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billymg: hanbot_abroad: if you want to take a look i just published a draft of the vpatch. i think more can be done in terms of cleanup of the old code but i wanted to get some eyes on it before doing another pass
mp_en_viaje: anyways, to fix the tard's definition, since i had to fucking link idiots : epic does not mean "massive and imposing in scale or size". i get ~why~ socialism/ourdemocracy would THINK SO, but it's still not true. epic means "a story of men". quite literally, that's what it is, the discussion of heroes in heroic terms.
billymg: in terms of what i'd see myself doing, i think the most important task for the rest of my life is to protect my keys, if i can do that then i should be fine
diana_coman: re flipping them in one's head: I'm sure it comes with practice but I'm not yet there; and yes, it's more of my shortcoming that I keep tripping on this but atm this is how it is; generally speaking I don't think the ideal is to think in terms of role rather than (any) direction but there are the (historical as you noted) left/right shift/rotate which inevitably still bring direction in for me.
mp_en_viaje: and i don't mean JUST bitcoin. think of the problem in terms of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-31#1906304 : fetlife hires engineer to add "impossible to guess" parameters to its laughingstock of a codebase. mp is unincluded in the ☝︎
mircea_popescu: poor woman, bereft of letters. i always read it in THOSE terms, "if you can't think and can't use language, AT LEAST FUCKING SLEEP!!!"
asciilifeform: i dun think it even makes sense to think of the problem in terms of 'write a new ada' tho. the way i see ada, is as a junkyard wars workaround against the retardation of pc arch, where pointerolade, overflowable arrays, etc. if you had a sane arch, you could program in moar or less whatever you want (e.g on bolix, ada, fortran, c, lisp, were implemented as simply skins around the arch, and all shared in the nonoverflowability etc )
mircea_popescu: this was fashionable in the 1800s, but to my eye today, better way to think of species is in terms of immune system protein trees.
mircea_popescu: one way to think of species is in terms of morphology, classify-by-what-it-looks-like.
Mocky: they think in terms of nanny state policies and what policies statistical facts would imply
mircea_popescu: it's my considered opinion that taking "the american experience" into consideration for any practical purpose is fundamentally stupid. might as well think in terms of "hey mr wright, this bird of yours is ok, but does it lay eggs ?"
mircea_popescu: no mata haris, fine, sure. think of it in game theoretic terms, if you will ?
Mocky: in terms of actual traders, the guy actually trading on localbitcoins pulled his ad. So I posted my own ad up. It's been up for some time now, more than a week i think. no locals contacted me yet
mircea_popescu: ave1 eulora is very slim margin, losing as much as 1% could take you out entirely. think in terms of closed systems, such as "what is acceptable oxygen loss in space station" or i guess http://trilema.com/2016/what-lasts-forever/ etc discussions of prices and value
mircea_popescu: very plainly put : that the elite is tempted to think of the herd in individual terms (which for the herd are inadequate in the sense shoes are inadequate to cows -- too much hassle for too little actual, practical, "how does the shoes relate to me" benefit) ; whereas the herd is only capable to think the elite in herd terms (between http://btcbase.org/log/2015-01-21#985204 and how, say, romanian peasants' imago of "the king" ☝︎
a111: 115 results for "think in terms of", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=think%20in%20terms%20of
mircea_popescu: !#s think in terms of
mircea_popescu: phf specifically, i do not believe "they know that usually they can't get it upfront, because nobody expects to pay for software" is at all related. rather, "they know it makes no sense to get before-the-shipping money". because think in terms of those who invented commerce, to wit http://trilema.com/2014/the-most-serene-republic-and-its-laws/#selection-69.178-69.401 : what the fuck sense does it make for he to pay you ~befor
mircea_popescu: and think in terms of confusable ~by whom~. as far as 50% or so of fetlife female moron population is concerned, they have "a master" or whatever in that vein.
douchebag: Now with that said, I think it would be a very interesting career being a vulnerability broker - however there are a lot more risks in terms of nations state attacks for that sort of stuff.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 16:36 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so this upscale local market ("automercado") that stocks all the shit i buy and consequently got a multi-mn monthly account came up with the very dubious idea of running a promotion. one of those things where you get stickers with your receipt and then you fill a book ? in the terms of the master provisioneer, "they'll rue the day!". i think she's got like twenty of the things all lined up. << Here "automercados" are
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so this upscale local market ("automercado") that stocks all the shit i buy and consequently got a multi-mn monthly account came up with the very dubious idea of running a promotion. one of those things where you get stickers with your receipt and then you fill a book ? in the terms of the master provisioneer, "they'll rue the day!". i think she's got like twenty of the things all lined up. << Here "automercados" are ☟︎
mircea_popescu: so this upscale local market ("automercado") that stocks all the shit i buy and consequently got a multi-mn monthly account came up with the very dubious idea of running a promotion. one of those things where you get stickers with your receipt and then you fill a book ? in the terms of the master provisioneer, "they'll rue the day!". i think she's got like twenty of the things all lined up.
douchebag: I've just been trying to think ahead about what I should do with my life. As of now I have a pretty solid plan in terms of getting started and whatnot, I'll definitely be living comfortable. I'm just not sure what I should try to do after that to
mircea_popescu: you think of sv in terms of what the andressen-graham-etc scammers ADVERTISE
mircea_popescu: there's 0 reason to think in these terms. let the self-important impotent judges-of-all-things-makers-of-nothing wash their heads with their reference rights.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i think "real estate" in terms of "entries in the namespace"
mircea_popescu: of course the computronist would think mod 0 is "an op that dun terminate". but in any case, the "divide by x" approach to calculating a mod is just shorthand, not fundamental. mod is defined in terms of substraction (take x and y, substract y from x until remainder sub y), has nothing to do with multiplication side of the number ring.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-21 12:12 spyked: asciilifeform, what do you think of minimal baremetal implementation of Lisp (RISC assembly only) on something like a MIPS core? I might be thinking this in too abstract terms, it's definitely not that easy. but I'm trying to find a middle way between working FPGA Lisp machine and Lisp on unix.
spyked: asciilifeform, what do you think of minimal baremetal implementation of Lisp (RISC assembly only) on something like a MIPS core? I might be thinking this in too abstract terms, it's definitely not that easy. but I'm trying to find a middle way between working FPGA Lisp machine and Lisp on unix. ☟︎
phf: oved." etc. etc. last tex release (apart from bug fixes) is version 3 in 1990. you'd think(c)(r), but the reality is that layers and layers of cancer are grown on top of it, and when there's a discussion it is in terms of original values, but when it comes to details its "use this lua pdf unicode thing which comes as part of a 5GB package"
asciilifeform: phf: celestial navigatron may not look as 'sexy' as a thermonuke, but it is actually in some ways equivalent in terms of strategic worth : a 10x moar accurate navigatron is worth roughly 100x the nukage! because inverse-square. think about it.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-09 15:48 phf: which made me think that hashes are typically implemented in terms of machine words, so you don't have this kind of issues. fhf might be inherently "unoptimizable" since units that it operates on must be bignums
phf: which made me think that hashes are typically implemented in terms of machine words, so you don't have this kind of issues. fhf might be inherently "unoptimizable" since units that it operates on must be bignums ☟︎
mircea_popescu: people like to think in terms of the former, it's less impedancy, but reality works on lattert
mircea_popescu: think in terms of the old crime world. producer is the fixer, he gets some guy's house for the weekend. director is the office manager, he makes sure all the cunts end up on the couch and all the film cans in the lab.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i mean, when you're thinking of spinning up those mirrors, you (i now suppose) think in terms of months/weeks, not days or hours or minutes, hm. yeah, i see.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-04 22:32 mircea_popescu: think in terms of that cartoon re final cs class at stanford : "and you are the idiots who didn't get hired in 2nd or 3rd year". same deal, whoring is a fine plan for cut-above-rest 16yo. by the time she's 30 she's either married or too rich to care.
mircea_popescu: think in terms of that cartoon re final cs class at stanford : "and you are the idiots who didn't get hired in 2nd or 3rd year". same deal, whoring is a fine plan for cut-above-rest 16yo. by the time she's 30 she's either married or too rich to care. ☟︎
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-27#1590857 << i guess so. i also guess that gns/gossipd are competing paradigms in terms of namespace / choosing how to name things. but they can also be orthogonal, i'd think.. ☝︎
phf: haha, well, we're on the same page. i have a soft spot for shoulder pads, because that's your 80s moscows, blade runner, so i just can't see them in terms of "hear me roar". but i think we had the whole sean young thread before..
Framedragger agrees. (but fwiw i don't think it's legit even in terms of logical analysis, even before practical considerations)
mircea_popescu: come to think about it the early years were better in terms of sheer crazy. there was also atlas, and that dank dude with the festival.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-17#1556039 << think in terms of wattage. how many joules does solid fuel engine pump out ; how many watts can electric engine piss out ? ☝︎
phf: the argument is that technology needs to be entirely routing agnostic, where's now you think in terms of (afair) mappings between keys and addresses
ben_vulpes: when the problem domains are simple, the solution proposed appears to work. in reality, as *tard mgmt demands more features, flexibility, reports, etc, the complexity of maintaining and extending under the frameworkreich becomes more and more costly, a thing not necessarily apparent to anyone who hasn't suffered the saga or who doesn't think in terms of complexity minimization from the get-go.
mircea_popescu: think in terms of "disjointed lines from tmsr logs"
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-30#1493744 << i think of these projects in the same terms i think of "knowledge" in general. same way as there's no abstract scientific knowledge that's somehow "accessible" to "society", there isn't universal good value to naggum's emacs, but there would've been value in naggum's ~to me~ as a kind of abstract node in what i'm hoping is a graph of sane people. same way as "scientific knowledge" is only a kind of comm ☝︎
thestringpuller: "I think we're soon going to see discussions of liability consume this community in a way that makes the MtGox fiasco look simple by comparison -- because it was, in terms of liability."
mircea_popescu: think in terms of nuclear processes. "where are the pressures that create elements heavier than iron ?" "not in this star"
Framedragger: yeah it's probably bull; interesting to think in terms of IP though, whether there's a valuation methodology possible
mircea_popescu: he is clever. to wit : "What kind of intellectual climate existed in that time. What happens when everyone is coming up with new ideas all the time? Think about it in contemporary terms. What happens when everybody and his grandma has his own ideas is… a whole lot of signaling spirals."
mircea_popescu: think in terms of "hepatitis alone" rather than "influenza alone"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform think in terms of websites. they just build themselves.
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> you wish to think in terms of your chosen art, which is meaningless. it's not always the same art that provides the additional leverage. <<< pretty much everything other than the infernal machines has been going to hell, visibly to naked eye. so which art would it be that mircea_popescu was thinking of ?
mircea_popescu: you wish to think in terms of your chosen art, which is meaningless. it's not always the same art that provides the additional leverage.
diana_coman: I think what is difficult to grok at all there is what exactly (even in broad terms) is the offering - what is this millenium of code challenge at core
mircea_popescu: "Yves here. Get a cup of coffee. This is a deep dive into how Bitcoin works from a payment systems perspective, and why the failure of promoters and journalists to look at it in those terms has led them to greatly overestimate its significance." << "come hear my very novel take on why bitcoin is not disruptive because it doesn't do the buzzword i think i understand and for this reason matters more than everything else!"
assbot: Logged on 26-07-2014 18:48:15; asciilifeform: this is why i simply don't get people who continue to think of their relationship with the u.s. court system in legal, rather than military, terms.
mircea_popescu: rought and disposed of (either accepting it or rejecting it) because both sides are present. Conversely, if you set a boundry for Amy in the terms of "don't try and think honey, that's for men, just sit there and be pretty" she might listen, especially at 7, but you've set a boundry for her that has no upside. "Men" doesn't even exist per se. So this isn't an argument that can be considered, it only has one side to it.
mircea_popescu: but hey, they're fiat-based leeches and think in terms of "can i sell this bitcoin"
pete_dushenski: politicians don't think in terms of delivery, they think in terms of re-election and passing-the-buck
mircea_popescu: think of it in terms of, being a very mediocre, fat woman that was writing code. lotta goto's, the ocasional for-loop-by-hand, and no passing by reference.
mircea_popescu: punkman in practical terms ownership of capital goods is very messy. you think gm owns the equipment in gm plant ? as what, outright ? mno.
assbot: Logged on 26-07-2014 18:48:15; asciilifeform: this is why i simply don't get people who continue to think of their relationship with the u.s. court system in legal, rather than military, terms.
mircea_popescu: A tendency to think in generic terms of people, races ... is undoubtedly the profoundest flaw in mythological thinking.""
punkman: mircea_popescu: https://i.imgur.com/pe5i8Mb.jpg << you'd think the us would catch up with the arab world in terms of civilisation already and introduce the water jets. << "if you can't afford a shitspoon, public shitspoon will be provided"
mircea_popescu: https://i.imgur.com/pe5i8Mb.jpg << you'd think the us would catch up with the arab world in terms of civilisation already and introduce the water jets.
asciilifeform: scholars from 'civilization' think in terms of bizarre chimeras like 'failed state'
mircea_popescu: think in terms of "talented soccer players" or anything else, it's the exact same story.
gernika: I think I asked the wrong question actually - but I'm not sure how to put it in terms of causes instead of purposes.
assbot: Logged on 26-07-2014 18:48:15; asciilifeform: this is why i simply don't get people who continue to think of their relationship with the u.s. court system in legal, rather than military, terms.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2015#1245446 << well, it wasn't really his car. think of the us more in terms of a casino. he was allowed one spin on the casino's car, and then if he wanted another spin he had to give them another ticket. ☝︎
trinque: seems an environment to learn how to think in terms of economics
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2015#1173048 << do not define, or even think about, things in terms of other things. it is a horrible habit and a path to idiocy. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: tho thieves often think in terms of "o look, a slow scam is being set up!!1"
decimation: "Apparently the availability of money from NSA had had a corrupting effect on some mathemati- cians, who started to think in nationalistic and jingoistic terms so that they could write their proposal in a way that they thought would appeal to NSA."
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> williamdunne yeah that's exactly the sort of thing. what clueless derp would think of the press bias in these terms ? << Whichever Timothy go hooked into working for Vox faced this dilemma. Staid with Vox to his peril
mircea_popescu: williamdunne yeah that's exactly the sort of thing. what clueless derp would think of the press bias in these terms ?
trinque: I think it's foolish to think of it in terms of that
mircea_popescu: you know, think in the more accessible terms of a hospital.
mircea_popescu: think in terms of impregnating women, trinque. why don't you do it ? because what it... means, what it implies. but imagine it implied exactly nothing. well then ? why not ?
mircea_popescu: think in terms of women, easier to think. "is this the right woman for me, for my life ?"
mircea_popescu: think of it in terms of particles : if muons live a second and meons an hour, and at all times 10% of particle population is muons, then what changes does a meon to turn into a muon during its lifetime ?
mircea_popescu: im not all that up to date to their internal strife, but think in terms of ny mafia. some underboss or other.
mircea_popescu: think of it in terms of throwing bowling balls at a tree from outer space. you won't get within a mile. and if the first ball lands 735`331meters rom the tree, the next five won't land 735`331 meters from the next five threes.
decimation: "Guest: One, we could feed the world without GMOs; there are other practices that we could follow. So the idea that we are prisoners of this technology I think is something that should be dispelled. On the other hand, I don't think we should try that. I think if our water is precious, if our topsoil is precious, if we really care about the hydrocarbon footprint that we have in terms of the amount of cultivation that we need to carry
mircea_popescu: "It's largely engineers who think about it in terms of game theory. They think that if you have unlimited blocksize, then the cost of transactions will go to zero because there will always be a competitor that is willing to include transactions even if you're charging X. They believe this will cause a race to bottom and there won't be any incentive for miners to secure the network because they can't cover costs.
assbot: Logged on 26-07-2014 18:48:15; asciilifeform: this is why i simply don't get people who continue to think of their relationship with the u.s. court system in legal, rather than military, terms.
mircea_popescu: it's a smallish business, think in terms of roger ver's used laptops shop
mircea_popescu: coderwill think of it in sexual terms. "honey let's fuck". "are you going to be around in ten years to raiuse my children ?" "nope" "so i'm loaning you my taxed income in the future ?"
mircea_popescu: dionyziz b ecause you're leaking information through the shipping. think of it in crypto terms, you're using a 8 bit key on an amiga as part of the process.
mircea_popescu: i never realised people could think of toddlers in terms of fat/skinny.
moriarty: xmj, let's try a little credo, i see ideologies as part of a continuum, many of the questions i am interested in lies in the intersection, i tend to think in terms of probability distributions rather than dichotomous epistemic categories
mircea_popescu: integration, for the record, is simply a measure of mutual dependence. think in terms of a couple. the more things they do together, te more integrated they are.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: so you make a commitment to a house that exceeds the commitment you make to the woman in question. seems a bad equity play. << it's a terrible equity play. but plebs don't think in terms of +ev, only in the emotional "nao"
usg_press_machin: Thanks Mircea. I think crypto has a place to carve out individual privacy, but I don't think it necessarily follows that the only option is to view the relationship in terms of conflict. Reading now
mircea_popescu: <decimation> I suspect the median white father would desire to have a white grandchild, does that make him racist? <<< this is very us/midwestern. i don't think a majority of europeans identify in those terms or specifically care.
mircea_popescu: so let's take the baby home : real programmers think in terms of functions and macros,
asciilifeform: this is why i simply don't get people who continue to think of their relationship with the u.s. court system in legal, rather than military, terms. ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎