shinohai: btw pete_dushenski cheers for `blacked.com`
pete_dushenski: "specifically the one who though Mark Karpelès did it." << thought.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-20 22:20 pete_dushenski: less important than incentives for creativity, flexibility, and the ability to make incremental adjustments that can transform existing technologies into inventions that are appropriate for prevailing domestic conditions." << basically get the govn't out of the way and que sera sera, the meat will be what it'll be.
mircea_popescu: they have a point. when i cant get a bottle of nitric acid to carelessly spill on table, there's not going to be any inventions.
pete_dushenski: kudos to B. Zorina Khan for the enlightened perspective. hey, maybe (s)he's even a log reader.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-20 22:28 ben_vulpes: looks like you 'just want to' server stats from here.
ben_vulpes: the entire point i apparently failed to make.
mircea_popescu: alternatively, phpmyadmin is also just a script you can get standalone. tho in generall it's a case of "people haven't actually ever tried to cli mysql because nobody ever told them they could"
☟︎ ben_vulpes: and put that motherfuckin browser down, kid
mircea_popescu still recalls the utter "holy shit" face of chick when shown this magic
mircea_popescu: "of fucking course you can paste sql results into grep. it's called a pipe. and alternatively... you could just write your sql correctly"
ben_vulpes: tooootally tangentially and not at all related to anything else, would there be any reason to store merkleroots, block/txn hashes as integers vs byte arrays?
ben_vulpes: well the mr is a hash of hashes, no? doesn't have much structure to it.
ben_vulpes: my question is about data in the blockchain. eg merkle roots, block/txn hashes.
ben_vulpes: anyways, very interested on notions about tradeoffs of byte arrays vs. massive integers
ben_vulpes: that's not nearly southern women as it is "women who live in suburbia in the south of usgistan"
phf: ben_vulpes: if you're talking lisp, there's no reason not to store those values as numbers
phf: ben_vulpes: in fact reading a hash becomes (parse-integer ... :base 16)
a111: Logged on 2016-07-20 22:40 ben_vulpes: 35 minute ride in and out
hanbot: mircea_popescu everyone in ben_vulpes 'land smokes pot. you do know how potsmokers drive, do you?
phf: ben_vulpes: well, binary types are unrelated to the issue though. binary types you declare your struct, you still want to decide yourself what goes in the struct. treating hashes as numbers makes sense if you're going full lisp, i.e. you're actually going to do math with those numbers (which is at the end of the day their whole purpose), unless it's not actually a hash but a bit mask or a xor'd something or other
mircea_popescu: phf his question is not really formulated. "best" what, "least likely to be fucked up by the c compiler" ?
ben_vulpes: ftr i do an average 24.6 km/h for thirty five minutes.
ben_vulpes: get out of here with your sticks and magic numbers
ben_vulpes: that stroll we took in ba never cracked ten
hanbot: by getting her some combat bootz.
mircea_popescu: hanbot nah, human female is built to not be fast enough.
ben_vulpes: can't be sent out for infrastructure on a bike
ben_vulpes: nobody can be sent out for infrastructure on a bike.
ben_vulpes: phf: i'd like to stick these values into postgres, not hold them in memory in a lisp process.
ben_vulpes: hence the question of 'integer vs. byte array'
mircea_popescu: hanbot it's an anthopological fact. if woman could outran man the species would not be here.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: 'could' doesn't explain why whole cities stood still on the plain for slaughter and rape by the mongols
mircea_popescu: you can always tell an anthropologist by that womenz and bikers are in a confederacy against him!
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: will have to send me a bottle of whatever he's enjoying tonight
mircea_popescu: ahahahaha ahahaha omfg that "o noes snow" vid is priceless
pete_dushenski: "redneck bikes!" << rich rednecks too. og 'fat bikes' were >$5k until the last year or two when clunkier steel $2k models starting hitting stores.
pete_dushenski: which i guess basically describes albertans in a nutshell : a buncha rich rednecks
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: semi-relatedly, the delicas are migrating south
pete_dushenski: "culture ? what culture ? imma wear my cowboy boots to the opera goshdarnit!"
gribble: Error: We broke The Google!
ben_vulpes: anyways, client has arrived for dinner
gribble: Error: We broke The Google!
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: aha! we've had those for a coon's age. 15yo import laws baby. suck it.
deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 0 by 0 connections.
phf: ben_vulpes: well, fwiw that question doesn't quite make sense from postgresql perspective either :) since your actual choice is to store decoded byte array in a BYTEA, decoded number in NUMERIC or original hash in CHAR. integer won't fit an entire hash, since it's 4 bytes.
phf: ben_vulpes: but i'm just being pedantic
phf: well, now kat.cr is down too..
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-07-20 14:28 asciilifeform: the only proggy i've ever encountered which did.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 01:33 phf: well, now kat.cr is down too..
pete_dushenski: sorry, not resignation letter, just statement about resignation letter.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: the mastermind behind 14 seasons of 'the apprentice' always provideth the lulz
Joshua-I: Pretty much the same intensity it has been this whole time
Joshua-I: Well it's all going down in November
Joshua-I: Maybe someone will shoot him in the face
Joshua-I: What news outlets do you folks read anyhow
ben_vulpes: unrelatedly hoooooly shit the retardation on display in #django
ben_vulpes: "where are the docs installed with ancient djangos in virtualenvs?"
ben_vulpes: "documentation. you know. as what readthedocs is generated from."
ben_vulpes: "yes. eric holscher in his infinite wisdom removed documentation for 1.3.5"
ben_vulpes: "why the everloving fuck would i install 500 mb of webkit for shit that should have been packaged with the source?"
ben_vulpes: phf: i know, i meant 'integer' in the abstract, with numeric as the concrete implementation that i'd use.
ben_vulpes: CHAR[] didn't make much sense to me, because a hash isn't instrinsically a set of characters, except insofar as a byte array can be seen as a set of characters, but which characters...
ben_vulpes: but it lends the benefit of "oh, derps asked about 1b1tc01n34t3r"
ben_vulpes: without having to cast said to a NUMERIC
ben_vulpes: galls me on some level to think about a hash, which i concieve of as an integer, as a byte array or a set of chars.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes a prime example of why "helpers" aren't helpful
mircea_popescu: and ftr, the c notion of "char" is exactly equal to the notion of byte. the thing uses words and chars.
mircea_popescu: i guess they call the words "int" and the bytes "char"
ben_vulpes is stupidly proud to actually understand this now
phf: ben_vulpes: you might benefit from sticking byte array into CHAR[] unless i'm misremembering psql constraints on what kind of chars can go there. because bytea is going to have a 4 byte overhead, numeric an 8 byte overhead
ben_vulpes: my worry is precisely those constraints. "only ascii chars? utf-8 monstrosities?"
phf: also bytea is a varchar, afair you can't put a size constraint on it, so scanning over a column of varchars has some kind of overhead
phf: err, similar to varchar, not literally a varchar
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes you understand that there's no difference between an "utf-8 character" and a number of ascii characters yes
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 00:46 ben_vulpes: psql will even shit csvs
ben_vulpes: you were bitching about csvs! how'm i to know what you do and do not know.
phf: same way you're supposed to know he has more than one machine
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 00:45 mircea_popescu: alternatively, phpmyadmin is also just a script you can get standalone. tho in generall it's a case of "people haven't actually ever tried to cli mysql because nobody ever told them they could"
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: did you nuke the 'read only pg user' notion?
mircea_popescu: even the fucktardation of "resizable windows". you know i never used that stupid shit ?
mircea_popescu: if i wanted multiple viewports i'd have bought more screens.
mircea_popescu: so yes, "gui" is for lamerz. there's no point in having a fucking button to click on like im serving mcfucksticks. there's no need to "shade" the "part of the window that shows you how to move it"
ben_vulpes: 1 usefully allocated to emacs, another to term, laptop screen shows kandinksy, rockets, turbines, etc on shuffle.
mircea_popescu: yeah well your warm saltine box that moves around molecule designs in a hologralcd is not yet on sale.
ben_vulpes: and it is heinous apple box, and so there is no unified way to split, shuffle, collapse.
ben_vulpes: i am at the very least lucky that emacs will eat CMD-<anything but tab>
ben_vulpes: but much like growing fond of fine wines, this is a habit best not acquired.
ben_vulpes: sure, but how'd they justify the markup on the shitboxen otherwise
ben_vulpes: you're just going to have to wait for flexible displays, asciilifeform.
ben_vulpes: are you not talking about a tall, instead of wide display?
ben_vulpes: which, if you'll let me finish omfg!, would suck in myriad other ways i can't wait to hear you bitch about
ben_vulpes: anyways, laptop is not a workstation, we've done this thread.
ben_vulpes: because how are you going to cram a tall display into the portable formfactor?
ben_vulpes: i personally want a display that detaches.
ben_vulpes: and all on a 6-axis arm with other 6-axis arms mounted on a ball that follows me around positioning the monitor and kb just perfectly ergonomically.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: naught but the economic pressures that drive laptop producers to make their wares with the fewest number of atoms possible to satisfy the cowsies.
ben_vulpes: because shitboxen and not workstations!
ben_vulpes: lithium ion laptop battery! eight hours of battery life, predicated on your only draining it twice!
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 03:12 pete_dushenski:
https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/MeredithStatement.pdf << you can't resign from usg.trump just because you're illiterate and didn't do your job (resignation letter from speechwriterlady who not-so-lightly lifted bits from usg.michelle and gave them to usg.melania)
ben_vulpes: this was i think before you were born.
ben_vulpes: subject of fdr, yarvin is peddling epubs of moldbuggery on the 'kindle store'
ben_vulpes: do not underestimate the laziness of americans.
ben_vulpes: i have one of the v2s, iirc. fits in back pocket of ~all jeans.
ben_vulpes: i have *sat* on the thing to *zero* effect.
ben_vulpes: this was back when i considered it disposable and not a treasure, mind you.
ben_vulpes: i did not begin to collect those until quite recently.
thestringpuller: they are willing to ride or die. that's actually kind of refreshing
Framedragger: shinohai: re qntra on KAT, wasn't it authorities in poland, not ukraine?
Framedragger: "On Wednesday, law enforcement in Poland arrested the alleged owner of the site, 30 year-old Artem Vaulin of Ukraine."
shinohai: Yes I meant to start the sentence with "Polish" to clarify that.
Framedragger: (so just to be clear it's not ukrainian prosecutors)
shinohai: yes i need tohave BingoBoingo change that if he will thanx
shinohai: But he will end up in US, in usascwitz prison
Framedragger: agree, no real diff, `postsoviet block -> usa` streamlined process yay
thestringpuller: So the kickass torrent raid was partially made possible by Coinbase?
phf: "The key piece of evidence that led authorities to Vaulin appeared to come when Apple handed over his personal details after investigators matched an IP address used to log in to the KAT Facebook page with one linked to an iTunes purchase."
phf: well, more specifically "Records provided by Apple showed that tirm@me.com conducted an iTunes transaction using IP Address 109.86.226.203 on or about July 31, 2015. The same IP Address was used on the same day to login into the KAT Facebook."
phf: you understimate the amount of fun those little devices provide :> ukranian guy in poland raking estimated 16 mil in ad revenue, i'm sure he had bitches and bling, rather than you know live in a safe bunker and infosec all day
mircea_popescu: you know, from my personal experience this "estimated" is exactly like "silk road did an estimated billion dollar drug trade".
mircea_popescu: i have personally chased the "Estimated ad revenue" of such people, for years. it never came through.
mircea_popescu: this is no actual proof, of course, "somewhere in the sky there may be". but from 100s of actually checked cases, every one turned to be an outright lie.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile irl, silk road can't dispose of a kg of coke for 3 weeks over xmas ; and the "ad revenue guy" can't pay for his coffee.
phf: or to quote The Guard "street value. you boys always go on about street value. i don't know which street you buying your coke at, because it's not the same street i'm buying my coke at"
mircea_popescu: there's actually a lot of valuable data re eeuropean "advertising market" there as a result of me running a large intel project on the topic at the time.
mircea_popescu: but no need to reference my materia obscura. take gigaom. on the basis of "internet knowledge" would you have said he certainly makes "more from ads than ukr polish guy" ? yes. did he ? no. turns out he made less from advertising than freelaqncer makes from fixing python code.
mircea_popescu: take gawker. really, "billion pageviews a year" ? where is it ?
mircea_popescu: qntra made more than gawker at any point of their respective existence.
phf: we had a thread about advertisement i think copule of times
phf: irs claims that he was selling direct, so i don't know how that translates into money at all, it's probably all fixed bid. if he was doing google now and they didn't immediately kick him off the network, etc. he'd probably be pulling more than 5k but of course not "16mil", which is not enough to pay entire gawker staff, but enough to cover his server costs, etc.
mircea_popescu: "clicked traffic" as the thing is called in the [porn] biz being about 500k to the bitcoin last i looked, sometime last year. meaning the entire yearly value of the global "online advertising" market is equivalent to a few bitcoin blocks, meaning in turn that a choice to occupy yourself with that thing is equivalent to a deliberate choice not to matter. nttawwt.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-21#1507789 << possibly because you never design computer in whole life. you look at fine desktop, think it need crazy shit stick on all sides of unit. you have disease of american capitalist, change thing that is fine for no reason except to look different from comrade. you put cheap rubber of chinese slave factory in keyboard, you put bad crt of mexican drug empire on other side, you put propel
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 05:17 ben_vulpes: and all on a 6-axis arm with other 6-axis arms mounted on a ball that follows me around positioning the monitor and kb just perfectly ergonomically.
mircea_popescu: "in america is type from arsenal of name arsenal. is funny name to me. is like american cheese of name american cheese." ahh this guy is fucking epic.
☟︎ phf: oh i didn't realize there was a whole series of these
mircea_popescu: btw asciilifeform : above, I TYPED!!11, by hand, the whole fucking lengthy thing.
mircea_popescu: i did this gladly, and i consider myself well gained from the exercise.
mircea_popescu: there's worse things i could be doing with my time than handcopying teh masters.
phf: asciilifeform: there seems to be a significant lack of modifier keys
☟︎ phf: the extra row of function keys looks nice though
mircea_popescu: i will confess i almost never use the fs and rarely if at all the modifiers.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 15:16 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-21#1507789 << possibly because you never design computer in whole life. you look at fine desktop, think it need crazy shit stick on all sides of unit. you have disease of american capitalist, change thing that is fine for no reason except to look different from comrade. you put cheap rubber of chinese slave factory in keyboard, you put bad crt of mexican drug empire on other si
phf: that is probably why your hands are still on excellent shape :>
mircea_popescu: phf most people who spent as much as i have with computers a) wear glasses b) have various complicated nerve and tendon damage, esp wrist, elbow etc.
☟︎ phf: you also rely on very deliberate, minimal tooling. i could for example use nano to write short python scripts, but i need intellij to wrestle with large codebases, and "professional" programmer tools have notoriously bad ergonomics. emacs is notorious for giving its users rsi, etc. but i agree, it can all be remedied with literacy
phf: i think naggum had a quote about it
phf: " Emacs actually comes with a builting Emacs Aptitude Test. Do you remap
☟︎ phf: your keyboard or the Emacs keybindings before the chords and sequences it
phf: comes with by default have wreaked havoc with your hands? If you do not
phf: do anything to make Emacs more convenient for yourself, you may not have
phf: the prerequisite aptitude to use it productive.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 05:21 asciilifeform: srsly when 'speechwriter' became a thing, it was already high time to say 'enough'
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 15:52 phf: " Emacs actually comes with a builting Emacs Aptitude Test. Do you remap
mircea_popescu: but in fairness, i would say i rely on a very specific sort of literacy. i have people do things for me! you lot, all of you, are the modern equivalent of a barony that is neverthelss being run by the ox-baron personally, by hand. because in the future we have this strange species of ox-man that "can". of sorts, really, only 80% of the can, but hey, who cares about broken fingers and other appednages as a result. HEAR THE OXM
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 15:34 phf: asciilifeform: there seems to be a significant lack of modifier keys
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but not because you don't know. you're intelligent enough to know, and by rights should know. it's just that the stupid overrider in your brain overrides the brain. it's like so : "we need the speechwriters and ghostwriters to translate our symbols into the plaintext of they without proper huffman tables"
mircea_popescu: which means a thing, specific and apparently unknown today.
mircea_popescu: and they also became literate through a means, also specific and also apparently "unknown" today, in the "nfi" sense of "unknown" above.
mircea_popescu: that method is "write the fucking thing out", aka "paint the snow"
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 15:37 mircea_popescu: phf most people who spent as much as i have with computers a) wear glasses b) have various complicated nerve and tendon damage, esp wrist, elbow etc.
mircea_popescu: yes, you do. you and me both, we've been pumping out 50k+ lines a year for years now right here.
mircea_popescu: that's more than a writer writes, were it the good sort that actually does write.
mircea_popescu: aha. because you're copying me rather than copying the idiots with their "programmer's claw" in doing it. if you wrote 50k lines of code a year you'd have it too.
mircea_popescu: "meta-alt-fuckyourmother" ? really ? i am not pushing that!
mircea_popescu: sure, and every other palleative conceivable, outside of the correct "if it doesn't fit in 27 it needn't be said."
phf: yeah, i see you replaced ctrl and alt keys from elsewhere (and a bunch of others obviously)
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 15:29 mircea_popescu: "in america is type from arsenal of name arsenal. is funny name to me. is like american cheese of name american cheese." ahh this guy is fucking epic.
mats: i don't see how this could be workable either
mats: i dun understand how this'd prevent exfil when the user eventually turns on the radio to use it
mats: am i missing something or what
mircea_popescu: "AK-47: Crude and inaccurate bullet thrower designed by and for illiterate peasants. Chambered in a caliber that manages to cut the ballistics of a proper .30-caliber battle rifle in half without passing on any weight savings to the grunt. Ergonomics only suitable for Russian midgets. Archaic cable trigger spring, crummy sights, no sight radius to speak of, no bolt hold-open device, and a clumsy safety. Favorite infantry
mircea_popescu: rifle of Middle Eastern goat herders, guys named Abdullah, and backwoods militia types who like the fact that it shoots cheap ammo and has ballistics like their familiar .30-30." <<< amusingly, these are actually quite good points.
mircea_popescu: some point between now and whenever decided not to join tmsr ?
ben_vulpes: "current tastes and preferences of reporters"
ben_vulpes: bitch you will buy a three hundred dollar ancient craptop from the bazaar and learn2gpg
mircea_popescu: first, i will crack all your fingers in the piano. THEN you MAY be allowed to buy ancient laptop and learn to gpg, MAYBE.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 17:30 ben_vulpes: dude when did bunnie go full retard
mircea_popescu: there is NOTHING WRONG with tool killing SOME OF the lusers. wrong is when the tool hurts the lusers it didn't kill.
ben_vulpes: "but i can't let go of the ipnohe, it's got my email and facebookz!"
mircea_popescu: "your job is called being a whore, forget the journacrap"
ben_vulpes: are you seriously going to drag a player piano out the airplane when jumping behind enemy lines
mircea_popescu: well part of derp's problem is that to her stupid head there exists no enemies
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a lot of the guy's complaints are in the direction of "this is too heavy too hard too etc" reminiscent of "beautiful one tries to go to war"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: amusingly i've yet to meet someone who could use sights correctly.
mircea_popescu: (no, it's not that you can do it ONCE, after prepping for 10 minutes. it is that you do it every time in .6 seconds. that's correctly. it'\s a fucking rifle.)
mircea_popescu: they even make 2.5x scopes. "soo... what's this do ?" "IT SCOPES!!!1"
mircea_popescu: "my rifle doesn't work in the fog" "oh you're one of those, are you"
mircea_popescu: anyway, go watch people use their sighted item, score them for corectness, be amazed.
mircea_popescu: fucking training sargents don't pass. then people wonder why it takes 3mn rounds/kill. 99% it's not the fucking hardware
a111: Logged on 2016-01-21 13:29 asciilifeform: 'if i make it what i think is the right size, it crashes!111'
mircea_popescu: why the fuck not, let's redefine a cultural notion of fairness unbased on reality.
mircea_popescu: no, i'm not. but if you fire the round you've fired the round.
mircea_popescu: there's no "i fired it but it dun count because isis and shiva"
mircea_popescu: worst fucking habit of grunts, that even half-competent trainer is permanently at war with, is "fire when out of ideas".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's suppressive fire directed at pinning down the enemy ; and then there's suppressive fire directed at silencing that little voice in own head going "you're such a fucking idiot..."
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 17:32 mircea_popescu: first, i will crack all your fingers in the piano. THEN you MAY be allowed to buy ancient laptop and learn to gpg, MAYBE.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 17:36 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a lot of the guy's complaints are in the direction of "this is too heavy too hard too etc" reminiscent of "beautiful one tries to go to war"
mats: what is hard about zeroing a scope?!
mats: scope is great for close quarters combat you know
mats: dun need to put your chin to align dot to chest
mats: there are different kinds of scope
mats: I forget if it's the acog or eotech
mats: there is more than one rifle ready position
mats: I was trained to use low ready when breaching, it's close enough to align dot against enemy two meters away
mats: I got an acog and it was garbage
mats: unit dependent, if they're with a unit that has resources they usually go for eotechs afaik
mats: nah it has nsn, supply sgt orders them
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i would expect "mommentum allignment". ie, engineer the parts so that sudden acceleration moves them all equally.
mircea_popescu: much like temperature range mechanical resistance is obtained through "thermic allignment" ie, put items that dilate/contract same together.
mircea_popescu: no but seriously, i expect polished leaded glass encased in composite material of same density.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for all the jacking off and cumbiscuit eating, that thing is just a stupid "oh, jtags, can you make a windows program that keeps flashing them ???"
mircea_popescu: yes. deliberately. this is as much an "exploit" as stealing electricity from the pole is "fighting the man".
mircea_popescu: pretty fucking distant from the "magical computing owning rays" the meta-nsa afficionados keep pretending.
mircea_popescu: basically, the "remove symbols table" tech hasn't reached hardware.
ben_vulpes: moreover there is quality binning to be done.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you USED TO go broke. in you know, 1976.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform don't make me package your 100 years from now separately.
mircea_popescu: wouldja stop clinking to the supid idea ? antifuse my arse.
mircea_popescu: if that's when you listen, the fact that you listen or don't listen no longer matters.
mircea_popescu: prototyping dongles don't belong in production item. full fucking stop and enough of the "oh but mah convenience" talk.
mircea_popescu: if you have 100 components, you end up having to throw out so many motherboards of this fascinating imaginary type taking 100 chips that you increase price by 10%
mircea_popescu: this isn't the fucking 70s to have single-nine chip process.
mircea_popescu is smoking the "fuck you, you have no rights, engineer is not a person" blend, of the same exact make as seen in debate over "oh but proper V hurts mah self-importance of codrwriter"
mircea_popescu: sure. but while that is a practical problem, this is a mental bug.
mircea_popescu: "oh, it is ok to leave tags on the clothes". no, it's not. fuck you.
mircea_popescu: you've seen the calculation of actual constraints above.
mircea_popescu: if your chip process doesn't yield three nines you get the choice of jumping 10k feet in the air or being shit.
mircea_popescu: this is an unavoidable next stop on the rail that begins with "not worth repairing"
mircea_popescu: funny thing is - they didn't even have the sense to USE TWO BINS
jurov: they auction it in bitcoins???
shinohai: would be nice if not partitioned
phf: would be nice if there was anything good about that sale
☟︎ phf: mircea_popescu: do you have a link handy to your mirrors of disappeared tlp articles?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 20:20 phf: would be nice if there was anything good about that sale
phf: maybe if dpr came through with the church papers
mircea_popescu: phf um, iirc i only kept one, the one with the minimum income thing. you want that ?
mircea_popescu: they can't of their own power say "we learned this was a stupid idea and will not be pursuing it any further." it's there, they must keep pouring money in the sand.
mircea_popescu: the only thing that nobody could have predicted being the obvious future.
phf: asciilifeform: you happen to have a djvu archive of теxника-молодежи?
☟︎ phf: last moment preparations before leaving to my home planet
mircea_popescu: "This is how I know that anyone who says, "If only I could live in Mad Men time where you could pinch a girl's ass and not get in trouble for it" is going to be way disappointed if a TARDIS shows up, because they wouldn't pinch them back then, either, not because they are afraid of trouble but because they are afraid of girls. Exhibit A: you know what a TARDIS is." << guy rocks lol
ben_vulpes: you're not suing the government, moron, you're suing usg.disney
ben_vulpes: "please to the pretty please to do what i want instead of what your masters demand? puweaze?"
ben_vulpes: part and parcel of financial license in the states.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 20:47 phf: asciilifeform: you happen to have a djvu archive of теxника-молодежи?
phf: asciilifeform: kat didn't sell warez
phf: kat was an honest successor to thepiratebay
phf: guy was a one man torrent operation provided oldfags and lusers alike with quality prods, it seems entirely petty to focus on his ad revenue, and ties squarely into usg narrative of "he made millions!!!"
phf: in fact kat was only place that, if you visited without adblock, would tell you to use one
phf: his fate is not astonishing, but only because man chose to throw himself on bayonet
danielpbarron: comment on porn site superimposed over stock nature photography
danielpbarron: i'd also like to know, but if i had to guess, it looks like a cave that is located under a body of water that is draining into it from above, as seen from within the cave
a111: Logged on 2016-07-17 18:00 asciilifeform: or why he collects megabux of donation simply to give to lawyers;
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 21:17 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-21#1508246 << lulzy: 'The deadlock between competing corners of the Bitcoin community when it comes to hard forking, in contrast, spells doom for the currency, according to Tual. “As long as that’s true, Bitcoin will never evolve, and it will die, because what doesn't evolve dies.”' << 'we've failed to stick in the proboscis and so let's declare it dead, neverhappened'
mircea_popescu: what does idiot do, next month after blowing up own penis ?
mircea_popescu: the presumption everyone's illiterate in the anglosphere is so fucking strong...
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 21:24 asciilifeform: ftr i have 0 sympathy for folks who ~sell~ warez. i dun care if they are eaten by usg, or by crocodiles, or martians.
mircea_popescu: it is a crime to allow stupid people keep their money.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 21:32 asciilifeform: 'nobody could have predicted'
mircea_popescu: if hitler built schools in ukraina, they were still fascist schools ; torn down.
phf: asciilifeform was hating even before knew the details, so perhaps it's useless to look for reasons
mircea_popescu: i dun personally give much of a shit, for exactly the "Wasn't in wot, isn't a person, can't be buried" reason.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform exactly same place it gets them now. folks more than ready to believe, wish to believe, that "poloniex" exists, is trading etc,
mircea_popescu: anyway, whatever, suing the government. what's the problem, let them have fun.
mircea_popescu: ftr, i'm going to negrate anyone giving interviews to this "jordan pearson" shithead.
mircea_popescu: though honestly, the whole "vice empire" is very much the same sort of redundant object.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: not to motherboard though?
ben_vulpes: i have a hateful noise machine upon which i intend to install gigablast eventually.
ben_vulpes: there are other irons to hammer in the meantime, thouhg.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the problem with shit in trilema is that people go "lalala nobody cares" and then five years later they're begging for a reprise. kinda too lazy to go digging for the various comments of smartasses of the sort.
mircea_popescu: jus' saying, i take such a dim view of branding i'm not even willing to consider projects ; merely the people doing them.
mircea_popescu: not like archive.is doesn't present you with downloadable copy, preprocessed, if you're too lazy to make own html deturdifier.
mircea_popescu: did your objection change from "this free service doing a very good job won't last forever" to "my abilities to make copies it also provides won't last after it goes away" ?
mircea_popescu: when it "goes away" you will still have all the copies you made.
mircea_popescu: and IF it goes away, and that happens BEFORE www goes away, which is the fucking plan in the first place ; THEN maybe we worry about this, neh ?
mircea_popescu: we don't have a survival plan for www in the first place!
mircea_popescu: this being a large part of why i'm not impressed with, eg, schwartz ; or naggum ; etc.
mircea_popescu: if your thing dies, this says you're not worth my time.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, keep a blog, keep it well backed up, so that if phf asks, you can link him
mircea_popescu: there is no way out of this. inept, infantile bitching about how "php is too hard for me" and "archive.is might not survive" etc is just so much wasted breath.
mircea_popescu: there pointedly isn't some "god of the rolls" that this is to be offloaded to. if you can't be arsed to save the .zip files after someone did all the fucking hard work you don't even know how to do nor can motivate self to even attempt in the first place, there's exactly no value you have to save.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 21:58 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: not only this, but, the fella who runs archive.is is... not in my wot
mircea_popescu: i suppose one thing we could do is change how a111 works so that on every outbout link posted here it a) makes an archive.is copy of thje page ; b) downloads the corresponding zip
☟︎ mircea_popescu: e162a9f7cef30be7d517a6a0103863ddedeea0597f11134e7952bbb28462ece45b570926d9cc42a1088bea8dd3a0e4eeb741a72a9c831799b06bd3a9041496cd /home/mircea/Downloads/ia3zY.zip
mats: the suspense builds
trinque: sign a hex dump and deedbot!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the zip you download, is it 32748 long ? if shorter, maybe incomplete transfer ?
phf: fwiw i'm getting a different shasum 512 from either of you
mircea_popescu: i get different hashes every time also ; but they're all legit zip archives.
mircea_popescu: i was able to reproduce teh "weird binary with html tags" by running cli zip 3.0
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i unzipped the result of curling the url.
mircea_popescu: basically looks like some versions of zip fuck up the directory structure, extract it as a flat file.
mircea_popescu: well, fortunate that this oddity should pick the reverser among us to bless.
mircea_popescu: anyway - from what i see old cli zip does take the (correct sized, 32kb) file and spit it out as a single file of binary crap, instead of as a directory of 3 files of which one a html and two jpgs
mircea_popescu: ftr, i get different hashes for the dlded zip file, but identical contents for the extracted index.html (ie, diff reports no diff.)
phf: instead of investigating this mysterious zip, i spent time reading jordan pearson's twitter. he's special, he's like the worst parody of a 2016 American Nerd
☟︎ phf: "why do white people charge so much for sandwiches"
ben_vulpes: tinder, by the way, makes a hilarious appearance in the first 2 episodes of letterkenny
ben_vulpes: which features a character mircea_popescu may find amusing, the slut with an entire rural town wrapped around her finger
☟︎ ben_vulpes: "oh, that's why you appreciate me charlie?"
ben_vulpes: "oh, hey, hi ground. look at you! how are you doing today eh?"
phf: asciilifeform: thanks for the flibusta link
phf: (can be yours for like 10k or so, at 2k right now)