tmsr - Log 2017-09-21

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shinohai: Well she is a bit chubby, but the titwork has been dry for a while.

shinohai: I also publish for your amusement, the outtakes from her foto session https://imgur.com/a/WIHc1

mod6 looks

ben_vulpes: that one scar kinda looks like a t-rex

shinohai: ben_vulpes I was just talking to her about the scars .... those things interest me.

mircea_popescu: how'd she get them ?

shinohai: Dice por un accidente del auto

mircea_popescu: lotta that in central america.

shinohai: fr .... When I was in Guatemala EVERY FUCKING DRIVER scared the shit out of me

shinohai: Despite that, still wish I could go back

mod6: <+shinohai> Dice por un accidente del auto << dang, looks like it hurt.

shinohai: Were I as rich as Sr. Popescu, every night I'd pay 0.02 BTC (adjusted for inflation) to hear these magnificent stories.

mircea_popescu: heh, recall when 0.02 seemed too low ?

shinohai: As such, I only hear them when asked to trasludar

shinohai: 0,02 has a nice ring to it though ... 0.01 cada teta

shinohai: BRING YOUR HALF ITS TO #trilema

shinohai: *tits

shinohai: I can only think that my ancestors rescued the god of jugs and were rewarded with a surfeit of tits

deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/kings-bounty-a-knights-tale/ << Trilema - King's Bounty - A Knight's Tale ☟︎

shinohai: Te saludo mircea_popescu ...caballero

BingoBoingo: Apparently "sluggish schizophrenia" is now USSA's way of handling problems? https://voat.co/v/Conspiracy/2140102/10552881

BingoBoingo: Naturally diagnosed by Social Mediaists ☟︎

trinque: average internet dungbeetle doesn't have enough read-buffer for your meme-ropes

BingoBoingo: Maybe they should try caching the ropes of memen in their butts?

BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=387 << "

BingoBoingo: "No!" I thought, "It won’t be long and I won’t be the only able-bodied man on the street with belted pants. How am I supposed to fend off this army of punks then?""

deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/09/trump-offers-earthquake-aid-to-mexico-after-mexico-renegs-on-hurricaine-aid-to-texas-terrorist-assault-on-saint-louis-continues/ << Qntra - Trump Offers Earthquake Aid To Mexico After Mexico Renegs on Hurricaine Aid To Texas; Terrorist Assault On Saint Louis Continues

ben_vulpes: fall happened over the course of two days. i am pissed. ☟︎

lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-20#1716279 << I ended up going this route. ☝︎☟︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2017-09-20 21:10 trinque: and sure, could bash script a loop that does exactly what you want, and then bash script your next service too. people do that. and then they generalize out the utils, and have a process manager of their own.

lobbes: Using this bash loop that is called on reboot. Spawns the bot process and tries to restart if it ends with exit code <> 0: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/9osB5/?raw=true

lobbes: No more grepping process list and no more endless spawning, at least

ben_vulpes: neato lobbes. ratchet of republican sapper can-do ratchets forward again...

ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: there's a section of the trump un address that's duplicated, last duped pp starts with "We cannot let a murderous"

mircea_popescu: !!up gribble

deedbot: gribble voiced for 30 minutes.

mircea_popescu: ;;tslb

gribble: Time since last block: 55 seconds

mircea_popescu: heh

mircea_popescu: teh network is disrupted to all hell fwiw.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-21#1716526 << give to brother for me ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-09-21 02:16 deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/kings-bounty-a-knights-tale/ << Trilema - King's Bounty - A Knight's Tale

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-21#1716529 you recall teh "stanford trained psychologist" doing online diagnosis of "your vile" rite ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-09-21 03:51 BingoBoingo: Naturally diagnosed by Social Mediaists

mircea_popescu: also is Hurricaine deliberate ?

mircea_popescu: by now i'm well caught in teh memeropes myself!

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-21#1716535 << it can't be winter in september wtf mang. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-09-21 05:00 ben_vulpes: fall happened over the course of two days. i am pissed.

BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: ty fxd

BingoBoingo: ty mircea_popescu fxd

BingoBoingo does not remember the diagnosis

BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Maybe you picked the wrong mountainside? Need one tilted a bit more warmerly

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> teh network is disrupted to all hell fwiw. << On the plus side, most of the public facing trb identified nodes are back caught up to sync

mircea_popescu: well yeah, they knocked offline their own shitnode network lel

asciilifeform: in other noose, https://urbit.org/blog/2017.9-eth ( cocksucker serves empty page to archive.is, and so http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/k9AVu/?raw=true << plain txt ) urbit drops pretense of independent existence, merges with... ethertardium ☟︎

mats: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/21/sp-cuts-chinas-credit-rating-citing-increasing-economic-financial-risks.html ☟︎

mod6: mornin'

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-21#1716562 << pretenses are expensive and mit is running out of marketable memorabilia ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-09-21 14:01 asciilifeform: in other noose, https://urbit.org/blog/2017.9-eth ( cocksucker serves empty page to archive.is, and so http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/k9AVu/?raw=true << plain txt ) urbit drops pretense of independent existence, merges with... ethertardium

mircea_popescu: heya mod6

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> teh network is disrupted to all hell fwiw. << looks like a series of really quick blocks 'eh?

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-21#1716563 << that's really the lolz of all fucking time. i suppose next arthur andersen is going to come back from the teenager afterlife to declare it hates its mom!!1 ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-09-21 14:18 mats: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/21/sp-cuts-chinas-credit-rating-citing-increasing-economic-financial-risks.html

mircea_popescu: mod6 it was re what mempool what nodes see sorta thing.

mod6: ahh! ok.

shinohai: !~tslb

jhvh1: shinohai: Time since last block: 16 minutes and 58 seconds

mod6: I was mostly referring to what was found in http://logs.bvulpes.com/chainstate , especially yesterday

mod6: well, not "yesterday" as much as starting around '486153'

mircea_popescu: aha

trinque: I had a node last night that was stuck a few hundred blocks back until restarted, then caught up quickly.

trinque: sync mechanism needs serious work

mircea_popescu: iirc ben_vulpes was saying something about mimisbrunnr being blackholed.

shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-20#1716186 <<< One often finds the finer luxuries of life in such establishments, no? ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-09-20 19:40 mircea_popescu: and in other ways and means, i just bought a pile of primo cigars, presidents and romeo y juliets and whatnot at this... cathouse, basically.

shinohai: I should like to have one of these cigars and nice bottle of Pernod Fils to enjoy with it.

mircea_popescu: i dunno about them luxuries, it was kinda small...

shinohai: btw mircea_popescu, chic from last night said she received deposit and is email bombing me about "el dinero de los refugiados Venezolanos"

trinque: curious whether people's nodes are still receiving transactions and other protocol chatter while not receiving blocks; mine was, usually is. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: about what now ?!

mircea_popescu: trinque usually how it goes

mircea_popescu: the original conceptualization of the blocks/blockchain suffers from evident lack of experience ; the designer mind (constructively regarded, there was scarce design gone into the prototype) seems unaware of the actual order of priority of things, so what if blocks wait for txn etc. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: and in other random lulz, https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/70hpmr/core_is_100_responsible_for_the_recent_btc_turmoil/

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-21#1716586 << dulap ( While Supplies Last!1111 ) is current fwiw ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-09-21 14:54 trinque: curious whether people's nodes are still receiving transactions and other protocol chatter while not receiving blocks; mine was, usually is.

trinque: not what I'm asking. my nodes are current at the moment too.

asciilifeform: and yes if it isn't stuck in verification blackhole, it'll be churning tx crapola

asciilifeform: this is ordinary

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-21#1716589 << it isn't merely a shit design, it's a shit implementation of the shit design. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-09-21 15:04 mircea_popescu: the original conceptualization of the blocks/blockchain suffers from evident lack of experience ; the designer mind (constructively regarded, there was scarce design gone into the prototype) seems unaware of the actual order of priority of things, so what if blocks wait for txn etc.

mircea_popescu: truth be told elements of original bitcoin suffered very much the same fate as human elements of the early bitcoin : on the long term, practice is a weighing machine

mircea_popescu: they got weighted.

asciilifeform: 'Without Core sabotaging BTC by artificially imposing the block size limit, bitcoin would be much more widely used today. Heck, countries like Venezuela might even have everyday citizens really using it to buy bread, milk, toilet paper. Many African countries could use it too.' << lol!!

asciilifeform: pinoys finally replaced with actual mechanical shannonizer ?

mircea_popescu: recall back when it was "CYPRUS!!!" ? or for that matter "ARGENTINA!!!" ?

asciilifeform: aha

mircea_popescu: they'll never run out of "obvious" idiocy, the schmucks.

mircea_popescu: "artificially imposed limits" ie, "you are scum and may not interact with things".

asciilifeform: moarmoarmoar socialisms!11! terabyteblox!

mircea_popescu: somehow makes http://trilema.com/2013/the-advantages-of-having-a-baby/ very much apropos.

mircea_popescu: "are you a young leader getting ready to change the world ? consider procreation instead. god put procreation on earth to keep monkeys such as you busy! and it works, and has worked for generations!"

asciilifeform: somehow the fact of ~traditional~ bitcoin not quite paying for its network to fully exist, is not obvious to the plankton

asciilifeform: but for gb blox -- the stone soup, will somehow materialize and pay, veril

asciilifeform: y

mircea_popescu: actually what's obvious is the other part : SOMEWHAT paying means there's some paying going on ?! HOLY SHIT NO

mircea_popescu: it's not that they couldn't pay for the "house" and "education" and etc.

mircea_popescu: it's that THEY COULD PAY NO FRACTION OF IT!

mircea_popescu: and nothing else is supposed to! bitcoin as it stands currently is throwing the curve.

mircea_popescu: that's their problem, and what they set out to resolve, uncomprehendingly but with all the dedication of biology.

asciilifeform: !~later tell apeloyee i studied your algo, it (aside from truly massive cost, that would annihilate savings from newton, or barrett, or just about any other trick) ~still leaks~, because shifting by >wordsize is a fundamentally different op from shifting <wordsize; and the only way for this to not be true is for all shifts to happen as a series of wordsize shifts; and a shift by ffawidth-1 (max shiftness) would then consist of ffawor ☟︎

asciilifeform: dness shift operations; and ergo all shifts must consist of ffawordness shift ops, as i described in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-20#1716343 . ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-09-20 21:54 asciilifeform: e.g., N is a number to shift, Q is shift amt, R is result, S = l_shift(N, 1); mux(S, R, R, iszero(Q - 1)); S = l_shift(N, 1); mux(S, R, R, iszero(Q - 2)); ...... mux(S, R, R, iszero(Q - (width-1)))

jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.

asciilifeform: motherfucking line breaks.

asciilifeform: tldr: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-20#1716337 still holds, looks like. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-09-20 21:37 asciilifeform: afaik this cannot be done without a physical barrel shifter of the given bitness.

asciilifeform: d00d was right in his observation that you ~could~ use a normalizing/denormalizing ( though proof is still a first class bitch ) algo, IF you had a secret 1..ffawidth shift. but you don't.

asciilifeform: at least not one that doesn't bring the machine to its knees.

lobbes: https://archive.is/XmY7k << lulzy. Will be fun to see how fakenewz "unhappens" these discoveries

trinque: "The prospect of our own NSA, CIA and FBI becoming politically weaponized" << wahahaha

trinque: the prospect!

lobbes: Who could've predicted??

asciilifeform: lobbes: will be unhappened exactly like every other time

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-06-04#700916 << per the canonical formula ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2014-06-04 00:08 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the buggers' traditional defense is to pretend that the event was a non-event - or, if this is impractical, to continue living in an imaginary world where they 'scooped' the story first, and all of the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened.

asciilifeform: in other olds, did we ever do https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gcrypt-devel/2015-November/003618.html

asciilifeform: '~All general-purpose modular reduction involves numerator- and denominator-dependent branches... ...includes modular reduction for elliptic curve arithmetic, in which the numerator is secret; and modular reduction for RSA, in which the numerator (plaintext message) or denominator (p, q) can be secret.'

ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: portland has 2 seasons: rainy and sunny

ben_vulpes: microclime apparently extends up where i live now as well

ben_vulpes: aaand in Hate Speech Today: http://nypost.com/2017/09/21/sorority-probed-after-singing-n-word-lyric-in-kanye-west-song/

trinque: as if white girls don't top the list of folks listening to kanye

lobbes: "These girls aren’t racist and people up in arms over this are authoritarian p—-s who hate free speech" << heh. My mind filled in the censored "pussies(?)" with "pantsuits"

mod6: :D

ben_vulpes: oblig: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trtaMHesWc8

trinque: http://archive.is/GkBqP << in other dealings with fiat institutions

trinque: BingoBoingo: ^

asciilifeform: in other lulz, spot welder - despite being made of the purest chinesium -- worx great

asciilifeform: trinque: 'SEC Chairman Jay Clayton disclosed late Wednesday that the agency learned in August 2017 that hackers may have exploited the 2016 incident for illegal insider-trading' << reminds of gox, 'hackers' and definitelynotnsa somehow ☟︎

jurov: Hi all, whoever placed orders via coinbr last 2 weeks, they were not forwarded to mpex. I was notified, fixed the problem, cancelled the orders and restored all balances.

jurov: and due to that, i also missed qntra distribution, next time someone please kick me

jurov: shinohai: just make the same deed as you did with coinbr, but with "since now please please donate all shares to foundation"

mircea_popescu: how's life jurov

mircea_popescu: trinque "The prospect of our own NSA, CIA and FBI << the "our own" bit is the lulziest. pantsuit actually thought they own something in this world. and not just ourdemocracy, at that. i suppose the scum actually sees itself as rightful inheritors of like cultural europe and etcetera.

mircea_popescu: lobbes actually, those girls are very much racists ; and possibly the only ones.

mircea_popescu: making up kanye west "black man" like they make up the barbies. when they age and clintonize they'll be making up obamas. black men in no sense whatsoever other than the needs of stupid white cunts.

mircea_popescu: it's pretty racist, yeah.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-21#1716645 <<->> http://btcbase.org/log/2015-01-13#976006 http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-07#1695160 etcetera. ☝︎☝︎☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-09-21 19:12 asciilifeform: trinque: 'SEC Chairman Jay Clayton disclosed late Wednesday that the agency learned in August 2017 that hackers may have exploited the 2016 incident for illegal insider-trading' << reminds of gox, 'hackers' and definitelynotnsa somehow

a111: Logged on 2015-01-13 18:05 mircea_popescu: lizard empire very large, very porous, generally i get the good bits before they fully propagated even.

a111: Logged on 2017-08-07 19:25 mircea_popescu: you keep thinking the usg has actually interesting secrets, rather than the rejected scripts for reality tv we keep turning up in the sikrit vaults.

ben_vulpes: "In digital real estate, as opposed to digital currency, a low-friction, zero-trust solution to the double-spend problem isn't an economic necessity." << oooooh this just makes me mad

ben_vulpes: fits with the dork's desire to make a kingdom appear out of nowhere though.

mircea_popescu: heh.

mircea_popescu: what's the problem with deedbot real estate anyway ?

mircea_popescu: or properly stated : why wouild i even consider considering anything else ?

trinque: "we had to make up an excuse to do an(other?) ICO scam"

ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i think "real estate" in terms of "entries in the namespace"

mircea_popescu: right

ben_vulpes: ah, we had a thread on this that's slipping my mind.

mircea_popescu: i think so

ben_vulpes: "gns"? http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-23#1572653 ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-11-23 16:07 mircea_popescu: think - currently deedbot administers a very narrow implementation of the gns, whereby if you claim to own X domain, it challenges you and if you pass it gives it to you.

mircea_popescu: in other vague lulz, i picked up this bottle of kefir and made the obvious "this is kefir hawatt" joke. which nobody got.

mircea_popescu: has it even been 30 years ?

shinohai: In other faux Republics: http://archive.is/LAoMV

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but was the milk it was born from, from the cat-and-rat-system!!1

mircea_popescu: mebbe the yak system

asciilifeform when saw the film, ended up rereading subj b00k and astonished to realize that david lynch made up the detail, herbert didn't have it ☟︎

mircea_popescu: im not sure i saw the film actually

asciilifeform: veeery peculiar screenization

mircea_popescu: well, lynch

asciilifeform liked. ☟︎

BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all

jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 3678.96, vol: 17982.25782995 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 3664.4, vol: 58346.41376159 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 3643.2, vol: 796.83910000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 3680.9, vol: 6969.69484778 | Volume-weighted last average: 3668.68001392

asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFKjE6lg52M << oblig