phf: asciilifeform: for serious, the utter wtf charging documents
phf: i don't think i can produce any amount of vitriol necessary for the subject
BingoBoingo: phf: Then go to store get vitriol. The kind we (as opposed to ether huffers) deal in is commonly sold as "Amazing liquid fire" drain cleaner.
mats: minitrue come to life
mats: also, Cyber Command is being divorced from NSA
mats: (Director of the NSA no longer also runs CYBERCOM)
phf: "... for countering THE foreign propaganda and disinformation being wages against us and our allies by our enemies."
☟︎ phf: oh right, they are not here..
pete_dushenski:
http://archive.is/0WjCL << Taleb : "The problem with identity politics is that they are fully ignorant of, among other things, history. And they must be as blind visually as they are intellectually."
a111: Logged on 2016-12-25 04:37 phf: "... for countering THE foreign propaganda and disinformation being wages against us and our allies by our enemies."
mircea_popescu: even the comintern knew better than that ; and the comintern consisted of random plow pushers taken to town last spring.
mircea_popescu: how can he be ~this fucking blind~ is beyond conception, and then he talks of "state worshiping iyi". dude... YOURE ON MEDIUM.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-24 16:54 asciilifeform: adlai has one
Framedragger: if i'd known that there'd be so many pops, i wouldn't have plastered my nym on all those gpg keys >.< this *is* a bit spammy...
☟︎ Framedragger: i don't suppose anyone here has messed with android 'adopted' storage? (use sd card as internal encrypted android storage.) i'm trying to recover files from a half-broken 32GB sd card which has weirdo android-internal partitions and encryption.. oh god
☟︎ Framedragger: but it seems that the encryption key is (of course) found on the card itself (one can just dd...), in a weird 'meta' part. it's just aes 128 bit. sek00rity
Framedragger: google aliased dmcrypt to $some_internal_serious_sounding_android_keyword and moved things around...
Framedragger: (ahh, maybe the key *isn't* on the card.. which makes it slightly less retarted; slightly)
mircea_popescu: Framedragger most of the usg corps steal foss and posture as a business strategy.
Framedragger: aha! still funny when it's done so transparently hm
mircea_popescu: the net effect being that it'd take three determined people a few weeks to reconstruct $usg.project's software.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-25 15:48 Framedragger: if i'd known that there'd be so many pops, i wouldn't have plastered my nym on all those gpg keys >.< this *is* a bit spammy...
mircea_popescu: unlike Framedragger , malkovich is actually fucking insufferable.
mircea_popescu: he's meanwhile run out of audience in the states, was mining buenos aires recently. POETRY READING!
Framedragger: nice free association: there's a pretty lulzy but cool film called colour me kubrick. based on tru st0ry in which this almost-homeless alcoholic guy pretends to be kubrick thereby gaining respect, deals, fancy restaurant dining etc. played my malkovich, and it somehow works for me.
Framedragger: (maybe because the guy played is insuffeable, too..)
mircea_popescu: Framedragger we deduce kubrik's wife, christiane, was sexually unsatisfied by kubrik's cock (oliver ?)
phf: i only saw him in that one movie, and it's my humorous goto visual metaphor for malignant narcissism. i sometimes think that he's only popular in u.s. because of his funny sounding last name, kind of like zizek. like there's a weird feedback loop between the last name and certain kind of social eccentricity
mircea_popescu: phf i dunno, the eastern european name is in my head taken over by that piece of furniture besson was infatuated with at some point.
mircea_popescu: she wasn't even hot in any sense, dear god, any highschool in the region could have provided two better in the same vein.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes hey, they get their tin womenz and we get ours, then we watch the catfight to end all wars.
mircea_popescu: Security specialist Bruce Schneier, for one, does not see any urgent need for better random numbers. Schneier helped create the widely used Fortuna pseudorandom-number generator, and says there are already many adequate sources. "In my world no one's worried about this," he said. "These systems already work" to provide secure communications when attention is paid to all of the other implementation details. "We have lots of pr
phf: oooh jovovich. yeah..
mircea_popescu: one way to look at thw hole "gay rights" thing is, "the dudes who'd rather fuck boys really belong on their own reservation rather than flooding the market with dumb looking tomboys"
mircea_popescu: and in lafond lulz, "I used to work with Mister Bill, who was retired from Army Intelligence in the early 1970s. During the Vietnam War he tortured Viet Cong and NVA regulars at Fort Meade—no shit. he trained guys in field interrogations using real enemy. This guy looked like Eliot Ness—used to intimidate all of is coworkers just by the way he smoked his cigarette and wore his fedora. A 13-year-old kid stuck him up while
mircea_popescu: he was sitting in his car. He told me that he was impressed by the kid's composure and thought he's make a good field operative..."
mircea_popescu: i get it, every housewife must have her dreams, but dude, notice that your mythological avatar... GOT ROBBED ?
mircea_popescu: i'm supposed to be impressed with some dork who ran around threatening "to tell" on everyone in the schoolyard for smoking because his mommy told him to, oh noes, prohibition agent / hero. ffs already.
mircea_popescu: at this rate it's a wonder lafond isn't wearing a gut halter. god knows his mommy did! and her mommy before her!
phf: well, besson was making decade appropriate genre movies. new york new wave did the whole androgyny in the 80s, by the 90s everyone else caught up. plus there was gainsbourg paving the way with his épatage
mircea_popescu: the fucking point is - whatever some old fart with a good old fart story the other old farts eat up THOUGHT, the street tough didn't think he made a good "fiedl operative". in positive fact he made a good victim and no more.
mircea_popescu: phf but my idea is... the "androgyny" thing only exists because gay dudes masquerading.
mircea_popescu: once that went away, "the androgyny thing" that never was a thing to begin with ~if you weren't really into fucking boys~ also went away.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> the fucking point is - whatever some old fart with a good old fart story the other old farts eat up THOUGHT, the street tough didn't think he made a good "fiedl operative". in positive fact he made a good victim and no more. << /me read it as old fart who was was befroe becoming old fart thought child robber would make good field operative. But the crime as I read is he doesn't figure that the child already is a field oe
mircea_popescu: how can i distinguish this story from "roger ver, who once had the most bitcoins of anyone on the planet, thinks thedaoattacker would make a fine bitcoin developer" ?
mircea_popescu: it's not even deep enough, because not only "he's all tough and shit like lock ness monster" claim holds , but the fducking monster ISNT TOUGH.
BingoBoingo: WAS, stooges tend to lose their toughness when the age out of the stoogery in USG land
BingoBoingo: Or stories of badassery are drunken fictions
mircea_popescu: it has all the cachet and all the panache of a "christian rockstar" - the result of a trainload of philistine running out of coal in a desert of stupid.
BingoBoingo: Well, there are many deserts of stupid and only so much coal. Most of which goes into lighting the desert of stupid
phf: aah, i see your point, though i'm not sure about the definition of a thing in relation to "really into". a thing is a fad. gays started this particular fad, "everyone" was on board for a bit, until the aids epidemic. i think shoulder pads for example are androgynous, likewise a fad
mircea_popescu: i thought shoulderpads were the first dry run of the whole "i r lion hear me roar!" thing.
mircea_popescu: they did tend to go mostly with lion's made hairdos for womenz.
mircea_popescu: ie, "feminist" made not "political-identity-gay" made. mostly because at the time gay==faggot, there wasn't a "political-identity-gay" machine.
mircea_popescu: so, predictably, they just parasithized it, because of the wanna-be-woman faggotry, some wanna be woman "as historical essence" and some "as current fashion", so you ended up with that wham idiot doing shoulderpads and girly hairdos ; and sir what's his face, the fat ugly one doing "historical hats like queen liz"
BingoBoingo: BUt anyways, the US is divided into two areas. Ones where you can sit in your car, make phone calls, and smoke all the cigarettes you want in said car; and places where if you sit in your car too long after car stops a child puts a gun in your face.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo and has been, since at least the 70s. we used to call the 2nd area "the bronx"
mircea_popescu: but hey, provincial towns gotta copy new york don;t they.
mircea_popescu: heh. did this one also torture martians / rape baby seals or is he from the other side of the Great Delusion.
phf: haha, well, we're on the same page. i have a soft spot for shoulder pads, because that's your 80s moscows, blade runner, so i just can't see them in terms of "hear me roar". but i think we had the whole sean young thread before..
mircea_popescu suspects the proper romanian expletive to discuss these dorks would be "sa-mi bag pula-n ei de figuranti ; ma pis pe ma-sa si-i dau foc."
mircea_popescu: phf ftr you definitely gotta see the recent triad if you haven't already.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Parked car predators know no limits after Micheal Brown put all that fear into poor Ferguson police officer back in 2014.
phf: mircea_popescu: triad?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Nah that one was a "Lives matter" activist turned state legislator
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo they do have a point, man at wheel is uniquely vulnerable, law doesn't much help.
BingoBoingo: I mean in St Louis they also got governor elect's wife
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo how the fuck all these mytologizing gimps fail to point out that loch ness' job was to bring down al capone, AT WHICH JOB HE FAILED ? he's like the che guevara of the gynecaeum i swear.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: They fail to point it out because they suck and their heros need to suck.
mircea_popescu: yes but if they know this why do they also insist to suck cunt of all things.
BingoBoingo: Screw get softer, except some people make tougher OMGWTFBBQ wood screws for the purpose of framing more thing whish probably ought not be wood of wood.
BingoBoingo: Or why bars get filled fake old crap just because one bar filled with old crap managed to open a second location back in the day.
BingoBoingo: Where what is proper is that things in the bar get old because bar gets old
BingoBoingo: I'm not in a bar, but I have some vague memories of what bars were like.
BingoBoingo trying to try to describe examples of the sort of infectious stupidity that makes losers hold up loser "heros" instead of actual heros
BingoBoingo: The stupidity that hits a critical mass and becomes "Hussein Bahamas presentes: How the World Works"
ben_vulpes: ah yes, eight is a better number than ten.
ben_vulpes: in other nyooz, $offspring issued his first low-ambiguity ASL gesture this morning: 'food'
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo anyway, it's particularly offensive because the dood was the stereotypical lush-with-hallucinated-war-stories.
BingoBoingo: Particular example was offensive, but "sitting in a car" seems like its on its way to becoming the new "nailgun accident"
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, "To all BNet visitors, due to unprecedented scamming on the BNet Forum, we have been forced to shut the facility down. We are looking at alternative systems that will allow us to restart the Forum under a much better security protocol. We hope to be able to restart the Forum sometime in the New Year. Thank you for visiting the Forum and hope to see you again there in the New Year. To all who had signed up, we
ben_vulpes: there are several dozens of eggs worth of quiche in this house right now, and myriad cakes
ben_vulpes: and i have 'convinced' the girls to make the traditional family coffee cake
ben_vulpes: where 'convince' is something along the lines of "no seriously you have all the ingredients it would be a sin to not make it. also i want it. so..."
mircea_popescu: i went around distributing tinned biscuits this morning.
mircea_popescu: how's tinned biscuits you ask ? why, you take a gingerbread round, put it in a jar lid, cover it in rum and there you go - tinned biscuit!
mircea_popescu: mp-haus gingerbread style is very gingery and very dry. apparently ginger bread varies a lot.
ben_vulpes: there's one shallot, one cheese and sausage, one mushroom spinach, and one more plain
mircea_popescu: it's somewhat regrettable we can't house visit and try these.
ben_vulpes: i assume good mushroom, $girl went out and selected them from the hipsters herself
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> i went around distributing tinned biscuits this morning. <- it gave me this fleeting image of a red-hatted mp with a huge jar going round the neighbourhood
ben_vulpes: i'm not even going to start on the five courses currently under preparation
ben_vulpes: i only really know what one of the courses is, am content to let the chefs work their surprise magic
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ahaha check out all the effort they put into it. "the website", really ?
mircea_popescu: from now on it's "The webiste 'whitehouse' based in maryland".
mircea_popescu: (cur | prev) 01:18, 10 May 2014 Agyle (talk | contribs) . . (4,611 bytes) (-40) . . (removed reference to mpex.co, not reliable source, and didn't seem to verify information anyway. see WP:RS.) (undo)
mircea_popescu: (cur | prev) 01:14, 10 May 2014 Agyle (talk | contribs) . . (4,651 bytes) (-42) . . (removed loper-os reference, not a reliable source. see WP:RS.) (undo)
mircea_popescu: ^ from the history. check out what isn't a reliable source. epic shit.
mircea_popescu: also looks like this is the first time anyone read that article since 2014. who knew nobody gives a shit about wikipedia.
BingoBoingo: WTF, of course he's happy to "begin anew". All his old shit is gone and now he gets those sweet gentile insurance premiums.
mircea_popescu: disqus is a pos ; but if you give it a day and a half eventually it jumps to the spot.
mircea_popescu: "I suspect old Bingo is something of a disinformation hoax."
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's mildly amusing to watch internet people act under a very earnest notion that the portion of any one thing that they ran across has, grace to half a minute's meditation, formed a complete and useful image in their heads.
BingoBoingo: lol "I suspect old Bingo is something of a disinformation hoax.
BingoBoingo: What I have found interesting is that the professed liberals only began reacting to it when I posed the possibility after 24 hours."
mircea_popescu: it's hard out there for a cuck when tryina make da money for da lulz
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform, mod6: subject of "making things 1000x more complex" i embarked on handling various conditions a v might encounter (missing pubkey, unsigned patch, mismatched hashes after a press...) and i daresay the volume of code must increase!
ben_vulpes: "help" is the motherfucking dog whistle of the left
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'm happy to implement post-patch hash checks
ben_vulpes: what guarantees have i of this "should"?
ben_vulpes: fwiw i have a full-killer sitting in my workdir, for release later
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: only patch's fuzzy application, nothing more.
mircea_popescu: anyway alf has it - there's no need to handle what you list other than by not using them
ben_vulpes: sb-ext, and rail at me for using an implementation-dependent sub program library if you will, does not seem to signal error conditions when external programs exit with nonzero code
ben_vulpes: so i'm writing some trivial conditions for when it does fail, which means handling eg missing gpg keys
ben_vulpes: the situation's a good example of the tension between writing code that does one thing really specifically well, and fits-in-head, vs a larger program that handles eg conditions and the concomittant complexity
ben_vulpes: i explicitly tested error code downstream of sb-ext. it's not that it "doesn't pass error codes" it's that error code is surfaced in the process struct that sb-ext:run-program returns
ben_vulpes: i was a bit surprised that sb-ext:run-program did not signal a condition when the program so ran exited with something other than zero.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes to my eyes "the situation" ie, the developer's own private choice, illustrates the natural tendency of one to cruft up his workbench.
ben_vulpes: any suggestions on where up the tree to nuke a branch and reduce complexity?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes just have it silenty discard all patches that aren't sealed properly for the narrow definition of properly neh ?
ben_vulpes: i suppose there's no practical way around the patches and signatures sharing a prefix.
ben_vulpes: it costs in complexity, yes. could be argued that it is a very minimal cost, but i would still prefer to "pick any signature from .seals that verifies" instead of the by my read promisetronic "pick any signature whose filename contains the filename of the patch under verification"
mircea_popescu: i don't get it. suppose you ran a maternity ward, would you go "adding nametags to the kids adds complexity, just send the mothers naked in a room fulla puppies let them pick which fit to their teat" ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno how either the current method adds complexity (show this ?) or the alternative isn't rank insanity. why should i have to look at >1 seal to verify a patch ?
mircea_popescu: (and please don't tell me your idea is that the reason room-fulla-puppies isn't how maternity wards are ran is because cunt runs on perl and most kids therefore fit to most teats.)
ben_vulpes: i was holding that one in abeyence for lols
ben_vulpes: also that mothers know which baby is theirs and a signature can't tell me which patch it belongs to
ben_vulpes: look i'm pointing at a promisetronic bit of v and saying "hey look i think this is a bit floppy"
ben_vulpes: the naive o(n^2) calculation is to say "there is a signature for this patch" and not giving a shit about which signature, provided it corresponds to a key in .wot .
ben_vulpes: in which i realize that to get code review in tmsr you have to paste it into irc one line at a time
mircea_popescu: anyway, the idea is maximum power for the user. a scheme whereby i am forced to check all seals for each patch dispowers me ; a system whereby i can always resolve each patch in at least 1 checks or however many i feel like doing empowers me.
mircea_popescu: now, there's entirely nothing "promisetronic" about people providing seals named as their patches are named. if they fail to do this - their patch won't work.
ben_vulpes: it is a small but worth-noting difference between "put yer patches in this here directory, your signatures in this other, and your pubkeys in this third".
☟︎ mircea_popescu: anyway the jewish thing is proceeding nicely, israel no longer funding un bodies ; israel ministers no longer allowed to visit countries or meet officials from 14 list.
Framedragger: unrelated; such heavy reliance on archive.is by qntra, irc forum et al. scares me. it seems to be doing ~fine and i like the owner's attitude (
http://archive.is/faq), but 'someone' should make another one
mircea_popescu: the problem of saving html soup well is hard ; phf announced working on it some time ago but i dunno how it goes.
BingoBoingo: links are a courtesy, if html soup dies then it dies
mircea_popescu: Framedragger we do also have a scheme whereby we save the plain data and deedbot under consideration, but meh.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu are you referring to the time-honoured "put some irc logs into deedbot" practice? :D (that i'd seen)
mircea_popescu: "I knew Obama was looking to take sweet revenge against Israel and Netanyahu. Since he was elected in 2009, he was hostile to settlements and Netanyahu. He revealed his true face with an anti-Israel decision but Netanyahu and Israel will defeat him." << they very likely will, too.
mircea_popescu: imagine, to go in trying to fight "world problems", to be fucked raw by putin and eventually defeated... by fucking israel.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger nah, it's in the logs, have an auto dld of links
a111: Logged on 2016-12-24 16:53 gabriel_laddel: common lisp rsa when
a111: Logged on 2016-12-25 15:51 Framedragger: i don't suppose anyone here has messed with android 'adopted' storage? (use sd card as internal encrypted android storage.) i'm trying to recover files from a half-broken 32GB sd card which has weirdo android-internal partitions and encryption.. oh god
Framedragger: (and don't use 'adopted storage' in android in the future. it's stupid.)
ben_vulpes: well that'd be in stark contrast to the claim i remember