phf: well, definitely not moving to argentina
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BingoBoingo suspects it was the years in the forum slop helped to hone hanbot's craft
hanbot: couldn't've hurt. really though, there's nothing like travel and working for mp to give someone a pair of disdain and derision glasses.
BingoBoingo: But the forum offer a flayground full of bodies to skin!
hanbot: speaking of which, i got contact lenses for the first time last week. talked to a few people here about them, then realized i'd been calling them "contact lentils" (lentejas de contacto vs lentes)
BingoBoingo: Glasses only go so far. At some point gotta practice cutting.
hanbot: "i'm still getting used to my contact lentils", i said this.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: how long did it take the arsholes to correct you?
hanbot: oh no, i realized this on my own. when out grocery shopping.
ben_vulpes: "oh, contact lentils, that's what they're called"
hanbot: ...nah. but totally, a derpy tourist pidgin would be just the thing to take off here.
☟︎ hanbot: anyway BingoBoingo a major lesson of the forum was that "nothing/nobody could be that fucking stupid" fails to pan out, and pretty much every time it's tested, too. i imagine scouting stories for qntra yields the same realization.
BingoBoingo: Except I don't get to play with the food as much.
hanbot: BingoBoingo's backcatalogue of butthurt weeds? :D
BingoBoingo: In other news, under Mayor de Blasio New York rents are apparently falling?
☟︎ ben_vulpes: someone showed me a 'data point' that supported that hypothesis recently
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-14#1583052 << that's nothing ; in romania she asked the clerk in the fish shop for a coupla sidewalks, because english trout seemed cognate to romanian trotuar and wtf is a "pastrav". that guy is probably STILL staring into the empty space.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2016-12-14 05:06 hanbot: "i'm still getting used to my contact lentils", i said this.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-14 05:14 hanbot: ...nah. but totally, a derpy tourist pidgin would be just the thing to take off here.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-14#1583068 << maybe the dear hearts an' gentle people of iowa&co finally figured out new york's really not worth the hassle ? and stopped moving there in hopes of becoming a magazine writer with a manhattan mansion just like that carrie bradshaw irl genuine real person ?
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2016-12-14 06:14 BingoBoingo: In other news, under Mayor de Blasio New York rents are apparently falling?
mircea_popescu: or maybe it's all part of the summoning of the great again. new york used to be the cheapest in the werld at some point.
danielpbarron: !~later tell trinque can i still get this file somewhere?
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a111: Logged on 2016-12-13 18:44 asciilifeform: or (at the risk of sounding like complete idiot, because i did not play it) alchemy in eulora, it works there, but meatspace 'alchemy' is considerably more expensive, painful, and rewards -- few and far between, and most practitioners live and die without accomplishing ~anything...
mircea_popescu: how quickly we forget the very reason we even have to call it "blockchain" rather than pretend it's bitcoin. tsk tsk.
BingoBoingo: That one girl who came in with generic "bitcoingirl" nick or something like that and left. I think early 2014-ish
BingoBoingo: Anyways this is a serious Coindesk problem. People ask about doing things, decide to not do them instead doing the Silbert fiatola thing, and then make Coindesk list because it is all silbert stuff nao.
BingoBoingo: In similar news, Christmas Shopping for the frugal: Buy a Christmas Tree. Have the bottom limbs stripped off and cut it in half so the top becomes a small tree. Slice the now detached bottom log into disks. Score the bark on the disks with a knife. You now have a tree and tree scented disks to give as presents.
phf: oh man, upenn, et tu, brute!
mircea_popescu: and honestly, there;'s absolutely no need for the orc hordes to touch shakespeare.
mircea_popescu: whatever the fuck that traci lorde did is exactly right for them.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: ty, piece now more accurately reflects org chart
trinque: how's that cultural revolution coming along?
trinque: kanye just gotta get his retweets from black twitter and #2024
trinque: that's when kanye be president
trinque: after a very serious meeting with Trump he apparently chose to move his very serious run back from 2020.
BingoBoingo: Poor Cliter, she ain't ever beating Kanye.
thestringpuller: Kanye singlehandedly unleashed high frequency trading onto the sneaker world en masse.
mircea_popescu: whart, they gonna keep her in embalming fluid till 2024 ?
trinque: danielpbarron: I've got like five versions of that genbootstrap thing; what are you trying to accomplish ?
trinque: got a musltronic one for example
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: WHy not? Or "life support".
thestringpuller: just like disney sits in cryotube at bottom of disney world castle.
trinque: asciilifeform: yeah, when I run my gentoo recipe, it's usually musl unless I actually need the glibc turd for something
phf: there's a pure musl gentoo build
trinque: yeah, "hardened" subproject
trinque: asciilifeform: I moved portage over to openbsd (which had been done once before by another) only to decide the thing had gotten far too complicated.
trinque: it's a mountain of hacks under the hood
phf: even dpkg/apt would be better than portage (note that dpkg and apt lets you build packages from source in a reliable and automatic way, but the setup for the process is not documented anywhere, since it's supposed to be "package maintainer technology")"
phf: asciilifeform: did you miss the insides of parenthesis?
mircea_popescu: if someone wants to negrate you because legacy pile was bad, hey, all the better.
mircea_popescu: dun see why you'd want a positive rating from that mind anywya
mircea_popescu: "v gentoo would be possioble except for x" "so make x" "no because of co-consideration" " so make x' and disclaim the co-consideration" "what is the point of having x' if you disclaim the co-consideration???"
mircea_popescu: "oh, this foul gentoo with the foul python" "bitch, what do you run ?" "same. but i had expectations from you!"
mircea_popescu: what, you want to have a flood and lose it permanently ?
mircea_popescu: "i have this here race track. people sometimes die on it. I WILL LOCK IT DOWN FOREVER!!!!" "what are you, some kind of idiot ?"
mircea_popescu: it's both agreed upon and discussed throughout the logs ; whenever v intended usage came up, this came up.
mircea_popescu: neither new, nor poorly defined. i can do it right now and you'd never know.
mircea_popescu: i create a key, sign the whatever dump ; for all you know a new eulora player signed a gentoo legacy v root.
mircea_popescu: i say hey, this may be interesting ; or someone else does. the end.
mircea_popescu: this conceit that signatures are somehow confusable is very strange indeed.
mircea_popescu: it's not as bad as it seems - eg fiat's mouthpiece can now put me as #1 most influential thingamabob in "blockchain" discreetely.
phf: we already have a method, which is a list of sha512 signed with a corresponding disclaimer. can do the same for any complicated project, like gentoo "here's the stage3, here's sigs for all the packages that you might possibly install"
phf: oh i guess the idea is to v-ify all those packages..
mircea_popescu: or more generally - any reclaimed codebase the republic intends to clean up and use.
phf: also requires general solution to binary problem
trinque: if I decide to clean up a bum and put him to work, I am going to have to accept the risk that he burns my damn barn down.
trinque: there isn't a way to insulate from it and still bother with the bum
trinque: "how do I get the bootstrap compiler onto the thing" aside other binary blob needs
trinque: gotta start with a running compiler somewhere
trinque: the stage1 tarball is a built gcc and whatever else is needed to rebuild itself entirely, then proceeds with that system to build the rest
phf: mircea_popescu: oh i'm just talking about yesterday's thread. half those packages have binary blobs in them, some easily removable (like images that come with docs, etc.) some not so much (like internationalization PO files)
phf: the bootstrap problem is not trivially solvable.
phf: "here's this thing that you have to cross-compile however you can"
phf: alternatively "here's this 40 lines of asm forth implementation, and the rules by which you can translate it to x8664 assembly, we will use it to bootstrap proto-scheme, that will be ..."
mircea_popescu: haha - eternal gentoo flame. "here's thins thing that you have to uci-compile"
trinque: leaving the sinful steps unspecified might be a decent strategy.
trinque: at least people will not be doing things the same exact way, catch same exact diseases each time.
phf: asciilifeform: i think bsd people like to compile their stack with various "i wrote this c compiler in a weekend" projects, like tcc
phf: it will run like dog, but it will run
phf: only for the lack of trying, but even now elsewhere i'd be a regular trb guru :p
mircea_popescu: can we set aside a day for the o-woe service and be done with it ?
mircea_popescu: yes, it is. definitionally, pointing out that sow's ear makes for very poor silk when the decision to use something else is not on the table is called o-woe-ing.
phf: seems like a very traditional thing to do though, sitting around talking about how everything went to shit since the ancestors went away
danielpbarron: trinque, i'm interested in the hardened one, and possibly also "no multilib" ?
mircea_popescu: if something like this could be made to spit out html via port 80 i'd almost consider moving trilema.
trinque: as with fuckgoats -> cardano, sell every useful increment towards goal
trinque: dedicated gossipd hardware would be useful, even kbps slow
trinque: works just fine, have yet to write something interesting.
trinque: it'll take me some time to have asm skills worth the mention
a111: 2016-10-15 <kmalkki> apu1 also really needs DBREQn asserted to give access to USEHDT IR/DR pair
thestringpuller: shinohai: Vitalik Buterin looks to be panicking about ETH price freefall. He's goin on about how "Internet of Money shouldn't cost 5 cents per transaction" on some stupid vine clone this morning
thestringpuller: it's interesting to see the crusty remains as the waterfall continues to dry out
phf: "airgapped has joined irc channel" i might've just found your opsec issue right there..
shinohai: `Yahoo discloses hack that may affect "more than one billion user accounts", "likely distinct" from hack disclosed on Sept 22, 2016`
shinohai: "A Yahoo rep disconnected the call when asked if their user database was powered by Ethereum"
mircea_popescu: so in random sadness : back when i was a kid, resolution of everything was 1024x768. today as i am no longer a kid, thanks to progress etc, resolution of things is 1366x768, which is OMG SO MUCH BIGGER.
mircea_popescu: notice, of course, that a) it is the same exact height and therefore b) it is idiotically arrogant enough to imagine being so much bigger it can afford things such as... mandatory windows title bars.
mircea_popescu: and so my full screen wine games from 1999 do not fit in my full screen monitors from 2016.
mircea_popescu: (i have meanwhile fixed this, the gutting of ubuntu to make it behave like a silent and self effacing wife rather than a loud and demaning mistress takes a while)
mircea_popescu: meanwhile there's all these "technologee companees" hard at work to come up with random shit one couldn't ever have imaged he'd have to fix IN THE FUTURE.
mircea_popescu: "what do you expect from the future ?" "more shit to fix."
mircea_popescu: 768 apparently has been decided by hitler as THE TALLEST PERMISSIBLE NUMBER OF PIXELS.
mircea_popescu: i live in argentina, coupla hundred buys me this lg crap.
mircea_popescu: yes, if i made it it wouldn't suck. i tell this to people all the time too, "had i fucked your mother instead of that dumbass she lays with, you wouldn't be this fucking useless. go tell ehr that."
mircea_popescu: anyway, to not make this entirely pointless : gtk-window-decorator --replace kills the stupid decorations ; gconf-editor allows you to set the bottom (and top) bar position to -6 which gets rid of it.
mircea_popescu: what a gfx box that wasn't made by monkeys for monkeys would look like apparently remains an open question, ubuntu's not much better than period debian from what i see.
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phf: asciilifeform: not true ratpoison can be configured to render a 1 pixel border!!1
phf: maybe yahoo leak is just a ploy to tell everyone how many "users" they have.
shinohai: Verizon paid the Russians to do it so they could buy in lower.
phf: putin did it (c) (tm)
trinque: those title escape codes have a lot to do with why I use exwm. c-x b (helm-buffers) then a few keystrokes and I can move through a lot of terminals quickly.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at republican camp, my god these slave-made linzer cookies are fucking fabulous.