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mircea_popescu: jurov we want the key data anyway, you know, so as to publish the pages nicely.
mircea_popescu: put the github url or w/e it is instead of the normal comment field
mircea_popescu: i suppose this really ends up in a discussion of "we need a new format for rsa keys", doesn't it.
mircea_popescu: even base64(csv of e,N,string) would be better than the current shit.
deedbot: [» Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Razerbacks, oh razerbacks! - http://www.contravex.com/2016/05/04/razerbacks-oh-razerbacks/
mod6: <+a111> Logged on 2016-05-02 20:05 asciilifeform: ;;later tell jurov observed any spike in trb site traffic ? (it is linked from nosuchlabs.com) << cat /var/log/thebitcoin.foundation-* | grep "nosuchlabs" | wc -l 69
mod6: apparently this started around May 1st.
asciilifeform back.
hanbot: for the record, it's not just phuctor that your friend Boeck [could have done] did. See also [could have] found Heartbleed: http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2015/04/07/7
asciilifeform: and shot kennedy!
asciilifeform: (or... unshot?!)
mircea_popescu: lmao
ben_vulpes: there's a deedbot ripoff doing the rounds as well
mircea_popescu: what the fuck.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: those are old nyooz
mircea_popescu: what is with this, it's self-parodic by now.
asciilifeform: there was a shit-combinator sponsored one at least a year ago
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform more's the point : is phuctor happy with a e, n, userstring csv ?
asciilifeform: right now mods have to link back to keys in the db
asciilifeform: (as in, rfc4880 turds)
mircea_popescu: "keys" ie, fingerprints ?
asciilifeform: as in .asc
mircea_popescu: that's calculated from N no ?
asciilifeform: no, as in thrown in the submit box.
asciilifeform: this is fixable but not immediately.
mircea_popescu: aha. so no cheating here
asciilifeform: not yet.
mircea_popescu: there wouldn't really be anything to throw in the box for ssl keys tho
asciilifeform: not yet.
asciilifeform: unless want to generate a pgp 'box' for them.
mircea_popescu: so is the logical thing here to just proclaim "rsa key, as per the republic, is a e, N, string tripled" and then, jurov can dump to THAT format and you'll import from that format later ?
asciilifeform: aha, but it helps to leave some place for 'whose key this allegedly is'
asciilifeform: otherwise the output becomes a pain to read.
mircea_popescu: "string"
mircea_popescu: no ?
asciilifeform: aha.
mircea_popescu: right. so the new standard for a rsa key is (e, N, userstring), and everyone's expected to produce THAT. ☟︎
asciilifeform: aha.
mircea_popescu: alrighty then.
mircea_popescu: jurov ^ feel free to extract as such and it'll be imported later on.
asciilifeform: https://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/12/27/0044242/gnupg-short-id-collision-has-occurred << vintage lulz.
asciilifeform: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/04/friday_squid_bl_524.html << our old phriend's bl0g, even.
asciilifeform: in entirely unrelated nyooz,
asciilifeform: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1604844025/bloc-by-bloc-the-insurrection-game << via Vexual.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo ^ possibly of interest to you.
asciilifeform: 'In Bloc by Bloc: The Insurrection Game, players join a movement that is struggling to liberate a randomly generated city that changes every game. Each player controls a faction of revolutionaries fighting back against the authorities. The factions must cooperate to defeat their common enemy while carefully balancing individual secret agendas. Build barricades, clash with riot cops, loot shopping centers, defend liberated zones, and
asciilifeform: occupy the city before time runs out and the military arrives.'
asciilifeform: lulzy.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, they're propping him something fierce. fun times.
mircea_popescu: if nothing else, populates teh list of names.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/14F1S3Y.txt
mircea_popescu: "Pedofunding A crowdfunding site for child pornography, “Pedofunding”, was launched in November 2014. It seemed like possibly the birth of a new black-market business model so I set up a logged-out scrape to archive its beginnings (sans any images), collecting 20 scrapes from 2014-11-13 to 2014-12-02, after which it shut down, apparently having found no traction."
asciilifeform: l0l!!
mircea_popescu: i guess a bunch of weirdos have the usg to thank for their wholly delusional belief that child porn is "big business", somehiw.
mircea_popescu: nuts.
asciilifeform: hey all folks with childrenz gotta be deluded into thinking their spawn are worth something...
asciilifeform: or they start to slide
mircea_popescu: heh.
mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/3dfq8s/dark_net_market_archives_20112015/ << fucking dopeheads, i swear
mircea_popescu: i almost prefer the vapid floozies. to hear these schmucks " I feel like this post deserves a montage or a slideshow with music. So much reminiscing and joyful sadness. ", makes my skin fucking crawl.
asciilifeform: 'I'm no longer as interested in the DNMs as I used to be. I was originally lured in by the fascination of watching a small cryptopunk revolution, and I was hopeful that it would go beyond the SR1 model into multisig and beyond. But we have seen little multisig usage, and that augurs ill for the distributed marketplaces. (What if someone built a trustless distributed blackmarket and no one wanted to use it?) Instead, the SR1 business
asciilifeform: model has proven remarkably durable despite the constant wearying turmoil of exit-scams and hacks and as I write this in mid-July 2015, there seems to be little chance that things will change substantially soon. (If Tor hidden services are cracked, the DNMs will simply move to I2P or Freenet; if Bitcoin starts getting too easily tracked, transactions will be settled in Monero or another cryptocoin with better anonymity properties, et
asciilifeform: c.) ' << l0l!!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he's not JUST into lesswrong, wikipedia, bla bla. he's also convinced "darknet" is relevant in general, that a bunch of inept shitheads were "a cryptoanarchist revolution" and, wonder of wonders, that the pill poppers had some sort of impact in bitcoin whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: it boggles the mind, what nonsense people can sell themselves on, for lack of friends and anything useful to do.
asciilifeform: frying brain like an egg with ??? also helps. presumably.
mircea_popescu: he said what he was doing, some stimulant or other
mircea_popescu: modafinil
asciilifeform: that wouldn't explain it.
mircea_popescu: maybe that's just the official truth.
asciilifeform: it is in the logz - this is the pill that mircea_popescu wouldn't even notice if he ate.
asciilifeform: prolly he also ate 10,001 'experimentals.'
mircea_popescu: possibly.
asciilifeform: it is ~also~ possible that he ate nothing.
mircea_popescu: ah, and obviously - fully dedicated to "safety in tor"
asciilifeform: when i was a bored, sn0r3d kid, reading usenet, i sometimes read the dope groups
asciilifeform: and imagined what their 'trips' might feel like.
mircea_popescu: i guess more or less like waking with a headache in a dirty bed with a woman you don't recall meeting.
asciilifeform: nah
asciilifeform: that was imagining-what-drink-feels-like.
mircea_popescu: http://lesswrong.com/r/discussion/lw/9p9/open_thread_february_114_2012/5v6g << i followed this link off the guy's page ; turned out to be exactly as worthless as expected (take the most glaringly obvious point - he protests that polyamory practitioners are rich powerful valuable people [which he can't confront so he has to mangle up in terms of skin color etc, which doesn't make him a racist because rationalism or whatever, t
mircea_popescu: he usual crap] ; it doesn't occur to him that while this is true, the expectation that "all the people" are a sort of given, and polyamory must be applied TO them, as they are, warts and all, as opposed to THEM being applied to it, through an extrudation process which substantially changes THEM, as just so happens to be the absolute historical norm both in theory and in practice - but hey, he needn't know this anymore than th
mircea_popescu: e previous point, he's got a rationalist amulet to protect him from things!), but also i notice - that lesswrong thing is essentially dead, isn't it ? one wiki edit (his), "0 points" throughout whatever that may mean, recent posts nobody cares about, latest diary from February, 5-th most recent blog from last month etc etc. i thought there were many idiots in this thing, turns out it's just a handful of derps that meanwhile f ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ound girlfriends, a la encyclopedia dramatica ?
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz http://annasalamon.com/
ben_vulpes: dag that's some /jew/
mircea_popescu: the chick ?
ben_vulpes: mhm
mircea_popescu: o check it out, openwrt split up.
mircea_popescu: i wonder if it's a moles vs ants sorta split
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: once again for teh illiterate?
ben_vulpes: "moles vs ants"?
mircea_popescu: the complaints are poor decision process, lack of transparency etc. i wonder if the actual valuable contributors packed and left the various hanno bocks, bob becks and other undesirable politicos behind. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: but in other lulz, http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/13996/convert-rsa-public-key-to-the-right-format?rq=1
ben_vulpes: a us bank is willing to touch customer keys? o.O
mircea_popescu: private banks have been using keys for over a decade you know.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-05#1463243 << quite unlikely. you can't just take a tumour off like a knapsack and get up and go... ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 03:09 mircea_popescu: the complaints are poor decision process, lack of transparency etc. i wonder if the actual valuable contributors packed and left the various hanno bocks, bob becks and other undesirable politicos behind.
mircea_popescu: depends on the tumour.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-05#1463233 << pet informs me that 'there is a lesswrong ~diaspora~, self-identified, in a buncha places, even tumblr' ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 02:57 mircea_popescu: e previous point, he's got a rationalist amulet to protect him from things!), but also i notice - that lesswrong thing is essentially dead, isn't it ? one wiki edit (his), "0 points" throughout whatever that may mean, recent posts nobody cares about, latest diary from February, 5-th most recent blog from last month etc etc. i thought there were many idiots in this thing, turns out it's just a handful of derps that meanwhile f
mircea_popescu: but what happened to their home island of caspiar ? it fucking sunk ?
asciilifeform: something let the air out of the thing, and the denizens dispersed to the four winds
mircea_popescu: weird.
mircea_popescu: all analysis seems to point to the whole substance of that thing being based on a very tooth-and-nail neoprotestant stubbornness of collective action.
mircea_popescu: i suppose eventually they couldn't stand each other anymore or somesuch ☟︎
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 410296 | Current Difficulty: 1.7865925777252728E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 411263 | Next Difficulty In: 967 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 7 hours, 41 minutes, and 10 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 3600611471329672289855022328627 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Marcus Benjamin <markymac99@mac.com>; Marcus Benjamin <markymac@charter.net>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/3F884718CC1F7BBD6425044BB98EB5128654EC09BB8F8D8FFE2F4EFA26F4CC53 ☟︎
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-05#1463256 << >> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-05#1463243 ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 03:09 mircea_popescu: the complaints are poor decision process, lack of transparency etc. i wonder if the actual valuable contributors packed and left the various hanno bocks, bob becks and other undesirable politicos behind.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 03:20 mircea_popescu: i suppose eventually they couldn't stand each other anymore or somesuch
hanbot: group projects, in most people's hands, need no further reasons to fail
mircea_popescu: that's a point huh.
asciilifeform: soooooo
asciilifeform: i go and engage with the motherfucking heathens,
asciilifeform: http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2016/q2/241
asciilifeform: and 'the pig enjoyed it'
asciilifeform: as always.
mircea_popescu: doh. did i not tell you ?
asciilifeform: surely.
mircea_popescu: why do you listen so poorly !
asciilifeform: the pig was there!
mircea_popescu: lol.
mircea_popescu: you know, you can be trained to do this right ; you're intelligent enough. but it's a slog, and it's also a lot like learning to play an instrument.
asciilifeform: the sheer stench of 'official science' in boeck's answer!
mircea_popescu: the best policy is to fucking decide if you're gonna or not gonna ; and then do or not do. doing sorta halfway is painful. even to watch.
asciilifeform: well the trick is that it's a heavily censored official organ
mircea_popescu: how's this a trick.
asciilifeform: well, full-bore mircea_popescu prolly would not pass the mod
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, check out what ancient lulz i found on pete's blog http://btcbase.org/log/?date=24-07-2014#766538 ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's nonsense. mircea_popescu is a matter of substance, not form. what oyu call full bore is merely an aggregate of stylistic choices i prefer [and i prefer them enough to put above the needs of others, because i simply don't care enough about unknown others], but otherwise it has an infinity of formal homomorphisms, and necessarily an infinity of those could match any arbitrary formal test.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: then consider applying your methods..?
asciilifeform: that particular list is quite popular among thinking folk.
mircea_popescu: the only problem is that even if you put the effort into bowdlerization, you will not obtain a result better than i do ; because the "formal test" is actually devoid of substance.
asciilifeform: some of whom prolly ought to be here.
mircea_popescu: no, it is not. it is popular among a certain brand of castrato. i don't appreciate castrato opera.
asciilifeform: there are the castratos.
mircea_popescu: and i would estimate absolutely none of the people there should be here.
asciilifeform: not the folks posting!
asciilifeform: the ~readers~
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you perhaps still entertain this delusional hope that man is what he wishes to be / sees self as.
mircea_popescu: man is what man does, no more.
asciilifeform: not really, no.
asciilifeform: man - is long pig.
mircea_popescu: ah, the readers. why do they read there ? they could read here.
asciilifeform: aha!
asciilifeform: so show'em this.
mircea_popescu: their choice, let them make it.
mircea_popescu: nope.
asciilifeform: skin not worth the tanning?
mircea_popescu: what's next ? i'm going to show online sub why i should be her master ? am i under the influence of brain parasitosis ?
mircea_popescu: the principle of the thing! you don't fucking top me from the bottom ffs!
mircea_popescu: here : http://qntra.net/2016/05/phuctor-factors-united-states-disa-key/#comment-56733
asciilifeform: i'm still at a loss how to properly separate this concept from full-bore solipsism.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform let us study this problem together, working on the basis of a 419/russian bride scam.
mircea_popescu: you know what that is ?
asciilifeform: approximately
mircea_popescu: so let's delve.
mircea_popescu: the 419 scam is a particular arbitrage of the knowledge problem. the way it works is that money in modern society consists of a substance and a form. its substance is hinted at by the "aml/kyc" bs, which is a whole other pile of lulz we won't be getting into here. you prefer to refer to it as "X couldn't own rembrandts" internally.
mircea_popescu: the form of money is obvious, in the sense of the taste of food being obvious. it produces expected reactions in the senses.
mircea_popescu: the way the scam works is that the settlement of substance.money does not in fact coincide with the settlement of form.money. this because there's an absolute thermodynamic taboo against coincidence.
mircea_popescu: not all these dts are exploitable in practice ; but all are exploitable in principle.
mircea_popescu: so S sends C you a check ; thereby transferring to you the form of some money ; but not their substance. C proceeds to send S a wire, thereby transferring the form and the substance ; C is out some money.
mircea_popescu: it has a myriad forms, such as for instance http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-04#1462441 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-04 12:56 mircea_popescu: and in other lulz, http://dpaste.com/2Y0VAST
asciilifeform: the thermodynamic 'taboo against the coincidence' is described in, oddly enough, winnie pooh! '"Well," said Pooh, "what I like best," and then he had to stop and think. Because although Eating Honey was a very good thing to do, there was a moment just before you began to eat it which was better than when you were, but he didn't know what it was called.' ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: but they all reduce to "more fluff to make it easier for C to swallow the faux identity painted over a difference"
mircea_popescu: so it is.
mircea_popescu: now then. the russian bride is a peculiar variant of this scam, where the value transferred is not pecuniary, and thus encounters "troubles".
asciilifeform: aha, where the value has legs.
mircea_popescu: aha.
asciilifeform: (money also has legs but they are short and caterpillar-like and thus not perceptible to untrained eye)
mircea_popescu: so then - C wants the hottie ; but the hottie has a blood price. so C pays. except the price is kidnapped on route, so C pays ransom, except hottie falls ill etc etc
mircea_popescu: the sad fact here is that you personally fall for this scam ALL THE FUCKING TIME.
asciilifeform: hm?
mircea_popescu: for instance : the seclist has a hottie (you think, for absolutely no reason - have you seen her tits ? there are rules for being a hottie, you know ?)
mircea_popescu: except there's a price! so you pay the price... except... it's ransomed en route... so you... etc
mircea_popescu: it's ridiculous, stop doing this.
asciilifeform: l0l this begins to make sense.
mircea_popescu: aha.
asciilifeform: i also used to dig in junkyards tho.
mircea_popescu: now, there is nothing wrong with this if engaged in for sport
mircea_popescu: for lulz, for the evulz, for whatever the fuck.
asciilifeform: but it was considerably more rewarding than digging the bocks.
mircea_popescu: but there's something wrong when the brain parasite takes over the brain, and you start pursuing nonsense at the expense of your wealth, your health, your sanity and eventually your life.
asciilifeform: i end up in the pigsties (bock, reddit, etc.) when i begin to think that the alternative is really a solipsism.
mircea_popescu: and as to the bear and his honey, the moment before is called the endorphin shock.
asciilifeform: because it isn't as if i have hitler's actual skull on my desk, as stalin did
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform your strategy may not be driven by your perceived decision space.
mircea_popescu: enemy can fuck with that.
asciilifeform: how do i actually ~know~ that any of what we do makes a difference outside the skull ?
mircea_popescu: how do you know the moon isn't actually made of petrified ejaculate ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: i am not seeing the victories.
asciilifeform: the moon does not default to spoodge in my head.
mircea_popescu: again : the problem of reacting instead of acting is that you'll necessarily be a muppet.
asciilifeform: whereas my actual situation does default to defeat and misery, because that is the actual physical space i live in.
mircea_popescu: now THIS is entirely within the skull.
asciilifeform: not quite.
asciilifeform: speaking of which!
asciilifeform bbl, sitting on the stake
mircea_popescu: it has been the observation throughout the ages that intelligent people are only happy as slaves ; which is how that whole "behind great man - great woman" thing got started ; or why samuel clemens had to get his daily spankings in wife's bedroom. ☟︎
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-05#1463343 <<< I'll apply for a grant and research this. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 13:13 mircea_popescu: how do you know the moon isn't actually made of petrified ejaculate ?
mircea_popescu: pity nasa got its funding cut.
shinohai: "Dear Elon Musk, please fund an expedition to settle once and for all the argument of whether or not the moon is made of cheese of petrified ejaculate from space giants."
shinohai: *or
mircea_popescu: and speaking of neurotransmitters : the most reliable sign of opioid intoxication is decreased respiratory rate. a rate less than 12 where intoxication is a possibility (ie, not outright impossible) practically guarantees it's the case.
phf: a lot of keybase keys are "Keybase OpenPGP v2.0.47", "Keybase Go 1.0.11 (darwin)" and even some "Keybase OpenPGP JS 0.0.1"
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: now THOSE people should probably be notified.
phf: so i got 38479 users, i'm going to download their keys, and then perhaps rerun the crawler to see if anyone else comes up
mircea_popescu: works.
mircea_popescu: and in other breakfast news, http://66.media.tumblr.com/4d5bc82003e288789f8462ad0e9802eb/tumblr_nrhax9qEx81sl4iuvo1_1280.jpg
punkman: gonna work on the gwern archives later, feel free to suggest any interesting things too look for while I'm searching for gpg keys/messages
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-05#1463352 << ahahaha the traditional 'i am mircea_popescu, a demigod, and all ~you~ lusers oughta be in cock cages, puny mortals' ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 13:14 mircea_popescu: it has been the observation throughout the ages that intelligent people are only happy as slaves ; which is how that whole "behind great man - great woman" thing got started ; or why samuel clemens had to get his daily spankings in wife's bedroom.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not MY observation ; but the girl's. i personally neither agree nor approve.
mircea_popescu: punkman pgp keys and key ratings, ie the wot, most valuable thing in there imo.
mircea_popescu: i suppose you could also look for titpix, but... you know, who cares.
punkman: what key ratings?
mircea_popescu: they rate each other.
asciilifeform: did they signed-rate each other ??
punkman: doubtful
mircea_popescu: (no, not on a sane sort of system, but on random and mostly braindamaged implementations. nevertheless.)
asciilifeform: or the other, useless kind of rate.
asciilifeform: one survives; the other - is writing on the beach sand.
punkman: also a lot of keys only went through private messages, so I dunno how many I'll even find
asciilifeform: protocol/promise.
mircea_popescu: punkman well, chiefly why you're looking, to find out how many.
mircea_popescu: there's this loose group of fucktards who keep spewing nonsense a la "cryptoanarchists===us dope fiends set the foundations for bitcoin" and "silk road mattered economically" and so on and so forth.
punkman: btc/altcoin addresses might also be interesting but a bit more intensive to mine
mircea_popescu: some [more] hard data to go with all the rest of the hard data making fools of them can't hurt.
mircea_popescu: punkman odds are you'll end up with the various mtgoxen wallet list
asciilifeform: i have a picture - by no means an expert one - of how these folks saw themselves -
asciilifeform: sorta like partizans prior to red army showing up and reconnecting.
punkman: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.privacy.anon-server tard examples
punkman: that I was browsing earlier
asciilifeform: 'yes, hopelessly outnumbered and unskilled, but all around us is hitler'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is it more or less summarized by pirateat40 harping in chan about how he's going to move the exchange rate and then getting his ass handed to him, publicly, in real time ?
asciilifeform: nah that's just sc4mz0r sop
asciilifeform: i'm speaking of the genuinely deluded
danielpbarron: we don't "signed-rate" eachother either..
mircea_popescu: the difference between pothead and "scammer" as this works in english is slight.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: we do, since assbot
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron what we do reduces to that, yes.
danielpbarron: but not in a way that outsiders can verify
mircea_popescu: quite so.
asciilifeform: http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2016/q2/255 << lulz, i sat on my arse and somebody did the filter wurk for me.
mircea_popescu: in fact, the difference between pothead and esl-scammer is about of the size and substance of the difference between "poor woman" and "whore" in 1700. o, really , you're a good girl ?
asciilifeform: (bock claimed to have used sks dump, but his set diverges considerably)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as pointed out here yest :p
asciilifeform: well no, it wasn't straight from dev/random
mircea_popescu: oh i see.
asciilifeform: it coincided with our set about 80%
asciilifeform: almost like he used, e.g., ft meade's collection
mircea_popescu: i'm going to be sarcastic now.
mircea_popescu: but sure, watching the derp implode is decent comedy. "oh lines match" "well you have 273 lines here and 259 lines there" "oh this is the list" "except here's 11 you don't have". etc etc.
mircea_popescu: the principal property of the usg.misc is that it collapses under own weight, so.
mircea_popescu: "stay out of collapse path" is pretty much equal victory.
asciilifeform: gold:
asciilifeform: 'Now to the 10 keys that have valid selfsigs. Two are for
asciilifeform: alice () example com (and honestly it may be that these one comes from me,
asciilifeform: but I don't remember exactly. I created broken test keys, but I don't
asciilifeform: know if I uploaded any. At least the date roughly matches when I worked
asciilifeform: on this).'
asciilifeform: -- bock
mircea_popescu: plox s/\n/ / if oyu're gonna do email formatted pastes.
asciilifeform: ah yea
asciilifeform: https://github.com/hannob/pgpecosystem << where was this last may ?
mircea_popescu: "we weren't affraid enough yet"
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> here : http://qntra.net/2016/05/phuctor-factors-united-states-disa-key/#comment-56733 << Amazing how people at some point stopped following and reading links for context.
asciilifeform: i'm just lulzing over the - apparently backdated???! - shithub
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo eh they just wanna whine for attention.
mircea_popescu: anyway, is it a mere coincidence that some derp posing as a "free journalist" in berlin is the usg point man for the rsa diddling efforts ?
mircea_popescu: seeing how most of the affected users happen to be in germany ?
asciilifeform: waitasec
asciilifeform: i thought bock was posing as a comp sci prof
asciilifeform: and se333333k0000rit1 researcher
mircea_popescu: no. he's an unemployed (and now unemployable) copywriter.
asciilifeform: lel somehow i suspect that he is quite employed.
asciilifeform: just not in the usual honest-wurk sense.
mircea_popescu: and unfrequentable types are quite frequented. what's that do ?
mircea_popescu: they're still unfrequentable.
asciilifeform: what's an unfrequented-type ?
mircea_popescu: hermits, really.
mircea_popescu: you know, sourdough miners, naggum, redditards, that sorta thing
asciilifeform: ah, folks like asciilifeform .
mircea_popescu: awww. all the effort i put into being polite! gone in an instant!
asciilifeform: lelz!
mircea_popescu: but the point remains, there's a difference between unemployable and unemployed.
asciilifeform: i'm also lulzing re how nobody seems to know about the old pgp standard where fp was bottom n bits of the mod
asciilifeform: until i rubbed their snouts into it
asciilifeform: and even now it is somehow 'irrelevant'
mircea_popescu: expertise means something very different from itself, these days.
mircea_popescu: rather mirroring the difference between understanding and mere recognition.
mircea_popescu: at some point in the 70s the latter became the schoolhouse standard for knowledge,
mircea_popescu: and in short order... cows are expert farmers. because they recognize a farmhouse.
mircea_popescu: in other internet rot news : apparently google knows of no definition for the english world "unfrequentable"
mircea_popescu: this takes the fucking cake already.
asciilifeform: l0l!!
asciilifeform: srsly?!
mircea_popescu: look for self.
asciilifeform: in other nyoooz, approaching the 2millionth modulus.
mircea_popescu: sweet.
asciilifeform: fuel tank has another 2-3 days in it.
mircea_popescu: apparently there's going to be another 40kish or so from phf hopefully before then, which should bridge us over into next week, by which point hopefully either the ssh or the gwen archives start yielding
mircea_popescu: such an unforeseen thirst, this.
asciilifeform: well there is also the ~fresh~ sks.
mircea_popescu: ah right. you got that ?
asciilifeform: slicing it up, takes a while.
mircea_popescu: cool.
asciilifeform: prolly what i ought to do is have it suck in real time
asciilifeform: i.e. host an sks mirror on dulap.
mircea_popescu: yes, and the other additions re display keys.
asciilifeform: but i really loathe the idea of propping up the old junkyard
asciilifeform: yeah
mircea_popescu: we'll end up the master sks in short order.
asciilifeform: then we can start having our plugz pulled daily again, lel
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, it's a good idea. will ease the move to proper key format as discussed yest at any rate.
asciilifeform: ease how?
asciilifeform: convert ancient keyz?
mircea_popescu: sure.
asciilifeform: haha like mormon church converts dead indians
mircea_popescu: quite.
asciilifeform: whynot
mircea_popescu: what's the 8ball at yet ?
phf: are the keys going to be in s-expressions? :)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: still cooking the 50mil.
mircea_popescu: phf http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-05#1463187 suit you ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 01:04 mircea_popescu: right. so the new standard for a rsa key is (e, N, userstring), and everyone's expected to produce THAT.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this weekend i will hook up the real-time grower
asciilifeform: as suggested earlier in logz
mircea_popescu: cool.
mircea_popescu: kinda funny how it STILL pops moduli, really.
asciilifeform: it might be more interesting to drop in random ~large~ primes tho
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: anything ever showing up in the usual 8ball can only be a factor of a random turd
asciilifeform: never a proper key
mircea_popescu: $timesincelastphuctoring
asciilifeform: ^
mircea_popescu: ~10 hours ftr
asciilifeform: do want.
phf: http://glyf.org/tmp/keybase.tar.xz
asciilifeform: oh hey.
mircea_popescu: ahaha win.
phf: ^ asciilifeform mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: thankee mr.
phf: d280f38e56eb4b1a4f6477e18b110d8df3ae9a1545b49a05047f1deff2de94f6f011e2d005c8e1107c2ad11bbd5e589085c50e1305e1b5da832705dd29b515d0 keybase.tar.xz
phf:
asciilifeform: neato!
asciilifeform: it will go in the hopper.
mircea_popescu: these can just go in as is, sweet.
mircea_popescu is curious if this new quality feed will result in a flood.
mircea_popescu: deedbot getting 25k lines in before morn.
asciilifeform: well they'll go in after the current batch is over.
mircea_popescu: what's it currently eat, about 30k/day ?
mircea_popescu: more towards 50 ?
asciilifeform: about 100k.
mircea_popescu: aha. nb.
asciilifeform: could EASILY be parallelized
asciilifeform: but i deliberately did not focus on this piece.
mircea_popescu: yeah sokay.
asciilifeform: why blow entire box of chocolates in one night.
asciilifeform: phf: did you get these with a crawler?
phf: yes
asciilifeform: what % of the total do they represent, would you say ?
mircea_popescu: over 99%
asciilifeform: spiffy
phf: well, from my vantage point that's close to 100
mircea_popescu: the site is eminently crawleable, page contains a reference to people who interacted with a key AND a selection of random keys.
asciilifeform: tbh i'll be quite surprised if any of them pop
asciilifeform: but hell knows.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the estimate from the little crawling i did (looking at convergence of deduped/duped sets) places it at about 40k. previous, extant intel from business perspective said "under 50k". so all items point the same way
phf: i'll do a second crawl, with a slightly cleaned up script, i might've lost a handful at the beginning because of some bugs. it's possible that there's some subpockets i didn't discover.
mircea_popescu: phf want my deduped user list to check that theory ?
phf: sure
mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/3VV8SZG
shinohai: http://www.drcraigwright.net/homepage.jpg <<<< bwahahahaha!
asciilifeform: l0lnoway
mircea_popescu: aww.
asciilifeform: this is shabbatai zev-grade l0ltr0n1cs.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck further damage can be caused to matonis or andresen. gaping-asshole.jpg already anyway
shinohai: inb4 "we did it reddit!"
mircea_popescu: lmao i'm sure.
mircea_popescu: shinohai feel free to post http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-02#1460897 for their butthurt. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-02 11:10 mircea_popescu: anyway. domain reg'd feb 16th, first post april 26th. teh boyz poured their sweat blood an' tears as the expression goes. too bad it won't work.
shinohai: nb
phf: asciilifeform: heads up, archive contains a bunch of users without keys, where the foo.asc files content is "SELF-SIGNED PUBLIC KEY NOT FOUND", presumably that's the ones that didn't upload (you'd think they would 404 instead)
mircea_popescu: should be ok.
phf: yeah, i won't reupload
asciilifeform: sooo
phf: just sanity checking the dump
asciilifeform: i can't fucking resist
asciilifeform: gonna throw it in the hopper NOW.
mircea_popescu: quite the temptation bunny arentcha :D
shinohai: https://www.reddit.com/r/KeybaseProofs/ <<< if signed objects are of any help re: keybase
asciilifeform: 3... 2... 1...
asciilifeform: engines...
asciilifeform: piss on the bus wheels...
asciilifeform: firing.
asciilifeform: immediately we learn that a good chunk was already in sks.
asciilifeform: and about 1 in 10 is a uniturd, these will have to be dealt with.
mircea_popescu: phf any in mine not in yours ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they are being eaten.
asciilifeform: and, i expect, all swallowed before sunday.
asciilifeform: (being pumped in now, concurrently with the remnant of the old sks set)
asciilifeform: kudos to phf for the harvest.
trinque: shinohai │ http://www.drcraigwright.net/homepage.jpg <<<< bwahahahaha! << god damn, teh lulz
asciilifeform: i deeply fail to grok this
asciilifeform: why couldn't hitler have picked a plausible shitoshi ?
asciilifeform: e.g., even bock, could play a better one
asciilifeform: than some rando idiot
asciilifeform: what, it is hard to find washed-up engineer ?
trinque: hitler's fucking incompetent until proven otherwise
asciilifeform: on what principle did they pick a diagnosable, clinical imbecile ?!
trinque: self-selection?
asciilifeform: the sheer... cheapness. of the attempt, is breathtaking.
phf: mircea_popescu: two missing, one of them i recognize from early script bug
shinohai: Thanks Obama!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, phf : misc lulz - http://valerii-palych.blogspot.com/2016/05/blog-post.html
asciilifeform: and other fella asks a notbad question - https://www.pgpru.com/forum/kriptografija/raspredeleniedlinykljuchejjrsapochemukruglyeznachenijaineopasnolieto
asciilifeform: 'why do we crowd keys in 'round number' bitlength neighbourhoods?'
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> e.g., even bock, could play a better one << rando Aussie "wanted it"
deedbot: [Qntra] Hoaxtoshi Breaks Promise - http://qntra.net/2016/05/hoaxtoshi-breaks-promise/
mircea_popescu: phf so then the odds of it being under 99.9% are < 10^-6
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> why couldn't hitler have picked a plausible shitoshi ? << was just discussing this with the gurlz. you gotta appreciate hitler is not a person ; hitler is the fucking google ai, practically.
mircea_popescu: a bunch of fuctarded desk pilots
mircea_popescu: the whole of their strategy consists of a) these people couldn't possibly prevail, for they're "mean" [synonyms go here] ; b) these people couldn't possibly have prevailed, because a, so it never happened ; c) go back to a.
asciilifeform: so why did hastings have to get fragged
mircea_popescu: they can't do anything ; nor can they learn from their mistakes. this is the price pretending exacts of one.
asciilifeform: if 'he's a meanie and couldn't possibly prevail' (tm)
mircea_popescu: he didn't HAVE TO.
trinque: asciilifeform: that was personal with what's his face lurch at the CIA
mircea_popescu: lol, WE are.
mircea_popescu: you know, alf the rape advocate.
trinque: hastings was going after him on some corruption thing, so he was nominally head of the CIA and probably involved in something else that can organize better :p
asciilifeform: hey i consider rape far too humane for these folk.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Nah, its USG. All those sportsball movies they watch with their future fatgendered kids are getting to their heads. The formula is it is never the most athletic player that gets the moment in the big game. Its the loser who "wants it" more. I blame Emilio Estevez.
trinque: brennan
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo they have that, spostsball movies ?
trinque is very curious about what *other* organizations exist which cut through the various usg entities
mircea_popescu: but in other news, http://66.media.tumblr.com/c82f899650e6d91fa732e26d4f3050e6/tumblr_nt3dbuVpEU1uolvabo4_500.gif
trinque: certainly scientology, and certainly that's not the only
asciilifeform: trinque: famously, mexican 'zeta'
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yeah. Mostly about fictional "kids" teams. Tis a disney invention. Gotta start the indoctrination early.
mircea_popescu: trinque as BingoBoingo points out, "anyone who wants it bad enough" :D
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform didnt the us alphabet soup consist of mostly russian agents by mass throughout the 40s, 50s, etc ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: didn't pedo brock actually star in one of these filmz ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik u.s. state dept. strictly
BingoBoingo: Seriously though, what actual coach even of a kids teams is so opposed to winning that the losing whiner gets to play the big moment.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: AHA that was his genera
mircea_popescu: i thought brock was altar boy, not actually pedo per se ?
BingoBoingo though brock tried to "complete the circle"
mircea_popescu: ah maybe
BingoBoingo: You know move up from altar boy to man of the cloth, failed.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://www.databreachtoday.com/blogs/please-dont-pay-ransoms-fbi-urges-p-2120 << possibly nyooz
mircea_popescu: lol right, please. except they fucking pay themselves. a little late for that.
mircea_popescu: anyway. ransomware seems the designated end-microsoft agent.
asciilifeform: in related lulz, http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/05/04/nist_readies_postquantum_crypto_competition
asciilifeform: moar nato lulz, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/05/royal-navy-fires-warning-shots-as-spanish-vessel-harasses-us-sub
asciilifeform: in yet other nyooz, biometric lulz, http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-iphones-fingerprints-20160430-story.html
asciilifeform: '...authorities obtained a search warrant compelling the girlfriend of an alleged Armenian gang member to press her finger against an iPhone that had been seized...'
asciilifeform eagerly awaits the first official 'coke machine warrant'
asciilifeform: '"Unlike disclosing passcodes, you are not compelled to speak or say what's 'in your mind' to law enforcement," Gidari said. "'Put your finger here' is not testimonial or self-incriminating."'
asciilifeform: gotta love the preeets.
shinohai: preeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
asciilifeform: wants a craaacker!
shinohai: I submitted a gofundme to get a designated shitting street named after him in India, but twasn't approved.
asciilifeform: l0lz
mircea_popescu: aahaha if it';s not testimonial then nothing it produces may be entered into record ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: one might naively think !
asciilifeform: but it gets entered.
mircea_popescu: hey, obamatax wasn't a care, right ?
asciilifeform: as material evidence.
mircea_popescu: deedbot- http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/fmpif-closure.txt
deedbot-: accepted: 1
mircea_popescu: jurov : qntra shares added ; f.mpif units substracted ; delta btc applied.
asciilifeform: aaaaaaaaaaaand we're over 2m mods.
jurov: mircea_popescu: looks like you have not subtracted but yanked *all* f.mpif from that account
mircea_popescu: o.O
mircea_popescu: darn.
mircea_popescu: so i have. how much are you owed ?
jurov: 266078-235013=31065
jurov: or just add the div
mircea_popescu: confirmed. adding 6.66810225 to your cash position. what a sum!
jurov: ty!
mircea_popescu: and hey, congrats on a job well done.
mircea_popescu: same to hanbot, even if she was on the - towards the end. and to all others involved.
mircea_popescu: nobody talks about it on rettardit etc, of course, but f.mpif boldly did what nobody else did ; nor anyone thought possible, in 2014 or 2010.
jurov: wow, it was worth 21465 in the end?
mircea_popescu: aha.
hanbot: rip mpif! was a pleasure, even though pc4 didn't turn out so well.
mircea_popescu: was a heartthrob for a month or so there, because it wasn't all too clear how bitbet will unwind. but in the end bettors were paid 100%
asciilifeform: lulzily, it appears to still be on kako's box
asciilifeform: he cleanly tombstoned it
asciilifeform: it now sits silent, bet-less.
mircea_popescu: i suppose there's weirder 86 btc purchases.
asciilifeform: hitler, apparently, didn't get what he wanted out of the corpse
asciilifeform: so left it to rot in the sun.
deedbot: [Trilema] MPIF (F.MPIF) Closing Statement - http://trilema.com/2016/mpif-fmpif-closing-statement/
hanbot: where sun = paperwork
mircea_popescu: and in other news, "Hello, my name is Summer, I am a single mother who is looking for her right Dom. I am currently pregnant with number 2 and about to have her. I am prior military and know how to listen ;). "
mircea_popescu: who was looking to start his whiteboy nigger harem ?
asciilifeform: l0l! dependapotamus?!
mircea_popescu: notrly, looks pretty enough.
asciilifeform: where is it written that dependapotami have to be ugly.
mircea_popescu: 1.72/64/24yo white girl.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they have to be ugly and fat ; otherwise it's housewife neh
mircea_popescu: besides, SHE was in the military. not some relative.
asciilifeform: ah hm.
asciilifeform: $up fromphuctor
deedbot: fromphuctor voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: hello fromphuctor
asciilifeform: who might you be ?
asciilifeform: these people.
shinohai: Thanks for sharing your ip, please come back!
asciilifeform: germany!
mircea_popescu: and in more installments of the neverending lulz, http://dpaste.com/02RH4CT
mircea_popescu: frb.gov no less.
mircea_popescu: which i suppose is supposed to be the fed.
asciilifeform: dump the cert plox ?
asciilifeform: for our enlightenment.
mircea_popescu: it's just a derpy zip. i can fwd if you want ?
shinohai: `niggers.trilema.net`
asciilifeform: uuencode + paste
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform too late lol, i sent it.
jurov: just feed it to imagemagick
mircea_popescu: lol
asciilifeform: l0l ty.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cybersecurity-surveillance-idUSKCN0XR009 << qntra.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: 'The secretive U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court did not deny a single government request in 2015...'
danielpbarron: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2823331/AGOReportFarakAmherstDrugLab.pdf >> Farak testified about her extensive drug use; her siphoning of drugs from the Lab's standards which were used to test drug samples, from police-submitted samples of drugs which were intended to be tested for evidentiary purposes in pending criminal cases, and from other chemists' samples; and her manufacturing in the Lab of crack cocaine for her
asciilifeform: another one for BingoBoingo : http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/05/state-chemist-was-high-daily-thousands-of-drug-prosecutions-jeopardized
asciilifeform: 'All told, she estimated that she was smoking crack ten to twelve times a day.'
danielpbarron: l0l
asciilifeform: ah danielpbarron got first !
danielpbarron: by a hair!
asciilifeform: lelz
asciilifeform: gold:
asciilifeform: 'The report said that the woman began taking the lab's so-called "standard" drugs, the ones purchased from drug companies as a control in testing. "Farak began to consume the Amherst Lab's standards on a fairly regular basis beginning in late 2004 or early 2005," according to the report. "The first standard she admitted to using was the methamphetamine standard, which was the largest or most volumin
danielpbarron: "in other massachusettes newz"
asciilifeform: ous standard at the Amherst Lab.'
danielpbarron: my brother works for a place that makes such standards; from what he described, the stuff doesn't sound like's it's even recreationally usable
asciilifeform: 'According to Farak, the "high" from the drug lasted approximately 8 to 10 hours. In addition, the drug gave her the desired effects that she had discovered in her research: "I felt amazing. It gave me energy. I felt more alert. I did not wish it but it gave me the pep I was looking for." Farak maintained that her work was not affected at the Lab but that the methamphetamine made her "more alert and
mircea_popescu: wait, is this another one or the same one ?
asciilifeform: more let's get this done sort of thing." She insisted that she "analyzed everything according to procedures"11 and that she did all the testing required, in fact "double-check[ing] her work." '
asciilifeform: new one, looks like
mircea_popescu: at some point mass courts were working triple time to catch up with 1000s of dead cases.
mircea_popescu: haha. mmmkay. LAW ENFORCEMENT
mircea_popescu: never ceases to unintentionally entertain.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how many of these until we just declare usg da offices a criminal entreprise wholesale and start prosecuting them for narco crimes ?
asciilifeform: i once worked in a (non-criminalistic, academic) bio laboratory formerly - according to local lore - staffed by entirely different group, headed by phd who was eventually defrocked and disgraced for having dipped into his official cocaine stash
asciilifeform: (it was present for some investigation involving rats)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as if it was ~ever~ other than a criminal enterprise.
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: and in other criminal entreprise news, http://66.media.tumblr.com/44e412c0fbeb869aa3504361a4a13200/tumblr_nsqp2uAgQ51tyw73vo1_1280.jpg
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> anyway. ransomware seems the designated end-microsoft agent. << Please submit to qntra or longform this lulz. With Phuctor happily churning writing this would be a great public service.
mircea_popescu: i've been mulling it over, but... kinda too soon.
asciilifeform: from the lulstream, https://dankaminsky.com/2016/05/03/the-cryptographically-provable-con-man
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo, mircea_popescu: waiwut
asciilifeform: kaminsky's link - hilariously - gavin backpedals...
asciilifeform: get this:
asciilifeform: 'It was a mistake to agree to publish my post before I saw his– I assumed his post would simply be a signed message anybody could easily verify.'
mircea_popescu: unsurprisingly.
asciilifeform: ooooops! i forgot to verify the sig!!11111
asciilifeform: srsly?!
shinohai: http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Mexican-Congresswoman-Declares-War-on-Memes-20160504-0052.html <<< war on memes lmao
mircea_popescu: hey, dan kaminsky wants to piss on his own face, he's more than welcome to.
mircea_popescu: entirely reasonable my foot. "if you call things things then things become things" "yeah, such as your face becomes a turd."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: quote was from - supposedly - gavin's letter to him.
asciilifeform: not k himself.
asciilifeform: (who, afaik, is mainly a spamologist)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ous standard at the Amherst Lab.' << Between this, Gavin, and Trigglypuff Amherst is starting to sound like quite the lizard den.
asciilifeform: $up pjp
deedbot: pjp voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform left him a comment. #112983
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: looks like not surfaced yet
mircea_popescu: i don't expect it to. told him he's an idiot, which is probably all the more unacceptable as it's factual.
asciilifeform: lel
mircea_popescu: but hey, supposedly you should give people a chance.
trinque: I'm glad my recent optimizations to deedbot have made it more stable :p
trinque: (didn't do shit)
mircea_popescu: though i wonder how many times it has happened to date idiot got called an idiot, stopped and realised he is an idiot, fixed his head.
mircea_popescu: possiobly never.
BingoBoingo doesn't remember if called an idiot or not during early ventures to future Republic's forums
BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/SwOcbg4.png
asciilifeform dun click BingoBoingo's photos no moar. esp. not before eating.
mircea_popescu: or after.\
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo single-handedly ruined 'flyover state america' for me.
BingoBoingo: Just wait 30 minutes before eating after viewing photo or 30 minutes after eeating before photo
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Funny because most of the photos are Amherst massachussettes
asciilifeform: i used to picture it as quiet, corn fields, tumbleweed, depressed farmers smoking homegrown tobacco and mumbling incoherently, and other nice things
BingoBoingo: Flyover America has a lot of that so long as you avoid walmart
asciilifeform: yeah but afaik all settlements there now cluster around lolmart
asciilifeform: which provides all the stuff that dun grow from the ground.
BingoBoingo: Nah, lolmarts settle on the fringe of such settlements for easy access for major peripheral roads
asciilifeform: and i'm told now the farmerz have tv sets, which they stare at instead of old, good, wholesome hobbies like sister-fucking
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You just gotta go to the Home Depot and pick up all the fit divorced womenfolk.
asciilifeform: what are they doing in home despot ?
asciilifeform: buying cement ?
shinohai: Whores have to buy their new home supplies with ex's alimony somewhere.
asciilifeform: is today's 'theme' - ecologically-clean!1111, 100% post-consumer recycled cunt ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: or wut.
shinohai: Lulzy but I don't have anymore Qntra in me: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-36210680
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> what are they doing in home despot ? << Hunting the eligible working men.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> buying cement ? << Frequently. But they way it works is by going to a venue where working people go they filter out the Beetus Barges at the door for the most part.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: where are these circus freaks who are supposedly everywhere ?
asciilifeform: believe or not - they aren't here !
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: On the college campuses and Walmarts. Seriously check the dining hall and not just the library.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: actually i go there often.
asciilifeform: ~100% of the gurlz are hot.
BingoBoingo: Anyways. 38 year old woman on the prowl wants a man who unlike her transmayo ex with an office job that can lay pipe, she goes where the pipe is sold.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i thought the more typical american pattern was the opposite
asciilifeform: where a chick is no longer appealing to pipe runners and looks for office bag ☟︎
BingoBoingo: What does they men's opinions have to do with the chick's behaviors?
asciilifeform: same thing employer's opinions have to do with a stinking bum's behaviour ?
asciilifeform: e.g., his behaviour of not driving 'mercedes'
BingoBoingo: But this is 'Murica. If she thinks she can bag a hard working trades man god damn it she will spend a good chunk of her week in that pursuit.
asciilifeform: i would comment but i realized that i've never actually been to BingoBoingo's america, so.
deedbot: [Qntra] United States Surveillance Court Rejected No Orders In 2015 - http://qntra.net/2016/05/united-states-surveillance-court-rejected-no-orders-in-2015/
asciilifeform: prolly closest i ever came, at least culturally, is going through delawre.
asciilifeform: *delaware
asciilifeform: corn fields, lolmarts, the worx.
asciilifeform: even though 'not flyover'
BingoBoingo: I dunno Delaware. Prolly too close to New York and hence corrupted.
asciilifeform: i mention it because it was full of the joys BingoBoingo described.
asciilifeform: including, e.g., 'land whales'.
BingoBoingo: See, they do exist and you have seen them with your own eyes.
asciilifeform: oh i knew that they exist.
BingoBoingo: You just try to forget the horror
asciilifeform: in specially-designated leprosoriae.
trinque: like pittsburgh
trinque: all of PA really.
BingoBoingo kind of disappoint alf declined to comment on Petrocheese qntra http://qntra.net/2016/05/usg-stockpile-of-petrocheese-hits-new-high/
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: supposing that i correctly understood mircea_popescu's corn chronicles, the 'obeasts' belong to warren buffett every bit as surely as dr mengele's victims belonged to mengele
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: confusing post, implies that the surplus is of euro - i.e. actual - cheese
asciilifeform: (afaik eu does not make petrocheese for export or otherwise)
asciilifeform: i am off to - so help me satan - a golf field.
asciilifeform: for wurk!!
asciilifeform bbl.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-05#1463753 << wtf, nobody wants a noob cunt anymore than a noob computer science expert. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 18:51 asciilifeform: is today's 'theme' - ecologically-clean!1111, 100% post-consumer recycled cunt ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-05#1463765 << notrly. too many office drones in the "civilised" world. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 19:05 asciilifeform: where a chick is no longer appealing to pipe runners and looks for office bag
mircea_popescu: time's not kind to women, but genetics are, and even time's not THAT unkind. nothing can touch the horror puritanism wreaks once it gets going.