tmsr - Log 2017-02-08

mircea_popescu: "Leftists don’t merely disagree with you. They don’t merely feel you are misguided. They don’t think you are merely wrong. They hate you. They want you enslaved and obedient, if not dead."

mircea_popescu: hey, the feeling is entyirely mutual. i don't simply think they're misguided, although they are, or for that matter wrong. i don't hate them, but there's no question of the world continuing on any other basis than the complete enslavement of any lefty anywhere.

mircea_popescu: chains for the poor, whippings for the poor, feed children as little as they can bear and send them away from their mothers as soon as they can wlak, to slave in the house of another.

mircea_popescu: that's what built the british empire, that's EXACTLY what built european civilisation, and i would much rather cut a limb off any three year old than ever again encounter any of these unchecked, unhumbled, unhinged monstrosities "liberal our democracy" produces.

mircea_popescu: fucking 7 year cycles, most of the idiots must be dead by the time they're 7 and people are looking for compliant cocksuckers to fill the scant page jobs available.

mircea_popescu: for every hipster in a hipster beard and hat, a dozen innocent infants must lose a limb.

mircea_popescu: maybe make a website for it too. "here's the dozen children that had to lose a limb because johnny mc fucksticks, "hacker and evanghelist" had really bad parents who didn't beat him."

mircea_popescu: but in other butthurt, from thenewrepublic fake news outlet : "The term “fake news” outlived its usefulness almost as soon as it became common parlance, and is perhaps only valuable now as a marker for whether journalism that paints President Donald Trump in an unflattering light has reached his desk." ie, "our arm outlived its usefulness just as soon as the enemy broke it off our shoulder and started beating us in the he

mircea_popescu: ad with it. shame on the arm!"

mircea_popescu: idiots.

mircea_popescu: in other lulz : townhall.com significantly more widely read today than theatlantic.com ; i bow to your more relevant lulzlinks lol

mircea_popescu: but anyway, yes, they won't fucking yield, mostly because being a libertard means you have absolutely nothing else, so what exactly would be the difference between yielding and blowing oneself up ? they would, isis style, if they had the guts. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: so yes, it'll be either crush them now or crush them tomorrow or crush them next week etcetera. the only variable is how long the gnashing of teeth is to last.

mircea_popescu: supposedly mercy killing is when you kill an injured animal on the spot, rather than torture it medically for a while first.

mircea_popescu: then again, i am hard pressed to ground the proposition that the left shouldn't be tortured in anything palpable. why exactly not ? i have nfi.

mircea_popescu: "And the frightening thing is that the Left is so foolish, so stuck in its bubble that it has no understanding that it can only push so far before the people with all the guns and all the training push back. That’s the problem with kids who were raised on participation trophies and who never got into a fistfight – they don’t consider the possibility that they will lose, and lose hard." << dude exactly has it. loudmouth

mircea_popescu: derp who's never been punched imagines his edgy talk is something he can support because he has no life experience ; and will be shocked to discover that if you get yourself in the situation where you get punched, people don't usually stop after the first one, even though you switchedon a dime from tough talking dragon to whining little girl.

mircea_popescu: but in any case - stomping into the ground anyone with "protests" is certainly the moral imperative of the age. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1zp953kVLs to quote the left's own agitprop.

asciilifeform: the folx 'with the guns and training' were raped by washington (shay's rebellion), by hoover (bonus army), by johnson (vietnam), by bush/obummer (iraq bonus withdrawal, retroactive, evictions, dekulakizations.) somehow.

mircea_popescu: well yeah. the veterans usually get fucked, from rome onwards.

mircea_popescu: which is this ?

mircea_popescu: how exactly didn't they get the same baculum ?

mircea_popescu: how not ? think of them as hookers.

mircea_popescu: so they got fucked once and didn't get paid, so they went to the fucker's house to complain.

mircea_popescu: who ... fucked once more, and allowed them to stay on, to get fucked more as the need may arise.

mircea_popescu: this is a deal ? because why, they "got married" ? tyvm.

mircea_popescu: they didn't go home happy.

asciilifeform: mno. went to his house, and burned it to the ground, and fucked his daughters' neck stumps.

mircea_popescu: mno. hooker fucks, soldier fights. as the hooker fucked so the soldier fought.

mircea_popescu: basically they fought another war for free because they weren't paid for he first one ?

mircea_popescu: bitch, veteran = golden solidus and all the barbarian women in a county. that's the deal.

mircea_popescu: not "come to palace cut more heads".

mircea_popescu: wtf, suppose you're a plumber, go do a spot of work, dork refuses to pay, you go to courthouse to complain they make you do their plumbing too. this sounds like a deal to you ?

mircea_popescu: you're only plumbing to get paid, it's not your fucking physiological function after all!

asciilifeform: if 'their plumbing' means 'stitch malefactor's arse to his mouth' and take his gold -- then yes, deal.

mircea_popescu: i dunno about that. ww1 veterans got gold ? what gold did they get ?

mircea_popescu: you understand the ancient conception of war ? you raise a bunch of men, you go the next town over, you beat up all the guys, this is the work ; you fuck all the women and drink all the booze, this is the party (like what they do in sane jurisdiction during college games, the winning team gets the naked cheerleaders of tghe losers') ; then all the gold found on the premises is melted into one single thing and it is poured in

mircea_popescu: as many equal rounds as there are men present.

mircea_popescu: that's the solidus, a trophy of the victory. each soldier takes his home.

mircea_popescu: to be traded away or kept, but in any case - his. his by right of war.

asciilifeform: ww2 (and zhukov in particular, with his trains) was hilarious exhibit of orcs trying, hopelessly, to apply this principle to modern conveniences

mircea_popescu: and the losers are to do what losers are to do, raise the children resultant.

mircea_popescu: aha.

asciilifeform: grunt can take the 'tic, tac' 40 watches home, but not the berlin train system

mircea_popescu: germans were more practical, burn teh locals take the train system.

asciilifeform: (though they did find a way to take zeiss home -- entire thing, men, machines, glass.)

asciilifeform: quite likely there are folx in rural ru still shitting in toilets from reichstag to this day.

asciilifeform: i suspect that modern folx see war as a snore at least partly because there is not so much that is to be carted away. killing, e.g., usg troops, is pest control. cockroaches - don't have gold.

mircea_popescu: aha.

mircea_popescu: this is very much so.

mircea_popescu: kinda why war became asymmetric

asciilifeform: vietnamese would not even take the rifles. 'this little black rifle is of no use to our cause.' --actual order

mircea_popescu: well they were pretty shitty rifles.

mircea_popescu: pretty much yeah

mircea_popescu: if it weren't for the needs of us industry to feel important and relevant, war'd have been fought with ak-47 on both sides.

mircea_popescu: allowing the ru to superiorily lulz at teh orcs.

asciilifeform: by some accounts, good share of the actual 2way fire exchanges, ~were~ with ak.

asciilifeform: vietnam is a fascinating treasury of lulz, and quite well-documented. how, for instance, the command was mainly occupied with question of how to actually make the conscripts fight instead of 'travail arabe' imitation (consisting of retreat and shots fired for sound effect)

asciilifeform: they settled on physically marooning the cannon fodder behind enemy lines, with chopper. hence that vehicle becoming iconic of the period.

mircea_popescu: aha. otherwise dumbest thing ever, really, chopper as battle machine ?!

mircea_popescu: why not those idiotic tank on stilts things from holywood "fiction"

asciilifeform: the latter works, in all fairness, quite well against folx with ~0 air defense.

asciilifeform: (iirc, most airframes lost, at least according to Official histories, were accounted for by mechanical wear)

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not possible to have "0 air defense" to the level of making it safe for helicopter.

mircea_popescu: a hunting rifle suffices.

thestringpuller: asciilifeform: weird heathen survey connects on my VPN machine but not from my local network?

mircea_popescu: shinohai works swimmingly, identified all my social media bots.

asciilifeform: thestringpuller: one other thing: is there a prb node also on your lan? it might have led to malleus banhammering of your ip.

asciilifeform: thestringpuller: if you're interested in a perma-cure, plz consider answering my qs

thestringpuller: it's built on Debian Jessie frozen circa mid 2015 (except for sakurity updates)

asciilifeform: thestringpuller: this wouldn't be the first isp that tried to monkey with the naked bits , nor the last

deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/D140BCA0BB6C20C9AB25314C80770AB6DEAC6302A53ACA6E89CEA0A2D1DCC93D << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1667...5417 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '81.27.33.66 (ssh-rsa key from 81.27.33.66 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (athena.argo.no. NO)

deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/D140BCA0BB6C20C9AB25314C80770AB6DEAC6302A53ACA6E89CEA0A2D1DCC93D << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1648...0553 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '81.27.33.66 (ssh-rsa key from 81.27.33.66 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (athena.argo.no. NO)

thestringpuller: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-07#1612224 << gcc (Debain 4.7.2-5) 4.7.2 ; the problem is g++ won't install due to some dependency conflict in apt-get ; I don't know exactly what package(s) is(are) causing it... ☝︎

asciilifeform: unless you have some peculiar reason for using this distro - throw it out.

shinohai: It isn't bad really. You can test drive in a chroot until you have time to build actual kernel.

mod6: <+thestringpuller> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-07#1612224 << gcc (Debain 4.7.2-5) 4.7.2 ; the problem is g++ won't install due to some dependency conflict in apt-get ; I don't know exactly what package(s) is(are) causing it... << ahh, huh. well, if you ever figure out what it is, let us know. ☝︎

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-07#1612127 << i actually heard that phrase verbatim from the nordics more than once in the past week ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2017-02-07 18:24 mircea_popescu: ahahaha future is female get the fuck out of here.

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-07#1612175 << if we're sticking to unix, should really be able to specify which random device to use, with /dev/random being fallback. of course they Solved it on Plan9 (tm), you can bind whatever endpoint as /dev/random in your process ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-02-07 19:05 asciilifeform: and other proggies running on the box have 0 business knowing which serial ttys are rngs, which are terminals, and which -- nukes

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-07#1612201 << i'm using that ip list that you pasted in round-robin for both bouncer and the bot, and subjectively shit's been dropping more frequently. ☝︎

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-07#1612232 << umd is a giant h1-b clearing house, when you take away that, there's nothing left. at a recent career fair i saw huge lines of azns and indians at google and facebook booths ("our wait time finally dropped below an hour so i could get away and grab lunch") ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2017-02-07 21:18 asciilifeform: i.e. 'we will do exactly what we did under obummer, and fuck you, and oh hey did we mention, fuck you? and go ahead and try to pull fed funding, that button ain't connected'

phf: i could count the natives on two hands, and only one or two with the right kinds of brains. on the other hand incredibly large number of "i have a ph.d. and a patent back in china, studying here for compsci undergrad"

phf: first time you see a physics ph.d. with a patent you're kind of impressed, but when you have ten of them in a row.. ☟︎

deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/EC8D740592710CE518B5F7A49138538DB9FB446895C13771C5760688B1F0C97B << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1422...1713 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '80.69.46.131 (ssh-rsa key from 80.69.46.131 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (host.schnied.net. DE)

deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/EC8D740592710CE518B5F7A49138538DB9FB446895C13771C5760688B1F0C97B << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1635...0359 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '80.69.46.131 (ssh-rsa key from 80.69.46.131 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (host.schnied.net. DE)

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mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612411 << it's the periodic sort of idiocy ; you end up hearing it from sinking civilisations. the greeks thought "the future is female" and it survived ~1k years, as seen eg in the cathar heresy. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-02-08 04:07 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-07#1612127 << i actually heard that phrase verbatim from the nordics more than once in the past week

mircea_popescu: the universal cure for it, as deployed by the french king, is raising special forces cavalry dedicated to raping the daugthers and castrating the husbands, and billeting it with the families in question.

mircea_popescu: more or less the "refugee" thing.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612417 << quite exactly, yes. a fine example of the general principle in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612300 ☝︎☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-02-08 04:36 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-07#1612232 << umd is a giant h1-b clearing house, when you take away that, there's nothing left. at a recent career fair i saw huge lines of azns and indians at google and facebook booths ("our wait time finally dropped below an hour so i could get away and grab lunch")

a111: Logged on 2017-02-08 00:28 mircea_popescu: but anyway, yes, they won't fucking yield, mostly because being a libertard means you have absolutely nothing else, so what exactly would be the difference between yielding and blowing oneself up ? they would, isis style, if they had the guts.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612420 << and the first time you see a lord in full regalia it's also kind of impressing ; by the time the peasants made themselves replicas and every barefoot-in-the-mud haystack princess is embroidering her "crest" on pillows... ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-02-08 04:40 phf: first time you see a physics ph.d. with a patent you're kind of impressed, but when you have ten of them in a row..

mircea_popescu: kind-of easy to forget (especially for the ustard who never knew) that there was a california a thousand years ago, and it was called languedoc.

mircea_popescu: shit ended poorly for them.

mircea_popescu: (after "they won't fucking yield" peacefully, without any sort of plan other than "we'll just keep on going". holocaust predictably followed.)

mircea_popescu: !~google "donas e tozas e mulhers"

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mircea_popescu: dude how the fuck can google be this fucking useless.\

mircea_popescu: seriously, 500 fucking references, all of which to one of either "according to the most detailed sources" or "according to one source", or "apparently" or "legend" ? fuck me, really ?

mircea_popescu: "E tiravan la donas e tozas e molhers e venc tot dreit la peira lai on era mestiers." how about that! what fucking magic is this, i wonder! you mean to tell me it's possible to KNOW THE FUCKING SOURCES as opposed to n-th hand idle commentary of no value or import ?!

Reuel: When I am looking at the TRB site seals, I see more than one for each patch, does that mean code has been reviewed?

Reuel: Also, in the spirit of what you guys are doing, I'd guess Ubuntu would not be the prefered system to run a bitcoin node on for serious use, do you have suggestions as to what to use?

shinohai: Reuel: I'd say Gentoo myself, though trb *has* built countless times for me on Ubuntu/Debian

Reuel: Yet, following the philosophy, then at some point one would want to build an OS this way, right?

mircea_popescu: lol hi goys

mircea_popescu: Reuel yes, that's what it imeans exactly.

mircea_popescu: !~calc 5.7 + 1.1 - 7

mircea_popescu: ^look ye and be amazed at the grandiose arithmetical future of alphabet, inc!

mircea_popescu: !!rated lobbes

mircea_popescu: !!rate lobbes 3 eulora logs + auction bot, and altogether a very solid lordship candidate. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: that's all it has, there's no gui

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Don't forget Qntra Qntributor http://qntra.net/author/lobbes/

mircea_popescu: right-o

Reuel: ah yeah i hobbied a bit with the cli before, can't seem to find it now... i'll look harder

mircea_popescu: Reuel pretty sure it has a --help

mircea_popescu: what's your definition of scratch ? it was built from genesis, which is a historical client deemed closest to "no nsa involvement"

shinohai: http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html <<< is pretty self explanatory ... phf also has a nice source viewer which is helpful for reading the code.

a111: Logged on 2017-02-08 17:10 mircea_popescu: !!rate lobbes 3 eulora logs + auction bot, and altogether a very solid lordship candidate.

mircea_popescu: ^ plox to lemme know what you think

mircea_popescu: lobbes if you don't feel like writing account infrastructure of your own, prolly best wait for trinque to complete the deedbot thing. ☟︎

trinque: speaking of which, ben_vulpes, I'm hacking on the raw protocol logging thing today for a bit. dunno if you did anything there to get ACTION working with logs.bvulpes.com

trinque: I'm gonna need that to finish logbot-wot (handles voicing model and ratings), after which the thing's modular, ready to release (and accept other Lords patches)

mircea_popescu: pretty cool.

mircea_popescu: trinque but anyway, here's a directly evident usage already, guy starts auction in #eulora, lobbesbot makes him a bill, guy goes !!pay http://bill

mircea_popescu: we'll have to have a standardized bill form i guess.

mircea_popescu: possibly they should exist as deeds for that matter.

mircea_popescu: at least if they do we'll get to explore the "automate signed" space cheaply enough.

Reuel: mircea_popescu, i am geting blocks so i guess i built TRB, what would you suggest i do next? you mentioned mimisbrunnr, looking at that now, anything practical I could do except read? ☟︎

lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612483 << yeah, I'm fine with trinque handling the payment portion of the process, and I shouldn't have any issues getting lobbesbot to handle the billing portion ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-02-08 18:12 mircea_popescu: lobbes if you don't feel like writing account infrastructure of your own, prolly best wait for trinque to complete the deedbot thing.

shinohai: I tried to install it in a sandbox, naturally it says "Oh you are a speshul case because you dont share your private keyz with us" ☟︎

framedaddy_ghett: basically, whole hosting provider's network went down, unannounced, including all their services etc. funtimes! ☟︎☟︎

deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/02/08/the-shallow-depths-of-the-apparent-deep/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - The shallow depths of the apparent deep.

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thestringpuller: ah. do you have an image name for the wheezy you used? i just wanna try it out lol

shinohai: thestringpuller: I honestly don't want to encourage you to continue to use Deb for obvious reasons .... but it's just vanilla wheezy

shinohai: The only reason I am still testing Deb/Ubuntu at this point is to help potential noobs that have a smidgen of an idea how to operate linux