mod6: hm. i like what it does, but not every turd probably belongs in the chain.
trinque: heh. henceforth you may only deed deeds already deeded!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29035 @ 0.00049777 = 14.4528 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71950 @ 0.00050195 = 36.1153 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22533 @ 0.00050291 = 11.3321 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22782 @ 0.00049797 = 11.3448 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00049797 = 1.7429 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 167850 @ 0.00049567 = 83.1982 BTC [-] {7}
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53381 @ 0.00049936 = 26.6563 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21570 @ 0.00050163 = 10.8202 BTC [+] {2}
mats: it has been busy at the kitten recycling plant
mats: no, work in progress
phf: who typically looks for services like that besides alphabet agencies and antivirus companies?
phf: oh right that would be part of ediscovery
phf: so kind of like "we have this system we don't know how it works but we need to get the data out"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2634 @ 0.00050243 = 1.3234 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 212900 @ 0.00050304 = 107.0972 BTC [+] {11}
gribble: Current Blocks: 389908 | Current Difficulty: 9.34486707963238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 391103 | Next Difficulty In: 1195 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 10 hours, 8 minutes, and 11 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52300 @ 0.00050492 = 26.4073 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7941 @ 0.00050493 = 4.0096 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: props for that go to /r/buttcoin for their archive bot
shinohai: Victoria got testy when called out on their spam lel. My 4th twitter block this year.
mats: asciilifeform: good to know
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32900 @ 0.00049462 = 16.273 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23250 @ 0.00050023 = 11.6303 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31240 @ 0.00049545 = 15.4779 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12812 @ 0.00049357 = 6.3236 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108100 @ 0.00049639 = 53.6598 BTC [+] {6}
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 455.26, vol: 8980.89302582 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 451.924, vol: 8656.66382 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 454.94, vol: 23011.32065649 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 438.0, vol: 0.06027771 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 462.795472, vol: 90346.73590000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 456.0, vol: 67.80392621 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 447.446, vol: 26.91770615 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45200 @ 0.00050228 = 22.7031 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41900 @ 0.00050228 = 21.0455 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37250 @ 0.00049979 = 18.6172 BTC [-] {3}
gribble: Current Blocks: 389934 | Current Difficulty: 9.34486707963238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 391103 | Next Difficulty In: 1169 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 20 hours, 17 minutes, and 43 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
phf: ;;later tell asciilifeform another minimal unix
http://ulixos.org, this one is 31k loc of noweb. has threads and fs caching
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.0005015 = 10.1303 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 98900 @ 0.00049506 = 48.9614 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20565 @ 0.00050172 = 10.3179 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5735 @ 0.00050543 = 2.8986 BTC [+]
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 457.68, vol: 9100.39254540 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 455.002, vol: 9169.10483 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 457.26, vol: 23903.20851982 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 438.0, vol: 0.07037461 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 465.946776, vol: 95604.35230000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 456.98999, vol: 75.51392621 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 448.376, vol: 43.78180127 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48250 @ 0.0004935 = 23.8114 BTC [-] {3}
funkenstein_: musical arranger of note, named after bitcoinica something or other
BingoBoingo: I'm still not certain whether they are or are not the same person
funkenstein_: Speaking of potatoes: Tensions rise in Europe when the Russian government announces that it is launching a new business start-up called Tuber, described as “like Uber, except with tanks.”
BingoBoingo: Also funkenstein if you may any comments on Qntra last week you gotta remake them. If you didn't you still have to make new comments anyways.
BingoBoingo wouldn't mind having a T-34 to convert into a camper van
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.0004935 = 7.5752 BTC [-] {2}
funkenstein_: my calculations are showing 14,998,400 in circulation still
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21550 @ 0.00049472 = 10.6612 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46164 @ 0.00049472 = 22.8383 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68300 @ 0.00049472 = 33.7894 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: is it old news that gnupg dgaf about linefeed types?
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 07:32:23; funkenstein_: my calculations are showing 14,998,400 in circulation still
ben_vulpes: and whitespace on linefeeds in between blocks of text in signed files?
ben_vulpes: 'cause i'm looking at 2 text files with different shasum 256's and the precise same text except for linefeeds
ben_vulpes: i must be the last person to have figured this out or something.
ben_vulpes: armor -- most poorly-named flag in the history of nix tools.
ben_vulpes: how the fuck on earth is one supposed to know if the original text had \n, \r, \r\n or whatever the original hodgepodge of linefeeds was to begin with?
mircea_popescu: one is supposed to simply assume it had whatever he uses on his machine.
assbot: Logged on 23-12-2015 19:45:54; cazalla_: ;;later tell BingoBoingo y u delete muh star wars comment from qntra? censorship! need to put qntra on a blockchain obv :P
mircea_popescu: this is the problem of having a trb in the first place : the temptation to assume it's sane is just too great.
assbot: Logged on 23-12-2015 19:50:53; ascii_field: it was the reason phuctor was sloooooooooooow
mircea_popescu: sorta like a birthday balloon works in all usecases that don't require anything of it.
ben_vulpes: i know first hand the costs of making it do...stuff.
ben_vulpes: actually what's an embeddable-via-c relational db that does r-trees besides sqlite?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: lol. hey, how's life with the thunderbird, the wife, the studio and the new kid ?
mircea_popescu: anyway. this is how bitcoin ended up with bdb i suspect. infinitydb might be an option. they all suck.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: corvette is hiding from the rain, wife is back in the kitchen, and child is inflating at normal biological rates
ben_vulpes: i suspect maintaining that java/c layer would be more expensive than just beating adequate performance out of sqlite was
☟︎ mircea_popescu is reasonably impressed. had ben_vulpes pegged for "this guy's managed to put himself in a texbook model of a place where guys crack".
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36883 @ 0.00049412 = 18.2246 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: Logged on 23-12-2015 19:58:01; ascii_field: but imho the db thing needs to be a simple mechanism written specifically for bitcoin
BingoBoingo: I thought it was because you "discovered" this morning
assbot: Logged on 23-12-2015 20:42:20; ascii_field: jurov: IT MOTHERFUCKING IS NOT
mircea_popescu: ironically, i suppose both the impairment and the sewer comments apply. life!
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell linton_s_dawson
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-12-2015#1351345 << not anyone afaik. theoretically speaking it wouldn't likely work too well yet - not enough resources on the pi to be a real node. nevertheless, as a didactic / research sort of project rather than something to go in production trying would be interesting, if for nothing else then because nobody;s tried it yet.
☝︎☟︎ assbot: Logged on 23-12-2015 22:25:35; linton_s_dawson: Anyone running thebitcoin.foundation client on a Raspberry Pi 2? I'd like to assemble a node and see if the Pi is a good idea.
assbot: Logged on 23-12-2015 22:26:16; ascii_field: short answer: bad idea
assbot: Logged on 23-12-2015 22:29:00; ascii_field: thestringpuller: be grateful that you don't have to modular-exponentiate by hand.
assbot: Logged on 23-12-2015 22:38:37; linton_s_dawson: If something ca be done in an easy-to-use manner, it should be done. I'm aware of the "if you're too lazy to learn you don't deserve it" logic but I don't completely agree with it.
☟︎ assbot: You need to specify one nick.
ben_vulpes: tonight is whitespace night in the sweet republic of bitcoin
assbot: Need a name to rate and a rating, optionally comment.
assbot: Need a name to rate and a rating, optionally comment.
assbot: 1 is not registered in WoT.
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.linton_s_dawson.1:273d20a03740ae777bb12c9e71a486bf6cc40dc9d5273b684a21934cd0c17dce
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for linton_s_dawson with note: New blood.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mike_c does your wot thinger spit out json anywhere?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42350 @ 0.00049726 = 21.059 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Yes. On the plus side now people have to read everything.
mircea_popescu: i think teh qntra backuping process suffered some improvements lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77202 @ 0.00049493 = 38.2096 BTC [-] {4}
thestringpuller: mod6: ben_vulpes anyone seen this error? 'unable to join the environment' in db.log ?
thestringpuller: something from bdb, but I thought that was all statically linked?
thestringpuller: i'm running mod6's new test2 script with alf's version string patched in.
ben_vulpes cannot recall what triggers this message
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 02:00:29; asciilifeform: funny, given how i'm just about to (mostly) stop...
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: bitcoind: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, stripped
mircea_popescu: do you have old lockfiles scattered around for any reason ?
mircea_popescu: but hey, at times i enjoy my painstakingly recreated version of the 80s.
mircea_popescu: "But for the US, and for the EU, it is now yet another major foreign policy embarrassment, and the less said about it the better."
mircea_popescu: heh. this perennial willingness to NOT discuss, if at all possible to UNdiscuss all the fuckups is so fucking dumb already.
mircea_popescu: "Prime Minister Yatsenyuk was recently hauled off the podium by his crotch; how dignified is that?" << coming soon, to a white house near you.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57000 @ 0.00049727 = 28.3444 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "Now, here's what it all really means. With so much going wrong, the Ukraine has been unable to secure enough natural gas or coal supplies to provide a supply cushion in case of a cold snap this winter. A few weeks of frosty weather will deplete the supply, and then pipes will freeze, rendering much of the urban areas unlivable from then on (because, recall, there is no longer any money, or any industry to speak of, to
mircea_popescu: repair the damage). That seems bad enough, but we aren't quite there yet." <<< this much is exactly factual, as romania is well aware since its very difficult early 90s. as far as temperate habitation is concerned, you have strictly to options : either produce enough energy to keep the heating pipes unfrozen through the winter, or else lose the possibility of urban settlement and as a result return to 1800ish (the wor
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4625 @ 0.00049727 = 2.2999 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: if you don't keep the pipes above 0, they freeze. if they freeze they split. if they split you can't keep the [mostly concrete prefab] dwellings livable, not now, not ever.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71175 @ 0.00049732 = 35.3968 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: " And the way to keep it from breaking is to replace all the bits that are listed on the replacement schedule no later than the dates indicated on that schedule. It's either that or the thing goes “Ka-boom!” and everyone's hair falls out." << yes, except for the cynical west that actually wouldn't mind a few more nuclear "accidents". so what if they were fully preventable, deliberately man-made disasters ? at least
mircea_popescu: the oh-so-precious "alternative means solar, wind and any other inefficiency" lobby can push it's "the only energy source that works doesn't work - buy our shit" narrative.
☟︎☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81000 @ 0.00049348 = 39.9719 BTC [-] {2}
ben_vulpes: anyone recall offhand how to get gpg to crap out signed data sans header/footer?
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109250 @ 0.00049925 = 54.5431 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 115700 @ 0.00049322 = 57.0656 BTC [-] {6}
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351462 << BECAUSE, importantly, the only remaining function of the british colony, its only significant export and sole raison d'etre left is exactly this playing the extraterritorial base for the USG role. you know, obama is not spying on you, the queen is (and sharing the results). we hope this legalistic subtlety makes all the difference to you!
☝︎☟︎ assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 02:17:45; assbot: NSA Helped British Spies Find Security Holes In Juniper Firewalls ... (
http://bit.ly/1ObwhxY )
mircea_popescu: at any rate, "nsa laundered the vulnerabilities it planted in juniper firewalls through an offshore platform". britain, panama, whatever pacific island, what the hell's the difference.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9919 @ 0.00049248 = 4.8849 BTC [-] {2}
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: nuked everything in /path/to/.bitcoin with `rm -rf /path/to/.bitcoin/*`
mircea_popescu: there's at least fifty billion "market research" houses more than happy to provide one with this crap.
thestringpuller: terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::runtime_error' what(): You must set myip=<ipaddress> on the command line or in the configuration file:
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller you must set your ip, the binary has no way of knowing.
assbot: Logged on 22-12-2015 04:58:44; mircea_popescu: You can then run this with something like LC_ALL=C nohup ./bitcoind -myip=<yourip> -addnode=trusted_node_1 -addnode=trusted_node_2 -verifyall 2>&1 &
punkman: mircea_popescu: the largest one had compressed web pages and metadata, but pretty much anything that doesn't need a db server
mircea_popescu: many reads few writes is a particular usecase, not really what's at work in the cases discussed.
thestringpuller: okay so it ran, but doing an RPC call: `LC_ALL="C" ./bitcoind -rpcuser=leffuy -rpcpassword=moomooman getinfo` killed the daemon
thestringpuller: it dropped out of top like instantly when I ran that command^
punkman: I don't see how bitcoin needs a db server
mircea_popescu: punkman well that's maybe a point, but nevertheless it currently uses one, and it uses one mostly to update and insert
☟︎ punkman: bdb does not have a server either
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 08:09:51; mircea_popescu: anyway. this is how bitcoin ended up with bdb i suspect. infinitydb might be an option. they all suck.
ben_vulpes: that's why eulora's looking for mapgen in $yourlang
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 09:13:27; ben_vulpes: anyone recall offhand how to get gpg to crap out signed data sans header/footer?
punkman: on second thought, probably not what you meant
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 118400 @ 0.00050092 = 59.3089 BTC [+] {4}
thestringpuller: LC_ALL="C" ./bitcoind -rpcuser=leffuy -rpcpassword=moomooman getinfo
punkman: thestringpuller: do you have a config file? might need to pass it along with getinfo
thestringpuller: nope. i set all the flags on cli like in mircea_popescu 's example
ben_vulpes: does it work with a getinfo and no rpcuser/password?
thestringpuller: error: You must set rpcpassword=<password> in the configuration file:
BingoBoingo: Yeah, gotta do that. And change the password.
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 09:40:34; mircea_popescu: punkman well that's maybe a point, but nevertheless it currently uses one, and it uses one mostly to update and insert
ben_vulpes: i'm curious to know what data structures people who understand data structures would suggest for storage and indexing
punkman: even during sync, you can commit blocks to disk in batches, really cuts down on required fsyncs
punkman: sqlite could work fine for the foreseeable future, main objection is that it comes with unneeeded complexity/kiloLOC
☟︎ gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 457.5, vol: 9796.69936891 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 453.001, vol: 9044.55735 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 457.69, vol: 24715.03879966 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 438.0, vol: 0.07037461 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 457.0, vol: 84.63627215 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 455.49761096, vol: 73.59684583 | Volume-weighted last average: 456.672206381
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: server just goes down when it makes correct connection
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22196 @ 0.00049931 = 11.0827 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48282 @ 0.0005043 = 24.3486 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84800 @ 0.00050535 = 42.8537 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41161 @ 0.00049931 = 20.5521 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95624 @ 0.00049767 = 47.5892 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83600 @ 0.00050393 = 42.1285 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81750 @ 0.00050295 = 41.1162 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: thestringpuller: run the daemon in gdb. it really should not get killed via RPC.
jurov: banknotes too ignite in microwave. better recall them!
punkman: I'd guess UStards expect the default state of things to be microwave-safe, whereas other people expect "it will probably catch fire/melt/etc"
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 09:06:33; mircea_popescu: the oh-so-precious "alternative means solar, wind and any other inefficiency" lobby can push it's "the only energy source that works doesn't work - buy our shit" narrative.
assbot: EU: Anti-circumvention duties for Chinese solar products shipped via Taiwan, Malaysia: pv-magazine ... (
http://bit.ly/1YDAufl )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53350 @ 0.00049834 = 26.5864 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58450 @ 0.00050183 = 29.332 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: prolly also saving up to afford a gendarmie
BingoBoingo: Which will also be their recruiting slogan
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21150 @ 0.00050169 = 10.6107 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33593 @ 0.00050295 = 16.8956 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44650 @ 0.00050204 = 22.4161 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 66 @ 0.0154 = 1.0164 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: ^ Oh shit a Havelol made the main channel ticker
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59200 @ 0.0004986 = 29.5171 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96300 @ 0.000497 = 47.8611 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35750 @ 0.00050248 = 17.9637 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78500 @ 0.00049215 = 38.6338 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63100 @ 0.00049165 = 31.0231 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 08:08:25; ben_vulpes: actually what's an embeddable-via-c relational db that does r-trees besides sqlite?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47250 @ 0.00049024 = 23.1638 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 06:51:07; phf: ;;later tell asciilifeform another minimal unix
http://ulixos.org, this one is 31k loc of noweb. has threads and fs caching
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 08:10:52; ben_vulpes: i suspect maintaining that java/c layer would be more expensive than just beating adequate performance out of sqlite was
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 08:27:45; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell linton_s_dawson
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-12-2015#1351345 << not anyone afaik. theoretically speaking it wouldn't likely work too well yet - not enough resources on the pi to be a real node. nevertheless, as a didactic / research sort of project rather than something to go in production trying would be interesting, if for nothing else then because nobody;s tried it yet.
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 09:00:51; mircea_popescu: repair the damage). That seems bad enough, but we aren't quite there yet." <<< this much is exactly factual, as romania is well aware since its very difficult early 90s. as far as temperate habitation is concerned, you have strictly to options : either produce enough energy to keep the heating pipes unfrozen through the winter, or else lose the possibility of urban settlement and as a result return
BingoBoingo wonders if anyone here has experience with laptop coolers that have fan pulling air out through CPU exhaust vent, considering one.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00050151 = 3.0843 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 09:06:33; mircea_popescu: the oh-so-precious "alternative means solar, wind and any other inefficiency" lobby can push it's "the only energy source that works doesn't work - buy our shit" narrative.
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 09:26:49; mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351462 << BECAUSE, importantly, the only remaining function of the british colony, its only significant export and sole raison d'etre left is exactly this playing the extraterritorial base for the USG role. you know, obama is not spying on you, the queen is (and sharing the results). we hope this legalistic subtlety makes all the difference to you!
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 09:31:41; mircea_popescu:
http://dpaste.com/068FQ43.txt << seriously, these derps classified as secret/foia extempt some derp-ass $50-a-pop market research crapolade that's ~maybe~ one step above a wikipedia cull ?
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 10:10:20; mircea_popescu: i thought the initial sync's being discussed.
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 10:16:31; punkman: sqlite could work fine for the foreseeable future, main objection is that it comes with unneeeded complexity/kiloLOC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48350 @ 0.00050204 = 24.2736 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 08:29:37; assbot: Logged on 23-12-2015 22:38:37; linton_s_dawson: If something ca be done in an easy-to-use manner, it should be done. I'm aware of the "if you're too lazy to learn you don't deserve it" logic but I don't completely agree with it.
shinohai: I strongly believe linton_s_dawson "just wants an app for that"
shinohai is evidently too retarded to build using asciilifeform 's recipe. T_T
shinohai: I just cannot understand how to use buildroot, despite reading manuals for hours upon hours.
shinohai: Maybe I need the proper drugs.
shinohai: Once I figure it out I am definitely going to write an idiot's guide to cross-compiling.
mircea_popescu: in another life you could have been a happily employed girlie, reading this crud of your own curiosity an' making summaries for terrorists.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71100 @ 0.00049913 = 35.4881 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: in my head it's all "time when the pre-cocksucking lusers lived"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45850 @ 0.00050509 = 23.1584 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: it's funny how all the soviet defections were proof sovietism dun work (it didn't) but all the various us defections weren't proof usgism dun work (it... didn't).
mircea_popescu: in the end not substantially different from the su's own "sluggard schizophrenia" in response to that age old question that's the bane of every mature bureaucracy : "why would anyone want to leave paradise!"
mircea_popescu: recall the north korean girly that killed herself in paris rather than come back home to the ~very priviledged~ household of her commanding daddy in best democratic thingamagig ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96582 @ 0.00049871 = 48.1664 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: "f0or as long as we define bribing in terms that make it impossible, it was impossible to bribe an usian to move to su in those days"
mircea_popescu: the most you'll get is a can of coke out of a vending machine.
mircea_popescu: anyway. "traitorous homosexual network of communists" ftw.
mircea_popescu: anyway. if memory serves the actual cia conclusion was "social ambition drove it", which is EXACTLY what a fucking bribe is.
mircea_popescu: the point isn't "the money", the money is always and everywhere as it is here a token. the point of the bribe is that the bribed becomes part of the clan of the briber, it's exactly a fucking wedding.
mircea_popescu: which is why women generally confront the "either you put out or we rape you" and bureaucrats generally confront the "play ball or go sleep with the fishes".
mircea_popescu: it;s not that most healthy cultures piss on turncoats. it's that turncoats generally go psychotic.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: who was the classical general that busted his own face, pretended his king did it, went to the enemies who bought it and then raped them in their sleep ?
mod6: thestringpuller: did you ever git your bitcoind up and going?
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mod6: once you have a 'bitcoin.conf' in place in either ~/.bitcoin or '-datadir' with an 'rpcuser' & 'rpcpassword': `LC_ALL=C ./bitcoind -myip=127.0.0.1 -connect 173.73.235.152 -verifyall &`
mod6: `LC_ALL=C ./bitcoind -myip=127.0.0.1 -connect=173.73.235.152 -verifyall &`
mod6: `LC_ALL=C ./bitcoind -datadir=/path/to/.bitcoin -myip=127.0.0.1 -connect=173.73.235.152 -verifyall &`
mod6: should do the trick.
mod6: im not sure what this is about:
mod6: <+thestringpuller> db.log has one line >> 'unable to join the environment'
mod6: was this started from a /clean/ env or is this trying to load up a blockchain from christmas past?
mod6: i had to laugh at that last orlov
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 16:22:07; mircea_popescu: it;s not that most healthy cultures piss on turncoats. it's that turncoats generally go psychotic.
mod6: 'NPPs require power all the time'
mod6: ya, makes sense. sucks if you can't afford to buy the coal or what not
mircea_popescu: mod6 understant, there's no "turned off the universe" switch. whether you have "an use" for it or not, teh sun's still gonna shine, and the radioactive will still decay.
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im not terribly sure avbout that. for one thing, the us is poor these days. for the other, it's always been perfidious, and the blown nuke plants are perhaps more valuable to it.
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mod6 wonders if he'll have to buy trainloads of coal one day
mircea_popescu: and i'm not overstating the screaming, onctuous poverty they're in one little bit. have you seen the footage from that meeting of perry with random nobody in ukraina, that took place in a room smaller than the very cramped table ?
mircea_popescu: the guy's expensive shirts make an incredible situation with the "we couldn't afford a hotel room so we paid the porter to let us use the utility closet" thing
trinque: yep, I may take that on next.
trinque: the above is just about 4-5 lines tweaked
trinque: so outermost makefile would do what this script is doing, then call a rotor makefile.
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trinque: but gotta get them from somewhere
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 17:00:29; asciilifeform: sorta like a v press-to-hash (feature i never got around to implementing)
trinque: sounds like a type of shell script, where one can perform-action then check-hash-of-state, then continue or die
mircea_popescu: <trinque> yep, I may take that on next. << not a bad idea yeah.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> (take a known hash, do whatever is necessary to end up with file of that hash) <<< this is actually a great approach, if it weren't for off-by-dword issues
mircea_popescu: and we're calling it retarded because we don't know it's subverted. yet.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 17:11:18; mircea_popescu: and we're calling it retarded because we don't know it's subverted. yet.
mircea_popescu has not found anything, which merely makes /me convinced his reversing installed capacity is marginal at best.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: just looking for noteworthy "mysterious" polymorphisms etc.
mircea_popescu: anyway, 100kb is not required, about 512 bytes would trigger atm.
mircea_popescu: i'm a fundamentalist rather than a realist at heart. who knew.
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assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 17:13:21; *: mircea_popescu has not found anything, which merely makes /me convinced his reversing installed capacity is marginal at best.
mircea_popescu: "This guy barely ekes out a living wage in Romania. Rule #1 in building a cult of personality is to pose as if you're raking in the cash, no matter how poor you are. But any idiot can see that (a) this guy cannot even travel to the US because of the legal problems with MPEX, (b) he makes no money from any source, and (c) he's a loser."
mircea_popescu: anyway, this chick's been rather obsessed with me for a while now. hey sciencehatesyou... i'll pay for your tits you know ? just like everyone's else.
mircea_popescu: shouldn't i get brownie points for taking all comers ? eh ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's a font of endless amusement to me, how the limits of people's heads reside in people's heads to much obviousness for everyone but the limited in question.
mircea_popescu: chicks wanna-be a feminist and lalala women's rights, is not sufficiently self-possessed to pose topless.
mircea_popescu: this, however, at no point raises any consciously-visible exception in her software. because...
mod6: /topic lalala women's rights
mircea_popescu: hmm... free and open cuntware. now that's an apt observation.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform except that's the local symbolic name for the global that's HER OWN FUCKING GAZE\
mircea_popescu: it didn't work (imo the best summary of the problem is - they ran into recursive cyclic graphs and couldn't recover)
mircea_popescu: in fairness, the guy wasn't exactly dumb, and the problem itself is not exactly trivial.
mircea_popescu: "now fix it" "what ?!" "make it flat" "are you stupid ?"
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 15:13:51; asciilifeform: ;;later tell phf
http://mikhailmasl.livejournal.com/4852.html << mega-b00k. afaik never published in dead tree. the only known memoir of mathematician working in kgb, lived through the '90s no less. the fella who designed that crackpot calculator for central bank.
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mod6: trinque: building ur script changes now.
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punkman: asciilifeform: it does say on the tin that it's not great when you want many concurrent writers
punkman: asciilifeform: even 2 yes, can only have one writer at a time.
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mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> 'cnn' hosts spam now ?? <<< the "mainstream media" is sinking, and has been, for twenty years now. there is no bottom for them.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> lulzy, nyt reads the logz and rips off mircea_popescu's summaries <<< then forgets to mention this, muppets sit around and wonder who could this guy be etc.
mircea_popescu: "To pay those taxes, some employees emptied savings accounts and borrowed money." << ahaha loot at the cute chumps!
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> even 2. << 2 is technically many in computing.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> (why the everliving fuck should there be a sql interpreter in the binary? or runtime interpretation of hardcoded sql proggies ???!!!) << because at the time satoshbi made it he didn't have a clear design document and the usg stoolies anchored themselves on such chinks in the armor to "extend" and so forth.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> gigantic dir full of straight-out sp4m0l4d3 << surely it was an accident for which nobody paid anyone inside two happy meals.
mircea_popescu: and all the talking heads i fucked to date were not common prostitutes but journalists and so forth.
mircea_popescu: "Page Not Found We’re sorry, we seem to have lost this page, but we don’t want to lose you." << apparently nyt piece you linked diappeared.
ben_vulpes: why the everloving fuck would trb care about rtrees
mircea_popescu: "r. In an investor document about the sale that was distributed to shareholders, employees discovered their Good stock was valued at 44 cents a share, down from $4.32 a year earlier. In contrast, preferred stock owned by Good’s venture capitalists was worth almost seven times as much, more than $3 a share."
mircea_popescu: "Good’s final sale price down to $425 million, less than half of the company’s $1.1 billion private valuation. The paperwork also showed that Good’s board had turned down an $825 million cash offer just six months earlier, in March."
mircea_popescu: oh lordy... please derps, run more SV. mpex not good enough for you, by all means, go for it.
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mircea_popescu: i don't get it, so the guy rewards the naughty child with attention in the hopes it'll stimulate it to... think about how it's been naughty ?
punkman: "professional troublemaker"
mircea_popescu: it will alright. for as long as TSA disputes end up in federal court rather than in burning baltimore, it'll be thinking right about how well being naughty works for its goals.
assbot: Logged on 26-07-2014 18:48:15; asciilifeform: this is why i simply don't get people who continue to think of their relationship with the u.s. court system in legal, rather than military, terms.
assbot: Logged on 13-07-2014 03:53:10; asciilifeform: BayAreaCoins: what you don't appear to understand is that this is a 'military' puzzle, not a 'legal' puzzle.
mircea_popescu: by the time your country has failed to the degree tsa exists, you ARE bee. whether you're ready to admit this or not is entirely in your own mind.
mircea_popescu: "I didn’t want a startup, but an actual business that generates revenue, and Cusoy would not fulfill that personal goal for me without a full-time team, 1-2+ years of funding, multiple years of hard work (3-5+ years at the very least?) trying to answer the if/when questions of whether or not Cusoy could make money (very expensive questions too, might I add — not only in money but time, my most valuable asset).
mircea_popescu: While I know there might be a possibility I could hustle incredibly hard and try to set up partnerships, the time investment required far outweighed the already incredibly slim chances of generating revenue."
mircea_popescu: "|Yes, Yelp has a tag for “gluten free” but it only has 44 restaurants in San Francisco with that tag (do it yourself if you don’t believe me and NYC actually has double the number of restaurants tagged gluten-free), which is a very low and deceiving number."
mircea_popescu: motherfucker, the entire city of buenos aires has like... ONE actual restaurant.
mircea_popescu: "More importantly, it does a terrible job of giving people like me actual relevant information for gluten free: Does the restaurant train its staff? Do they have separate cutters for their gluten free pizza? Are they flexible and accommodating? Do they have a separate gluten free menu? What ingredients do they use? etc."
mircea_popescu: "III. WHY I SHUT IT DOWN (ALTERNATIVELY, WHAT I WOULD’VE NEEDED TO CONTINUE). Four reasons (in order of least to most important): No team ; No funding ; No longer aligned with my personal goals anymore ; No clear or predictable way to sustainability (B2C is extremely, extremely hard to monetize)"
mircea_popescu: tellingly, the nut in there ALSO thought time was the true issue. because hey, everyone's time is valuable now, in lalaland.
mircea_popescu: "1. No team. It’s really hard to do a startup by yourself, especially if you’re a non-technical founder. No kidding, right? However, being non-technical wasn’t my excuse since WordPress came to the rescue and I basically bought the development through using cost-effective themes."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you're wondering why the figure's so low (srsly, palantir raises 200mn, whatsap sells for 20bn ?), the reason'd be that most of this has to be actual turkey buying dollars.
punkman: I saw gluten-free bread in the local bakery earlier this year. The only bread that had a brochure and brand-name. Didn't last long.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform complicated. but their key people don't actually buy into the stupid.
punkman: mircea_popescu: more along the lines of "Why don't you try being a gluten-tard? Might be just the thing for you"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "We hired a local operations manager in Denver (Sasha Juliard) and soon launched at Shotgun Willie’s (the highest-grossing strip club in CO) and two other bars. We made about $1,200 on each deal (50% went to DexOne, we spent $800 on each launch event and we had $500 in hardware costs), this was the only sales revenue Flowtab ever made. We were tightening up our sales process, but it was hard to market ourselves prope
☟︎ mircea_popescu: rly in those bars without being there. It quickly become a distraction to our operations in San Francisco."
mircea_popescu: "flowtab joined my two life's passions, inept geekery and strip clubs"
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 19:04:16; punkman: mircea_popescu: more along the lines of "Why don't you try being a gluten-tard? Might be just the thing for you"
mircea_popescu: yup. take chicken liver. i love it. so does everyone who had sane enough parents to have it as a kid.
mircea_popescu forces slavegirls to eat livers. it's a show, i tell you.
mircea_popescu: "Partnering with a uni friend, we pitched our concept to a whole bunch of web developers we knew. The challenge we posed was that it couldn’t be customisation by drop-down list or radio buttons (solutions we were offered repeatedly). This was 2005. We needed to show customers high-quality photographic customisation, where every selection changes your product. Custom-made product required a strict no-refund policy, so
mircea_popescu: customers needed to see exactly what they were going to get.
mircea_popescu: All of them said the site we wanted was impossible, apart from one who quoted upward of $40k for build, excluding the photography and image editing that would be needed. At this stage we only had $20k total capital for the entire venture — sampling, pattern making, inventory and production. So my co-founder taught herself to code. She worked day and night — we did all the operational planning during busines
mircea_popescu: s hours, and when I went off to a night job managing a restaurant, she’d code, with Sex and the City for company, until 1 or 2am when I stumbled in again from night shift."
punkman: mircea_popescu: link to that?
mircea_popescu: "Why did we launch with 12 million variants? Because we thought we needed to. Would the market have been happy to customise just the length? If we’d done proper validation, we would have known, that yes, it would have been happy — thrilled even. It only became apparent, too late, that 90% of our orders were for very typical jeans from atypically tall women. Stonewashed stovepipes with a 36-inch leg, anyone?"
punkman: speaking of clothing and software, there really is nothing reasonable out there
mircea_popescu: "So we decided to wholesale, on the condition we could establish a cost-effective supply chain. This might all seem like a juvenile, ill-informed, poorly researched, gamble. And it was mostly, but I heard an irrepressible voice day and night,asking what if it works?
mircea_popescu: We added a line of jersey basics to our denim line, packed up our lives, ended the lease on our house, loaded our portfolios and patterns into suitcases and boarded a plane for Malaysia, where I had some contacts in the manufacturing industry. At one factory after another, we were wooed by the boss, we got the grand tour, we were asked our volume projections…. and we were shown the door. Our (very inflated) annual fo
mircea_popescu: recast of 5000 units per style was daily output for these guys."
mircea_popescu: "The single factory willing to work with us said they’d quote on our items while showing us around the facility. When our guide accidentally led us full-circle, we caught their product team copying our patterns and that was the end of our sourcing trip."
mircea_popescu has enough experience with 1990s state of the art 3d modelling for games on basis of laser scanning nude female models to not need the first part explaiend.
mircea_popescu: why didn't "Better Homes And Gardens" exist in 1980 Moscow ?
mircea_popescu: a) the people who had a dacha were happy as is, no need to chase it
punkman: static scan doesn't give enough information for tailor, never mind machine designer
mircea_popescu: punkman i never had a tailor go "breathe in" "now exhale" before.
punkman: mircea_popescu: you gotta at least move your limbs a bit, no?
mircea_popescu: "More importantly though, people really didn’t really LIKE anything about our product. No one that used the service thought it was that cool. In fact, some people that participated in the sale didn’t even like our “dynamic pricing” system."
mircea_popescu: hard to beat "cheap calories" as a warm blooded lifeform.
mircea_popescu: "Our first beta test was a disaster when Amazon (who was our payment processor) suspended our account for not complying with money transfer issues. Fans were able to participate in the sale, but we were unable to capture their billing. We ended up paying the artist out of our own pocket and giving everyone his music for free (and we never told him that happened until now)." <<< derps were going to bypass amazon on an a
mircea_popescu: We should have packed it up early right then, but we felt like we had already gone too far to quit. We rebuilt (and re-designed) the majority of the software, got approved by Amazon, and reached out to over 1,700 artists (each individually through different platforms). We got between 1 and 10 artists interested. Again, this just screams “PUT IT OUT OF ITS MISERY!” But we kept going.
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mircea_popescu: "Out of the picture: why the world's best photo startup is going out of business. Everpix was great. This is how it died. The immediate concern in the room was a forthcoming bill from Amazon Web Services, which hosts the 400 million photos stored with Everpix; the team estimated the bill would be about $35,000."
mircea_popescu: dude wtf, a) never heard of it and b) it fucking sucked, get lost.
mircea_popescu: if you pay 35k monthly for hardware you'd better be doing something more interesting than "we store 400 million photos"
mod6: Alexandar's private collection
mircea_popescu: people take pictures in total violation of the economic cost of the energy expenditure for the camera, let alone any other considerations.
mircea_popescu: "By 2009 both men had left Apple and were working at Cooliris, which makes photo viewing software. Latour set up an office for Cooliris in Japan, and after spending some time traveling through Asia with his girlfriend, he became frustrated with how difficult it was to store and organize all the photos he was taking. He discussed an early idea for a product with Quennesson, who was interested in using math and science t
mircea_popescu: after reading that sort of nonsense i half expect the author has some "science" in a jar in his basement
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and for this exact reason medicine is a losing proposition. except THAT gets swept up into "obamacare" and so on. there's not going to be an obamacare for photographolalia, your ft meade wet dreams notwithstanding.
mircea_popescu: here's a fun fact : the classical gestapo didn't know what to do to keep the idiot population from givingthem tips.
mircea_popescu: Quennesson had noted that the more photos he took, the less likely he was ever to look at any one of them ever again. "People take more and more photos, but paradoxically, they become more and more disconnected from them," he said last month in a conference room at their co-working space. "You don’t want to go back to this whole life that you’ve captured, which is counterintuitive. It's the most important thing —
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shinohai: ^ got to say, his bash scripting is art
mod6: mircea_popescu: going back to the .wot dir being created by default in the `pwd` of V : I would think that perhaps .seals should go in the same place as well; `pwd`.
☟︎ mod6: Any thoughts there?
mod6: we've been through this.
punkman: /me has cases of negatives and film slides, looked into digitizing, came back with ain't nobody got time for that
mod6: maybe it just doesn't pull the keys any more.
punkman: asciilifeform: mostly slides, much more work
mod6: someone is gonna have to take over V
mod6: like Mr. P. said, there is no way I'm gonna be able to keep up with all of the feature requests here as well.
mod6: ok, No, the .wot dir must be created by hand.
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mod6: yeah, the documentation says that you need to 'create a ~/.wot directory' -- which will have to change, but 'you need to create' is the hint in there.
shinohai: Been a few weeks but I manually created it and added everyones keys, but once I made it everything works fine
punkman: asciilifeform: I rewrote and it's there
mod6: ok so i changed the changes: .wot and .seals in the present working directory, unless specified otherwise. Also I've added the checking of the hashes post-press. **EXPERIMENTAL ONLY** Will post new, signed version [v99996] once fully tested.
mod6: here's the hash for v99997: 0810eb4c7209900b3eb7b96fc7b9bfa437360581586e7d073ebc4f2cf88f13f2cafe9340ef5b8953dc43b288e4f74da3d7973998755466252225b5103c72bb99
mod6: If you add the above patch, you should end up with:
mod6: 11ece4221d6264bef4e17805e549f686b575142227aff9a00cd379110ccfcc56096a5b6924c9f614c2c6823bd687f876142b115b0d30da17c237e663deb04f11
mod6: vpatch also declares this at the top.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> speaking of which, we still need a thing where folks can drop in vpatches and sigs and redraws the flow graph << mine does this.
mod6: just have to tell it to draw the graph again.
mod6: yeah, we need something for that.
mod6: well, the ML has a place - although, the filename munging would be nice to go away.
punkman: asciilifeform: printf is redefined though and is how everything goes to log
mod6: but.. yeah, a separate thing that could be fed for this purpose would be super great
punkman: one thing to watch out for is that I replaced some wxMessageBox(_("Error:") things with fprintf(stderr, "Error:"), which I have no idea why now
punkman: I assume those won't end up in debug log
mod6: all: btw, if you do use the above test patch for V, please remember you may need to run a dos2unix on the dpaste [dpaste.com/12M99KB.txt]
mod6: anyway, i'll keep testing on this for a bit and see how it goes. and if all is well, i'll repost the entire thing (including the few changes to the automated tests) to the ML
punkman: also need own browser, because they tend to add \r
mod6: <+asciilifeform> has anybody here written own 'pastebin' ? << we desperately need this.
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assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 19:39:51; asciilifeform: contrary to the ibm legend, there was no nazi palantir.
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 19:56:44; mod6: mircea_popescu: going back to the .wot dir being created by default in the `pwd` of V : I would think that perhaps .seals should go in the same place as well; `pwd`.
mod6: ok cool. my latest patch should do just that.
mod6: i'll test a bit as I said and then re-publish a new one when complet.e
mod6: yup. no sweat. just wanna stay on top of the V changes, so I can get to the many R.I. things :]
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assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 20:19:11; asciilifeform: punkman: i like this patch except imho 1) patches ought to do One Thing 2) printf hardcoded to stdout is Wrong Thing
mod6: punkman: any idea how long clbin will hold these pastes?
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 20:30:58; asciilifeform: ideally a tmsr 'pastebin' would take input by gpg --encrypt --recipient thingspubkey... | curl -X POST ...
mircea_popescu: This year HBR changed the evaluation criteria from "stock price only"1 to an agglomeration of fuzzy metrics that include stock price in addition to Sustainalytics' proprietary "goodness evaluation" metrics.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "Jeff Bezos of Amazon has, according to HBR, toppled from #1 to #87 in their list of Best Performing CEOs."
mircea_popescu: aha, and now we understand teh point of the entire exercise.
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mod6: trinque: could deedbot be easily copied and modified to just have variable paste retention into a webdir or db of some kind? it wouldn't send to the blockchain like deedbot. then we could just have our own `pastebot'? is this dumb?
☟︎ mod6: Don't wanna make more work, just curious.
mod6: well, i thought we didn't want to send up all farts into the blockchain.
☟︎ mod6: sometimes, a guy just has to derp around
mod6: i make plenty of errors that I don't want to chisel into stone. :]
mod6: maybe a dumb idea. and maybe it can't be easily modified to do that.
mircea_popescu: technically speaking all that goes into the chain is 32 bytes per paste
mircea_popescu: moreover, there's no extra cost for adding more items to one block
mircea_popescu: hm... well, other than the cost of keeping the stuff around forever to verify blocks.
mircea_popescu: "Socialists revile the church not for its promulgation of irrational faith but because historically churches have championed the improvement of the world as a thing that the devoted do—not a thing which may (or even should) be outsourced to le etat." << quite exactly.
mircea_popescu: in general, socal ditz does not call the other socal ditz "like, totally, a slut" for any other reason than you know, the slut getting the attention of the boys she wanted for herself.
mircea_popescu: " any increase in return that’s attributable merely to an improvement in the local stock market;" << i wish to know on what planet these people live where there's "local" stock markets.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 20:58:03; mod6: well, i thought we didn't want to send up all farts into the blockchain.
mircea_popescu: shinohai the problem is that for someone to later verify the bundle deed one needs to keep the whole bundle.
mircea_popescu: "But we never defined clear hypotheses, developed experiments, and we rarely had meaningful conversations with our target end-users. And while we had some wonderful advisors in the parking industry, we should have met with everyone we could get our hands on. Worst, we rarely got out of the building."
mircea_popescu: this is not a trend among the newly "creative" worthless class, not getting out of the building.
mircea_popescu: these idiots aim to "revolutionize", "improve" and ultimately save a world they do not wish to ever see.
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 20:49:00; mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1352382 << the concept is sound, however mind that we don't end up with as many patches as linechanges. "one thing" should be liberally construed, "removing remaining wxisms" seems a one thing for me.
punkman: asciilifeform: but original was 'debug sanity' and did 2 very distinct, separable things, in 1 patch, which imho is mistake << agreed, but most of the wx crap was related to debug
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 21:09:10; mircea_popescu: " any increase in return that’s attributable merely to an improvement in the local stock market;" << i wish to know on what planet these people live where there's "local" stock markets.
mircea_popescu: apparently that pointless foursquare thing is somehow a success that had it's own wanna-bes that meanwhile died.
mircea_popescu: it's apparently very hard to underestimate just how little these people do with their time.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32700 @ 0.00050669 = 16.5688 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't think it's africanization, to me it seems very ... surfer culture, to be honest. the whole trend with walla this and palooza that traces back to that idiotic aussie band of the 90s wtf was it called.
punkman: -walla is from indian word I think
mircea_popescu: "The growing public attention sparked by the investment became both a heaven and a hell. On one hand, during the course of Gowalla’s life we received more tech press coverage than is right and holy for any startup. On the other, I dare you to find a post about Gowalla that doesn't mention Foursquare."
mircea_popescu: heh. here's the thing : by far the finest alcohol available in this country is havana club 7 yo.
mircea_popescu: some bright minds decided to advertise it. they actually paid money to get outdoor space, and on it they're selling... rum and cola. huge, block lettered 4 stage recipe, 3rd being "bebida cola".
mircea_popescu: fucktards are advertising coca cola with their own money, out of every single drink coca cola makes a dollar fifty if they make a dollar.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform apparently yes, had to ask teh womenz. really fucking retarded movie.
mircea_popescu: as someone who actually fucks third worlders, i do not buy this.
mircea_popescu: it's about california being dumb in a different color scheme , i guess.
mircea_popescu: or did i misconstrue your question and you weren't asking something along the lines of "how COULD you stick your penis in brown!!1"
mircea_popescu: maybe that's the issue. what "turd world" ? third world ?
mircea_popescu: it's about this world. a small town next to bakersfield (a sort of california's own ohio)
mircea_popescu: lol " The Maine college drop-out, 21, at center of hoax terrorist threat emails sent to schools across the East and West coasts that sparked college evacuations "
mircea_popescu: this is whjat i get for going "who the fduck is vincent canfield"
shinohai: I applaud the guy for at least putting up warrant canary on server
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> phun phakt: virtually all american 'health insurance' is void abroad << ofcourse it is ? just like soviet ruble vouchers were void in bonn ?
punkman: isn't that SOP everywhere?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 146850 @ 0.00049885 = 73.2561 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: as if any judge has the authority to order such a wonder.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39100 @ 0.00050471 = 19.7342 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 20:57:04; mod6: trinque: could deedbot be easily copied and modified to just have variable paste retention into a webdir or db of some kind? it wouldn't send to the blockchain like deedbot. then we could just have our own `pastebot'? is this dumb?
Azelphur: Haven't been active in here in a while, howdy :)
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61369 @ 0.00050635 = 31.0742 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36750 @ 0.00050635 = 18.6084 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 105950 @ 0.00050635 = 53.6478 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78300 @ 0.00050669 = 39.6738 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 14:41:47; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if laptop needs external cooling, it's a pos