trinque still accumulates when the weather's nice
a111: Logged on 2018-11-19 20:46 bvt: otoh, if system call asm packages are at the tree foundation, the api uniformity will be enforced by convetion only, and the branches will diverge right after genesis.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-19 22:24 asciilifeform: ( and if you extend on one such, and want to propagate into the others, then must regrind -- but strictly the piece in question )
a111: Logged on 2018-11-19 22:41 asciilifeform: arguably v is a labour-saving device ~specifically for readers~, rather than writers, of programs -- if we were passing signed tarballs around, as we did prior to v, reader would be stuck determining exactly what changed, after manually verifying sig.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-12 06:36 BingoBoingo: Kinda why I'm excited about breaking down and killing the legacy notes file
mircea_popescu: tarball passed back and forth, nobody even knows what changed, gotta diff, it has all the blessings you describe.
mircea_popescu: judging by how unsure all participants are as to contents, it seems evident to me it worked exactly like github program, ie "crapola glommed to end erry day and random shit changed deeper inside at impredictable intervals we might remember or not".
mircea_popescu: seems to me way too much infrastructure for what's still less than a dozen accts with less than a dozen movements / interval in there. but hey, your corp, can't exactly say you don't learn from mistakes, so, if in a position to try things out this is a thing to try like many others.
mircea_popescu: yeah, but because large machinery and no proper domain-restricted walkatrons available, it'd make new classes of ugh available.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-11 16:10 ben_vulpes: and i never used a program because, (again cannot find the log link in reasonable-response time) at one point i was working on a schema for tracking customers and what they were paying for and mircea_popescu said something along the lines of "wtf this is a simple text file and accounting problem"
mircea_popescu: or i suppose construction crew better example. if you issue them pickaxes, you can at the end of the day look at damage "as men with pickaxes could have produced". if you issue backhoe...
mircea_popescu: certainly well adapted to each opther, problem and solution. v is masterful at truth and accounting is all about numeric truth. so yes, in principle. but it'll take some doing, dunno if you've got the doers rightnao, and seems more pressing fires.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-19 23:22 trinque croaks cheeeeeap coiiiins
a111: Logged on 2018-11-19 23:43 asciilifeform: maybe in the end entire planet will end up as vertically-integrated suppliers for s.mg...
mircea_popescu: i have nfi, it's pretty fucking lulzy though. i mean, there's a long list of these defeateds by "fate", but he's one of the most hysterically humiliated humbugs.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: then again, the menagerie's pretty well stocked... recall the gay for pay tard with delusions of oligarchy ? or those two wrestler morons, 100% retired boxer encephalopathy ?
mircea_popescu: i'm personally waiting for the return of the meni rosenfeld / jonathan ryan owens lulzpair. bitdaytrade, segwit, cash-whatever... what the fuck's the difference.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in the sense of what, after usg took overt the piggy it declared some clients as principal victims ?
mircea_popescu: the way british empire intervention worked was that
http://trilema.com/2010/general-sir-charles-james-napier-gcb/ got sent with some army and clear orders to not take singh ; then he takes singh ; then some "british merchants" are invented whose "interests were being protected", retroactively. then all this is published back home in the times, and then the empire croaks under the weight of trying to administer afghanistan.
mircea_popescu: suffices it for trilema to quote a verse, be it howsoever famous or popular...
trinque: asciilifeform: "disconnected by services" would appear to be freenode doing it
trinque: hm nah, box has been up for 32 minutes. this is dc fuckery.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-18 21:59 trinque: taking it the other way, now there's this process where trinque swears to whoever's ledger that asks (fee or not, doesn't matter here). this comes to signify something, trustworthiness, w/e., can go to wells fargo now and bring in this credit report to get a mortgage. now folks come churn deedbot to produce this empty signifier. later trinque is asked to you know, DETECT FRAUD, maybe with machine learning
trinque: lol, he's planning to compete with transunion! get him!
mircea_popescu: anyway, can you check against local db whether it got shenaniganed ?
mircea_popescu: the whole 23 / 25 / 29 then 59 / 19 / 31 regular tri-cycling is kinda suspicious.
☟︎ trinque: I can. The box is also in singapore, not known for its perfect internet connections
a111: Logged on 2018-11-19 23:39 asciilifeform: prolly the only biz that dun have this problem at all, is s.mg, which of oct '18 broadcast reports '8`484.51538878', i.e. capitalized until the sun burns out
a111: Logged on 2014-01-24 13:03 mircea_popescu: like sailing, exactly. you can go just fine either with or against either wind or current
a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 21:43 mircea_popescu: a more even split makes the "solar winds" 0-delta.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-04 19:10 mircea_popescu: this plan to stockpile proper chips etc goes hand in hand with a republic-isp, incidentally, becauyse who else to own hardware
mircea_popescu: what portion of teh 25% drop in bitcoin value in fiat have you managed to capture as notional pizarro stock appreciation ?
mircea_popescu: and in forgotten keks,
https://yahoomessenger.tumblr.com/ ("Yahoo Messenger has had an amazing run. Over its twenty years, Yahoo Messenger introduced hundreds of millions of people to the joys of just the right emoticon for the moment (aka emojis)."). this is the ~sum total of what they think they "contributed", an altogether not incorrect assumption (though "early lulzy deployment of caesar ciphers is what stands in my memor
mircea_popescu: y -- idiots had "encrypted" their logfiles by xoring the csv with your username)
trinque: aaand fighting with the DC about wtf is going on with the deedbot machine.
trinque: looks like the migration to pizarro happens tonight for the bot.
trinque: haven't a damned at the present. I'm just going to redeploy the thing clean elsewhere.
mircea_popescu: can definitely count as "secret supoena" bs, by my lights. what dc was it ?
trinque: this is a piece of shit vps on a service called vultr. the thing was being used as little more than a web-toilet which other services elsewhere use.
trinque: looks more like their backup service doesn't work and has been trying and failing to backup the box for about a day
trinque: but who can say. maybe agent dickweed thought he got one in.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-20 05:04 mircea_popescu: the whole 23 / 25 / 29 then 59 / 19 / 31 regular tri-cycling is kinda suspicious.
mircea_popescu: aha. and then "fixed" and then "reverted" and then a few hours later "tried again".
mircea_popescu: kinda as signature-y as the dum-dudum sound of trained shooter with ak-47
mircea_popescu: minutes ; and the timing not so strictly relevant. clusters of 3 reboots hours apart seem suspicious to me, is what i said.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the #girlscode farms, LordMPofTMSR 3w "Not even kidding." LonelyBunneh 1h "Hi" LordMPofTMSR 6m "Aha ?" LonelyBunneh 5m "What" LordMPofTMSR 2m "Idiot."
mircea_popescu recently ran into refference to this pairing reading old trilemas.
mircea_popescu: i shall now carry the entirety of this conversation in trilema titles.
mircea_popescu: just because they're stupid doesn't mean they're not some mother's children too!
mircea_popescu: the funniest bit being, that the above construction is exactly what teh robohitler's notion of luxury line anti-trilema would look like.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, all the morons still buying into the "ripple" wash trade ? srlsly ? ripple is worth something, really ? even after this week ?
mircea_popescu: takes a minute to knock it in the head to match bitcoin. the relative weights are in excess of 1mn to 1, and yet some idiots somewhere still think ripple's worth more than a used car ?!
mircea_popescu: happened fucking twice, what, unless i package it in lolcats it can stare right there from the graph, eliza dun see naught ?
mircea_popescu: oh, it's bought alright. thence the above discussions of weights.
mircea_popescu: but it's bought with what, haliburton's lost palet of "valuable us currency" ?
mircea_popescu: self-proclaimed "independent minds"/fuckwads GOTTA be hurt. that's what their life is about and for, "options". can't simply submit and worship bitcoin cock.
mircea_popescu: by now it's mostly a sort of "dao without mp's splooge up ass" "but dorks... it has it on the face." "only asshole counts now!"
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's kinda difficult / far from trivial to put clucker "thought" into human language.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-16 14:31 mircea_popescu: for as long as only slanty eyes has horses, all horse races however drafted will have their fucking horses winning.
mircea_popescu: hey, a thousand or two is exactly what usg should have, based on its situation in the world, truthful general importance and so on.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-16 16:41 mircea_popescu: empire is selling orcs the impression "they're in on a secret"
a111: Logged on 2018-11-12 16:45 asciilifeform: we're from neighbouring, if you will, home planets.
mircea_popescu: how do you say "vreau sa-ti spun ceva" in teh russky ?
mircea_popescu: does it carry teh burning of girly lips, "return to the blue lagoon" style ?
a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 18:46 BingoBoingo: Well, they gotta let the price run up again before they waterfall for increasingly disappointing crashes a couple more times at least.
mircea_popescu: hey, venerable sexuate reproduction worked well for all these years. every fifteen year old has a "secret" to share that's as unsecret as unsecrets can ever be.
mircea_popescu: consider for a moment bitcoin valuation in fiat was a monotone function.
mircea_popescu: or of the "it's unfair that guy is a lord just because he read the call back when i wasn't born yet". or however you turn it, it's the same fucking thing.
mircea_popescu: how do you propose to reconcile monotone valuations with cyclical populations ?
mircea_popescu: "oh woe to me, of course mp is rich, he spent a summer with bitcoin at $2" "and what were you doing late nov 2018 ?" "oh, bitcoin didn't look good anymore ; i'll be back to woe my whine once it comes back up".
mircea_popescu: even without those, there'd still have to be drops. it's just unsanitary not to.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-18 17:25 echelon: nanotube and theymos?
mircea_popescu: in fact, one of the principal signals of a dead (ie, divorced from reality) monetary system is...
mircea_popescu: and i dispute natural (and necessary) fluctuation can ~in principle~ serve as indication in that direction.
mircea_popescu: no mata haris, fine, sure. think of it in game theoretic terms, if you will ?
mircea_popescu: suppose there's two countries, A and B. suppose they have their repsective currencies, a and b. obviously through trade there's at all points going to be some b in A and some a in B.
mircea_popescu: suppose now that for whatever reason, A.dorks decided "they will know in advance" "when a/b ratio is high and when a/b is low.
mircea_popescu: so at the coming time, they declare they shall trade a for b at the specified ratio. and B had a bumper crop, and so B buys a lotta a.
mircea_popescu: do you see how the only outcome of this is B expanding its borders into A ?
mircea_popescu: whole point of "bumper crop" is that A.dorks arbitrary value for a is divergent from market value of a. nothing more than that.
mircea_popescu: and this is a necessary premise of your theory, so i'm not introducing anything here.
mircea_popescu: for the ~same money you could say "bitcoin is realligning to its true value driven by systematic failure of tmsr.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sure, but that requires a few joules kinetic and a few terrabytes gnoseologic. as in your quote with "needed dollar to turn screw and million to know whcih one"
mircea_popescu: "singing" in this manner isn't nearly trivial, which is why say dogs don't do it. dogs do all sorts of things, but understanding glass as a system to the degree needed here is rather tall a fence.
mircea_popescu: i'm just saying, there's both practical and theoretical views trhat are both more parcimonious and do not need it.
mircea_popescu: what ~did~ you expect bitcoin/usd will do, if we're retreating on foundation, still not solved pizarro market communication a full year later, etcetera ?
mircea_popescu: it's the currency of the republic, you're so surprises it follows the flow and ebb of the very republic in question ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: certainly not instantaneous. for that matter, no propagation is proven at all or anything. but rather than "mysterious alien forces", how about you know... "in 2017 we hadn't started building a house which meanwhile we did build, leaky roof y compris"
mircea_popescu: do you think less of the man with no shed, or the man with the leaky roof shed ?
mircea_popescu: this for the practical. the theoretical still stands as well : bitcoin valuation in any other currency will fluctuate, because new cunts come out of the skirts every day and they have to be sorted somehow.
mircea_popescu: in deeply unrelated lulz, "masochisticslut1 22F sub 8m 1. stop sending the same message to multiple girls. youre being blasted on social media by someone else." << can you believe this shit, whereby "social media" is so opaque, this "blasting" can actually NOT BE FOUND, i mean at all, even if specifically looking for it ?
mircea_popescu: i'm actually curious if anyone manages to find it. because i dun see it, and i got fucking telescopes.
mircea_popescu: this whole "social media" thing looks a lot broken-er than anyone realises.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i doubt 22 yo fetlife moron has the werewithal to reference anything that happened last week, let alone years ago.
mircea_popescu: no, basically what's going on is that "EVERYONE!!! has read this vice article me and two other girls read (of which one wrote it)". there's this expectation of exposure that is entirely unsustained in practice.
mircea_popescu: i tend to diagnose this by simple measures such as "well, i published x and y, and then 0.k% of sample is aware of both x and y" sorta thing. vast majority of "linkiedin contacts" of miss piggy have yet to see miss piggy article, vast majority of other side have yet to conceptualize "oh, what do you mean OUT IN THE OPEN", and then there's
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-18#1873320 stuff, with all the pics sitting right the fuc
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-11-18 17:14 bullcosby: mircea_popescu: any more pics of her?
a111: Logged on 2018-11-20 17:48 asciilifeform: in 1966! already known! that secretute at terminal means , inescapably as lead poisoning , 'net of elizas'
mircea_popescu: you want "magical goldman sachs" to "resonant frequency" a system of the complexity of tmsr ; and then these people go hiring, and the hiring pool has SERIOUS TROUBLE going past banal "oh, would any girl do that keks"
mircea_popescu: literally, lacking the intellectual sophistication to a) put together items GIVEN TOGETHER ; or else b) realise their tools are broken to this degree.
mircea_popescu: how ? how is this miracle supposed to occur ? random girl that lacks the werewithal to skip past "oh, how would any girl do that" into the "wow, apparently this guy actually has had this occur before ?", by the act of being hired by who ? goldman sachs ? magically becomes so finely intelligent she can somehow distil things i don't see into effectual "oscillators" ?! then how the fuck did things like
http://trilema.com/2012/la mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no but the problem here isn't even "write software", which even ALLOWS for something like an ooda coupling. the idea here is to somehow magic trends and events, splice them together into resonant actionables ?!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they work until replaced. they're not "kept working" anymore than the earth's "kept rotating". guess what -- once it stops rotating there'll be a new set of gnats and motes. there's no "keeping", "fixing" etc.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ( if BingoBoingo determines 'we need 4 dulap-class boxes by feb', asciilifeform will obtain, fly'em in, etc ) << I suspect more hardware is part of the solution. The Mocky mission to Qatar was a disappointment in the orc non-responsiveness.
mircea_popescu: i am willing to swear no traffic systems work as intended in any orcistan.
mircea_popescu: they certainly ~never~ so worked in romania, to the point of notoriety.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i am willing to swear no traffic systems work as intended in any orcistan. << Walking back from the place where rent is paid, there was ancient looking sad bus with police escort. Another U-17 female soccer team. First bus I have seen with police escort.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, haven't been in a long time. was never much of a problem historically, but then again back then only cool people had cars anyway
BingoBoingo: Saw Spanish team in the mall one trip, Probable North Korean team anothe
BingoBoingo: The boys play volleyball on the beach here :(
mircea_popescu: right, cuz femorons gotta sit in the basement and listen to mommy.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-04 00:02 asciilifeform: i recently got hold of local uni's 'student newspaper', it apparently consists ~100% by weight nao of 'police report : someone wrote 'nigger' on a whiteboard' .
mircea_popescu: anyway, now there's possibly the ~upper limit~ of usgistani resonance.
mircea_popescu: play the sports femtards vs the sitting femtards, that's something.
BingoBoingo: Anyways they have basketball here, but it plays second fiddle to soccer because no tall afrodescendientes here
mircea_popescu: basketball even ok girl sport. gotta make the bitches jump, what's so hard about the concept ? it's the ass, stupid.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I finally saw proper gridlock last year on the outskirts of Bucharest because 1. former village is now colony of office drones so gotta get to/from work at same time 2. "road" was still former village ulita pretty much 3. they were also ..."working" aka half of it was blocked anyway
a111: Logged on 2018-11-17 00:28 BingoBoingo: In other news, apparently the U17 Female world cup is in town and the Españolas shop at Tienda Inglesa
a111: Logged on 2018-11-17 18:55 BingoBoingo: In other news, I am pretty sure I saw the U-17 North Korean team in the Shopping today
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The Spanish girl athletes were odd. Ass deficient and giant calves
mircea_popescu: diana_coman you know, even in commie time, they had more sense than this latino same hour idiocy. i distinctly recall various large factory bosses in cluj agreeing how to interleave their hours so as to not jampack the conveyances
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, aha; and I wouldn't be surprised if clasa muncitoare resented them for it
mircea_popescu: i dunno. i actuallty dun think anyone ever asked that "clasa muncitoare" anything.
a111: Logged on 2015-07-12 05:19 assbot: End in sight for Google, Apple, Intel and Adobe wage-fixing lawsuit • The Register ... (
http://bit.ly/1L7gXQV )
diana_coman: sure, not asked; the point was that there was someone to coordinate/think that so it got done; now there isn't, they do what they want rite, so...it's not done
diana_coman: onth it makes easier to avoid the mess since it's all at one time, can't quite complain
mircea_popescu: myeah. at least the local lindora morons have the excuse that well, their "office job" being call center for us corps...
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'm having trouble telling if Spam (my email filter is rather convinced) or earnest solicitation
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo it's spam. you can tell because it shows up on abandoned "blogs" that've meanwhile been added to the spamchurn etc.
BingoBoingo: Still hit that fine line separating parody from reality though I have no interest in assisting "Transitional Government of National Unity (TGoNU)"
BingoBoingo: Back in the hostel days I did meet one fellow from Sudan, before he left he made his dislike of the Montevideo nightlife known
BingoBoingo: Maybe he wasn't used to the hookers being as coy as they are here? He never got specific
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: In BingoBoingostan they hang out at the bus stops and the Whiskerias. They also have a few competing online ad deals trying to be the PedidosYa of hooking
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo so next time ask! << Short fat socially awkward african from Sudan, at the time I figured he didn't have social captial outside of whatever feifdom his father carved
diana_coman: fwiw re trinque's troubles with singapore vm - I never had trouble so far with connection or anything else from Singapore though mine is not virtual anything
trinque: the idiots got back to me and said "hypervisor was misconfigured". I bet it was!
trinque: asciilifeform: eh, give me stable management of pizarro how bout, and I'll sit down more firmly on the chair
trinque: for now I'm using the ability to rapidly redeploy this thing (and hosting the most important parts elsewhere) to deal with the shitty landscape