mircea_popescu: in other lulz, i am pleased to report that firefox 45 has about a degree of magnitude more memory-related crashes than firefox 10.
hanbot: BingoBoingo> Aite, next time I go to the feria to look at kitchen utensils Imma have to bring a latina. "Evwerything on the table is a matched set you won't separate" my ass << fwiw, in my experience the SA chinese shops have actually usable knives/glassware/etc (not cast iron specifically tho), and are guaranteed not to pretensewall, or at least, not in the same manner.
☟︎ trinque: just got in from 3 generations of trinque partying all weekend.
trinque: dunno what these other idiots in shitlandia, but as for us, can gather 60 in one place and have a riot, end of world or not.
trinque will see y'all in the morn, there's a naked girl to be seen to
phf: trinque is a man of responsibility, checks on log on the way to naked girl
a111: Logged on 2018-05-31 21:40 phf: i remember seeing the archive.org version of the relevant page, but i think the correspond tar.gz was not in archive, and i gave up tryin to track it down
phf: apparently the reason i don't remember getting the archive is because there was no archive. "release ... is planned" "i'll publish ... before i do that ..."
mircea_popescu: this habit of "i'll publish" is on the record having killed more smart men than the police.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "If [unrelated insane nonsense], I'll publish my internal, MULE-free version, dubbed Emacs 19.2003. Before I do that, however, I need to know what you think of Emacs 20.3 -- mail me with your experiences."
mircea_popescu: "Part of the tech antifa." in case you didn't know there is such a thing.
lobbes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-23#1829073 << after some investigation it appears that either mysql and/or php is the issue. In other words, stopping the mysql server (thus killing mp-wp) yields the ability load static 'non-mp-wp' pages that otherwise timeout when the server is running
☝︎ lobbes: I'm going to try to get some server-side caching going. Though mysql error logs dun complain about lack of resources or anything, so I'm not 100% sure it'll help. And it's not like the Rockchip was running out of memory either (had over 1.5 GB of available RAM during the downage)
mircea_popescu: mysql already caches queries ; apache already caches queries ; your os already caches memory (and the disk already caches the disk) and THEN the processor already caches instruction pipelines
mircea_popescu: if you have slow mysql queries (always a possiblity, with cockamamie themes / handspun php etc), ask mysql about it, it'll know.
mircea_popescu: don't just throw caching layers at speed problems, this isn't the 90s anymore.
lobbes: makes sense. see I'm glad I came here before actually adding caching layers
mircea_popescu: every solution to a problem, in terms of medicine rather than shamanism, comes with a definition of the problem first and foremost.
mircea_popescu: if you've no idea ~what~ is slow, what are you going to do ? take pills ?
lobbes: this is very true. in the back of my head was this lingering 'maybe this'll magic all the problems away'. damn head cockroaches
mircea_popescu: you know ? the worst outcome of that approach is if it [seemed to] work.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck even cares if it ever gets fixed or not. the only point of interest, really, is ~what is it ?!?!~. teh thirst for knowledge.
lobbes: this is the point huh? Goal should really be to answer question of 'can mp-wp run on rockchip?'
mircea_popescu: well, answer something, at any rate. "i think this works but i have no idea why or what's going on" is what monkey said about radiobanana.
mircea_popescu: "wait mp, you mean radioactive or radioreceptive ?" "nooooobody knooowsss..."
lobbes: aha. yeah, I got some diagnostics to perform looks like.
lobbes: but for now, bed. I'll report back with findings
a111: Logged on 2018-06-25 03:52 asciilifeform: spyked: prolly i oughta elaborate re the item in your 4th footnote. a compact lisptron has no particular reason to have any notions of parsing baked in; all it needs is 1) a basic i/o mechanism 2) a way to load an initial pre-built s-expression into the working memory and immediately evaluate it.
ave1: spyked, nice implementation, so far the lispm code seems to fit in my head!
ave1: btw, why not a v genesis?
spyked: I think there's great benefit in the ffa chapter-based approach, so I'm not sure yet what the genesis should include. maybe only the lispm piece? or only the spec file from lispm? my sense so far is that after some discussion, at least some of the parts will be rewritten
☟︎☟︎ ave1: Well, rewriting would be helped by a genesis, discussion likewise (then the patches can be on btcbase and refered to in the log...)
spyked: ave1, that's actually a good point. I'll put it on the todo list.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-25 12:20 spyked: I think there's great benefit in the ffa chapter-based approach, so I'm not sure yet what the genesis should include. maybe only the lispm piece? or only the spec file from lispm? my sense so far is that after some discussion, at least some of the parts will be rewritten
mod6: heheh, bout the same.
mod6: Gonna be a busy week. Got a lot to accomplish with pizarro & foundation.
mod6: I might not get to it this week, probably sometime in early july, but I'm going to roll in your aggression vpatch to the foundation patch set as well.
mod6: for sure. indeed, bug fix.
mod6: and i see no reason not to include it in main vtree.
BingoBoingo: In the first half of today's game Uruguay has scored two goals and Russia has scored two yellow cards. I am starting to suspect winning strategies in futbol (selling your injuries, falling like it is a disaster every time) contribute to the local cultural failures
a111: Logged on 2018-06-25 03:01 hanbot: BingoBoingo> Aite, next time I go to the feria to look at kitchen utensils Imma have to bring a latina. "Evwerything on the table is a matched set you won't separate" my ass << fwiw, in my experience the SA chinese shops have actually usable knives/glassware/etc (not cast iron specifically tho), and are guaranteed not to pretensewall, or at least, not in the same manner.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-24 19:38 mircea_popescu: recall that lulzy mochilla dood ?
mod6: ah, well, let's hope the docs get signed today then
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Today is. Provided dude shows up.
mircea_popescu: spyked> I think there's great benefit in the ffa chapter-based approach << that ~started with a genesis~.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: genesis should have included exactly the thing you published.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-25 12:20 spyked: I think there's great benefit in the ffa chapter-based approach, so I'm not sure yet what the genesis should include. maybe only the lispm piece? or only the spec file from lispm? my sense so far is that after some discussion, at least some of the parts will be rewritten
a111: Logged on 2018-06-25 06:15 mircea_popescu: this habit of "i'll publish" is on the record having killed more smart men than the police.
mircea_popescu: that's the one part of naggum you absolutely do not want.
mircea_popescu: we already have a mechanism to deal with irrelevance, there's no need for an ad-hoc, broken, personal implementation whenever something useful may be occuring, to fuck it up.
mircea_popescu: but to reiterate : there's nothing wrong with a broken, not complete, not working, not pretty etc genesis. most neonates are also not worth the fucking.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform like a pile of magic numbers, vaguely reminiscent of "what letter is on the left bottom of page 23 of manual" crap
mircea_popescu: escue, you know, the portion of rescue to regexp if you're too lazy to tease out off by one errors.
mircea_popescu: because to the malbolge programmer, "is %a in %b" implemented as what index of %b is %a at can't be safely >0'd, has to be >1'd.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829419 << here's a pro tip : the chinese own the argentine supply chain (all those "supermercados") and, to a lesser but present degree uruguayan. they have a very powerful informal banking system, for one thing, meaning that if you know one or two of the old chinese women handling their repatriation of cash needs you're in a prime position to move millions, as i can personally confirm from
☝︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: it comes with other benefits, because they're well connected throughout, if you want a cop fired or a permit bit flipped ("hey, i want my restaurant to serve alcohol" / "hey, i want the restaurant downstairs to lose alcohol license so i can sleep") or whatever else they can probably help.
mircea_popescu: in short, if in latam you want to make contact with the underground chinese republic first week not 2nd year.
mircea_popescu: of course, they're only impressed by two things : a) wealth or b) a mastery of chinese culture. so you're in a bit of a weak spot wrt. but being in a weak spot dun change what the world is.
mircea_popescu: but of course, their idea of culture has nohing to see with what the wykeham professor of cocksucking might've told obama rice or condolezza hussein or whatever.
mircea_popescu: i'll give you a simple example, by way of illumination.
mircea_popescu: often, [one of] their intakes (ie, like this place) will be a large chinese restaurant. in this busy, cheap place most people come to eat. some people who come to eat also notice the elderly gentleman sitting quietly in the back somewhere at a table, usually by himself, having tea if anything.
mircea_popescu: some of these people might even observe he's still there later that day, and early or late the next day, and so on. so they might politely approach, and state their business, "respectable old man, chow dicks sent me from fuk-u province, i must so and so". and the old man will politely tell you to come back so and so later and so on.
mircea_popescu: this is what fucking culture is, finding uses for things. what are you going to do with an old man ?
mircea_popescu: can't let him own the place, like fucktarded whitey. it's no good. can't throw him out on the street. wut do ?
mircea_popescu: gatekeeper, keeps everyone happy. and in this sort of excellence of employment, the benefit of multi-millenary civilisation shows.
mircea_popescu: they resolved problems the yahoos in our colonies daren't even touch yet.
mircea_popescu: and similarily, i use my own whores to recruit young'uns ; but the chinese use their mothers. because what can you possibly do with an old woman ? what's she for in this world, if she isn't lubing up the teens and showing them how to fold their legs, a la
http://trilema.com/2015/carnita/ ?
mircea_popescu: vying for male attention "on her own terms", which happen to be so counter-productive she's more pitiful than an old dog sleeping on a fresh grave.
mircea_popescu: the problem is significantly compounded by the fact absolutely nobody wants to fuck the ugly dyspepsia victims they spawn. those are women ?! in what bugworld.
mircea_popescu: russkis, you know, the only reason they still exist anymore than poland today is that they're the only white people that can find anything attractive in the balls-of-lank.
mircea_popescu: anyway, they prolly lub you, seems to be alf traits muchly valued in "'when i hear 'culture', i reach for my pistol" china.
mircea_popescu: tell them "i am a lord of this republic thingee, looking for a female chinese slave", see what they say.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-25 17:01 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829419 << here's a pro tip : the chinese own the argentine supply chain (all those "supermercados") and, to a lesser but present degree uruguayan. they have a very powerful informal banking system, for one thing, meaning that if you know one or two of the old chinese women handling their repatriation of cash needs you're in a prime position to move millions, as i can personally confirm from
BingoBoingo: Imma have to find where the Chinese that aren't recent arrival WTC suit guys are hiding
mod6: hey cool, BingoBoingo !
BingoBoingo: I was told the way to do that tramite is over the telephone in the dead of night to experience less hold music
lobbes: hey congrats BingoBoingo! Nothing like being able to shit in solitude on-demand, I tell you what
mircea_popescu: well, until he gets to the point where he has a girl to lick him clean because tp's too rough, at any rate.
☟︎ lobbes: well sure. but now he's got the options covered!
mod6: Rim-Jobs: Now, On-Demand and with Enthusiasm
mircea_popescu: lobbes btw, any chance you implement a !Qsearch to go to duck duck go ?
mircea_popescu: like ye olde ;;google worked but really, no reason to have google still involved in any web process (in fact, i very much recommend iptable-blocking all their ip ranges, because whether you know or not, 80% or so of websites out there tattle back to usg.alphabet, via "google analytics" or w/e else)
lobbes: I think I could. Problem here is that lobbesbot has two search commands as it is (!Qs for searching #eulora logs, and !Qsarchive for searching archive). Would need to dis-ambiguate
lobbes also needs to figure out iptables on rockchip. thing was complaining about missing modules earlier; won't start
lobbes: now I feel like a true lord, my tmsr todo list has like 30 items lol. Forcing me into better organize myself though
lobbes: I need one of these whiteboards everyone talks about
lobbes: text files don't jump out at you every day in the same manner
diana_coman: get a kid - that one jumps at you even more!!
diana_coman set up The Incredible Machine dos-version even for said child and he's totally hooked
☟︎☟︎ lobbes: oh god. I can't imagine digging through eulora source code while simultaneously dealing with kid interfacing at x irregular intervals
lobbes: I used to think I wanted kids, but really, I'm starting to see the 'pyramid scheme' angle talked about in the logs
diana_coman: ah, no, work time is work time, can't really mix them
diana_coman: programming doesn't go well with interruptions or at least not for me
lobbes: makes sense. I was going to say, diana_coman must have shiva-arms extending from brain
diana_coman: lobbes, the part that is not obvious when you see only random kids is that they learn what *you* show them; so if you make it clear work time and get them busy at that time etc there's no problem really
lobbes: I can see it. It is true my only exposure in my life to kids thus far has been the unrestrained wildebeasts of the US-variety.
BingoBoingo: How many times will I be on hold befor this phone tramite ends
a111: Logged on 2018-06-25 19:52 BingoBoingo: But its official. I now have the keys.
BingoBoingo: Should have power between 9 and 18 tomorrow
a111: Logged on 2018-06-25 20:10 mircea_popescu: well, until he gets to the point where he has a girl to lick him clean because tp's too rough, at any rate.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-25 20:19 diana_coman set up The Incredible Machine dos-version even for said child and he's totally hooked
a111: Logged on 2018-06-23 20:39 phf: "beware of dog"? seems unlikely though..
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nothing better than the short fp available to identify that #1 ?
BingoBoingo: The chromebook appliance thing just keeps getting weirder
BingoBoingo: I mean the part where a fob exists that isn't infineon