BingoBoingo: I seriously going to have to work on the no SPV allowed problem. Why should "/bitcoinj:0.12.3/Bitcoin Wallet:4.35-blackberry/" even think it ough to be service by my node
mircea_popescu: the "proper" rothschilds lived in the 17th and 18th century.
mircea_popescu: unlike in the case of the romanovs, by the 1940s time had already cleansed this bunch.
mircea_popescu: (but i can bring same argument - hey, any PROPER romanovs the reds shot ?)
mircea_popescu: not like you're gonna try and argue THAT bunch of degenerates were the true namesakes.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9561 @ 0.00069302 = 6.626 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: then you get "the german people have failed and let's blow everything up"
mircea_popescu: in the casino for the first time, and can only win, because mom had us with saint Winny.
mircea_popescu: no dude. not everyone's 14 when their battery runs down.
mircea_popescu: the even reason you bother selecting people in the first place, is that.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6289 @ 0.00070503 = 4.4339 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am testing out my new just in time examples webservice, built on node.js and ruby on rails!
assbot: Nick Szabo on Twitter: "What happens when the managers and investors ignore the engineers and scientists .. . " : Bitcoin ... (
http://bit.ly/1fqi95w )
mircea_popescu: how the fuck is it the managers get the short stick again!
mircea_popescu: what am i, an engineer now ? a scientist ? wtf is this pious fraud bs.
mircea_popescu: in africa doctor is more or less synonymous with shaman, what the fuck light does that throw on any discussion
mircea_popescu: the word programmer, to me, is chiefly synonymous with rms.
mircea_popescu: otherwise what, "bravery to me is X" "oh, you mean pissing ? because X pissed at a certain point in time!"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2687 @ 0.00068488 = 1.8403 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: rinque>my understanding was that everything we did in the 20th century involved the rape of other countries << kick that dem-socialist coolaid srsly.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, has ever existed a worse failure than the GSh-6-30
mircea_popescu: fucking comedic that thing, should have a surrealist film made about it
mircea_popescu: the only people that ever made the airplane tank work were the 60s usians.
mircea_popescu: that their deranged successors don't even recognise the marks of this...
mircea_popescu: tell you what asciilifeform, bitcoin works well enough.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51653 @ 0.00070113 = 36.2155 BTC [+] {3}
trinque: mircea_popescu | texans would prolly ally with the invader if the invader bitchslaped california harsly enough << this is a fair point, and drives home all the rest.
trinque: my perspective came from thinking of the country as a singular thing.
trinque: when my own identity is very much involved with the idea that it isn't
assbot: Logged on 08-08-2015 04:50:10; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that one practically ~screams~ 'my brain is permanently 12 y.o.'
mircea_popescu: trinque you know, the austro-hungarians had much better call to think of their alcatuire as "a singular thing"
trinque departs, thanks for the responses.
mircea_popescu: the girls iirc czech, and hm... don't ever visit bohemia then. it's where the small round cro mignon faceship landed
mircea_popescu: lots of things now the height of fashion in the us were invented by west a-h jewz.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: IN other news Corn fields looking markedly worse this week
BingoBoingo: Just lots of stunted, short and prematurely yellow swaths of the stuff.
BingoBoingo: Last week on KMOX Illinois DepAg was talking about a fall of 15% over last year's crop, but shit looks to have started dying really fast
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43750 @ 0.00069183 = 30.2676 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 00:37:58; mircea_popescu: lots of things now the height of fashion in the us were invented by west a-h jewz.
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mircea_popescu: ascii_field>vs the more subtle but destructive 'international law' and financial pyramid << in fairness : this was bismarck's idea, to finance the pre-ww1 eurozone. it HAD to be constantly rolled up in higher and higher schemes, because at all points throughout the past two centuries, bismarck's folly (pay now and the more people coming next will pay you) seemed too big to fail.
mircea_popescu: because renouncing it still to this day seems too much to ask.
mircea_popescu: trinque>china for example builds its *first* aircraft carrier, and people talk about the chinese being a military threat <<< you don't understand how this works. the aircraft carrier is irrelevant. china bet on the winning strat (missile defense) and bet a lot more than the us can afford, and as a result now has unchallangeable area denial ability throughout the shores. this means it can pursue its own, private local
☟︎ mircea_popescu: this is a political disaster for the us, nothing like the superficial humiliations it has received politically from the likes of putin and practically from the likes of isis
mircea_popescu: because in reaction to this, those countries have, and do, and will reallign.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell trinque Missouri is probably a better Texas than Texas
mircea_popescu: now, a graphite baton can survive some cleavage. but a glass baton will shatter.
mircea_popescu: and it would seem the us is all glass. much like hitler's socialist regime, or stalin's socialist regime, the us socialism can not really take defeat well. either they turn it around or they go under, there's no "occupied france" going on.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: so no, it's not bias. just facts you don't know in contexts you don't grasp.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, i'm about as biased in favour of an empire of china as i'm biased in favour of an empire of grasshoppers.
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field>'military threat', in usg parlance, means 'won't bend over immediately when asked nicely to assume buggery position' << amusingly, this bled from the DoD into the "law enforcement" paramilitary wing.
gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be identified via GPG to use the order book.
mircea_popescu: wilbns>Sovereign credit ratings from Moody’s, Fitch and S&P will soon become extinct << unavoidably. they have been largely ignored ever since the ridiculous failures they displayed a decade or so ago.
pete_dushenski: now that i slept through a fringe show this afternoon, i'm awake.
pete_dushenski: speaking of said show, the review is another missed shot by scoopbot_revived. that williamdunne...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00069075 = 12.5026 BTC [-]
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al: << thanks ascii, will take a look.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00069075 = 6.3549 BTC [-]
mod6: asciilifeform: your step "2)", do you mean to indicate reference [1] instead of "also [3]" which is the email to chicken?
BingoBoingo just impressed there exists a versioning system nao
BingoBoingo: Mebbe we have different definitions of impressed.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21441 @ 0.00069073 = 14.8099 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10249 @ 0.00068488 = 7.0193 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo humble enough to assume if something doesn't work that I introduced the problem
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32747 @ 0.00068488 = 22.4278 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: "To M. Popescu: I apologize. I was arrogant and wrong and insulting."
pete_dushenski: almost 6 months to the day later. was there a yeshiva in there ?
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: ty, I hadn't checked to approve new commenters, so must still have cookie from original comment
BingoBoingo: An internet between the ROckie Mountains and Pacific ocean
mircea_popescu: as the romanian expression goes, "sa increstam in grinda".
pete_dushenski: "Raja Bhatia, Ashley Madison's founding CTO who today consults for the website's team, is not convinced this leak is real. He told investigative journo Brian Krebs this evening that the site does not store credit card numbers. "If there is full credit card data in a dump, it’s not from us, because we don’t even have that," Bhatia added." << vs. internet 3.0
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17253 @ 0.00068093 = 11.7481 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: "if someone claims that we provide security and confidentiality, you ~know~ they've got the wrong guys !"
mircea_popescu: concerned ceo told the clueless press "i don't even" in an emotionally charged meeting over tea tonight
mircea_popescu: anyway, notice the word wizardry. "if there is full credit card data in a dump, it’s not from us". whereas the dump clearly and pointedly states "some credit card data".
☟︎ mircea_popescu: clinton can rest easy, his school of public communication still depends on what is is.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: unless you're already writing up today's am break, i think i'll take a crack at it for qntra
hanbot: <mod6> asciilifeform: your step "2)", do you mean to indicate reference [1] instead of "also [3]" which is the email to chicken? << i must be dense, where's "bitcoin-0.5.3-no-crud.sha256.manifest"? i don't see it in 1), i don't see it in 3).
☟︎ mod6: it's in the chicken.tar.gz
mod6: asciilifeform: also, you know, i never did run vdiff.sh before on ubuntu (14.04), but when I was testing vdiff.sh before (few days ago) it was all on gentoo. vdiff.sh worked and still does work good on gentoo... but now I get this error when I run it on Ubuntu:
http://dpaste.com/0RXRBNC.txt ☟︎ mod6: Has any one else noticed this error?
mircea_popescu: "There's absolutely no difference between Keiser's scamcoin and Gavin's scam coin as far as the network is concerned : while one's a scammer that I humiliatingly defeated in the past whereas the other a scammer that I humiliatingly defeat in the future, this makes no difference for Bitcoin."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9376 @ 0.0006785 = 6.3616 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65550 @ 0.00067776 = 44.4272 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8408 @ 0.00069384 = 5.8338 BTC [+] {2}
mod6: The hashes look like the match -- mainly. asciilifeform, can you confirm that this is correct or incorrect?
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62300 @ 0.000696 = 43.3608 BTC [+] {4}
mod6: (contains the mainifest you are looking for)
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: CLean up that submission, stop inserting style="text-align: left; stuff
pete_dushenski: i had it on 'justify' like i do on all contravex, then i remembered that qntra is 'left'
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I'm cleaning it up, but can't be inserting extra style. Breaks the consisten qntra look.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: But not justified. Many sane browsers don't support justified text syle
BingoBoingo: Really the "style" attribute inside tags has no reason to be used ever
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Also in you anchor tags, what is with this "target" business?
mod6: <p">Any data not signed ...
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I'm just giving you shit, but ...
BingoBoingo: It's just if you are marking up text for display... WHy butcher the whole thing with superfluous attributes?
assbot: Futurology alert: NASA has been granted $200,000 a year for a project that recycles human poop into man-made food. ... (
http://bit.ly/1Nwbftf )
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 02:20:07; hanbot: <mod6> asciilifeform: your step "2)", do you mean to indicate reference [1] instead of "also [3]" which is the email to chicken? << i must be dense, where's "bitcoin-0.5.3-no-crud.sha256.manifest"? i don't see it in 1), i don't see it in 3).
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 02:42:28; mod6: The hashes look like the match -- mainly. asciilifeform, can you confirm that this is correct or incorrect?
mod6: it look to me that the hashes match. but they're not all in the same order for som reason.
mod6: yeah, i'll go through it closer tomorrow see if I can work it out.
mod6: true. no idea why that awk command seems to honk on ubuntu.
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 02:24:39; mod6: asciilifeform: also, you know, i never did run vdiff.sh before on ubuntu (14.04), but when I was testing vdiff.sh before (few days ago) it was all on gentoo. vdiff.sh worked and still does work good on gentoo... but now I get this error when I run it on Ubuntu:
http://dpaste.com/0RXRBNC.txt BingoBoingo: Problem seems to be they used plan9 userland as a path to saving linux when the linux part could have been flushed
BingoBoingo does not know their stimulus for keeping linux of life support, may have been Nvidia...
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25440 @ 0.00067809 = 17.2506 BTC [-] {3}
pete_dushenski: "First Mike Tyson bitcoin ATM is launched - sorry guys, it's just another Lamassu machine" << lel. this one's for adam_obrien
assbot: First Mike Tyson bitcoin ATM is launched - sorry guys, it's just another Lamassu machine : Bitcoin ... (
http://bit.ly/1LkjXsj )
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> who the fuck even signs up for a 'dating site' ? how does this differ from the kind of folks who answer nigerian '419' spam ? << Some locales it is fishing with dynamite
BingoBoingo: <assbot> First Mike Tyson bitcoin ATM is launched - sorry guys, it's just another Lamassu machine : Bitcoin ... (
http://bit.ly/1LkjXsj ) << Welcome to the Terror DOme
pete_dushenski: the timelines add up. first post on shitco.in on may 4, 2015. last post on wp site on feb 27, 2015
hanbot: asciilifeform so lemme get something straight here:
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why surprising ? nobody seriously thought women were in there.
hanbot: "orchestra" supercedes "rotor" which supercedes "stator", and the v versioning system is usable (as-is) for "orchestra" only, correct?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'm not reading random expose of random derp hoping to matter. sorry.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50352 @ 0.00067691 = 34.0838 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: good for it. i dun know the author and don't care what he might wish to say one way or the other.
hanbot: asciilifeform okay. but supposing i want to try out your versioning system & sign it and all, i -need- the "orchestra" build, do i not?
mircea_popescu: the thing's basically a usgism, in spirit if not in form.
mircea_popescu: im not saying you shouldn't read it or anything, but you asked me what i make of it. i don't.
hanbot: asciilifeform oh, i see. thanks!
mircea_popescu: re the ashley madison thing, i believe it chiefly provides the same service faux exchanges etc provide to the click-bound generation. ie, they get to pretend like they're traders, don juans, what not, all from the safety of their own den, and - crucially - without actually doing it.
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.0006759 = 12.9097 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: the value proposition of ashley madison reads something likle "you too can be ALMOST like one of those dudes that cheats on his wife. except, you won't ever get caught, because... you're not ACTUALLY doing it"
mircea_popescu: which is why the breach is particularly ruinous to them. as seinfeld said, "that's why divorce is so traumatic : you've been impeached, and i wasn't even the president!"
mircea_popescu: there might have been some hookers working the cream off the top, those 1-2% oif males that finally got the nerve together to actually GASP!~1 meet someone after 10 or so years of derping around on the site.
mircea_popescu: on the other hand, given the stolid stupidity of those chicks on camwhores.com or w/e offered bitcoin.... safer bet is "no".
BingoBoingo: Ashley Madison at some point took in serious fiat though. They had prominent TV ads which means either VC suckers or customer suckers
BingoBoingo: Could be both, seems they hooked Tony Blair
mircea_popescu: the only reason there isn't a cock eating rock somewhere is pure chance. otherwise, if it offered a hole, it'd eat well enough.
BingoBoingo: Of course. I mean Mr. Tusk fucked the shit out of that penguin.
BingoBoingo: re:walrus can not reccoment Kevin SMith's 'Tusk' enough, because... [spoiler redacted]
BingoBoingo: Yes plenty of CanadiaMerican retardation, but... actually the five line synopis and punchline may be enough
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25700 @ 0.00069422 = 17.8415 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Premise it totally improved though by seeing bad thing happen to actor who was the face of OS X for so long
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo im half-amused that the "mainstream media" fails to connect the fetlife story to the ashley madison story.
mircea_popescu: buncha derps couldn't find their way out of a nonexistent paper bag, yet wish to have a "profession" and get "salaries". why "? for what ?
assbot: Logged on 04-06-2014 00:08:26; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the buggers' traditional defense is to pretend that the event was a non-event - or, if this is impractical, to continue living in an imaginary world where they 'scooped' the story first, and all of the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 98841 @ 0.00070506 = 69.6888 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30351 @ 0.000706 = 21.4278 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: back when hearn wasn't even a shitstain on his owner's pants yet.
mircea_popescu: pretty funny to see just what communitard understood of bitcoin lol.
mircea_popescu: i dunno why all the "bitcoin fork" derpage. this really is solidcoin v2.0
mircea_popescu: you're prolly not old enough for it, but if yo uare THAT patient, asciilifeform dig up the old solidcoin stuff. it was a goldmine.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i don't actually think they were READY to deploy this autumn. irrespective of the september term they might or might not have lied to manageement about.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the same, oh, it's broken ? no problem pinoy fix!
mircea_popescu: the only cherry missing from this cake is to discover hearn actually outsourced this shit via odesk or some crap.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: (contrary to his pretense, the man can't actually code / has never actually written anything / etc)
mircea_popescu: it wouldn't be the first time us agent had to provide his own combat boots.
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 04:32:13; mircea_popescu: the only cherry missing from this cake is to discover hearn actually outsourced this shit via odesk or some crap.
mircea_popescu: "CURLE_OK" in particular is an abomination upon nomenclature.
mircea_popescu: anyway, another batch of tests returns. the chain as currently seen longest, 370657 tall does in fact verify throughout in all presentations.
mircea_popescu: i've been burning at it for > month by now, but the ~7 different spots that at times seemed dubious carry no significance or import.,
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well you recall how we had a number of locks and dubious forks etc since june ?
mircea_popescu: i am, but i don't wish to say exactly what i tested ;/
mircea_popescu: numerously but not significantly. atm i actually regard it more like a legacy disused tool, sort of a reference put aside anyway.
mircea_popescu: that being teh scant joy in otherwise generously daily distress.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.0006972 = 4.3575 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: hand-spam. because apparently teppy and whoever else are actually worth this now.
mircea_popescu: Archimedes P Sapitula 270 Summit Ave Jersey City, NJ 07306. Age 42 (Born Jun 1973) (201) 433-1410. Background Check - Available. Record ID: 572584016.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9035 @ 0.00069375 = 6.268 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14627 @ 0.000706 = 10.3267 BTC [+]
mod6: <+asciilifeform> because afaik no one has yet done this. << I have 2x completed full sync with -verifyall. And I have further attemps #3 & #4 >300`000 blocks atm.
☟︎ tripleslash: Why the need for full sync --verifyall? What'd I miss?
Birdman: Hello, im getting the OTP when i ask for voice, but im not sure what to do past that
Birdman: I try to open it, but it says it cant find a program to open with
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00069373 = 13.5277 BTC [-]
hanbot: yeah, but in a different dir, heh. moving, rerunning.
Birdman: Coldbleed is someone i had been talking to about the WoT and -assets so i directed him here
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29550 @ 0.00069201 = 20.4489 BTC [-]
mod6: hanbot: the basic issue is that this line in asciilifeform's script: vdiff a b > genesis.vpatch
mod6: doesn't match up with the file that comes from the email:
mod6: vdiff_42f0e9ea2da5aefd21d4dace0bcb6bf5dddaad40.sh
punkman: nor does it match genesis_2cba721ced8108cf65ab7d045081237ecda4602a.vpatch
mod6: so i ended up chaging the file name to "vdiff.sh" + chmod 0755, and then changing the script so it reads: "vdiff.sh a b > genesis.vpatch"
punkman: (oh wait, disregard my statement)
mod6: ... then changing the script so it reads: "vdiff.sh a b > genesis.vpatch" << bah. should read: "./vdiff.sh a b > genesis.vpatch"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32100 @ 0.00069429 = 22.2867 BTC [+] {6}
punkman: you can still buy unregistered SIMs in US, right?
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.000706 = 9.6369 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63700 @ 0.00067999 = 43.3154 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: I (single gay man from Saudi Arabia) Could be Stoned to Death if Ashley Madison Records Are Leaked : adultery ... (
http://bit.ly/1JjKrWY )
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22431 @ 0.00067991 = 15.2511 BTC [-]
hanbot: <mod6> so i ended up chaging the file name to "vdiff.sh" + chmod 0755, and then changing the script so it reads: "vdiff.sh a b > genesis.vpatch" << picked the renaming bits out of here, worked for me, thanks. did not get the syntax error!
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48600 @ 0.00067991 = 33.0436 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39325 @ 0.00070381 = 27.6773 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: actually, let's just do a summary an' leave it at that. ex-wife of ex-respectable bitcointards community member pm's MPOE-PR on forum about how she's been exactly right about X, he stole buncha cash from her, "you got it spot on except for X minor detail" sorta thing.
mircea_popescu: in other news, "Dear customer, We are sorry, Your PayPal account has been limited until we here from you"
mircea_popescu: in other news, the new log color thing totally hoses my browser.
mircea_popescu: so now i can't fucking use the log anymore. can i has revert ?
punkman: already using racist browser?
mircea_popescu: i imagine it must badly implement dom-something or the other.
punkman: I don't run js on log and it works fine
mircea_popescu: good for you. i'd expect anyone sane runs fine. but mine chokes ;/
☟︎ punkman: I just can't see the extra "style="background:#f9f9ec " hosing anything, but who knows
punkman: hmm if you turn color off there are some stray quotes: <p class="chatrows lightgray" ">
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40350 @ 0.00070774 = 28.5573 BTC [+] {3}
punkman: "The most horrifying moment of my employment at Amazon was the time I was using the toilet and a coworker began talking from the stall next to me. He asked me why I had not responded to his very pressing email. I closed my eyes and pretended this wasn’t happening. What email could be so important that it could not wait five minutes for me to use the bathroom?"
punkman: "He began tapping on the wall between our stalls, asking why I wouldn’t respond, as if inter-stall conversation should be a totally normal, not disgusting means of communication."
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31432 @ 0.00070901 = 22.2856 BTC [+] {2}
punkman: "You'll have to do s/\n|GPG|/\n/ to recover the vpatch." << why not gpg -d?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43066 @ 0.00070998 = 30.576 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: incidentally : if gpg had the fucking sense to include MORE information on its information line, we wouldn't have the problem with the dashes.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: then it knows it needs to stop after 593 characters rather than look for dashes like a drunk mole.
punkman: the dash escaping GPG does works fine for me. the problem is clearsigning fucks with trailing spaces and whatnot
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00069321 = 2.9115 BTC [-]
punkman: to put it more clearly: If you care about line-endings and whitespace, you can't really clearsign things.
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45321 @ 0.0007128 = 32.3048 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5112 @ 0.00071329 = 3.6463 BTC [+]
punkman: (exercise for students: clearsign a piece of text. append as many trailing spaces/tabs/CRs as you like to the clearsigned text. check if it's still valid. repeat process with detached signature, see what happens)
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00069307 = 12.2327 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00071329 = 10.5567 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3845 @ 0.00069284 = 2.664 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 146655 @ 0.00068249 = 100.0906 BTC [-]
jurov: <stick`> slushpool runs both Core and XT
jurov: <stick`> miners themselves choose port to connect
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 01:13:47; mircea_popescu: policy. which includes japan, indonesia, even australia.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85800 @ 0.00069496 = 59.6276 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10950 @ 0.00067991 = 7.445 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32777 @ 0.00067986 = 22.2838 BTC [-] {3}
jurov: ;;later tell davout rly, need help with teh bot?
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021525 B (Total: 427.66 B). Delta: 0.11 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000207 BTC [+]
assbot: Hell, ain't we about more fucked than a whore at closin' time, huh?
assbot: I don't give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who.
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00067583 / 0.0006979 / 0.0007397 (2677308 shares, 1,868.51 BTC), 7D: 0.000591 / 0.00070008 / 0.0007991 (14116527 shares, 9,882.81 BTC), 30D: 0.00049661 / 0.00057924 / 0.0007991 (83031265 shares, 48,095.84 BTC)
assbot: Young Australians increasingly jobless, unmarried and living at home | Australia news | The Guardian ... (
http://bit.ly/1KxreSD )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36050 @ 0.00068019 = 24.5208 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 09:12:31; punkman: to put it more clearly: If you care about line-endings and whitespace, you can't really clearsign things.
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 08:47:37; mircea_popescu: incidentally : if gpg had the fucking sense to include MORE information on its information line, we wouldn't have the problem with the dashes.
jurov: but it's hopelessly complicated and no afaik one even tried do send PGP/MIME message to mailing list
jurov: except me to test it, then I threw my hands in disgust when i could not easily troubleshoot why it fails to verify
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13225 @ 0.00068019 = 8.9955 BTC [+]
jurov: interesting how my brunch, coffee and b-a time so often falls into time where channel is silent
☟︎ chetty: its a big world jurov, many time zones
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64350 @ 0.00068019 = 43.7702 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11275 @ 0.00068019 = 7.6691 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22150 @ 0.0007104 = 15.7354 BTC [+] {3}
jurov: "interstall communication" hahahaha
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49500 @ 0.00068451 = 33.8832 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7536 @ 0.00071219 = 5.3671 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26364 @ 0.00071337 = 18.8073 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 08:11:47; mircea_popescu: good for you. i'd expect anyone sane runs fine. but mine chokes ;/
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 06:21:01; assbot: I (single gay man from Saudi Arabia) Could be Stoned to Death if Ashley Madison Records Are Leaked : adultery ... (
http://bit.ly/1JjKrWY )
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 06:38:34; hanbot: <mod6> so i ended up chaging the file name to "vdiff.sh" + chmod 0755, and then changing the script so it reads: "vdiff.sh a b > genesis.vpatch" << picked the renaming bits out of here, worked for me, thanks. did not get the syntax error!
kakobrekla noticed logs loading slow since a week or so ago, but i havent changed a thing to cause that
punkman: doesn't seem slower in my firefox though
punkman: stray quotes where you add the color style
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo i don't actually think they were READY to deploy this autumn. irrespective of the september term they might or might not have lied to manageement about. << Gavin's eariler marketing campaign made this autumn the latest they could do this.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 05:05:47; mod6: <+asciilifeform> because afaik no one has yet done this. << I have 2x completed full sync with -verifyall. And I have further attemps #3 & #4 >300`000 blocks atm.
kakobrekla: punkman> stray quotes where you add the color style < fixed but still slow neh ?
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 06:05:07; punkman: you can still buy unregistered SIMs in US, right?
punkman: no such things here, you have to present ID. but not like it's hard to send a hobo to buy a few SIMs.
punkman: or even buy from a different country and roam.
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 08:23:38; punkman: "He began tapping on the wall between our stalls, asking why I wouldn’t respond, as if inter-stall conversation should be a totally normal, not disgusting means of communication."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.00071456 = 19.7933 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 09:02:17; punkman: the dash escaping GPG does works fine for me. the problem is clearsigning fucks with trailing spaces and whatnot
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 10:37:53; jurov: <stick`> miners themselves choose port to connect
punkman: the key says punkman, I don't see the problem
punkman: was the sig good at least? :P
copypaste: This news is delayed. Get access to this information before it is priced into the market with a real-time news feed for only $1.
thestringpuller: At my first job, the devops team took an initiative to not copy paste, because people were copying root passwords into ssh logins. So they have this huge meeting about not copying pasting. And this one guy goes, "But there will always be copypaste"
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: this is reminiscient of the ICBIT MP exposed in 2012
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22218 @ 0.00069359 = 15.4102 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: "The Blockchain is may play a key role in the Music Industry. Revelator builds software that allows artists and record labels to manage, track and market their music all from one application. The company sees the blockchain as an opportunity to simplify music rights, which remain complicated and difficult to verify, with a new Intellectual Property (IP) management system that will allow artists to register their works on an imm
thestringpuller: do·sim·e·ter - noun - a device used to measure an absorbed dose of ionizing radiation.
mike_c: "He also agreed to pay federal authorities another $50,000 so that they wouldn't seize vehicles he used as part of his illegal activities."
mike_c: so, Jared drives to the prostitute, gets busted, and has to pay the feds not to seize the car he drove there in?
☟︎ mike_c: do they ever *not* have their fucking hand out?
mike_c: It's just annoying, depending on how cynical you are.
mike_c: Ok, guy sleeps with child prostitutes, gets busted, goes to jail. Good. "Oh, by the way, give us $50k or we'll take your cars".
mike_c: he's only in for ~5 years
mike_c: i guess he'd rather keep them
mod6: hanbot: << picked the renaming bits out of here, worked for me, thanks. did not get the syntax error! << ahh ok thanks for the update. glad you didn't get the error. my ubuntu needs to go to glue factory.
thestringpuller: Andreas: All the fork drama is really overblown. Diversity is good and bitcoin is resilient. Consensus will converge on the correct answer. << Consensus is you are a zombie who refuses to die.
thestringpuller: "I think we should put users first. What do users want? They want low transaction fees and fast confirmations. Lets design for that case, because THE USERS are who ultimately give Bitcoin value." - Gavin << WHo is going to pay for these "low transactions"
mod6: asciilifeform: did you get it sorted out with whatever sig thing you were trying to saw through?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.0006959 = 8.3856 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53150 @ 0.00069835 = 37.1173 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 14:36:04; asciilifeform: and the next time you sit in the sun, eating ice cream, remember that it is the flies that give ice cream its value.
punkman: funkenstein_: website's yours?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52027 @ 0.000701 = 36.4709 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17602 @ 0.00068865 = 12.1216 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29500 @ 0.000701 = 20.6795 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64300 @ 0.00067827 = 43.6128 BTC [-] {2}
funkenstein_: punkman, yes. stringpuller: earlier version posted while ago (in logs), copypaste was able to "double vote". Work in progress.
mike_c: It has an amazing lack of documentation/explanation :)
mike_c: did I miss the FAQ link?
mod6: <+mod6> hanbot: ... << ahh ok thanks for the update. glad you didn't get the error. my ubuntu needs to go to glue factory. << actually, I did also try this on a different 10.04 VM and i did get the same error. bizzare.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 16:29:31; mod6: <+mod6> hanbot: ... << ahh ok thanks for the update. glad you didn't get the error. my ubuntu needs to go to glue factory. << actually, I did also try this on a different 10.04 VM and i did get the same error. bizzare.
ascii_field: phriendz don't let phriendz sign random strange
danielpbarron: i put gentoo on an HP XW9400 Workstation, and also got Eulora running on it, although I can't test out walking around in the world yet
danielpbarron: not sure if installing xfce was necessary to get Eulora running; might have only needed some media libraries
chetty: sounds cool hope you have chance to try it soon danielpbarron
danielpbarron: the cs walktest worked so I think it'll be no problem
ascii_field: (could easily be wholly fictional, but, in the immortal words of tlp: 'if you're reading it, it's for you')
☟︎ mod6: b/bitcoin/src/json/json_spirit.h, b/bitcoin/src/test/base58_tests.cpp, b/bitcoin/src/test/base64_tests.cpp, b/bitcoin/src/test/README out of order. but the hashes seem to match.
mod6: anyway, will keep looking at it for a while here.
ascii_field: mod6: just grep the diff for '+++' and compare the hashes with sha512sum of directory (your local manifest)
ascii_field: and is our latest discovery that 'diff' is UNFATHOMABLY retarded ?!
☟︎☟︎ ascii_field: srsly, different sort order on different versions of 'diff' ?
☟︎ trinque: the people wanted change, ascii_field
ascii_field: 'Once there was The People--it shall never be again!' (tm) (r) (kipling)
mod6: i guess it's possible. for that one I used this version:
mod6: mod6@localhost ~/genesis $ diff --version
mod6: diff (GNU diffutils) 3.3
mod6: Packaged by Gentoo (3.3)
mod6: hmm. its possible that I have done something incorrect on my side.
mod6: that's why im a bit hesitant yet.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20850 @ 0.00068277 = 14.2358 BTC [+]
ascii_field: another possibility is some odd misbehaviour re: timestamps
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 232.63, Best ask: 233.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.37000, Last trade: 233.05, 24 hour volume: 36670.90620652, 24 hour low: 221.11, 24 hour high: 237.94, 24 hour vwap: None
mod6: ascii_field: yea, i'll dig into it more tonight and tomorrow, etc. until i get it solved. thx!
mats: ;;ticker --market all
ascii_field: mod6: didja ever post your complete diff ?
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 232.72, vol: 20401.85308198 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 230.51, vol: 10339.03617 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 232.54, vol: 36670.90620652 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 245.0, vol: 14.54786465 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 232.88452, vol: 28330.07090000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 235.05954, vol: 552.72746559 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 238.7111646, vol: 192.91907085 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60300 @ 0.00068864 = 41.525 BTC [+] {2}
punkman: ascii_field: do you have an outline/spec for v? I could give you a hand with that
mod6: i'll compare my raw patch above with MP's posted one above side-by-side here when i get a chance.
ascii_field: punkman: it's in a half-done state. doesn't really need docs, very much self-explaining
punkman: ascii_field: no I mean doing that other half
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 03:25:34; *: BingoBoingo does not know their stimulus for keeping linux of life support, may have been Nvidia...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19900 @ 0.00069503 = 13.8311 BTC [+]
ascii_field: mod6: i viewed the diffs in 'meld', came to same conclusion as you: 1) timestamps 2) ordering of files
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11742 @ 0.00069503 = 8.161 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: When NVida "works" on opensource it is largely due to binary black boxes like 'cg'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00069531 = 7.9961 BTC [+] {2}
mod6: ascii_field: thanks for taking a look!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40500 @ 0.00067546 = 27.3561 BTC [-] {4}
mike_c: kakobrekla: these assbot bitly links don't seem to work anymore
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.0006751 = 7.6624 BTC [-]
gribble: Current Blocks: 370743 | Current Difficulty: 5.269984240934701E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 370943 | Next Difficulty In: 200 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 8 hours, 52 minutes, and 36 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
mike_c: ""phf [R.07] created two patches [R.08] for `stator' to build and run on OpenBSD. This is very exciting, we've been looking forward to supporting this platform for some time now." << is the the royal "we"? :)
trinque: mike_c: there are two gentlemen running the foundation
mike_c: indeed there are, but methinks only one was actually excited about supporting openbsd
mike_c: i can not *wait* until this thing is production ready.
ascii_field: mike_c: out of curiosity, what do you consider 'production-ready' ?
mike_c: i consider it simply, the foundation says so.
☟︎ mike_c: not blindly, but that seems a prerequisite
mike_c: kakobrekla: none of the bitly links from assbot work for me. they working for you?
mike_c: that's interesting.. I tried that one specifically before and got nothing, but now it is showing up.
kakobrekla: nfi but everything is falling apart apparently so i wouldnt be surprised
mike_c: hm, well, nevermind then. perhaps it was temporary.
mike_c: unless you stick it in the blockchain
chetty: <kakobrekla> everything is temporary.// death and taxes?
trinque: "Please switch to side B of the Universe now."
mod6: <+mike_c> we = mod6 + mod6 << lol! in all seriousness, i think that ben supports us working on obsd as well; however, yes, his enthusiasm might be more tempered then my own. He does review all of these SoBA's before they get signed & sent out to ML
mod6: imho, it's good to support at least 1 other platform outside of linux.
mike_c: No disagreement. I just smiled at the excitement :)
ascii_field: summary: msdos to which you add a scheduler (threads) and addressability of blockchain-sized hard disk, is not really msdos in any proper sense
chetty: well I actually kinda liked the 'robin' variant
ascii_field: kakobrekla: iirc the modern drdos is 'freedos'
ascii_field: because it is ~so~ useful to have something like msdos but less compatible.
ascii_field: (msdos 6.2 source leaked some years ago, and, unlike most leaked source, actually builds.)
ascii_field: at any rate, msdos provides not one single system call that could be of use to a bitcoind
☟︎ ascii_field: so a 'dos port' is more appropriately a 'bare metal' port, and doesn't need the dos for anything
☟︎ trinque: BREAKING NEWS: Second release of Ashley Madison data includes source code for website, CEO emails << headline banner on reuters homepage
trinque: just keeps getting worse for them
ascii_field: re: 2nd am leak: theoretically enough to set up the site for yourself
chetty: log ever since the color change// color? what color?
ascii_field: 'When the head of US Southern Command testified before Congress in March 2014, he said that due to asset shortfalls Southcom couldn’t pursue 74 percent of suspected maritime drug-smuggling vessels. “I simply sit and watch it go by,” the general said.' << disinfo !
jurov: chetty, it's there ^
ascii_field: 'Update: The US Coast Guard informed me that the 16,000 pounds of cocaine seized during the July 18 semi-submersible bust has been changed to 14,000 pounds, due to a "quantity mistake" in their initial report. This story has been changed to reflect that correction' << 2,000 for obamitler's cellar
☟︎ chetty: odd, I dont get any color but I the spacing is actually better on that version
trinque: must be something else to be able to be that brazen and *know* not a soul will know or care
☟︎ trinque recalls the CIA plane *filled* with coke
trinque: certainly not an isolated case, of course.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22900 @ 0.00069854 = 15.9966 BTC [+] {3}
trinque: ascii_field: yeah, I'm having a hell of a time finding the sources that linked the above plane to flights to guantanamo now, and recall in the past *not* relying on such filth as "infowars"
trinque: but I do remember when this was reported at the time, in 07
trinque: I guess that one's a seizure.
trinque: point being, the internet... it rots.
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0006751 / 0.00069203 / 0.0007374 (2533894 shares, 1,753.53 BTC), 7D: 0.000591 / 0.00070498 / 0.0007991 (14010531 shares, 9,877.17 BTC), 30D: 0.00049661 / 0.00058029 / 0.0007991 (83372433 shares, 48,380.72 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00069871 = 5.4499 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: is working on the blacklist article
assbot: Logged on 05-08-2015 06:35:37; trinque: ;;later tell felipelalli you've spoken about the idea of rating people not in the WoT; there's a great way ^
trinque: felipelalli: 'twas above that one, BingoBoingo made a deed in which he promised to rate certain individuals -10 should they ever appear in the WoT
☟︎ ascii_field: felipelalli: 'I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.' (tm) (r) (babbage)
trinque: ascii_field: not at all; making a deed serves a similar purpose if the individuals are easily identified by the contents of the deed
trinque: sure, but if it's bureaucrat X who did Y and Z publically, works fine
felipelalli: trinque, ah, lol, amazing. thank you! The deedbot link didn't work when I tried to enter in it. My idea was to be able to rate an "abstract entity" that could represents a person or company that wasn't registered on WoT.
ascii_field: felipelalli: why not simply rate'em if they ever show up.
trinque: this is why I suggest deeds for this, rather than WoT ratings
trinque: "fuck he who did X" is a fine thing to preserve permanently
trinque: this is actually the thing that most excites me about bitcoin: permanent social memory
felipelalli: ascii_field, this is actually useful to identify scammers. Scammers does not like to register in WoT systems because they are easily got.
trinque: at least as long as the life of the chain
trinque: felipelalli: good reason to do business in-WoT though
ascii_field: felipelalli: from that perspective, a fella who was offered every chance to get in wot, and we saw that he understood how it works, but refused - has already negrated himself to -$maxint
trinque: felipelalli: yer dpaste is dead boss
danielpbarron: and to those who might not have noticed, the assbot bit.ly links forward to archive.is
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33800 @ 0.00069831 = 23.6029 BTC [-]
ascii_field: felipelalli: i have no idea, but iirc mircea_popescu dislikes him
danielpbarron: yet another guy who "teaches the controversy" that the "debate" is whether to use 'Core' vs 'XT'
mircea_popescu: in the current state this is actually fine. "debate core vs xt" misrepresentation is a degradation of "core consensus" prev state.
ascii_field: (existed to make 'core' look like a decent thing)
mircea_popescu: yes. except this need wasn't perceived back in say 2013.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47863 @ 0.00069757 = 33.3878 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: hearn was added to support gavin almost as soon as gavin did his "presentation" at cia.
mircea_popescu: but they were, according to usg, unknown. only recently were they moved from field to embassy duty
mircea_popescu: or as that works out in bitcoin, from "developers" to "XT team"
felipelalli: if Bitcoin Core pushes forward to increase the block size, how to resist to it if the miners decide to support the fork? Any other version unsupported by the miners would be very vulnerable to attacks from the fork side?
mircea_popescu: "benzinga.com" ? wtf, your dragnet's too tight, picking everything
mircea_popescu: i bet alf's idea of microbiology work is "examine the bugs individually under microscope"
mircea_popescu: this is a fine approach for computer viruses. for very good reasons i won't go into for the sake of not boring everyone.
mircea_popescu: but it is a bad approach for actual microbiology. because, again, saltus.
kakobrekla: yeah looking into it, checked and old backup copy of the file - still slow
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: funnily, the saltus thing is applicable to modern crapware written by morons who slavishly copy one another with minor variations
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i use the log daily and the problem only started maybe 2 days ago. somehow.
mircea_popescu: it's also applicabe to things like "internet websites", for the same reason. hence the b-something comment above.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu, kakobrekla: i also noticed this. even dug in the payload, found nothing
mircea_popescu: i'm tryin' to pass along to you the methodology knowledge of people in this field, ya know ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: you're entirely correct re: spamatronics
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla specifically what was i testing ? log.bitcoin-assets.com right ?
mircea_popescu: but i guarantee this was not present 1 month ago, or even a week ago.
kakobrekla: i started noticing a slowdown 7-10 days ago
ascii_field: it started on or very close to the hour when the colours were introduced.
mircea_popescu: might not be... i noticed after they were introdfuced tho
kakobrekla: there is no colors in the code now, still slow
ascii_field: is there ANYTHING that wasn't there in june ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.0006751 = 14.1771 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Line 4051, Column 13: value of attribute "ID" invalid: "1" cannot start a name
mircea_popescu: <script src="/js/jquery-1.8.3.min.js"></script><script src="/js/jquery-ui-1.9.2.custom.min.js"></script> < those changed ?
ascii_field realized long ago that standards committees attract at least half a dozen distinct types of vermin. one of which is the sort of fella who vandalizes bus stops, carves initials in
trinque: the browser is the ultimate "make a name for myself" hell.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu, kakobrekla: why does that thing need js??!!!
danielpbarron: js is what makes the selected line (via url) turn yellow
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i just loaded a version without the head section
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8987 @ 0.00068582 = 6.1635 BTC [+]
danielpbarron:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234461 << i've been listening to his podcast ever since his article on the dance party for the shamed fat guy; the show is just barely interesting to have on in the background thanks to his somewhat libertarian-leaning co-host, Dick Masterson. Maddox himself is a damn dirty socialist, and also a self-described 'programmer' who frequently speaks to the virtues of winbl0ws
☝︎ assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 06:07:22; trinque: man, I love Maddox so much
trinque: danielpbarron: man, he's a socialist? that's disappointing.
mircea_popescu: <meta name="keywords" content="#bitcoin-assets log" />
mircea_popescu: <meta name="description" content="#bitcoin-assets log" />
trinque: I'm speaking from having read maddox.xmission.com long ago
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron lotta people are sorta like that, really. the hope and expectaton of a "greatness of the people" is hard to shake.
assbot: Let's address some of the more common pseudo-arguments raised by the very stupid people that like the Gavin scamcoin proposal on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1fsD6g3 )
assbot: Let's address even more of the more common pseudo-arguments raised by the very stupid people that like the Gavin scamcoin proposal on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1fsD6g6 )
assbot: Third pass addressing the more common pseudo-arguments raised by the very stupid people that like the Gavin scamcoin proposal on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1fsD6gg )
mircea_popescu: rguments-raised-by-the-very-stupid-people-that-like-the-gavin-scamcoin-proposal
felipelalli: mircea_popescu, thank you for the links! I was trying to find something relevant on log but I didn't so far.
trinque: some css selectors can be heavy to apply
mircea_popescu: trinque the file i uploaded uses the same css the not working log used tho, and worked fine!@
trinque: could be heavy depending on the structure of the markup
mircea_popescu: but i suppose it could be some mysterious css/js interaction
trinque: cause it has to search the whole DOM tree
trinque: can be narrowed by specifying IDs, using > to specify "just immediate child" etc
mircea_popescu: i guess it COULD be that it actually rejected the provided ids "because they start with digit" and ending up with a soup ?
trinque: it's one of those giant monstrosities that every simple question is hard to answer
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 03:59:34; mircea_popescu: re the ashley madison thing, i believe it chiefly provides the same service faux exchanges etc provide to the click-bound generation. ie, they get to pretend like they're traders, don juans, what not, all from the safety of their own den, and - crucially - without actually doing it.
mircea_popescu: which is to say : there's two webs. one is the original web, which exclusively consists of non-interactive
http served documents. this is the same it always was, more or less.
kakobrekla: a 'missing' 'overflow: hidden' was the cause
mircea_popescu: then there's a secopnd web, to use its own terminology web2.0. this is composed of ALL the sites that uses
https, for any purpose. such as "logins" as if that makes any sense.
mircea_popescu: these, without exception, are populated by idiots. without exception i say.
kakobrekla: how ? dunno, nobody could have foreseen.
mircea_popescu: and what they do all day is, PRETEND like they're doing something.
trinque: kakobrekla: heh was every line trying to figure out if it was going to be scrollable?
mircea_popescu: they pretend like they're advertising, but aren't actually reaching anyone. they pretend like they're socializing, but they're socialising with perl scripts (as per
http://trilema.com/2014/spamming-reddit-an-experiment/ ). they pretend like they're doing banking except they aren't actually, and "cheating" on their wife with gif-provided motion and indian call center provided voice.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: it's a wriggleysgumification
mircea_popescu: the web 2.0 has, basically, failed in all its promises except one. it does give monkleys something to play with.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i'm not convinced that there is enough 'genuine cheat' or whatnot to go around. hence, the simulacra.
mircea_popescu: the moment you have go around in the sentence you've made it about "giving stuff to people who haven't earned it"
ascii_field: any more than there is enough toyota to 'go around' in zimbabwe
mircea_popescu: "go hang out on a website or whatever it is your kind does", as it were.
ascii_field: orlov worked this subject in his hilarious 'dead souls'
ascii_field: kakobrekla: do the nauseating colours ~have~ to be default ?
mircea_popescu: well, i guess it's not novel nor really anything but the most banal observation.
mircea_popescu: but to my own head it's a huge step forward. i guess i was coming at the internet from the wrong perspective. took a while to clear in my head heh.
mircea_popescu: "With each passing week more and more of us become ready to concede that economic growth is no longer possible. Economic development, on the old model, which UN Secretary Ban Ki-moon recently characterized as a “global suicide pact,” is becoming constrained by the limits of natural resources of the finite planet, energy, arable land and fresh water foremost among them, and stressed further by extreme weather
mircea_popescu: events that increase in frequency due to the rapidly destabilizing climate." <<< ascii_field i'm sorry, what ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: just now noticed that one ?
ascii_field: iirc mr o works it into every single piece somehow
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23900 @ 0.00067343 = 16.095 BTC [-] {3}
ascii_field: i don't barf from religion unless it genuinely interferes with the subject matter
mircea_popescu: i guess you'll have to provide offsets with your orlov links nao
ascii_field: mr o, it appears, has somehow baked his whole mind around the idea that climatocalypse will cleanse away the sins of mankind
trinque: heh, I've hoped for this as well. wishful thinking.
mircea_popescu: " What neither side seems to grasp is this: as the virtualized realm of cyberreality and social networking takes over daily life, the actual physical economy will matter less and less"
mircea_popescu: a) what takes over ; b) what less and less. for starters.
ascii_field: nah, makes sense - build 100x fewer cars, let lusers watch films of cars, go 'vroom' in their minds
ascii_field: sorta why i brought it up re: the simulacra thread.
trinque: cannot last for very long at all, if it did
trinque tries to eat a farmville vegetable
ascii_field: trinque: for so long as it is displacing 'optional' items, rather than air, food (and can take considerable liberties with the latter!) - it lasts
ascii_field: and, naturally, while the herring in the scania sounds.
mircea_popescu: if tomorrow all white dudes in the us go hang themselves, leaving all the black dudes
trinque: sounds more like learning carpentry at aushwitz
mircea_popescu: would you say this means "hanging has taken over the us" ?
ascii_field: i must have some 'css' filter in my skull that makes orlov make sense
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i think 'take over' here is in the sense microshit took over pc
ascii_field: in the sense that one ends up going to considerable lengths if wishing to avoid contact with it
trinque: sorta like a septic line taking over a basement
felipelalli: mircea_popescu, I read your articles. Actually I had read some parts before, but I read all over again. Unfortunately I didn't find the answer to my question. I understand that if miners just point to a "Scamcoin" (fork from Bitcoin) this is not Bitcoin, of course. But having them more hashpower, and the same type of hash function, this does not make the actual Bitcoin an "altcoin" and them vulnerable to attacks? (following the
felipelalli: idea of that other article of yours "The woes of Altcoin, or why there is no such thing as "cryptocurrencies"")
trinque: but then the agency there is just a metaphor, so I can see the argument that nothing was "taken over"
felipelalli: mircea_popescu, in other words: the decision of majority of miners could literally kill the actual Bitcoin. Make it unusable.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12122 @ 0.00068183 = 8.2651 BTC [+]
trinque: felipelalli: so then the actual bitcoin has fewer miners.
mike_c: majority of miners = 60%? Then 40% of miners stay on bitcoin and blocks take.. 25 minutes?
felipelalli: trinque, I know, but vulnerable. Miners could use a portion of their hashpower just to mess around with the actual Bitcoin.
kakobrekla: afaik you need 75% +2week for switch to work
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13110 @ 0.00068613 = 8.9952 BTC [+] {3}
mike_c: in the meantime, everyone sane forks their coins, dumps the scam coin, and now the 60% miners are mining worthless coins.
mike_c: how long does that last?
assbot: Let's address some of the more common pseudo-arguments raised by the very stupid people that like the Gavin scamcoin proposal on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1fsGAzl )
kakobrekla: everyone sane hahaha he said everyone sane.
kakobrekla: insane keep their coins, sane wont touch exchanges
mircea_popescu: that said, yes, people who disregard their own property can "mess around" with your property. for instance, a guy that doesn't give a shit about his 50k car can drive it through your front door.
assbot: The woes of Altcoin, or why there is no such thing as "cryptocurrencies" on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1fsGWG5 )
mircea_popescu: yet lo and behold that not so many people drive their car through other people's doors.
mircea_popescu: because it's their fucking car, and because if they fuck it up they don't get another one.
mircea_popescu: lemme put it plainly : if this were a unipolar world, it's not that bitcoin wouldn't exist. it's that it COULDNT.
mircea_popescu: the world is not unipolar. even if, for various inhabitants of various rural places, it so appears.
punkman: felipelalli: nobody can steal your coins if you just sit on them and don't spend for a while
mircea_popescu: and has so appeared, since before the greeks were invented.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38279 @ 0.00069699 = 26.6801 BTC [+] {2}
trinque: hm, this brings to mind monotheism, as perhaps the source of this delusion of a singular agency over reality
trinque: or maybe just an expression of it
felipelalli: punkman, this is true, and this is my main use of Bitcoin. I wouldn't be affected. Good point. But this is a little contradictory with the article "there is no such thing as cryptocurrencies". The idea is "There Can Be Only One"
mike_c: There can only be one.
mircea_popescu: christianity took over the decaying roman empire as the most concise, most popular embodiment of their hope and aspiration. the only such remaining - that even as they've failed, they still must survive "for there's nothing else".
mike_c: But miners don't get to pick it
mircea_popescu: it's a great faith for the defeated, and always popular with them
mircea_popescu: felipelalli that's exactly it : there can only be one, and miners don't pick it. mike has it.
thestringpuller: miners are the bitch of the economic majority which is MP, he decides.
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> meat folks have a habit of changing skins << Deed's kinda contingent on identification being confirmed at all
ascii_field: wouldn't a complete picture include satoshi ?
mircea_popescu: check it out thestringpuller you got better score than orlov.
mircea_popescu: thoughts ? what thoughts. this is abuse. you want 12-c down the hall for thoughts.
mike_c: satoshi seems to just be holding the detonate button.
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: Just found out about it coming back from mowing lawns. KMOX was talking about it. If Crown Candy Kitchen survives not much elso of value in North city
ascii_field: mike_c: could easily push same button as mircea_popescu
mike_c: could yes, but it feels like he'd be more likely to blow the whole fucking thing up for some reason rather than use his coins to influence policy.
trinque: ascii_field: damn, wouldn't that be a thing to watch.
mircea_popescu: mike_c "some reason" aka it's fucking stupid and who the fuck does this to people, takes their napkin sketches and puts it in a frame above the mantelpiece!
ascii_field: trinque: wonder if 'blow all up' would result in my ancient satoshicalypse pill being dug up and put to use
mircea_popescu: dja understand any minor mistake the man made PROTOTYPING is now preserved in billion dollars' worth of amber ?
mike_c: yeah, but, we're fixing the napkin. plz don't blow it up yet mr. satoshi.
mike_c: we = foundation, I'm not doing anything.
mircea_popescu: but my involvement in bitcoin has been deeply educative through example
mike_c: Not exactly five years - It's a lot of work. This work wasn't necessarily worth it before enough people took the right notice and the project got some traction
mike_c: Meaning the fixing was only worth doing for a smaller number of years.
mircea_popescu: i hope me and mike_c die in the same plane crash and i get to hear him talk it over with ol' paulie.
mircea_popescu: i dunno wtf you're doing programming computers yo. go be a negotiator.
mike_c: my mother thought I should be a lawyer
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> felipelalli: i have no idea, but iirc mircea_popescu dislikes him << Two different goats
trinque: ascii_field: ah yep, read that. and it wouldn't surprise me if A was an intentional kill switch, even less so with the hypothetical "failed project"
trinque: perhaps that was a veiled threat to use the bomb
ascii_field: spoiler: the anti-bomb is to make satoshi's blocks unspendable.
trinque: something something precedent something socialism
trinque: I dunno if I like having some kind of mob social mechanism to declare coins uncoined
trinque: and yet, yes, could kill the thing otherwise
mircea_popescu: there is nothing wrong with preserving the originator's exercisable right to end his progeniture.
mircea_popescu: heck, the absence of social recognition for this is why i won't have kids.
trinque: yeah, if satoshi says "dead" I'm inclined to respect
ascii_field: the inventor is always at war with everyone else.
trinque: not dead in that "no more cryptocurrencies"
ascii_field: inventors live, typically, with a strong but arguably justifiable sense of being scammed by their fellow man collectively.
trinque: supposing it ends up expected that clients have a sort of "spam" list of bitcoin addresses they ignore
ascii_field: one hypothesis of mine is that the 'anti-bomb' will help not at all unless dropped ~prior~ to the s-bomb
ascii_field: because proscribing the blocks later won't un-stampede the sell-panickers
ascii_field: and won't un-mix the mixed s-coin when it ends up everywhere
mircea_popescu: since we're doing nonsense ("you can't teach a class in nonsense. but the history of nonsnese - that's scholarship!"), can anyone explain why exactly would a hard fork not start with its own genesis ? outside of the fundamentally fraudulent, pious or otherwise, attempt to pretend like it's something it is most assuredly not ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: only reason is to hitch a phree ride on the existing allocations
ascii_field: rather than deal with premining (or accusations thereof) and the whole orchestra.
punkman: you can't fork the chain at genesis
mircea_popescu: ascii_field youre not required to starty it at 1 diff.
mircea_popescu: all the altcoin scammers ever did, of course, but for a very transparent reason.
ascii_field: well, you can't start at ~very~ massive diff
ascii_field: because then you get millenium-long block times
mircea_popescu: "here's the hard fork. mine the first block or go away"
ascii_field: (with the hash power typically available to a forker)
mircea_popescu: that'd have been the HONEST approach to xt, were xt actually powered by the stuff they claim it to be powered by.
mircea_popescu: if genuinely users were constricted by nonsensical rules which inept conservatives maintained out of sheer lunacy,
mircea_popescu: then they could always have done it properly, like above. heck, they still do.
mircea_popescu: "oh, millenium times" what the fuck derp argument is that. you get the same 25 btc for mining a block, here or there. each hash is worth the same.
ascii_field: a fork that doesn't switch workfunction is ipso facto a fraud
mircea_popescu: perfectly valid fork that doesn't run into (the mostly valid) problem you raise.
BingoBoingo: <kakobrekla> afaik you need 75% +2week for switch to work << 75% for just 1 week. Decides to fuck off faster than difficulty decides between anal and blow job.
ascii_field: <mircea_popescu> "oh, millenium times" what the fuck derp argument is that. you get the same 25 btc << can't transact!
kakobrekla: BingoBoingo yeah i wasnt clear, 75% over 1k blocks which is 1 week + 2week 'grace' period
assbot: You have not rated slush.
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.slush.-10:32bc6c42d2abe961351b640351fa93b57b39fb751ee8ffa2f040ca50fa101109
assbot: Successfully added a rating of -10 for slush with note: fuckwit
kakobrekla: wait bip101 is autherd by ga and suggest 8mb
ascii_field: <mircea_popescu> you can, if you mine it. << that requires - shudder - actual resources!
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> that said, yes, people who disregard their own property can "mess around" with your property. for instance, a guy that doesn't give a shit about his 50k car can drive it through your front door. << Incidently used care prices are finally returning to "normal" pre-Obola-cash-for-clunkers depreciation curve. Thousand dollar cars are a thing again. Soon it will probably be possible to acquire a car capable of providi
BingoBoingo: ng its own motion for three digits again. Thank you China!
mircea_popescu: ascii_field obviously. i'm just saying, you know, here's where the shore is. for all the puddles pretending to be rivers.
punkman: mircea_popescu: you added newlines?
mircea_popescu: well you can readily see what i added, it's all in there
punkman: I don't see trailing spaces/tabs/etc
mircea_popescu: the text reads "append as many trailing spaces/tabs/CRs as you like to the clearsigned text"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00069714 = 7.808 BTC [+]
ascii_field: briefly back to earlier thread, i hypothesize that is s-bomb falls, the 'counter-bomb' is a schelling point.
ascii_field: i, for instance, am not any more thrilled about satoshi's blocks being spendable than a german in 1945 was re: the trotyl that hitler ordered planted on everything worth half a broken pfenning
ascii_field: (not carried out, because they weren't morons..)
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i thought you had no money, what do you care.
mircea_popescu: "does it grow on dead body ? " "ayep" "then it's dangerous weapon for usg"
ascii_field: it also occurs to me that an anti-bombed bitcoin is only a hardfork ~if~ the bomb falls.
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 12:05:32; jurov: interesting how my brunch, coffee and b-a time so often falls into time where channel is silent
ascii_field: when i wrote that essay, and there was no positive reaction to it, i concluded that bitcoin users are just too fond of fellating the invisible cock of the anonymous microshit vs wizard, to care half a damn
mircea_popescu: ascii_field there are two undistinguishable reasons for silent answer. one's that no one heard.
ascii_field: but reaction was, unsurprisingly, 'this is satanic'
ascii_field: hell, i don't find it esp. appetizing, either.
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 13:20:14; BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo i don't actually think they were READY to deploy this autumn. irrespective of the september term they might or might not have lied to manageement about. << Gavin's eariler marketing campaign made this autumn the latest they could do this.
punkman: mircea_popescu: I was wrong on the CR part, not sure on the exact set of whitespace chars it will happily eat, but it's probably more than tabs and spaces. example:
http://dpaste.com/18QBJJY.txt mircea_popescu: just making the point that it's fucking impossible to predict wtf it does
punkman: you can convert between \r, \r\n and \n without problems though
mircea_popescu: still, these perfectly valid technical objections aside - signed is deeply inferior to clearsigned. this is a fact, and it won't change.
mircea_popescu: the correct solution is to reimplement pgp and make it behave re clearsign.
punkman: I was also trying to make a point about the |GPG| prefix being useless
mircea_popescu: well, no. it works as intended : if you extract all the prefixed lines and wipe the prefix, you get the original text.
punkman: it'd have worked with dashes just as well
punkman: so you remove "- " instead of "|GPG|".
assbot: In no less than six years of block size increases XTCoin would be a defanged and impotent caricature of actual Bitcoin. : Buttcoin ... (
http://bit.ly/1K9pvHs )
mircea_popescu: "This shit from Mircea and friends is incomprehensible. And probably exactly wrong."
BingoBoingo: Even though it links to all the times Mircea was right and doesn't have Mircea on the byline
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36500 @ 0.00068615 = 25.0445 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35600 @ 0.0006987 = 24.8737 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4972 @ 0.00068014 = 3.3817 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: anwyay, this is a perfectly fine time to move hashing away from slush, if anyone was looking.
mircea_popescu: "good guys" gotta at some point comprehend the jwz future is no future.
mircea_popescu: let him be "oh, that xt pool operator" and hang with it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34200 @ 0.0006984 = 23.8853 BTC [+] {5}
BingoBoingo: I was kinda iffy about him with the whole Trezor thing
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 110000 @ 0.00067282 = 74.0102 BTC [-] {6}
jurov: kakobrekla/mike_c , is there any public source for mpex trades (other than mpex.coinbr.com) that does not mutilate data?
jurov: live.coinbr.com i mean
jurov: well, i was troubleshooting coinbr transaction "2015-08-19T22:31:42+00:00", B 53950, "S.MPOE" @ 68266 but it got put together with others and then published in channel
jurov: and say i wanted to convince coinbr customer that yes, it happened
jurov: cuz i must still occassionally fix coinbr history
mircea_popescu: yes but traditionally the way broker works is that he allocates his trades. so... you say it happened, you have a block it could have happenbed in, that's it.
jurov: !s uery.bitcoin-assets.com
jurov: !s query.bitcoin-assets.com
jurov: nothing, i just had no idea
jurov 's gonna dictionary ping *.bitcoin-assets.com to see if there's more :D
jurov: ;;isup bait.bitcoin-assets.com
gribble: bait.bitcoin-assets.com is up
jurov: it's wildcard record.. duh
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 13:57:50; asciilifeform: what's wrong with NAMES ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.0007016 = 19.4343 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 14:26:53; mike_c: so, Jared drives to the prostitute, gets busted, and has to pay the feds not to seize the car he drove there in?
mircea_popescu: "I think we should put users first." << oh, but we are. because poor people ARE NOT bitcoin users. by definition.
mircea_popescu: we aren't putting ghetto meat first. let the usg have that, they earned it.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the only possible definition of "middle class" is, "what's left of the poor fucks once the rich fucks are done raping their daughters and shooting their sons for sport."
mircea_popescu: you can't have a middle class unless the poor class is being squished underfoot.
mats: YHOO: -3.10%, TSLA: -5.12%, BABA: -3.83%, AMZN: -3.22%, AAPL: -2.05%, BOX: -2.31%, FB: -.98%, SCTY: -4.47%, ZNGA: -2.33%, GOOG: -2.13%
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5958 @ 0.00068358 = 4.0728 BTC [-]
mats: correction, FB: -4.98%
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00067172 / 0.00069087 / 0.00071459 (2635190 shares, 1,820.59 BTC), 7D: 0.00060969 / 0.00070717 / 0.0007991 (14054424 shares, 9,938.99 BTC), 30D: 0.00049661 / 0.00058091 / 0.0007991 (83785547 shares, 48,672.49 BTC)
mircea_popescu: i look at that index and i'm like... hey, nice, simcity 2015.
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 16:50:56; ascii_field: (could easily be wholly fictional, but, in the immortal words of tlp: 'if you're reading it, it's for you')
ascii_field: mega-related. no pgp, no wot. no wot, eaten alive by influence agents and provocateurs.
mircea_popescu: understand : the ability of the usg to continue strictly lays in the fiction called "lawful order".
mircea_popescu: if the odds for a policeman being answered with bullets are ~0%, there can be a country.
mircea_popescu: if the odds increase past a very tiny epsilon, there can not be a country.
mircea_popescu: this is strictly true irrespective of any other consideration, and the epsilon can even be calculated quite well.
ascii_field: then chechnya. which isn't a long-term affair.
mircea_popescu: modern ro is kinda what the us aspires to be. and at the point where that happened, about 3%.
mircea_popescu: and the next day, people had to hide the police from the mob, like they were jews suddenly.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80850 @ 0.00067702 = 54.7371 BTC [-] {4}
ascii_field: anyway usa is on the zimbabwe track not the ro track
mircea_popescu: in fact this country is quite exactly the future of the us, almost to the last dash.
mircea_popescu: and the funny thing is - the usians won't even know it.
mircea_popescu: they'll just sue the chinese in a chinese court protesting that the chinese arew forcing them to pay bonds as they promised to pay,
mircea_popescu: will discuss their debates, whatever, "race", "women" bla bla. much like the locals do soccer.
mircea_popescu: buncha veterans of the lost war on lawn of white house,
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 16:56:49; ascii_field: and is our latest discovery that 'diff' is UNFATHOMABLY retarded ?!
ascii_field: ^ does not invoke 'ls' internally (who is surprised?!)
mircea_popescu: dude it's almost as if everyone using computers before was just you know, playing.
mircea_popescu: "what, someone will one day want bitwise identity on outputs ?!? AHAHAHAHAWUT"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32121 @ 0.00067065 = 21.5419 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: i am seriously persuaded that not a single "programmer" alive until 2010 ever realised that yes, bitwise identity is a thing.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i tell you, trying to convince sopmeone to not mentally s/programmer/monkey/ is a very hard task.
mircea_popescu: it's as if bitcoin suddenly raised the bar for programming computers and now most everyone's too short to play.
mircea_popescu: "wait, THAT is what computers were for ?! all these years!"
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: wake me up when time for adacoin.
ahmed_bodi: Occasional trader. remember trading with a few people here. lost my PGP? key so i cant auth with assbot myself anymore
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 18:30:08; kakobrekla: msdos really best of doses ?
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 18:48:57; ascii_field: 'the cuckening'
shinohai: Many testicles will be crushed.
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 19:10:43; ascii_field: 'Update: The US Coast Guard informed me that the 16,000 pounds of cocaine seized during the July 18 semi-submersible bust has been changed to 14,000 pounds, due to a "quantity mistake" in their initial report. This story has been changed to reflect that correction' << 2,000 for obamitler's cellar
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 19:11:48; trinque: must be something else to be able to be that brazen and *know* not a soul will know or care
mircea_popescu: this because "the people" have no proper function in government, and unlike the aspie 14%, the people know this well enough.
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 19:54:59; ascii_field: it's kinda like using a branding iron on a snake
mircea_popescu: is it me or has alf's figurative speech improved markedly past year or two
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> talk about fucking bit rot. << 8 way RAID 1 mirrors are starting to get really appearing just as Bitrot prevention
BingoBoingo: Of course. I's just like to kill the Cawsmax Ray excuse
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> is it me or has alf's figurative speech improved markedly past year or two << like his work I imagine also fueled by his hatred
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you'll have to blockquote code snippets tho
mircea_popescu: his true malfeasance and loyalties come to light under superficial examination.
BingoBoingo: K, thestringpuller isn't getting shares from Hearn's code
mircea_popescu: "his true loyalties and thinly disguised malfeasance are apparent even under the most superficial examination" ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14451 @ 0.0007016 = 10.1388 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Gawker of course has a piece on Homeboy fleeing the crackhouse and eating pig lead
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00068949 = 12.5487 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Nah. Two St Louis shootings. One was Ferguson hoodrats shot through a house killing a nine year old with a stray bullet. The other was StL PD shooting a fleeing innocent youth.
BingoBoingo: Just another innocent youth running from the crack house
mircea_popescu: above clarin, above trip advisor, above wikipedia, TRILEMA UBER ALLES!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21939 @ 0.00066998 = 14.6987 BTC [-]