assbot: Logged on 01-03-2014 22:42:52; asciilifeform: re: raspberry pi: the news item is - a sham
assbot: Logged on 22-01-2015 21:52:21; asciilifeform: 'raspberry?' terrible, terrible i/o. ethernet on same usb as the storage. no thanks.
airgapped: asciilifeform: ever looked at VoCore?
airgapped: have one but it also contains bin blobs
assbot: Logged on 18-03-2014 01:19:43; asciilifeform: our friends at ft. meade call this 'NONSTOP'
airgapped: we are running out of options here
airgapped: I have been loking for minimal node for some time but there is no good option it seems
airgapped: what i'm looking for is just a node, wallet is out of scope
airgapped: I'm running it on latest rp but pogo looks like good alternative
airgapped: I will, danielpbarron already pointed out his notes
cazalla: asciilifeform, i read orlov's post soviet lessons.. article last night and my impression is that some of what he predicts relies on suggestion we've passed peak oil, but then i have read elsewhere peak oil has been debunked or that we're not even close to passing it.. can you share thoughts? not much turns up in logs
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mircea_popescu: cazalla it is elementary that if you keep taking out of a sack and never adding, eventually you run out.
mircea_popescu: whetrher you care or not - entirely different discussion.
mircea_popescu: for that matter... it turns out there's not enough rare earths on earth to make an ipad for each person alive.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, whether you care or not would be influenced if you are to run out tomorrow or 100-200 years from now though
mircea_popescu: but once the saudi flood is done, imo that's it, oil will only ever be expensive.
mircea_popescu: you can't run out of carbon, ie, the element. but you can run out of, say, sugar. venus is a fine example.
cazalla: vespene gas actually works well considering what an end game of broodwar looked like once it ran out
mircea_popescu: cazalla anyway, practically, the peak oil thing is a lot less interesting now that electric cars have been demonstrated than 20 years ago. (dunno if you know, but this has been a fringe theory for > 50, almost 100 years by now)
cazalla: mircea_popescu, it's not that i'm interested in it (or would understand/appreciate the issue tbh) but it seemed obvious way to poke a hole in orlov's prediction, at least that it might occur in my lifetime anyway
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "if you're gonna fuck, might as well make the chick you're fucking in the same go" ?
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, S.CARS would be pretty cool. a company that a) aspires atmospheric H2, b) fuses it into Li c) which it uses to make car batteries while d) the energy so produced it uses to make the cars and fill them up.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not to mention the earth is about 80% nickel and iron by mass.
mircea_popescu: you know, i'd like to read a sf novel which explores a future where technology has re-arranged deep magma of earth into a humongo battery
cazalla: related to running out of something.. techcrunch reports yesterday's bitcoin auction was the last of dpr's coins.. bloomberg quote usms as saying otherwise
mircea_popescu: and the human civilisation is organised around the implicit currency of "Stored joules"
mircea_popescu: cazalla hardest thing for a fraudster is to keep the story straight.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform iirc decade old data, it cost about 2.5-3x as much but obviously you never had to replace anything.
mircea_popescu: people generally went for the "cheaper" solutions that rarely last 5 years
mircea_popescu: some of the cleverer dcs use them bnecause they're so very tolerant. which makes it the best heuristic to evaluate the operational wisdom of any dc.
mircea_popescu: "do you have a basementfull of nife ?" "o yeah! shit rocks" vs "say wut ?"
mircea_popescu: then they run for 4 years and have to replace the batteries, and run for another 2 and there's a lightning strike and have to replace them again. tru story.
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't be so sure you'll get permits for new development in the us, eithert.
mircea_popescu: and new cars also don't really come with lead batteries.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to imagine the "ban smoking" thing is an isolated incident is naive. no, there's a shitton of these underway, continuously, and generally unreported.
mircea_popescu: "O, you're now advanced enough where you could start some light industry ? fu!"
mircea_popescu: right. the tlp described phenomenon of "oh, this class of medicine is now generic ? guess what, on a review of the data available it turns out it wasn't effective anyway, so we're using Y now instead".
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bingoboingo that epicscale debacle prolly qntrable.
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mircea_popescu: the demographics of qntra readership as depicted by quantcast never cease to amaze me.
mike_c: apparently we're all asian men 25-34
cazalla: what's behind the push for such things?
cazalla: maybe qntra needs quotas so that 30% of readers are women
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 19:03:35; asciilifeform: 'join our botnet voluntarily, save orphans!'
mircea_popescu: mike_c politically active, politically unafilliated, filthy rich, mostly azn, some caucasian.
mircea_popescu: (in fact it's mostly white with more asian than "normal", which considering the normal is gawker-and-wikipedia dumbternets... )
mircea_popescu: mike_c anyway, the demographic that supposedly "doesn'ty exist" and "doesn't matter" and "never wins elections" and so on and so forth.
mike_c: it'll be interesting to see it after another couple 10x bumps
cazalla: what's the other in race demo? jews?
mircea_popescu: but yes, thisd would make sense, with some shitty alt.
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mircea_popescu: btw, anyone put together the "usg will target ammunition rather than small arms" with the "various agencies bought and stored millions of rounds at the beginning of this decade" to come to a "usg will ban ammunition period" thing yet ?
mircea_popescu: as in, they are actually making rounds the future currency ?
mircea_popescu: usg survival plan once shtf ? "well...we got the largest stores of ammo of anyone...so..."
mircea_popescu: apparently the de .5 ap, explosive, incendiary etc rounds are secret on internet.en ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the bmg is a machine gun round not a pistol round
mircea_popescu: anyway, the thing is just on the margin : the common "action express" .5 round is generally stopped by a level 3 and always by a level 4 vest.
mircea_popescu: but the ap variant cuts through any practical armor, and generally can be used against lightly armored aircraft as well.
mircea_popescu: it is just about at the tolerance level of a physically elite man.
mircea_popescu: by the time you're shooting this it supposedly no longer matters.
mircea_popescu: anyway, pointless stock. if you can use stocked stuff just get a carbine or something.
mircea_popescu: let's put it the other way : a sharp tungsten tipped .5 round is >20 bux.
mircea_popescu: you can shoot through us style "walls" by ir with it just fine.
mircea_popescu: that trivially ended up pushing against branches etc ?
mircea_popescu: well... once the usd v2.0 pistol rounds thinkg takes form, we can make these :D
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 20:35:22; trinque: they can try; there are hordes of rednecks in the woods already stocked up for armageddon
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 20:38:28; asciilifeform: if there were a 'rural militia' with above room-temperature iq, usa would already look like iraq
mircea_popescu: give it a week and a half of "we can no longer give you free stuff"
mircea_popescu: remember that time when food stamp system ran out of funds, took a three day hiaturs, everyone held their breath ?
trinque: nobody I was talking about collects food stamps
mircea_popescu: that was the equivalent of the mike hearn "let's test bitcoin". the result came out kinda clearly - 9 maybe 10 days. that's it.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: would like Francis Underwood if he were a real person.
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assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 20:41:27; asciilifeform: trinque: as i understand, this isn't ru circa 1917, the hypothetical rebels don't 'just want to be left alone' - not one in ten thousand is able to grow anything edible without regular deliveries of petrol, pesticides, etc.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i just think you'd admire someone who'd want to completely gut the welfare state
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform from boston to nuevo laredo, all the way.
trinque: granted my parents farm might not be the most defensible place, but it *does* produce using about 1850s level tech
trinque: the place even has its own natural gas well, heh
trinque: mircea_popescu: wow, very cool
mircea_popescu: so it may be a case that YOU be thinking of another usa hm ? :D
trinque: mircea_popescu: I want the book on your life someday.
trinque: I'd probably have to learn romanian and read that part of trilema
trinque: asciilifeform: that part does probably rule out the place in particular
trinque: my point was people can produce food
trinque: the gas isn't involved in the food production
trinque: just makes keeping the cows alive easier
trinque: the trucks stop and they still eat, til someone comes for the natural gas
mircea_popescu: thjis idea that the remnants automatically inherit the land is naive. one in ten is my experience.
mircea_popescu: this idea that the remnants automatically inherit a chunk of the future is naive. one in ten is my experience.
mircea_popescu: the reason there even is a remnant in the first place - vz, the collapse - is that they didn't have enough virility in the system.
mircea_popescu: it's not magically sprung up by the end. expect a good half of usg to just lay down and die, just like that.
mircea_popescu: expect the aspirational 20% to murder the rest of the 40% in the process of selecting the half of itself that may go on.
trinque: so the stepdad's ex-mil and well armed/trained
mircea_popescu: and 0% of the "responsibility to govern". if two dukedoms over someone makes clitoris stu, expect nobody to care.
trinque: whatever that's worth in the situation
mircea_popescu: trinque hence "<mircea_popescu> well... maybe his uncle!"
trinque: what I'm gathering though is I have very little rational options beyond get rich, and do it now
☟︎ mircea_popescu delights in picturing the hordes of "awareness raisers".
trinque: compulsively plugging dead phones into dead outlets over and over
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decimation: asciilifeform: re: gyrojet < lol "recoiless rifle" from your fist? Does the exhaust burn your eye out too?
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 21:00:46; danielpbarron: i'm probably in the *worst* place to be when this stuff goes down, although asciilifeform's locale doesn't sound very pleasant either
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 21:10:10; cazalla: the majority of movies are shit anyway so even if i had the time to watch them on the reg, they are not even worth pirating
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 21:24:35; cazalla: BingoBoingo, maybe should've saved the utorrent forum complaints.. forum offline now lol
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 21:25:02; asciilifeform: trinque: the hypothetical 'mutual assistance' org you suggest would roughly resolve to a 'society for let's we all get filthy rich, and not warren-buffet-usg-rich either, but mircea_popescu-rich'
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 21:27:52; asciilifeform: i might exaggerate slightly, but at any rate it won't be accomplished by a fella with a day job.
danielpbarron:
http://danielpbarron.com/Avatar_X.txt "On why your comment was removed? Well, you decided to do a slight snide remark and at the same time promote another site. If you had just said: qntra is worth a look. they are more into articles and commentary though. Then you comment would be still there."
danielpbarron: a private thing between me and a moderator of "THE Bitcoin Community on Google+ since 2012"
decimation: danielpbarron: someone uses google+ besides poettering?
danielpbarron: i barely use the thing and i have 1/5 the "views" of Ethereum's page
mircea_popescu: i thought it was pretty much dead, goiung the way of te yahoo briefcase or w/e
danielpbarron: if it's dead it's because mods like the one i talked to "remove posts and comments all the time and every single day."
decimation: well, if the numbers above are in the right ballpark, google+ has the population of a county seat in rural kansas
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 23:26:21; kakobrekla: its anal rape half way only
mircea_popescu: decimation i think you're doing it wrong. ~5mn made posts, of a total > 10bn profiles ?
decimation: yeah upon re-reading the article you are right
mircea_popescu: it just doesn't make sense for g+ to only have a few mn profiles for all the resoureces they poured into it.
decimation: that's around the population of arizona
mircea_popescu: more's the point, even that watsapp spam outfit had 100mn active.
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decimation: yeah but that's a slightly different case right? in the sense that whatsapp enabled cross-platform communications?
decimation has never used whatsapp nor ever plans to
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decimation: but if they are simply piping sms from one network to another, than their 'user count' has the same significance as that which the bum who owns brooklyn bridge can claim
mircea_popescu: their user count has as much significance as princess leia's ex boyfriend count.
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 23:47:26; asciilifeform: if you're selling it, having understood the above line of reasoning and can offer no meaningful counter - you are a scammer.
mircea_popescu: and specifically disused by people serious about their crypto
decimation: asciilifeform: actually you could 'harden' a microcontroller against side channel attacks
decimation: asciilifeform: aye. nor could any amount of 'crypto module software' help
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 23:55:48; asciilifeform: airgapped: let's take your word. why, then, do you spend your days working on a problem to which the answer cannot exist ?
mircea_popescu: i know people who try to write novels. another problem for which the solution can not exist.
mircea_popescu: you gotta learn to behead people after rather than before, you nut you.
mircea_popescu: why then doi you claim to solve a problem through a process through which no solution could be had!
mircea_popescu: explicitly : what is the difference between him making secure crypto arms and you cutting random heads ?
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 23:41:18; asciilifeform: it is absolutely essential, to understand what is being spoken of here, to go back to the thread about the specificity of hardware-diddling.
assbot: Logged on 07-03-2015 00:01:46; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and deliberately pseudo-open architecture (runs linux, sure, but with massive closed blobs required even to boot. and vendor regularly pays media mouthpieces to lie about it; also posts astroturfed comments)
decimation: asciilifeform: would you ever voluntarily use a broadcom chip for anything?
decimation: asciilifeform: that's sop in every smartphone that exists
decimation: hopefully one day you will be able to buy your matrix of logic cells from costco to feed into your Mr Fuser
decimation: so prevailing 30 year fixed mortgage rates went from 3.5 to 4.0 in about 2 weeks
decimation: and 10 year treasuries went from %2.1 to %2.25 just today
mircea_popescu: by now every fucking wikipedia entry containing a sum of dollars has to have a "x in 2013 dollars" affixed.
decimation: all this is because usg released a report that said that 30k more people 'have jobs' and wages were flat
mircea_popescu: no, all this because they're not stupid, and would like to not hang.
decimation: which doesn't mean shit for actual economics but means alot for the magic fed decision meter
mircea_popescu: i'm so curious if next mulatoo in chief actually finds a volcker v2.0
decimation: the problem is, if you raise rates to the 18% per annum that real estate prices in new york imply, you quickly find that usg is paying all its tax to debtors
gribble: wences was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 37 weeks, 6 days, 3 hours, 4 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <wences> mircea, are you here?
mircea_popescu: but as a theoretical, probably impractical solution. otherwise, 1-2% hikes each quarter for the next 3-5 years would be what a sane cb would do
mircea_popescu: decimation you don;t mega hike it, you put it on a pain plan.
cazalla: mircea_popescu> archive.today thing works fine. <<< i have started to do this
cazalla: well archive.today provides a download of the archive it makes as well
cazalla: (and yes i know that this cannot be 100% trusted)
mircea_popescu: it makes a nice jpg of the page that can be downloaded.
decimation: pay the little people 0% when inflation is well above 10%?
mircea_popescu: when you tell the slavegirl "today, you X this much, and tomorrow X+k, and so forth each day X+nk"
mircea_popescu: "the only thing you know for sure is that tomorrow's going to be worse" = pain plan
decimation: not only will usg be paying all of its tax revenue to debtors, the fed's $4.5 trillion worth of 3% mortgages won't look so good
mircea_popescu: i'm not a miracle worker, i'm a butcher. i don't revive dead cows, i just cut them apart.
decimation: so at 20% rate, usg pays $3.6 trillion in interest per year. current annual tax revenue is $3.1 trillion
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decimation: asciilifeform: now's the time to import euro strange I guess
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell decimation short explanation as to why exactly it can no longer be fixed.
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mircea_popescu: digging up to see which the fuck earl of somerset was pete talking about (i thought that's a duchy), it turns out there's two different 1st earls of somerset : John Beaufort (Gaunt's son, in 1300s) and Robert Carr, in the 1500s.
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly : the middle german term for a tournament is... butthurt.
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Vexual: why never anyone ups me until i am three sheets?
Vexual: ok so we've got a thing about a cat with good quality management teq
Vexual: weve done poisionous snkes lately tho
Vexual: 8 point, what is this..
Vexual: well, i had this cat wot had 5v kittens
Vexual: one died, presumable of snakebit, and the next day it shooed every other to other places
Vexual: it stopped eating fish and dissappeared,
Vexual: it was eating taipans, and i found them about the house missing the tasty parts, then it really dissappeared but remerged from under a junk pile with 3 new kittens
Vexual: they were the same color but better
Vexual: 2 left and one stayed, and the mother also turned into a footstool, again, presumably snakebite
gribble: xinxi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 13 weeks, 6 days, 5 hours, 3 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <xinxi> no one is here?
Vexual: working on the hutter prize?
Vexual: ^theres some more constraints for your perpect laptop alf
Vexual: if you give a fuck i imagine it makes things real easy
Vexual: my ai prefers wrongness
Vexual: well like your classic laptop is to classic cars, you can do a time test, running your own software
Vexual: and one russiian always wins
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Vexual: hed have b-a logs on a knuckle tattoo
cazalla: what ya drinking this evening Vexual ?
Vexual: beer, ive gotta drive later
Vexual: as people prefer outcomes these days
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cazalla: yeah sounds an idea unless you've only had a few
cazalla: i'm drinking some bundy, meant to drink last night but sidetracked with that orlov article and then zzz
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cazalla: those master distiller's batches they put out over the years have been hit and miss
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cazalla: bah soz vexual, was eating muh dinner
mircea_popescu: heh gotta love the "usg could do shit" muppetry on qntra.
cazalla: i wonder if guy commentating as Jorge Stolfi is Jorge Stolfi
mircea_popescu: who's he again, some random fiat-pushing etatist muppet from brazil ?
cazalla: mircea_popescu, i wouldn't know either way, just saw a wikipedia page!! after googling
mircea_popescu: A Wikipedia contributor, Jorge Stolfi (talk · contribs), may be personally or professionally connected to the subject of this article. Relevant guidelines include Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, Wikipedia:Autobiography, and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view.
mircea_popescu: random etatist muppet from brazil is really a wikipediot first class, too. will wonders never cease.
cazalla: looks like a calypso (iceblock from 80s)
cazalla: danielpbarron, who is avatar x? steph?
cazalla: mircea_popescu: there was a fetlife "btc" fetish group <<< buttcoin? at least it'd be a fitting name
cazalla: had a few too many drinks so..
cazalla: you cam whoring yet indiancandy1 ?
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danielpbarron: cazalla> danielpbarron, who is avatar x? steph? << no idea; some guy who sent me a private message on google+ who thinks he's important or something
danielpbarron: height=257915 vs height=201620 (usb3: height=235018)
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nubbins`: yeah, i read the non-info of the press release bragging about open-sourcing the shim between the cpu and gpu
nubbins`: who gives a fuck about mpeg tho! (aside from those who do)
nubbins`: re: open, it's just the fashionable clothing these days 8)
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nubbins`: my understanding is that mpeg is required for their camera add-on (no idea why)
nubbins`: really don't see the problem w/ swapping out for ogg
nubbins`: and if there's one thing necessary to bringing STEM education to third-world classrooms...
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nubbins` shrugs, continues using raspi as AirPlay receiver
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nubbins`: he's using livejournal, obv masoch
nubbins`: but yeah, 2nd sentence, "I learned some unstated rules about..."
assbot: Logged on 07-03-2015 13:43:26; asciilifeform: nubbins`: and the vendor is an known, egregious, and unrepentant liar, intent on giving an impression of 'open' for some strange reason
mircea_popescu: the eben upton broadcom response to rhel's poettering ?
nubbins`: so, i'm sure we all know why debian is called debian
nubbins`: i'm researching some soy-based industrial cleaning products from a company called franmar
nubbins`: owned by -- you guessed it -- a frank and a marilyn
mircea_popescu: nubbins` because that's the first thin through murdock's mind ?
PeterL: RE gyrojet: one thing that sped failure was 13 mm caliber, which exceeded the 12mm size limit, so needed extra note from stalin
PeterL: it would be interesting to see something a bit larger tried with grenade shell
mircea_popescu: well, it tried for the entire "being apple" marketing thing.
mircea_popescu: no steve, so not the same results, but it does show there exists this partiuclar herd of cattle in the wild, ready for a milking
PeterL: yeah, sort of a small grenade launcher combining some attributes of gyrojet
PeterL: I guess if you scale up any more you get RPG
PeterL knows little about current tech in grenade launcers
mircea_popescu: actually you get the muchly admired panzerhaubitze 2000
PeterL: so my question is if they would be improved by adding gyrojet-type propulsion?
mircea_popescu: "Broadcom Corporation is an American fabless semiconductor company in the wireless and broadband communication business."
mircea_popescu: "Obama is an American educationless Stanford graduate in the politics and constitutional amendments business"
mircea_popescu: "H R Clinton is a American penisless disk jockey in the porn and sexy business"
nubbins`: so franmar's cleaning products are all based on methyl soyate
nubbins`: which means that i can get a goddamn /haze remover/ that's drain-safe :0
PeterL: yesterday I was driving through Western Michigan, saw a house with a big Confederate flag in the front yard. was like WTF?
mircea_popescu: speaking of heavy howitzers : a move reminescent of the dumping of the warthog is the army cancellation of crusader paladin upgrade / any nlsc weapon at all. leaving the paladin, a 1960s make, as the pretty much only us howitzer for the rest of history.
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mircea_popescu: that the russians are beating them at air tech is painful but perhaps unavoidable - kennedy's spur failed to outlast kennedy.
mircea_popescu: but that the germans are beating them over artillery ?! cmon.
PeterL: US verison of "austerity" is to cut the most useful platforms, trying to scare politicians into giving more funding?
nubbins`: mircea_popescu apparently way, way less toxic than traditional haze removers: lye and bleach
mircea_popescu: PeterL i dunno, but the parallels with 1935 england are striking.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu also biodegradable fwiw
mircea_popescu: nubbins` now this all depends. lye and bleach ARE biodegradable.
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nubbins`: Methyl soyate has a high solvency with a Kauri-butanol (KB) value of 58 and has low toxicity when compared to other common substances. In comparison to most commercial solvents, methyl soyate is safer to handle and store due to its high flashpoint of approximately 360 degrees Fahrenheit and high boiling point of well over 400 degrees Fahrenheit. In addition, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) does not list methyl soyate as an
nubbins`: ozone-depleting chemical (ODC), hazardous air pollutant or volatile organic compound. Methyl soyate�s slow evaporation time can be seen as a disadvantage, but in certain applications methyl soyate outperforms other traditional solvents when longer settle times are needed.
nubbins`: (information provided by the United Soybean Board!)
mircea_popescu: anyone recall the florida orange lobby push for "use orange peels in cleanning products" ?
nubbins`: citrus cleaners are still available
nubbins`: you find em at outdoorsy stores sometimes
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i guess they weren't terribad. but still, the push is the lulz.
nubbins`: FWIW i've used these methyl soyate products before
nubbins`: and they're actually fucking *nuts*.
mircea_popescu: "and im happy to report no flying frogs trying to get into the house yet, so there is that."
nubbins`: nod, they just hover outside the windows 8)
mircea_popescu: "making squealing sounds like my ex wife, trying to get me to go out"
mircea_popescu: "but i know better than that, after what happened to little timmy next door."
PeterL: one project I worked at last job on was making a "cleaner" from glycerol (which is a big side product from biodiesel production)
nubbins`: most of what i know about chemistry comes from screenprinting
nubbins`: phun phact, sodium metaperiodite breaks dichromate bonds
nubbins`: or in layman's terms, emulsion remover removes emulsion ;p
PeterL: nubbins`: FWIW i've used these methyl soyate products before << used as solvent?
nubbins`: they fucking *cancel* plastisol inks
nubbins`: i actually did a couple whippets last month for the first time since uni
mircea_popescu: prolly cause they changed the laughing gas for tear gas meanwhile.
nubbins`: besides, not like i'd know the diff
mircea_popescu: anyway, let it be pointed out that kb 50ish is not really high or anything.
PeterL: didn't we decide propane would be a good substitute gas for the whipped stuff?
nubbins`: PeterL propane is used as a propellant in food products
mircea_popescu: PeterL either that or fairy farts, i don't remember. that whole day's a haze.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu try some haze remover
mircea_popescu: there's hazardous chemicals, and then there's hazearduous chemicals.
nubbins`: haze remover was traditionally the most caustic thing in the shop
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know as a kid i used to go to a school whose wooden floorings were turpentined each week ?
nubbins`: incidentally not all solvents are created equal for these jobs
nubbins`: mineral spirits, for example. terrible ink remover.
nubbins`: causes the resin particles to swell
pete_dushenski: two cents say 'sneezing baby panda' runs on the gop ticket against hillary
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mircea_popescu: the greek word for hemlock was translated by the amjew word for turpentine ?!
mircea_popescu: it's damned pine resin you noob! if you can't tell pine from turpentine you've really no business sniffing aromatics!
mircea_popescu: the distillate from corpses of old lawyers and schoolmasters.
PeterL: pete_dushenski: two cents say 'sneezing baby panda' runs on the gop ticket against hillary << are you referring to one of the politicians, or an actual panda?
mircea_popescu: anyway. a) they're mostly using "syntetic" turpentine, which is an oil product ; b) ;;google pistacia terebinthus
pete_dushenski: other potential gop candidates: purple rain, 'leave britni alone', wayahee guy
nubbins`: wow, this ink remover is actually marketed as a /mastic/ remover
nubbins`: "will effectively remove white and yellow mastic and even black asbestos mastic for as low as $.11 per square foot with absolutely no odor and minimal efforts"
pete_dushenski: nubbins`: if you could vote for any american candidate, sure.
nubbins`: yeah, this is all hypothetical
mircea_popescu: fun fact : the island of chios, named Sakız Adası in turkish, is what led to romanian calling it sachiz.
nubbins`: i can only assume this shares a root with the verb "masticate"
mircea_popescu: apparently incredibly loved in the harems, which hadn't yet met the yanks (who had not yet met buffett) so there was no wrigley's.
assbot: Logged on 07-03-2015 04:17:02; decimation: heh EUR/USD fell to $1.08 from $1.10
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: how do you feel about this new canadian exchange?
pete_dushenski: why do i care about chf-cad ? planning a trip there for may upcoming!
pete_dushenski: but yes, i've also seen their ads splashed absolutely everywhere
thestringpuller: why are they generating so much press right now? (other than the "publicly traded")
nubbins`: thestringpuller only remaining canadian exchange
pete_dushenski: because now some derps in vancouver want to 'get on the bitcoin train'
pete_dushenski: and think that this is a reasonable way: advertising! investing! exchanges!
assbot: Logged on 07-03-2015 13:53:13; nubbins`: and if there's one thing necessary to bringing STEM education to third-world classrooms...
mircea_popescu: turbo was for kids tho, we had the one before that. with fake money.
☟︎ pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: sorta my (and i'm sure many other's here) youth
mircea_popescu: The wild ferret web hopper's are designed as specific agents to retrieve data from all available sources on the internet. They work in an onion format hopping from spot to spot one level at a time over the internet. The information is gathered into different relational databases, known as "Hazel's Horde".
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: either way, they seem to be reasonably reliable
mircea_popescu: known as "we're well the fuck confused, and what are these word things again ? ooo... shiny!"
pete_dushenski: quardriga hasn't done anything exceptionally derpy to my knowledge
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: "reasonably reliable" sounds like drug dealer who shows up 5 hours late, but still doesn't short you.
pete_dushenski: lol i think they're better than that. a broker i've done a few deals with swears by gerald's business
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 273.72, Best ask: 273.9, Bid-ask spread: 0.18000, Last trade: 273.65, 24 hour volume: 19983.55257685, 24 hour low: 270.55, 24 hour high: 276.93, 24 hour vwap: None
nubbins`: pete_dushenski i'm just not interested in providing a scan of my passport/drivers license
nubbins`: pete_dushenski i generally do not buy/sell btc
nubbins`: on the rare occasions that i need to, -otc
pete_dushenski: i don't have a ton of personal interest either, just the least stinky poo, i guess.
nubbins`: i'm fascinated that they let you deposit and withdraw physical gold
nubbins`: fuck cavirtex for 4 or 5 reasons
nubbins`: fuck vaultofsatoshi because they dealt in fuckin doge
pete_dushenski: i suppose that relative to doge, gold seems like way less of a scam
nubbins`: "but we're serious biznismen, promise"
nubbins`: where important men do important things!
nubbins`: can someone please explain to me why this is an issue?
nubbins`: "massive panic as government needs to change value of magic number that means nothing"
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thestringpuller: asciilifeform: was thinking about you last night as we were messing with high amp electronics in the car.
thestringpuller: we were drunk as fuck and I immediately though, "would alf approve?" to see whether or not the procedure we were undertaking would kill us
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thestringpuller: i eventually had the thought, "Yea ALF would frown on this, lets die another day shall we?"
nubbins`: good news! my browser appears to be safe from the security bug i just found out about
nubbins`: ...i can't afford another macbook when this one dies?
adlai: asciilifeform: all i know is an HN headline which i didn't bother opening: "[yc company] (YC '15) finds cures for diseases which don't yet exist"
adlai: (some mysteries are best left mysterious)
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kakobrekla: > I saw the Add/Remove option in the usual place. The installer, it must be noted, is completely broken and uninstalls essentially nothing — but broken uninstallers, in and of themselves, are not crimes.
adlai: eh, i'd say that broken uninstallers are 'crimes' at the same level as running a rigged shell game on a touristy broadwalk
adlai: the marks deserve what they get, but i wouldn't want my daughter marrying the dealer
gribble: Current Blocks: 346590 | Current Difficulty: 4.668437631686029E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 346751 | Next Difficulty In: 161 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 4 hours, 12 minutes, and 15 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 47182125267.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 1.0662
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ben_vulpes: asciilifeform has yet to discover "extended care" apparently.
ben_vulpes: has this magical effect of guaranteeing hardware performance for 3 years.
ben_vulpes: it's because you live in the Forbidden City.
ben_vulpes: nobody likes that part of the country.
ben_vulpes: apple ships you people all the 'B' grade hardware.
ben_vulpes: they also know exactly how quality each device is.
ben_vulpes: call cali: "oop, sorry. we don't like your kind."
ben_vulpes: "why are you using macintoshes anyways - don't you get government stipends to buy the 10k windows laptops?"
ben_vulpes: nah, the pentagon can barely intercept mail to Fat Kim that has "TOP SEKKREIT PLZ NO BULLY" written all over it
pete_dushenski: i've even seen the derps in the photo radar trucks using toughbooks around here
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: seen, entirely in character for bezzleprocurement.
ben_vulpes: anyways, feds can't pull their heads out of their arses. apple, otoh, targets you and yours specifically for pain.
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mircea_popescu: <pete_dushenski> lol i think they're better than that. a broker i've done a few deals with swears by << it'd help if he were in wot
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> can someone please explain to me why this is an issue? << because for as long as this is a pretend-issue, they can continue to pretend-ignore the various actual issues.
mircea_popescu: i love how "asap", originally a meek "whenver you have a moment" has meanwhile mutated in usenglish to OMFG RIGHT NOW EMERGENCI
danielpbarron: i actually had a pallet take up precious needed space for longer than expected due to the stupid government shutdown
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> nah, the pentagon can barely intercept mail to Fat Kim that has "TOP SEKKREIT PLZ NO BULLY" written all over it << bwahahaha
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mircea_popescu: "What if the federal government handed you a check for $1,000? Would that go to that new pair of shoes you've had your eye on? Dinner for the family? Credit card bills? The possibilities are endless."
mircea_popescu: "Some would argue it would mean nothing to the U.S. economy or the consumer's budget anyway. Only a rich person would be that insensitive," the "Mad Money" host said.
mircea_popescu: "Here's the good news: you could have already received that $1,000, but from another source. Pretty sweet, right? It landed in your pocket from a combination of the Persian Gulf nations, non-Opec trading partners, and U.S. oil companies.
mircea_popescu: These entities outside of the U.S. have been making money hand over fist for years from oil, and Cramer thinks it is about time that this cartel that kept oil unnaturally high priced for so long return it back to hard working citizens."
mircea_popescu: it just... it's not even bitcointalk level. if these people were fired tomorrow, not all of them would qualify to write ranty nonsensical posts on tardstalk in defense of an entrepreneurial artisan woodcarver or w/e.
mircea_popescu: she looks like a would be porn starlet that didn't make the cut, tbh.
mircea_popescu: i wonder how people justify working there to themselves. "o, i am now stuck in traffic driving towards my workplace, which is cnn. where that fucktard abigail stevenson works. it must mean i'm as incredibly stupid as she is ?!"
mircea_popescu: what goes next ? "no, because i bought that new pair of shoes and dinner" ?
mircea_popescu: "A leading tax expert says the Internal Revenue Service can, and likely will, let HealthCare.gov customers keep their Obamacare subsidies through the end of this year if the high court rules in June that those subsidies are illegal.
mircea_popescu: And that six-month grace period in turn could ratchet up political pressure on Republican opponents of Obamacare to develop a plan to replace the valuable subsidies, which would be expiring right on the eve of the 2016 presidential primary season, instead of this summer."
mircea_popescu: pretty much everything on cnn seems to be on the topic of populism.
mircea_popescu: "About 7.5 million HealthCare.gov customers are at risk of losing those subsidies, which help them pay monthly premiums for health insurance plans purchased through that federally run marketplace that serves 37 states. Experts predict that more than 8 million people would become uninsured next year after finding their plans too expensive without the subsidies, and after plan prices rise to compensate for the loss of cu
mircea_popescu: "Accordingly, I respectfully ask Congress to raise the debt limit as soon as possible," Lew wrote in his letter.
mircea_popescu: "accordingly, we're cutting down our expenditure" said no wh ever.
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mircea_popescu: it's the 1930 anthem of romania's fascist group, rewritten to quite outrageous ribaldry.
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mircea_popescu: oh, the first two are prolly repatriated dead in spain.
mircea_popescu: im not all that up to date to their internal strife, but think in terms of ny mafia. some underboss or other.
mircea_popescu: "Multi legionari ar fi dat orice ca sa-i insoteasca in aceasta Cruciada. Insa lipsa fondurilor si previzibila impotrivire a guvernului fata de o expeditie de amploare au facut ca Legiunea sa trimita pe front o echipa alcatuita din numai sapte oameni." << "everyone wanted to go but too poor to afford the trip, and besides, parents wouldn't approve. so they had their own 7 man condor legion."
mircea_popescu: granted, the communist halp was by and large not much better, but anyway,
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jurov: it already shrugged off a ddos attempt at lower cost than anything else
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8335 @ 0.00038088 = 3.1746 BTC [-]
jurov: well, it's just amazon insists on renaming everything to "elastic cloud". cloudfront is just ordinary CDN and the stuff there is static content.
jurov: and i should shot the word "just" to the head
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ecstaticpessimst: I heard it was a good knowledgable bitcoin community and I wanted to observe
jurov: viva la vivisection
ecstaticpessimst: I havent given anyone that website, i havent added everything ive done to it yet, its like having someone read a book that you've only made loose scribblings on.
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ecstaticpessimst: true, I just have a very small web presense so most of the views come from people Ive met in person and I dont tell them about it usually.
ecstaticpessimst: haha do you actually think so? if so I want to know what you hated about it.
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danielpbarron: Nobody noticed the hat initially. Was the city too busy for the hat to be anything of interest? It took five or so hours of walking around different parts of Manhattan before anyone said anything. When it started to get dark out people reacted completely differently. One person came up to me, asked about the hat and then offered me a range drugs.
http://ecstaticpessimist.in/projects/4-forehead-gallery << LOLOL
danielpbarron: ecstaticpessimst, what's the url I can submit stuff to to make it show up on your test subject's head?
danielpbarron: you might need to ask for a cloak in #freenode / there's a DDoS bot hanging around here
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adlai: "Immediately I noticed the feeling of a fishing line pulling me screen-first throughout the day."
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