phf: if you manage to build suzy-q replica at home you absolutely must name it siouxsie sioux
trinque: Mocky: I'll have something for you to try out in a few days, if you like.
☟︎ Mocky: great, looking forward to it
trinque got the cuntoo to build again, need to gather up all needed distfiles so we aren't fucked the next time shitworld's tectonic plates shift.
phf: trinque: is cuntoo pure musl?
mircea_popescu: spyked, i will have you know that ~all~ the trainee sluts agree -- my version is good, yours isn't. SO THERE!\
phf: asciilifeform: so the idea is to get into that npcx, which is running "chrome OS EC firmware"?
deedbot: fromdeedbot voiced for 30 minutes.
fromdeedbot: just stopping in.... i haven't read the logs from the last month
fromdeedbot: where ever i go there i am, and all time is sexy on freenode
phf: apparently that thing does everything, "ap power sequencing, battery charging, thermal management, keyboard scan matrix, buttons and switches, backlights, indicator LEDS, board-specific peripherals, USB-PD controller, case-closed debug controller, usb type-c power brick"
fromdeedbot: if my aunt had a dick, she'd have been my uncle
fromdeedbot: namecoin is the new black..... as soon as earthlings sort their shit out
fromdeedbot: namecoin and deedbot... i cant think of a better use case
phf: what kind of console is it? does it respond to "version"?
phf: well, it'll be like discovering alt-tmsr or lizard hitler, the way asciilifeform always wanted
phf: "Console is enabled; type HELP for help."
mircea_popescu: why not "Console might be enabled; type HELP ME LIZZARD HiTLER for finding out."
mod6: hey this Borsec is pretty decent
mod6: Yeah, bought 6 bottles (which, only plastic ones were available). One bottle was broken, so I really only got five. But w/e. Good stuff.
mircea_popescu: holy shit i never heard of that before, they survive highway crashes those things
mod6: yeah, somehow the bottom of one of the bottles got a crack in the bottom.
mod6: i pulled out the whole pack and one was totally empty. i lul'd.
mod6: stranger, it was packed pretty well. pack of six was in a rigid corrugated box stuffed with foam peanuts.
mod6: hopefully next pack will be all intact.
mod6: good to hear, thanks for the suggestion.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-06 16:23 BreakingRae: Hey Spyked, I'd love to see your notes on what we discussed if you'll show me.
spyked: mircea_popescu, version of what?
spyked: ah, okay. re that, I think it's a good assignment for philology students, so I'm actually making it a point to mention it to ppl in the field.
spyked: actually meeting one tomorrow, so now that you mentioned it... I'm definitely going to ask her to do a japanese translation!
mircea_popescu: it's un fucking translatable. aaaand, to quote the last one, "lol hes in denial".
spyked: lol. mircea_popescu, I'm not denying nor admitting! the fact remains that your version has a borken metre, i.e. the last two lines don't match the first two. for ref.,
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1802222 dunno how much this counts for mircea_popescu, but it does for me.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 20:55 mircea_popescu: spyked, apparently you have no comments ? anyway, "the smiling girl i saw today bewitched my soul entirely ; another line goes in a diary that's read by me, and Mr. Sorrowly."
mircea_popescu: hey, i don't enter into it -- i'm asking sluts. if not sluts, who is to arbiter poetry ?
spyked: that's a fair point I guess. the wave of self-aggrandazing poetry critics seems dead today, and that didn't mean much to begin with.
spyked: mircea_popescu, what about music? (I'm asking because I find the two inseparable)
spyked: lol! I was just going to say that I kinda enjoyed barbilian's poems-as-puzzles back in highschool.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's not the last two, it's just the last one.
BingoBoingo: Holy shit on the Open problem to resolved problem tea.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Congrats on the victory against the googleists/Intelards
BingoBoingo: Small victory in the same sense being the first to summit a mountain is a small victory. There's this impossing and incomprehensible mass of rock, eventually someone makes his way to the top, documents or creates a human navigable path, etc, etc.
BingoBoingo: It's a small victory in the direction of capturing USB-C as a Republican standard
mod6: <+asciilifeform> ^ complete schematic. << I've been catching up on your posts here, this is pretty great!
phf: they should just let cracauer host it on cons.org
mircea_popescu: in other lulz,
https://medium.com/@MartinCracauer << "Read writing from Martin Cracauer on Medium. Lisp, FreeBSD, Shift-Tilt Photography and Symphonic Metal. Every day, Martin Cracauer and thousands of other voices read, write, and share important stories on Medium."
mircea_popescu: there's basically nothing left inside these schmucks, "joe and thousands others [just like him]" isn't even perceived as insulting.
mircea_popescu: oh, neoteny of postmodernism, how ye keep telling yourself you're ok and what a disgusting slimy maggot ye are...
phf: well, the "1hz" point comes up periodically in lisp conversations, and there's a value behind it. asciilifeform attacks in various forms, naggum talked about it also, though i'm failing to find relevant article. cracuer is just surprisingly neotenic to express the point coherently
phf: asciilifeform: can they put a bot here so it'll quote for us? :)
☟︎ mircea_popescu: but you can talk to the whitequark dood, explain how bot works, see if he can add it.
mod6: yeah, thanks for posting the thread. "just trust the hardware that you have"
mod6: It's not long, worth the full read if one has a few extra mins.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, "20:18 <amstan> if you're paranoid you can probably cut the ap spi flash and ec spi flash traces around it " << i was thinking, it can be just cut out
mircea_popescu: fuck the "controls power supply". how's it gonna fail.
mircea_popescu: sometimes, pencildick designs benefit immensely from liberal application of mailed fist.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: a de-alphabet'd item that has no functioning power button is actually acceptable.
mircea_popescu: generally these go like "darling, this is maybe an assfuckin chair you don't object to ?"
mircea_popescu: reason he made the suggestion is that he bets on your failing to accurately test it.
mircea_popescu: i expect they're mandated in all usg-"technology" since many years back.
mircea_popescu: so no, you're not going to find "a board without". you might find one where it's poorly attached and can be hammered off. but that's all.
mircea_popescu: "oh, use this other one instead, terrorist, as you seem hell bent on breaking the chip off. this other one has it in the die, so you can't see it, will be all good"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, my suspicion is that your "no cr 50" will simply mean "they put it in the die of a diff ic, and you can't find it"
mircea_popescu: i don't explain the cockoraches, mr alfstein. i just exterminate them.
mircea_popescu: i went through list of jtag-sitters, saw that and whatever atmel bs.
mircea_popescu: are you basically saying this is not an ennumerable class ?
mircea_popescu: i do not beleive it is. i expect they just bought something.
mircea_popescu: interesting link btw. what is this, the indians are taking over the usg "compliance" part altogether ? to the point the blather is taught in india but not us ?!
mircea_popescu: which, afaik, is the most widely deployed fritzchip in empire.
phf: and as much as i sometimes scoff at the lizard hitler suggestion, the whole narrative, tacitly supported by the relevant designer, is very much it.
phf: "hey guys why don't we publish the secret chip bypass? -- what are you, some kind of terrorist/tinfoil??"
mircea_popescu: scoff all you want, but as burl ives put it, "it's always there in the morning, ain't it".
phf: it reminded me of how sometimes russian academics had problems with their american peers: some of those russians learned english from VHS, so found it acceptable to use ebonics in speech.
phf: i mean, it's a different scenario, but that must be the feeling americans felt in the situations like that
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, are you proposing german axehandles learned english from special ed courses ?
phf: no no, i'm trying to clarify the sort of embarrassed i felt when i read his blog. but in the case of russians it was misunderstanding, in this case though it's something else entirely..
a111: Logged on 2018-06-07 21:03 asciilifeform: it is called cr50. also seems to go by 'h1 secure microcontroller'
mircea_popescu: so then cr50 is the firmware, and the hardware is actually some kind of bulk chip ?
phf: that's what it looks like, H1 B2C on ascii's photo. no mentions of it anywhere on nets, outside of google marketing material
phf: right, i did try mouser/digikey first
phf: this is the kind of stuff phrack was supposed to talk about, but meanwhile the community was gutted..
mircea_popescu: they exist out of "mandating" ie, posturing what the actual people should od.
mircea_popescu: lotta folks don't have women, owning women is not usually +ev bla bla. virgins.
mircea_popescu: anyway, back to it : the cp50's point of interest is, that it has a connection to power button. this is a single line, is it ?
mircea_popescu: yes. which is also why i think this is where the levee should break
a111: Logged on 2018-06-07 20:48 mircea_popescu: sometimes, pencildick designs benefit immensely from liberal application of mailed fist.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-07 20:47 mircea_popescu: pshaw. i'm willing to pay for the board this is tested on.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, if it was ACTUALLY apply hammer, i'd have done it myself\
phf: asciilifeform: smash it out carefully, could mail it to zeptobars, maybe get some idea what sort of beast we're dealing with..
phf: asciilifeform: no need to, i have all the relevant bits, just need to package them for you
phf: i'm sure a russian with an electron microscope would love nothing more than do a careful job on a bonafide fritz chip
phf: worse case he'll just fail, but probably at the limit of what he can do