mircea_popescu: jurov we want the key data anyway, you know, so as to publish the pages nicely.
mircea_popescu: put the github url or w/e it is instead of the normal comment field
mircea_popescu: i suppose this really ends up in a discussion of "we need a new format for rsa keys", doesn't it.
mircea_popescu: even base64(csv of e,N,string) would be better than the current shit.
mod6: <+a111> Logged on 2016-05-02 20:05 asciilifeform: ;;later tell jurov observed any spike in trb site traffic ? (it is linked from nosuchlabs.com) << cat /var/log/thebitcoin.foundation-* | grep "nosuchlabs" | wc -l 69
mod6: apparently this started around May 1st.
ben_vulpes: there's a deedbot ripoff doing the rounds as well
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform more's the point : is phuctor happy with a e, n, userstring csv ?
mircea_popescu: there wouldn't really be anything to throw in the box for ssl keys tho
mircea_popescu: so is the logical thing here to just proclaim "rsa key, as per the republic, is a e, N, string tripled" and then, jurov can dump to THAT format and you'll import from that format later ?
mircea_popescu: right. so the new standard for a rsa key is (e, N, userstring), and everyone's expected to produce THAT.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: jurov ^ feel free to extract as such and it'll be imported later on.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, they're propping him something fierce. fun times.
mircea_popescu: "Pedofunding A crowdfunding site for child pornography, “Pedofunding”, was launched in November 2014. It seemed like possibly the birth of a new black-market business model so I set up a logged-out scrape to archive its beginnings (sans any images), collecting 20 scrapes from 2014-11-13 to 2014-12-02, after which it shut down, apparently having found no traction."
mircea_popescu: i guess a bunch of weirdos have the usg to thank for their wholly delusional belief that child porn is "big business", somehiw.
mircea_popescu: i almost prefer the vapid floozies. to hear these schmucks " I feel like this post deserves a montage or a slideshow with music. So much reminiscing and joyful sadness. ", makes my skin fucking crawl.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he's not JUST into lesswrong, wikipedia, bla bla. he's also convinced "darknet" is relevant in general, that a bunch of inept shitheads were "a cryptoanarchist revolution" and, wonder of wonders, that the pill poppers had some sort of impact in bitcoin whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: it boggles the mind, what nonsense people can sell themselves on, for lack of friends and anything useful to do.
mircea_popescu: ah, and obviously - fully dedicated to "safety in tor"
mircea_popescu: i guess more or less like waking with a headache in a dirty bed with a woman you don't recall meeting.
mircea_popescu:
http://lesswrong.com/r/discussion/lw/9p9/open_thread_february_114_2012/5v6g << i followed this link off the guy's page ; turned out to be exactly as worthless as expected (take the most glaringly obvious point - he protests that polyamory practitioners are rich powerful valuable people [which he can't confront so he has to mangle up in terms of skin color etc, which doesn't make him a racist because rationalism or whatever, t
mircea_popescu: he usual crap] ; it doesn't occur to him that while this is true, the expectation that "all the people" are a sort of given, and polyamory must be applied TO them, as they are, warts and all, as opposed to THEM being applied to it, through an extrudation process which substantially changes THEM, as just so happens to be the absolute historical norm both in theory and in practice - but hey, he needn't know this anymore than th
mircea_popescu: e previous point, he's got a rationalist amulet to protect him from things!), but also i notice - that lesswrong thing is essentially dead, isn't it ? one wiki edit (his), "0 points" throughout whatever that may mean, recent posts nobody cares about, latest diary from February, 5-th most recent blog from last month etc etc. i thought there were many idiots in this thing, turns out it's just a handful of derps that meanwhile f
☟︎ ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: once again for teh illiterate?
mircea_popescu: the complaints are poor decision process, lack of transparency etc. i wonder if the actual valuable contributors packed and left the various hanno bocks, bob becks and other undesirable politicos behind.
☟︎☟︎ ben_vulpes: a us bank is willing to touch customer keys? o.O
mircea_popescu: private banks have been using keys for over a decade you know.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 03:09 mircea_popescu: the complaints are poor decision process, lack of transparency etc. i wonder if the actual valuable contributors packed and left the various hanno bocks, bob becks and other undesirable politicos behind.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 02:57 mircea_popescu: e previous point, he's got a rationalist amulet to protect him from things!), but also i notice - that lesswrong thing is essentially dead, isn't it ? one wiki edit (his), "0 points" throughout whatever that may mean, recent posts nobody cares about, latest diary from February, 5-th most recent blog from last month etc etc. i thought there were many idiots in this thing, turns out it's just a handful of derps that meanwhile f
mircea_popescu: but what happened to their home island of caspiar ? it fucking sunk ?
mircea_popescu: all analysis seems to point to the whole substance of that thing being based on a very tooth-and-nail neoprotestant stubbornness of collective action.
mircea_popescu: i suppose eventually they couldn't stand each other anymore or somesuch
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a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 03:09 mircea_popescu: the complaints are poor decision process, lack of transparency etc. i wonder if the actual valuable contributors packed and left the various hanno bocks, bob becks and other undesirable politicos behind.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 03:20 mircea_popescu: i suppose eventually they couldn't stand each other anymore or somesuch
hanbot: group projects, in most people's hands, need no further reasons to fail
mircea_popescu: you know, you can be trained to do this right ; you're intelligent enough. but it's a slog, and it's also a lot like learning to play an instrument.
mircea_popescu: the best policy is to fucking decide if you're gonna or not gonna ; and then do or not do. doing sorta halfway is painful. even to watch.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's nonsense. mircea_popescu is a matter of substance, not form. what oyu call full bore is merely an aggregate of stylistic choices i prefer [and i prefer them enough to put above the needs of others, because i simply don't care enough about unknown others], but otherwise it has an infinity of formal homomorphisms, and necessarily an infinity of those could match any arbitrary formal test.
mircea_popescu: the only problem is that even if you put the effort into bowdlerization, you will not obtain a result better than i do ; because the "formal test" is actually devoid of substance.
mircea_popescu: no, it is not. it is popular among a certain brand of castrato. i don't appreciate castrato opera.
mircea_popescu: and i would estimate absolutely none of the people there should be here.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you perhaps still entertain this delusional hope that man is what he wishes to be / sees self as.
mircea_popescu: ah, the readers. why do they read there ? they could read here.
mircea_popescu: what's next ? i'm going to show online sub why i should be her master ? am i under the influence of brain parasitosis ?
mircea_popescu: the principle of the thing! you don't fucking top me from the bottom ffs!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform let us study this problem together, working on the basis of a 419/russian bride scam.
mircea_popescu: the 419 scam is a particular arbitrage of the knowledge problem. the way it works is that money in modern society consists of a substance and a form. its substance is hinted at by the "aml/kyc" bs, which is a whole other pile of lulz we won't be getting into here. you prefer to refer to it as "X couldn't own rembrandts" internally.
mircea_popescu: the form of money is obvious, in the sense of the taste of food being obvious. it produces expected reactions in the senses.
mircea_popescu: the way the scam works is that the settlement of substance.money does not in fact coincide with the settlement of form.money. this because there's an absolute thermodynamic taboo against coincidence.
mircea_popescu: not all these dts are exploitable in practice ; but all are exploitable in principle.
mircea_popescu: so S sends C you a check ; thereby transferring to you the form of some money ; but not their substance. C proceeds to send S a wire, thereby transferring the form and the substance ; C is out some money.
mircea_popescu: but they all reduce to "more fluff to make it easier for C to swallow the faux identity painted over a difference"
mircea_popescu: now then. the russian bride is a peculiar variant of this scam, where the value transferred is not pecuniary, and thus encounters "troubles".
mircea_popescu: so then - C wants the hottie ; but the hottie has a blood price. so C pays. except the price is kidnapped on route, so C pays ransom, except hottie falls ill etc etc
mircea_popescu: the sad fact here is that you personally fall for this scam ALL THE FUCKING TIME.
mircea_popescu: for instance : the seclist has a hottie (you think, for absolutely no reason - have you seen her tits ? there are rules for being a hottie, you know ?)
mircea_popescu: except there's a price! so you pay the price... except... it's ransomed en route... so you... etc
mircea_popescu: now, there is nothing wrong with this if engaged in for sport
mircea_popescu: but there's something wrong when the brain parasite takes over the brain, and you start pursuing nonsense at the expense of your wealth, your health, your sanity and eventually your life.
mircea_popescu: and as to the bear and his honey, the moment before is called the endorphin shock.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform your strategy may not be driven by your perceived decision space.
mircea_popescu: how do you know the moon isn't actually made of petrified ejaculate ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: again : the problem of reacting instead of acting is that you'll necessarily be a muppet.
mircea_popescu: it has been the observation throughout the ages that intelligent people are only happy as slaves ; which is how that whole "behind great man - great woman" thing got started ; or why samuel clemens had to get his daily spankings in wife's bedroom.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 13:13 mircea_popescu: how do you know the moon isn't actually made of petrified ejaculate ?
shinohai: "Dear Elon Musk, please fund an expedition to settle once and for all the argument of whether or not the moon is made of cheese of petrified ejaculate from space giants."
mircea_popescu: and speaking of neurotransmitters : the most reliable sign of opioid intoxication is decreased respiratory rate. a rate less than 12 where intoxication is a possibility (ie, not outright impossible) practically guarantees it's the case.
phf: a lot of keybase keys are "Keybase OpenPGP v2.0.47", "Keybase Go 1.0.11 (darwin)" and even some "Keybase OpenPGP JS 0.0.1"
phf: so i got 38479 users, i'm going to download their keys, and then perhaps rerun the crawler to see if anyone else comes up
punkman: gonna work on the gwern archives later, feel free to suggest any interesting things too look for while I'm searching for gpg keys/messages
a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 13:14 mircea_popescu: it has been the observation throughout the ages that intelligent people are only happy as slaves ; which is how that whole "behind great man - great woman" thing got started ; or why samuel clemens had to get his daily spankings in wife's bedroom.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not MY observation ; but the girl's. i personally neither agree nor approve.
mircea_popescu: punkman pgp keys and key ratings, ie the wot, most valuable thing in there imo.
mircea_popescu: i suppose you could also look for titpix, but... you know, who cares.
mircea_popescu: (no, not on a sane sort of system, but on random and mostly braindamaged implementations. nevertheless.)
punkman: also a lot of keys only went through private messages, so I dunno how many I'll even find
mircea_popescu: punkman well, chiefly why you're looking, to find out how many.
mircea_popescu: there's this loose group of fucktards who keep spewing nonsense a la "cryptoanarchists===us dope fiends set the foundations for bitcoin" and "silk road mattered economically" and so on and so forth.
punkman: btc/altcoin addresses might also be interesting but a bit more intensive to mine
mircea_popescu: some [more] hard data to go with all the rest of the hard data making fools of them can't hurt.
mircea_popescu: punkman odds are you'll end up with the various mtgoxen wallet list
punkman: that I was browsing earlier
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is it more or less summarized by pirateat40 harping in chan about how he's going to move the exchange rate and then getting his ass handed to him, publicly, in real time ?
mircea_popescu: the difference between pothead and "scammer" as this works in english is slight.
mircea_popescu: in fact, the difference between pothead and esl-scammer is about of the size and substance of the difference between "poor woman" and "whore" in 1700. o, really , you're a good girl ?
mircea_popescu: but sure, watching the derp implode is decent comedy. "oh lines match" "well you have 273 lines here and 259 lines there" "oh this is the list" "except here's 11 you don't have". etc etc.
mircea_popescu: the principal property of the usg.misc is that it collapses under own weight, so.
mircea_popescu: "stay out of collapse path" is pretty much equal victory.
mircea_popescu: plox s/\n/ / if oyu're gonna do email formatted pastes.
mircea_popescu: anyway, is it a mere coincidence that some derp posing as a "free journalist" in berlin is the usg point man for the rsa diddling efforts ?
mircea_popescu: seeing how most of the affected users happen to be in germany ?
mircea_popescu: no. he's an unemployed (and now unemployable) copywriter.
mircea_popescu: and unfrequentable types are quite frequented. what's that do ?
mircea_popescu: you know, sourdough miners, naggum, redditards, that sorta thing
mircea_popescu: awww. all the effort i put into being polite! gone in an instant!
mircea_popescu: but the point remains, there's a difference between unemployable and unemployed.
mircea_popescu: expertise means something very different from itself, these days.
mircea_popescu: rather mirroring the difference between understanding and mere recognition.
mircea_popescu: at some point in the 70s the latter became the schoolhouse standard for knowledge,
mircea_popescu: and in short order... cows are expert farmers. because they recognize a farmhouse.
mircea_popescu: in other internet rot news : apparently google knows of no definition for the english world "unfrequentable"
mircea_popescu: apparently there's going to be another 40kish or so from phf hopefully before then, which should bridge us over into next week, by which point hopefully either the ssh or the gwen archives start yielding
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, it's a good idea. will ease the move to proper key format as discussed yest at any rate.
phf: are the keys going to be in s-expressions? :)
a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 01:04 mircea_popescu: right. so the new standard for a rsa key is (e, N, userstring), and everyone's expected to produce THAT.
phf: ^ asciilifeform mircea_popescu
phf: d280f38e56eb4b1a4f6477e18b110d8df3ae9a1545b49a05047f1deff2de94f6f011e2d005c8e1107c2ad11bbd5e589085c50e1305e1b5da832705dd29b515d0 keybase.tar.xz
mircea_popescu is curious if this new quality feed will result in a flood.
phf: well, from my vantage point that's close to 100
mircea_popescu: the site is eminently crawleable, page contains a reference to people who interacted with a key AND a selection of random keys.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the estimate from the little crawling i did (looking at convergence of deduped/duped sets) places it at about 40k. previous, extant intel from business perspective said "under 50k". so all items point the same way
phf: i'll do a second crawl, with a slightly cleaned up script, i might've lost a handful at the beginning because of some bugs. it's possible that there's some subpockets i didn't discover.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck further damage can be caused to matonis or andresen. gaping-asshole.jpg already anyway
a111: Logged on 2016-05-02 11:10 mircea_popescu: anyway. domain reg'd feb 16th, first post april 26th. teh boyz poured their sweat blood an' tears as the expression goes. too bad it won't work.
phf: asciilifeform: heads up, archive contains a bunch of users without keys, where the foo.asc files content is "SELF-SIGNED PUBLIC KEY NOT FOUND", presumably that's the ones that didn't upload (you'd think they would 404 instead)
phf: yeah, i won't reupload
phf: just sanity checking the dump
trinque: hitler's fucking incompetent until proven otherwise
phf: mircea_popescu: two missing, one of them i recognize from early script bug
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> e.g., even bock, could play a better one << rando Aussie "wanted it"
mircea_popescu: phf so then the odds of it being under 99.9% are < 10^-6
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> why couldn't hitler have picked a plausible shitoshi ? << was just discussing this with the gurlz. you gotta appreciate hitler is not a person ; hitler is the fucking google ai, practically.
mircea_popescu: the whole of their strategy consists of a) these people couldn't possibly prevail, for they're "mean" [synonyms go here] ; b) these people couldn't possibly have prevailed, because a, so it never happened ; c) go back to a.
mircea_popescu: they can't do anything ; nor can they learn from their mistakes. this is the price pretending exacts of one.
trinque: asciilifeform: that was personal with what's his face lurch at the CIA
trinque: hastings was going after him on some corruption thing, so he was nominally head of the CIA and probably involved in something else that can organize better :p
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Nah, its USG. All those sportsball movies they watch with their future fatgendered kids are getting to their heads. The formula is it is never the most athletic player that gets the moment in the big game. Its the loser who "wants it" more. I blame Emilio Estevez.
trinque is very curious about what *other* organizations exist which cut through the various usg entities
trinque: certainly scientology, and certainly that's not the only
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yeah. Mostly about fictional "kids" teams. Tis a disney invention. Gotta start the indoctrination early.
mircea_popescu: trinque as BingoBoingo points out, "anyone who wants it bad enough" :D
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform didnt the us alphabet soup consist of mostly russian agents by mass throughout the 40s, 50s, etc ?
BingoBoingo: Seriously though, what actual coach even of a kids teams is so opposed to winning that the losing whiner gets to play the big moment.
mircea_popescu: i thought brock was altar boy, not actually pedo per se ?
BingoBoingo though brock tried to "complete the circle"
BingoBoingo: You know move up from altar boy to man of the cloth, failed.
mircea_popescu: lol right, please. except they fucking pay themselves. a little late for that.
mircea_popescu: anyway. ransomware seems the designated end-microsoft agent.
shinohai: preeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
shinohai: I submitted a gofundme to get a designated shitting street named after him in India, but twasn't approved.
mircea_popescu: aahaha if it';s not testimonial then nothing it produces may be entered into record ?
mircea_popescu: jurov : qntra shares added ; f.mpif units substracted ; delta btc applied.
jurov: mircea_popescu: looks like you have not subtracted but yanked *all* f.mpif from that account
jurov: 266078-235013=31065
jurov: or just add the div
mircea_popescu: confirmed. adding 6.66810225 to your cash position. what a sum!
mircea_popescu: same to hanbot, even if she was on the - towards the end. and to all others involved.
mircea_popescu: nobody talks about it on rettardit etc, of course, but f.mpif boldly did what nobody else did ; nor anyone thought possible, in 2014 or 2010.
jurov: wow, it was worth 21465 in the end?
hanbot: rip mpif! was a pleasure, even though pc4 didn't turn out so well.
mircea_popescu: was a heartthrob for a month or so there, because it wasn't all too clear how bitbet will unwind. but in the end bettors were paid 100%
mircea_popescu: and in other news, "Hello, my name is Summer, I am a single mother who is looking for her right Dom. I am currently pregnant with number 2 and about to have her. I am prior military and know how to listen ;). "
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they have to be ugly and fat ; otherwise it's housewife neh
deedbot: fromphuctor voiced for 30 minutes.
shinohai: Thanks for sharing your ip, please come back!
jurov: just feed it to imagemagick
danielpbarron: my brother works for a place that makes such standards; from what he described, the stuff doesn't sound like's it's even recreationally usable
mircea_popescu: at some point mass courts were working triple time to catch up with 1000s of dead cases.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how many of these until we just declare usg da offices a criminal entreprise wholesale and start prosecuting them for narco crimes ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> anyway. ransomware seems the designated end-microsoft agent. << Please submit to qntra or longform this lulz. With Phuctor happily churning writing this would be a great public service.
mircea_popescu: hey, dan kaminsky wants to piss on his own face, he's more than welcome to.
mircea_popescu: entirely reasonable my foot. "if you call things things then things become things" "yeah, such as your face becomes a turd."
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ous standard at the Amherst Lab.' << Between this, Gavin, and Trigglypuff Amherst is starting to sound like quite the lizard den.
deedbot: pjp voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: i don't expect it to. told him he's an idiot, which is probably all the more unacceptable as it's factual.
trinque: I'm glad my recent optimizations to deedbot have made it more stable :p
mircea_popescu: though i wonder how many times it has happened to date idiot got called an idiot, stopped and realised he is an idiot, fixed his head.
BingoBoingo doesn't remember if called an idiot or not during early ventures to future Republic's forums
BingoBoingo: Just wait 30 minutes before eating after viewing photo or 30 minutes after eeating before photo
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Funny because most of the photos are Amherst massachussettes
BingoBoingo: Flyover America has a lot of that so long as you avoid walmart
BingoBoingo: Nah, lolmarts settle on the fringe of such settlements for easy access for major peripheral roads
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You just gotta go to the Home Depot and pick up all the fit divorced womenfolk.
shinohai: Whores have to buy their new home supplies with ex's alimony somewhere.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> what are they doing in home despot ? << Hunting the eligible working men.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> buying cement ? << Frequently. But they way it works is by going to a venue where working people go they filter out the Beetus Barges at the door for the most part.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: On the college campuses and Walmarts. Seriously check the dining hall and not just the library.
BingoBoingo: Anyways. 38 year old woman on the prowl wants a man who unlike her transmayo ex with an office job that can lay pipe, she goes where the pipe is sold.
BingoBoingo: What does they men's opinions have to do with the chick's behaviors?
BingoBoingo: But this is 'Murica. If she thinks she can bag a hard working trades man god damn it she will spend a good chunk of her week in that pursuit.
BingoBoingo: I dunno Delaware. Prolly too close to New York and hence corrupted.
BingoBoingo: See, they do exist and you have seen them with your own eyes.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 18:51 asciilifeform: is today's 'theme' - ecologically-clean!1111, 100% post-consumer recycled cunt ?
a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 19:05 asciilifeform: where a chick is no longer appealing to pipe runners and looks for office bag
mircea_popescu: time's not kind to women, but genetics are, and even time's not THAT unkind. nothing can touch the horror puritanism wreaks once it gets going.