournal urls
ben_vulpes: lj never took 2 seconds to return a simple html page...
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: anonymous web properties have authors now?
ben_vulpes: i never saw a signed anything, couldn't possible say "who" "did" anything
ben_vulpes: shotgun blasts of capital don't really count for "made"
ben_vulpes: ah, the spontaneous generation argument
ben_vulpes: no individual may be credited with leaking printolade. it -- leaks.
ben_vulpes: absolutely sole purpose is to render savings moot.
ben_vulpes: whether the investors made the tin woman, obvs
mircea_popescu: is heroku anything more than a pretentious website and a few dozen boxes rented in a dc somewhere ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: omg hate speech as if to assume they even have their own boxes!
ben_vulpes: entire thing runs atop bezos' virtu-staxx
phf: afaik heroku invented the whole "container" thing, i.e. instead of oldfag unixing you have a thing with many slots, that takes ruby code, provides postgresql, etc. so that you don't actually need to know anything outside of your rails world
phf: ben_vulpes: it is rather unfortunate how much time i wasted "following along", i know things now
ben_vulpes considering "deskilling" the entire mobile-app "api server" with judicious compilation of libpq
phf: nah, i'm pretty sure it was during my 6 months
mircea_popescu: and it also goes re "trade". yes the brits experienced a period of "hey, trade creates wealth". guess what - it created out of burning china's empire. spain idem. and the portuguese too.
mircea_popescu: this whole "trade will make social problems go away" is just another "we'll feed ourselves with our own plaque".
deedbot: Garmin voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: speaking of above article, can i get a commitment to never signing any V material which includes any non-ascii characters ? BingoBoingo diana_coman hanbot trinque mod6 danielpbarron mircea_popescu mike_c asciilifeform davout ben_vulpes phf jurov
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: as far as i know it's all clean to date, which is why this discussion didn't spring naturally
mircea_popescu: but maybe time to make the point that this cleanliness is not coincidental.
a111: Logged on 2015-10-31 16:22 phf: but i'm not talking about diff specifically, i'm saying that whatever decissions are being made about diff now are going to influence the kind of work we'll have to do in the future
a111: Logged on 2015-10-31 16:24 phf: some hypothetical b-a os and internal consistency of the whole model. if you say "we support utf-8" here, you're also saying "we support unicode x.y" everywhere
phf: we had a thread when diff was first discussed as a way to do patches (i think maybe before even v), where i was erring on the side of no unicode support on the grounds that if we decide to support unicode we have to, to borrow asciilifeforms, drink the whole spittoon
☟︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-11-29 14:43 phf: we had a thread when diff was first discussed as a way to do patches (i think maybe before even v), where i was erring on the side of no unicode support on the grounds that if we decide to support unicode we have to, to borrow asciilifeforms, drink the whole spittoon
mircea_popescu: in principle there is a strong argument to say "alphabet size = machine word size" even if this didn't hold on pre-8 bit machines. and consequently you ~could~ have a type string that always takes 4 bytes and represents whatever the fuck. the problem is that this gives you a 400% memory allocation bloat for that type of string.
mircea_popescu: so then people will try and optimize that, and what people mean by "optimize" is always "here, i'll take the cream, you do the work for me".
mircea_popescu: yes, this would be very close to the lisp model of variables anyway.
mircea_popescu: but the technical problems aren't at issue here - it's the sociocultural compact of the deliberately-ignorant that are the issue.
mircea_popescu: or more generally, can't have static solutions to process problems.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, no signing of V material containing non-ascii characters, agreed
trinque has no love for it either, agreed.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> speaking of above article, can i get a commitment to never signing any V material which includes any non-ascii characters ? BingoBoingo diana_coman hanbot trinque mod6 danielpbarron mircea_popescu mike_c asciilifeform davout ben_vulpes phf jurov << I commit to never signing any V material with non-ascii characters.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the "doesn't matter cycles are cheap" happens to be exactly the gavin argument.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-29 14:54 asciilifeform: ants come every summer? thus also comes the anteater.
jurov: if 8th bit set makes you barf, i'll take care not to. otherwise, idgaf.
diana_coman programmed (briefly) long time ago for a French open-source company; with azerty keyboard + unicode support because "clients" mostly French public sector entities -> after that initial experience (in fairness the unicode part was but a very small part of it - the bulk was the overall nonsense of the "endeavours") I just stopped programming all together (I got back into it years later mainly because ...eulora)
diana_coman: like all stops, it was but a break I suppose; even if a ...hmmmm, 10 years break sort of thing
jurov: % diff barf.txt barf2.txt
jurov: Not that need it for anything important.
danielpbarron: diana_coman, same here. stopped coding till eulora
danielpbarron: which btw i'm gonna figure out a way to automate storage procedures like withdrawing in bulk and mixing
danielpbarron: i've done it manually so many times now, i know the procedure. just need to hook it up to the appropriate levers
diana_coman: danielpbarron, automating storage retrieval/mixing would be great and it's sorely needed; for starters maybe have a look at the code in botstorage.cpp as that one deals with storage (it was used by an earlier version of the bot to get the ingredients directly from storage)
mircea_popescu: i keep doing these (7971 × 0.09 + 2011 × 4.26)÷(7971+2011) calculations
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phf: huh, i thought those guys knew better
trinque grunting out a few things of his own
phf: right, that ips is around 250
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mats: '“We entered [Syria] to end the rule of the tyrant al-Assad who terrorizes with state terror. [We didn’t enter] for any other reason,” the Turkish president said at the first Inter-Parliamentary Jerusalem Platform Symposium in Istanbul, as quoted by Hurriyet daily.'
mats: 'Erdogan said that Turkey could not “endure” the unending killing of civilians and “had to enter Syria together with the Free Syrian Army.”'
mats: humanitarians, the lot of em
trinque notices that kurds are in the middle of the russian and turkish pincers
mircea_popescu: so the genocide of the future will be in the name of peace and ending tyranny ?
trinque: "they told me I could do anything, be anyone, so I drank champagne with my ass."
mats: TIL obama assisted syrian rebels with acquiring sarin, and then blamed assad for it when used in the field
☟︎ mats: i haven't seen seymour hersh discredited yet
mats: half a dozen chix go public with 'hersh raped me when i was 9'
mats: hersh has also reported on joint chiefs of staff subverting potus on .sy matters, because his obsession with deposing assad is leaving behind hundreds of thousands of dead syrians
mats: same fella that reported on the my lai massacre, no less, this reads as credit - to me
trinque: makes me think this is a jihadi decimation strategy, if you can call it that.
trinque: create meat grinders, air raid them, repeat
trinque: no disputing that either. the insane imperial mind may think it can create these, then erase when "no longer useful"
trinque: see: kurds, once "arm the freedom fighers" and now left to be smashed between Russians and Turks