BingoBoingo: <shinohai> Yeah and I see my Qntra mistake now, was hoping BingoBoingo could graciously edit, or I'll send in a rewrite. << fxd
☟︎ BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu>
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-17#1467679 << omfg now i also wonder what's in bb's tobacco. this insanity coallesced in my head like that iconic cartoon scene of all the clocks going off, except you know... with loud obnoxious two stroke engines. << More noise == More Powah
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2016-05-17 16:02 BingoBoingo: Anyways, prolly ought to convert as many appliances as you can from electric to 2-cycle gas motors because Hitler hates their farts.
mircea_popescu: kinda impressive how re-readable trilema is, 3 years later.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo by this logic, women and small children have all the powah.
mircea_popescu: (ftr, while "internet brands" is exactly the same shit as interactive corp, it's patently untrue vbulletin was ever anything but a steaming pile of shit.)
ben_vulpes: i see kakobrekla fixed the "no loglines no prev/next" bug
mircea_popescu: hey ben_vulpes , would it be possible to move the orig link right under the wotpaste header, and add a home one next to it ?
a111: Logged on 2016-05-18 13:30 asciilifeform: l0g is dead...
phf: asciilifeform: i'm watching it, i already have an xl1201 though. i might bid on this one for parts, but there's a lot of eyes on it. i wouldn't be surprised if it climbs to 5-7k
mircea_popescu: i suspect the nostalgia is a subset of "i long for the days before we started using freenode, and so it wasn't being served gagged supoenas, and so it was almost usable"
phf: i'm surprised twenex did an open bid though, guy is notorious for selling smbx boxes for 5k starting price
mircea_popescu: i don't suppose anyone else has any competing theory re their "we've been haxxed, report soon to follow. 1,2,3 <crickets>" dog and pony show last year ?
mircea_popescu: and in other webswamp lulz, "Rara Vintage Hacking computadora Symbolics XL1201 maquina Lispo".
mircea_popescu: i suppose i should be fucking thankful they don't use some EGOG charset.
mircea_popescu: also how the fuck is $500 weight in plutonium, what is this, my inexistent piercing ?
mircea_popescu: they don't even have the decency to alter the url. (google forcibly redirects you, because WE HAVE THIS FEATURE AND YOU MUST USE IT!!! OBAMACARE!!11)
phf: yeah, last one i bought for 4100 and twenex was "surprised it went to cheap"
mircea_popescu: phf he has a point, if you consider that have you saved the money back in 86, put it in apple shares, and then use it to bid now 4k would be what, 3% ?
mircea_popescu: weight in plutonium for this item is hereby defined as "in excess of 1mn usd / kg".
mircea_popescu: good luck replacing massive steel. you know what i had to go through to get a suspension hemicile made ?
mircea_popescu: (for the noobs : the suspension hemicicle is a 1.5 rad section of thick steel pipe, curved around a radius of about 4 meters. sits on welded legs made of the same material, 1 rad sections curved around radius of 1 m. it allows you to tie hands and feet of slavegirl, let her suspend for a good fucking, thrasing, or just sunbathing)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you can't machine this stuff in your garage.
mircea_popescu: shinohai yeah, but that stops with inch or maybe inch and a half thick. the instrument needed here is the size of alf's house.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "off the shelf" in argentina means you can have a bottle of water.
mircea_popescu: and from what i'm hearing the us is following its socialist destiny towards argentinization.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i bet you dollars to donuts you have there some sort of plastic/zamak bs which, if put into serious use, would bend like playdo
mircea_popescu: avoid injury. what you use the thing for is ... kinda intense.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform think, "one man can transport it" means "you'll end up transporting it with your penis".
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mircea_popescu: awmaygerd get a blog man. you'll regret not having after years of pastes that went away
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform also this is outdoor item, properly coated pipe is good outside. fittings fucking rust. and on it goes.
Framedragger: yeah that is probably true. i didn't think it was worthy of a blog post so to speak, but yeh
mircea_popescu: Framedragger blogging essentially is "a valuable collections of items that, on their own, would probably not have been worth it"
Framedragger: i guess i can post that text as comment on original blog post
mircea_popescu: just like a book. who reads looseleaf pages of novels.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform suppose one day you have to clean blood/shit/piss off your fucking fittings.
mircea_popescu: which you have put a gasket on to keep airtight, now you need a supply of new gaskets... fuck this inept doj style provisioning.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform fuckhouse and slaughterhouse have a lot in common. i'm at a loss to even distinguish.
mircea_popescu: and the reason i had to have it fucking machined is exactly this, "oh sounds like hammock stand we got that" "bitch, did i say this pos ?!" "oh, it's just as good!" "go make a fucking website somewhere".
Framedragger: i wasn't sure whether you intended for there to be a facility to post unencrypted public texts, for example (that is, that there would be a way to not only encrypt text to recipient key or set of keys corresponding to, say, a particular group - but also to post plaintext for meet-and-greet, whatnot).
mircea_popescu: Framedragger answered./ i'll be off to town now, but we can continue this discussion once i'm back, feel free to add comments.
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Framedragger: mircea_popescu: great, thank you! will do (i'll be on-and-off today, too)
a111: Logged on 2016-05-18 14:47 asciilifeform: pete_dushenski, by all appearances, seems to live in a peculiar reaganite fantasy planet where su refugees cream their pants upon tasting delicious american mickeydee, and wax ecstatic while kissing bald eagle in the beak without having to watch out for kgb and no longer having to feed the bear or adjust the vodka level in the house reactor.
Framedragger: ^ that's a bit incorrect, she's already been living in berlin, but had to visit family etc in US; so not really "on the run"
☟︎ shinohai: Sure, run to Germany. You'll be safe there dove.
BingoBoingo: Wait so her, Appelbaum and all the other "exiled" Tor developers are in German?
Framedragger: i'd just think that they prefer that environment to the other, is all
Framedragger: ahhh. i should have known; hence all the names; thanks asciilifeform
Framedragger: gossipd is more of a federated social chat system i guess
Framedragger: well, i too like non-garbage-collected no-bullshit systems languages. but golang is not shit just because it's golang. unless reasons? but maybe you've elaborated on this before..
Framedragger: well, agl is part of chrome security team, so i guess that's one more reason for you to dismiss pond
Framedragger: i just think someone may have a hard on for hating X (for good reasons) but not dismiss things produced by X prima facie. then again, i suppose it's a useful heuristic in resource/time scarce universes to do just that :)
☟︎ Framedragger: have you noted any of those instances on your blog on somewhere? would be an interesting read
mircea_popescu: and why'd you install "a server" as distinct from just merging phuctor db ? wtf is this, since when do we credit sks-pr ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'd say that in the interest of conserving manpower, the realtime leeching should not be a priority (honestly, it wasn't in my mind anyway, giving the ease with which hitler'd have turned it off anyway). instead the priorities for phuctor are :
mircea_popescu: 1. make the 8ball auto-update on a reasonable server load, fully automated. this will provide nice passive gains. also have it published somewhere.
mircea_popescu: 2. get the rsa conversion to the official tmsr universal rsa format discussed in logs.
mircea_popescu: 3. get the ssh keys, the github keys, and the silk road dump keys 2'd and fed into phuctor.
mircea_popescu: 4. convert the phuctor key db into a sks as per republican spec. the strategy being that we will confiscate all public key crypto just like we confiscated bitcoin from the fucktarded zombie horde.
mircea_popescu: 1 is something you must do yourself, ideally asap. 2 and 3 is something others can do and therefore should. 4 is not urgent. so therefore : do 1 and move on to other things for a while.
mircea_popescu: 2-3 not for you ; 4 for you eventually, depending on dfemand. maybe autumnish
a111: Logged on 2016-05-18 15:22 Framedragger: ^ that's a bit incorrect, she's already been living in berlin, but had to visit family etc in US; so not really "on the run"
a111: Logged on 2016-05-18 15:27 asciilifeform: it will be truly comedic if it turns out that the performance of the clowns starring in the 'tor is genuine obstacle to usg, really, believe' circus ends up extending to hanging
a111: Logged on 2016-05-12 15:47 mircea_popescu: also, please don't refer to tmsr as "a community". it is not "a community", it is your liege.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-18 16:04 Framedragger: i just think someone may have a hard on for hating X (for good reasons) but not dismiss things produced by X prima facie. then again, i suppose it's a useful heuristic in resource/time scarce universes to do just that :)
mircea_popescu: turns out bitcoin is pretty fucking valuable, 86 btc ~= 1 bn usd.
mircea_popescu: buyt the very chump lists in question are supposed to be the "secret" reason the "company" is "worth" n billionz.
mircea_popescu: you know, like any ponzi ever, they're extracting valuable value out of trade with spain.
mircea_popescu: cocacola does not propoise that the reason it somehow has value (notwithstanding it exists as a rented office with five derps in it) is its "market share"
mircea_popescu: linkedin and the rest of the post-senility berkshire investments are all a "here's where you can give us stuff".
mircea_popescu: "imagine - if we put a garbage can in every campus, people could throw GOLD BARS!! and FAST CARS! in there".
mircea_popescu: THAT is the frucking busienss model of all these internet shits, linkedin, twitter, facebook, you name it.
mircea_popescu: somehow it doesn't occur to them that the sort of people they reach don't have fucking gold bars;
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform crediting linkedin for finding work is like crediting the toilet stall for finding a new future ex wife.
mircea_popescu: aha. quite advanced too. i jusrt assumed ebay must be doing something to stay in the game
pete_dushenski: the thesis reduces to 'old soviets didn't have it so bad, new soviets have it worse than they realise'
pete_dushenski: speaking of ebay, i always thought pitney bowes (oft forced upon shipping intermediary) was a subsidiary. looks like not.
mircea_popescu: no wai. every derpy graduating hs class gets 30 virginal kid asses on a rented limo.
mircea_popescu: su restaurant ~= nomenklatura. they'd kick uppity proles right out.
mircea_popescu: if you had the dough you could go explain how you got it to teh militsya
mircea_popescu: dough. wtf dough. commie restaurant meals were ~ the price of a loaf of bread
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: sounds like su restaurant was more properly speaking 'fine dining' contemporarily (ie. $40-60 entree)
mircea_popescu: right, or else in those stand-up bufes with milk specialties and breads
mircea_popescu: pretty much the same effect on my hindbrain as i suppose the "NUDE GIRLS" shows for vegas habituals
mircea_popescu: funny how that shit works, nothing spells collegiate cunt quite like Sana
pete_dushenski: afaik these types of cafeterias are still known in eg. poland. 'milk bars'
mircea_popescu: yeah but the milk specialties are gone and the pastries are shit
mircea_popescu: "iaurt", which is not merely yoghurt, but a very speciffic thing ; sana ; lapte batut (sort of like buttermilk) etc
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> amazon is an actual store. << More a vehicle for various LLC's incorporated at a single home in Wyoming to play store
trinque: pete_dushenski │ very small rocks << ehehe
pete_dushenski: reminiscent of stories i've read from croatia (and rest of east bloc presumably) where tp was golden after the fall.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: you give beebs too much credit. a warehouse full of tp will go unmolested for maybe a decade or two, then ya, when push comes to shove you get some security
pete_dushenski: in the meantime, it just needs to be kept dry and pest free
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski did you also read the stories about how you needed a sniper assassination squad just to visit your own outhouse ?
pete_dushenski: but in the mid-term, all the shit will coalesce, no doubt
a111: Logged on 2016-05-11 19:33 mircea_popescu: fwiw, young males that aren't entirely dumb go almost universally through this phase of "fantasy busienss" where they keep doing various coups in their heads, start a carwash then buy a shoestore with the proceeds then trade that in for a chain fo restaurants etc etc etc.
pete_dushenski: lel. couldn't be more relevant. i have not one but two amigos who are actively searching for... car washes
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski tell them to hire chicks for lewd and lascivious washing
mircea_popescu: should prolly brand it as such, "Bob and Joe's Lewd and Lascivious Carwash"
pete_dushenski: both quite seriously. car washes seem to run $600k - 1 mn around here. claimed revenue around $150k per annum
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: do you know for a fact that khodorkovsky didn't stock tp up to the rafters ?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: depends where. though with weed about to be legal, probably more places soon to be.
a111: Logged on 2015-04-07 00:10 mircea_popescu: just like having a car doesn't alow having gasoline. it's true that often people who have cars also independently have gasoline, but the two are fundamentally unrelated, and there is such a thing as the fool's breakdown, ie, car's outta gas on the side of hte road.
pete_dushenski: lol!1 i always thought torahs (torot?) were carried in brinks trucks or similar
pete_dushenski: e set of skills necessary, and they would generally give notice and move to other restaurants in our community who were still on a traditional tip economy."
pete_dushenski: i never could quite understand the 'no tipping' blather. never seemed like much of a trend. turns out, i was right!
mircea_popescu: who the fuck hires noobs as free agents. if you train them, they either pay or indenture wtf.
pete_dushenski: aha. that. ya, quite strange that it's not minimum 6mo or 1yr
pete_dushenski: perhaps too expensive to enforce against such a transient population
mircea_popescu: anyway. waitstaff in the us etc is miserable for turnover anyway. mostly because it's almost entirely manned by out of work strippers and other college students. who stick for a job on a project-base, she needs an abortion, works three weeks
mircea_popescu: wants new matress, you get maybe five weeks out of her. etc.
mircea_popescu: partly understandable, the patron menagerie is outrageous.
phf: i think restaurants in su were still question of money. grandpa designed rockets, so my mom would go to restaurants with girlfriends growing up (later she worked at Sovicenter, which is a whole different level of access), and she would quote prices like 2.30 for a coffee and eclair. i think junior engineer salaries were somewhere around 90, a well to do pleb's end-of-career would be around 140, grandpa was making somewhere in upper
mircea_popescu: dude... i dunno. complete (romanian style, 5 course) meal at the "university house", ie, restaurant for high ranking profs etc, ~20 lei. which was the 3rd largest bill, 1% or so of average salary.
phf: given that u.s. entry level engineer is somewhere in the 60k, that's like paying $1200 for a cup of coffee with pastry. and i realize that it's a totally meaningless analogy
phf: oh, that's not restaurants i'm thinking of. i'm thinking places that would have names, and that certain kind of su crowd would reminisce over, like "Prague" or "Astoria"
mircea_popescu: pretty much the only restaurant doing decent aspics in the whole country for a decade + was inside the ro capitol building. meal there less than what happy meal cost.
mircea_popescu: there was also "belvedere", rather scenic up on a hill. available for upper class wedding receptions, otherwise open for... well not the public.
mircea_popescu: actually a major passtime for locals post 1989 was to go check it out, for first time in life.
phf: i don't actually know, but i think i recall some высоцкий records with 30kp markings?
☟︎ phf: well, right, prole stolovaya prices from the same time would be in .10-.50 range for full servings, so it's an outrageous price.
phf: mircea_popescu: you know that is weird, seems like sop was accessible prices even at fancy places, but was discouraged from attending. i might be misremembering something
phf: but there might've been some twist there, like pastry was the kind of pastry you couldn't buy anywhere else because "specially made only here on thursdays"
mircea_popescu: they did have a law re "illicit profits" on the books tho did they
a111: Logged on 2016-05-18 22:57 phf: i don't actually know, but i think i recall some высоцкий records with 30kp markings?
a111: Logged on 2016-05-18 22:44 phf: 300's
phf: i realize more and more that the fall of soviet union was to my great disadvantage.
mircea_popescu: generally the end of national empires is bad news for the locals.
mircea_popescu: of course, houses were ~never sold. they were given. either by inca to plebs, or else by non-plebs to non-plebs by inca dispensation.
mircea_popescu: i think its purpose was to feed some semblance of usable rw data into the research center of w/e it was called
mircea_popescu: ~the research side of the fed. trying to keep the economy from blowing up.
mircea_popescu: about as successful as their homologues over at chernobyl
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: su dean didn't have housing racket, but could he buy plane tickets to paris and rent apt there for summer ? (honest q)
mircea_popescu: if dean was the cosmopolitan type he could do what sane men do : stay at gf's in paris.
phf: on whether he was also connected otherwise. moscow state dean probably could've, some mukhosransk one--not
mircea_popescu: i took "temperament" to stand as proxy of general human quality.
mircea_popescu: i suspect this interpolation is correct only up to a point, and what;s interesting happens long after that inflexion.
mircea_popescu: yet scores of academics ran the "friendly" gamut. socialistoid france particularly.
mircea_popescu: obviously not all these could be spies, for the fucking obvious reason.
mircea_popescu: no, profs with a penchant for getting their penis and gullet well oiled.
mircea_popescu: do west germany twice that, and then there's all the eastern yurp countries.
mod6: soooo i went through the epic headache of setting up sks server on dulap, only to learn that the thing will not work without blessing from existing sks operators. <<< uuuuugh
mircea_popescu: there were dozens of people who lived very much the 90s academic conference circus.