asciilifeform: most of the truly egregious wtf is in this last turd.
asciilifeform: then, they died, what remained, turned to the neurotypical baseline human turd mass, yes.
asciilifeform: soooo somebody linked this turd, https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/575 , and i read the paper to try an' see how the fuck a gizmo that requires you to send bitcoin to folx you don't know can be 'trust-free'. took exactly 30 seconds to read to the point where it relies on 'timelocked' transactions.
asciilifeform: see, i am willing to buy 10k box, or whatnot, to get fast clim. but i am not willing to close eyes and call a turd sausage.
asciilifeform: the linked alt also introduces a backbreaking pseudomathematical turd, similar to the one discussed in the homomorphism thread a while back
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: one of your earlier links contained yet another 'happy surprise' - there are TWO INCOMPATIBLE keccaks floating around, by decree of His Putrid Majesty, one of'em is simply the normal keccak but it appends a constant turd to the input (nfi why)
asciilifeform: ftr, if the amd turd is anything like other recent similar, you will also need ion beam machine
asciilifeform: thing hashes a fixed-length turd, it would seem.
asciilifeform: but i bet that it'd happily eat a collided turd
asciilifeform: (i.e. if the collision needs to be a turd in a similar format)
asciilifeform: this is artifact of the turd world being ~decade behind the planned-obsolescence curve.
asciilifeform: mepian: what i want to make is a ZERO-closed-vendor-turd machine, among other things. and no existing fpga gives you this.
asciilifeform: on the other hand, if tarver - or anybody 'open source has failed!111' else - thinks that i am going to build anything whatsoever on top of his closed turd, he is smoking dope.
asciilifeform: it refused to log 'oversized' turd at all
asciilifeform: lel i was all this time debugging a turd under winxp and i dare say i had moar fun than you lot.
asciilifeform: not merely from this one turd, but from the pile of undocumented and winblows-only hardware that if stacked would reach to pluto.
asciilifeform: which is a new turd, in the ssh turdlist.
asciilifeform: how? by masamuneing the thing into a c turd ?
asciilifeform: why is the turd still floating, trinque ?
asciilifeform: however a rocket is a considerably simpler device than a recoilless rifle, with the vortex tube, and is the correct solution to 'fire from a floating turd'
asciilifeform: just like the idiot 'tamper seals' that are trivially broken every day, not only by usg but by turd world pissant secret services, merely by penetrating the ENVELOPE.
asciilifeform: (in ~unrelated noose, asciilifeform went looking to buy a box of proximity switches, for cnc box. they are sorta like thumb-sized metal detectors with 1 bit of output. and ALL OF the extant offers come with 'this is chinese turd, randomly fails.' and consider, these exist SOLELY to keep large, expensive iron from colliding with itself...)
asciilifeform: srsly it is not enough that we have the gnudiff turd baked in ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-22#1526615 << my complaint is that it adds a meg of UNREADABLE and - largely UNTESTABLE (i do not have a VMS box, nor a machine with zsh or ksh, nor do i intend to , and i REFUSE to sign code that claims to run there , srsly wtf omfg) - and that it introduces massive turd, useless language m4, go and learn it, read the implementation☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: automake works when very carefully used, but the result is a massive turd that is autogenerated, that NO ONE will ever read, and does ???. with 10,001 system-specific #ifdef's.
asciilifeform: 'automake' is the massive turd that runs when you ./configure .
asciilifeform: and yes, apparently microshit implemented a turd that takes ~none of the commands eaten by actual curl OR wget, but is symlinked to BOTH names.
asciilifeform: mod6: in traditional diff, turning a deleted turd into a massive ball of minus is arguably necessary, to prevent patch from applying to arbitary item
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 i came to this by attempting vdiff of gnupg 1.4.10 vs their .21 release from wednesday, and ending up with an unreadable 8MB turd, they moved/rm'd a buncha files.☟︎
asciilifeform: 'your phone just downloaded a 200MB turd'
asciilifeform: at any rate, the thing 'ipython', 'sage', etc. imitate, is 'mathematica', which is a close-source turd but at least it WORKS and WILL WORK FOREVER on my internet-less machine.
asciilifeform: 'Twitter needs better tools to curb hate speech' << the crescendo, in linked turd.
asciilifeform: at any rate, nothing precludes listening for new turd WHILE running current one.
asciilifeform: (thing is per se almost like ocr in terms of sheer bowel-loosening turd-shedding)
asciilifeform: the peter todd turd is a true classic of its genre: 'we gotta commit an atrocity. but we first will get CONSENSOOOS!!1111 so then it won't be an atrocity, fuckyou. and btw we control the vertical and the horizontal and all the votez, so fuckyou.x2'☟︎
asciilifeform: which - whatddoyaknow - confirms that mircea_popescu was partly right, the turd broadcasts a random selection of mempool at all times...
asciilifeform: (iirc this was mentioned in logz somewhere. presently it multiplies old_primorial * next_prime(old_prime), but this is wasteful, ought to happen in batches so that massive turd is multiplied only rarely)
asciilifeform: because if i cannot determine mechanically 'this is THE thing that ~i~ wrote' vs 'this is SOME OTHER thing that i must now read with magnifying glass' this wastes potentially weeks, months, years (depending on mass of turd) of my time.
asciilifeform: for absolutely nothing, esp. if you can offload the cost of your turd being pwned weekly, needing 16GB of ram, crashing daily, etc. on OTHER PEOPLE☟︎
asciilifeform: iirc ff is a single threaded turd even.
asciilifeform: so far there are only really 2 genuine mysteries -- 1) who generated the mirrored keys 2) which winblowz turd of a pgptron used unfiltered sewage for rsa modulus
asciilifeform: and what's more, this is how random turd behaves (try it)
asciilifeform: no it is also a pgp key turd, that is re-parsable to obtain all of these
asciilifeform: (massive, unreadable c turd, with plenty of verbatim common with openssl)
asciilifeform: at one point - in fact, until very recently - i would compulsively dig in and, weeks later, would, e.g., 'yet another google turd'
asciilifeform: so the turd he was diffing matched, but there was moar.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: anything ever showing up in the usual 8ball can only be a factor of a random turd
asciilifeform: can anyone actually reply to the seclist turd ?
asciilifeform: in particular, i believe that satoshi's turd is an abomination and is barely fit for any use at all, and ought to be discarded as soon as a politically reliable alternative exists - but there is no way to infer this from what patches i have signed.☟︎