mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo from experience nobody gives a flying fuck about visas in this part of the world.
BingoBoingo: That's the suspicion, but still likely useful as part of journey to second passport
BingoBoingo: Or I guess there's the finding a girl to marry route, but then I forfeit my dissident license.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: d'you want to talk to the guys i spoke to in hk?
ben_vulpes: i'd rather get back to profiling mpfhf than marketing a cabinet
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: THeir contact info wouldn't hurt. Anyways the trade off is warehousing the meat in Brazil is less expensive while starting a business in HK is a two hour online form. It still would not hurt at all to have a VulpesISP even with a BingoISP
ben_vulpes: perhaps my estimates are bad but i'm also having trouble make the thing pencil out to not-a-flaming-hole-in-my-own-pocket
ben_vulpes: would appreciate some more experienced eyes on it for sure
mod6 raises a glass to the 3rd anniversary of The Bitcoin Foundation
☟︎☟︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-10-21 21:36 mircea_popescu: !!pay 0.1 hanbot
trinque: if the bot doesn't give an affirmative reply, it didn't do anything
mircea_popescu: trinque could this actually be changed to match the format of all others ? iirc it's amt dest for withdraw etc.
trinque: yeah, isn't uniform is it. I can change invoice and pay to match withdraw.
trinque: yep if hanbot wanted me to send some txn tonight, better off. I might not find time to change the code this evening.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-22 00:37 mod6 raises a glass to the 3rd anniversary of The Bitcoin Foundation
hanbot: !!withdraw .001896 1KvoD4BCQyQ9qJ6PrUgnqB8y28wcnULs7j
mod6: this thing is pretty sweet huh
hanbot: !!v 5E10A5E30A1F746A48E73EC6E06074B08AC98BECF8D1E414DCD91BC0A954890A
hanbot: trinque can put in the deedbot help html?
hanbot: Performs the previously requested command associated with the decrypted `otp`. << nah, actually, i think that's fine.
hanbot: dunno why i expected to have to use a different letter
hanbot: anyway, very cool itam.
hanbot: trinque that withdraw was a bitpay thingie with 3mins left on the clock fwiw.
trinque: hm, possible it didn't get there in time then. I just dispatched it.
trinque: I think I've told everyone by now that this is a by hand process. I dunno that I'd use it for that.
trinque: how long do they usually give you?
hanbot: 15 mins. anyway, they credited it, should be fine and dandy
trinque: 15min til they see the unconfirmed?
hanbot: 15 mins is what they give you "to pay" in their idiotic bleeping red timer interface. it "ran out" in this instance, but they still see the tx afterwards and credit it
hanbot: i don't know what the actual time threshold is tbh. clearly longer than 15 mins tho.
☟︎ trinque: at any rate there'll before too long be a limited hot wallet on this thing people can subscribe to for automatic txn
hanbot: neato, and greatly appreciated thus far.
jhvh1: ben_vulpes: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-22 01:15 trinque: super dumb.
mircea_popescu: the god of magic numbers gave them the 900 second and they're sticking ot it!
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes a) you're not going to make money renting space as such. this wasn't even in the original design, i've nfi why you added it in.
mircea_popescu: b) you're not going to charge 1k/mo for any servers, don't be ridiculous. you're going to pay 500-2k to buy the server, and then rent it out for the usual 2x the fixed cost.
mircea_popescu: your 42 u full rack takes 40 boxes, optimized so they pull say 150-200 W on average. that'll keep you out of power overages 99% of the time.
mircea_popescu: they cost you about 50k to buy, and the rack will run you about 50k for a year. that means your yearly budget is about 100k, roughly.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 1e5 / 40 / 12 = 208.33333333333331
mircea_popescu: your cost basis is ~200 per server. you can rent them for 3-400 as such, or can give out vpsen, which are more productive. perhaps even "shared" if particularily interested into it.
☟︎☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: these take more work, and consequently provide more revenue.
mircea_popescu: after the first year your machines are amortized and your downline built, so you're looking at some decent net margin. before the first year you're burdened by the capital costs and stuck with low occupancy, so you bleed cash.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: what separates the men from the children is that one year, and whether at the end of it you're green or not.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> they cost you about 50k to buy, and the rack will run you about 50k for a year. that means your yearly budget is about 100k, roughly. << This is roughly my impression. 50k colorent, 40-70k-ish hardware, 35-ish k physical presence so as to walk to servers, 2k birthing company, 5k retainers, 100k prudent reserve (In case of Best Korea, Intifada, meteor storm, Pelosi). Rent boxes out for ~2x cost basis (all in, not board so
BingoBoingo: PCENGINES APU not so cheap), VPS 3x+ cost basis. Misc weird (i.e. hand courier and colo 32 bit SPARC machine) billed in proportion to time they take from providing excellent customer service and 2x cost basis for livng space.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: But this week is about refining that to more concrete figure.
BingoBoingo: Well goal more honest than US retail label of "plan"
BingoBoingo: Also it seems the deedbutt payment hasn't gone through yet.
hanbot: Even the once unknown Mircea Popescu is now making waves with his blog. << lmfao, "it's not plagiarism if you throw a name in there entirely out of context!!1"
mod6: <+hanbot> Even the once unknown Mircea Popescu is now making waves with his blog. << lmfao, "it's not plagiarism if you throw a name in there entirely out of context!!1" << yeah, srsly.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, my impression of the business is that its like farming, except customer service is a thing.
BingoBoingo: Occasionally there's big moves, none bigger than starting out. Everything else is consistency at every size.
deedbot: nikopo1 voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Watch out for pits yourself. Also, how are the toilets?
☟︎ shinohai: Ooh old trainz in abandoned stations would make neat photoset
shinohai: I'm beginning to think people that randomly receive full integer Bitcoins from mircea_popescu get cursed.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: rather, they were cursed with stupid to begin with, and had so far lived in a sort of environment where it had been carefully made inpossible to prove it.
mircea_popescu: but the curse of stupid is amply distributed and heavy indeed. consider : for the past THREE YEARS i have been giving ANY WOMAN IN THE WORLD hundreds of dollars. this is more than ANY "organization" ever did for the women in this world, be it something from usg.alphabet, or usg.un bureaucracy or anyone else.
mircea_popescu: but the needy women themselves have carefully worked together to avoid being halped.
mircea_popescu: mark twain has a bit about how every whore in the west hit up john smith for alms whenever.
mircea_popescu: john smith is jack shit, the west didn't hold 4 bn women in 1860.
shinohai: Bwahaha those "A girl online " comments in that article are so lulzy
a111: Logged on 2017-10-22 12:23 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Watch out for pits yourself. Also, how are the toilets?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you like it there you'd prolly luv odessa.
mircea_popescu: why ? tall, lithe. no tits and mostly absent ass, but hey, can't have errything.
mircea_popescu: so what's keeping you ? go up to whichever looks best and say "hey, we'd like to take you in for a pet."
mircea_popescu: sure as fuck beats "raising" a dog ; and i can readily understand one not wanting to go through genital roulette at the cost of an irreplaceable decade and a reasonably rare million.
mircea_popescu: they can make their own decisions when it's their time to talk. take life one day at a time, can feed and pet your new pet today.
mircea_popescu: if they don't speak it who wants them for a pet anyway.
mircea_popescu: our conversation today has distilled a golden bible of happy pet-taking. it goes like so : rule #1, do not presume to take decisions for the animal, it's capable for itself. rule #2, do not presume to put up a show for the animal, its sense of smell is fine by nature.
deedbot: jawbone voiced for 30 minutes.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-22 14:54 asciilifeform: aaalso why are there signs warning of buried ~oxygen~ pipes !
diana_coman: !!v 70E0D6D289568E9DA00A34BDB09376F67BECE9A0CCE40F0E82EEF02F1234F5C2
deedbot: diana_coman rated asciilifeform 5 << His kindergarten is better than your university. Also: producer of sane and reliable fuckgoats, horsecocks and lamport parachutes among other useful items.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and in other lulz : after failing to produce any footage anyone can be arsed to watch for 20 years running,. hollywood is finally being abandoned to the sufragette politruk brigade. as a result, amusing pieces like the discovery that jenniffer "nature itself is angry at trump" lawrence got her pussy grabbed by anyone and everyone, including momentary famous kulak harvey weinstein. AND LIKE IT. because yes, she's exactly what
mircea_popescu: (for the curious : the weinstein brothers were instrumental in independent film even existing in the us, through founding miramax and inventing sundance. uneasy relationship with pantsuit exploded in early 2010s, over michael moore's complaining that tribute's insufficient ; this after the inane pantsuitist idiocy of forrest gump was given pulp ficiton's oscar.)
ben_vulpes: whoa where in usgstan do they serve duck with faux syrup
ben_vulpes: in my corner of hell sets of folks who eat duck and corn syrup are disjoint
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i am not responsible to explain why ustardianism is eccentric / not found outside of the ustard reservation.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-22 19:24 asciilifeform: mmm, caek, cognac
a111: Logged on 2017-10-22 18:14 ben_vulpes: in my corner of hell sets of folks who eat duck and corn syrup are disjoint
mircea_popescu: there's maybe a dozen or so restaurants in the us, and im pretty sure they're not open to the public other than because they're 19 and "male pig" invited them
a111: Logged on 2017-10-22 05:20 mircea_popescu: your cost basis is ~200 per server. you can rent them for 3-400 as such, or can give out vpsen, which are more productive. perhaps even "shared" if particularily interested into it.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-22 00:37 mod6 raises a glass to the 3rd anniversary of The Bitcoin Foundation
a111: Logged on 2017-10-22 05:49 BingoBoingo: PCENGINES APU not so cheap), VPS 3x+ cost basis. Misc weird (i.e. hand courier and colo 32 bit SPARC machine) billed in proportion to time they take from providing excellent customer service and 2x cost basis for livng space.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-22 15:19 shinohai: I'm beginning to think people that randomly receive full integer Bitcoins from mircea_popescu get cursed.
shinohai: If BingoBoingo gets cursed I'll be sad :(
shinohai: That looks suspiciously like Girl Fawksey
mircea_popescu: ineptitude and idiocy are present, yes, but not really teh norm.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-22 16:29 deedbot: diana_coman rated asciilifeform 5 << His kindergarten is better than your university. Also: producer of sane and reliable fuckgoats, horsecocks and lamport parachutes among other useful items.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> after release 'p', i'ma return to civilized-btctronics among other wurk << cool, right on.
shinohai: I did not change asciilifeform 's functions at all, it was readable as is. I simply combined all the functions into a single script xD
shinohai: If it ain't broke, why fix it? (tm)
mod6: <+asciilifeform> imho mine was quite readable << i never had any problem.
shinohai: Useful for hosing down pet after feeding her caek and cognac perhaps?
mod6: <+asciilifeform> in other holyfuqs: hotelshower has A HOSE << like a garden hose?
BingoBoingo: <shinohai> If BingoBoingo gets cursed I'll be sad :( << Not the first time having recieved coin from MP
shinohai: Good, that means you are immune
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform>
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-22#1727598 << pcengines ftr costs <200bux (sans disk), draws ~10w, and much spiffier for any practical use than vps << AHA, but it feeds same market segment. The thing about cheap boards is people can forget the other things that go into being a machine like casing, etc
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-10-22 05:20 mircea_popescu: your cost basis is ~200 per server. you can rent them for 3-400 as such, or can give out vpsen, which are more productive. perhaps even "shared" if particularily interested into it.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> in other reportage from orcvalhalla: there are as many mini-casinos here as banks. << 5 years ago here in Southern Illinois there were few of these, now in most bars and a good chunk of gas stations. Even a few freestanding ones.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-22 21:28 asciilifeform wonders if folx other than mircea_popescu are yet ready to solve riddle, of where did asciilifeform go.
lobbes: Hm. Good air. quality coffee for < price of us toilet paper. Mini-casinos abound. The clues mount
lobbes: L0l. That fresh jersey air
a111: Logged on 2017-10-22 23:05 shinohai: He's in New Jersey xD
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: not bars here, but entire gambling-dens with nought but dedicated лохотронs << There are a few of those popping up too.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Didja end up in the Dontesk republic?
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Anyways pcengines is not proposed VPS host, but proposed VPS alternative