BingoBoingo: Naturally this prognostication ignores the pansuit purging of their pretense at cultural capital with: "Firing up at the end of this month is a maybe. Firing up before the end of 2017 is looking incredibly Likely.
BingoBoingo: "Star Trek" icon George Takei has been accused of sexual assault by a former model and actor stemming from an incident that allegedly occurred in 1981. Scott R. Brunton alleged that when he was 23 years old, Takei took advantage of him after the two had returned from a night out together. Brunton explained that he has been hesitant to come forward about the alleged incident for years, because he felt no one would believe him."
BingoBoingo: Apparently now in addition to "allies" homosexual men have become problematic for pantsuit
trinque has only hearsay knowledge of the subj, but thought old fags going for young dudes was the rule.
BingoBoingo: Kinda the point, pantsuit loses whole demographic
ag3nt_zer0: i have a question I am a bit terrified to ask
ag3nt_zer0: it feels like a no-brainer but ahhh... if I use pete_dushenski's high entropy wallet method, I only need the private key generated by the words right? I dont need to keep the words... seems obviously dumb when I write it but the redditards are throwing me off here
ag3nt_zer0: i think the confusion for me stems from hearing two different descriptions of brain wallets - one described as a way to, if i recall correctly, convert a privkey to a string of words to then be memorized and carried in brain over international borders or what not... and the other encounter I have with this concept is pete's method of generating a high entropy keypair and I am pretty sure I am answering my own question here but wou
ag3nt_zer0: to be clear i was re-reading pete's article and followed the reddit link to the guy who lost the 4BTC and it was this comment that got me all wound up: "The passphrase has to be random (and necessarily, difficult to memorize). There is no way around this, period. If the prospect of memorizing 12 random words is daunting to you (and it should be - if you forget it, your money is gone), then don't use a brain wallet."
ag3nt_zer0: but it looks is this guy is speaking of not being able to access the privkey because said example forgot the words reveal that key, and neither did the person write down the privkey?
a111: Logged on 2015-06-10 17:13 ascii_field: incidentally, most people are already using the worst aspects of brainwallet -and- conventional crypto
ag3nt_zer0: i followed petes method except for the printing. i instead hand wrote the pub and priv... and i possess those
ag3nt_zer0: with the dictionary and the dice and 13 words and all that
ag3nt_zer0: i assumed until today that words were utilized to create a keypair
ag3nt_zer0: so once i had the keypair i assumed the words unecessary
ag3nt_zer0: but they are called a "passphrase" here and there
ag3nt_zer0: so asciilifeform, if I have stored safely the private key, do i need the words to unlock that or something? or was it ok to discard the words?
ag3nt_zer0: asciilifeform: yes understood... and thanks for your time here!
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 6134.65, vol: 26871.16333225 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 6206.9, vol: 134430.16372189 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 5641.3, vol: 11995.3985526 | Volume-weighted last average: 6156.54683296
a111: Logged on 2017-11-11 16:05 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-11#1736227 << this kind of picture is really from 'cyberpunk' alt-fyootoor where where is 1e10 people but they all somehow have money and need goodies delivered on rail
a111: Logged on 2017-11-11 16:11 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-11#1736245 << not only persia, but more or less everyone who did not ride the mcshitburger train to hell, winning in direct proportion to how much they refrained from riding it.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-11 16:43 asciilifeform: ( and will perhaps be a good entry for those hypothetical folx who ain't here yet, but ought to be . i have no intention of doing the whole thing myself, esp. not in near term, my hands are quite full )
mircea_popescu: so far it's barely a dozen people, and easily a grosse jobs. not the other fucking way around.
mircea_popescu: principal limitative factor for tmsr gdp growth is... a lack of humans.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-11 18:52 asciilifeform does not currently have even 1 up-to-top trb node !
a111: Logged on 2017-11-11 20:19 mod6: gotta start somewhere
a111: Logged on 2017-11-11 18:48 BingoBoingo wondering what the weird might be with block 494023
davout: meanwhile, buttcash has been pumping insanely during the last 24h hours
davout: my money's on the other side
davout: they apparently have a hardfork scheduled for tomorrow, with the goal of 'fixing' their diff adjustment algorithm, i'm quite curious to see what happens
deedbot: wer voiced for 30 minutes.
wer: i gotta upload it to a link right
mircea_popescu: alternatively can base64 it and put it in p.bvulpes.com i guess
wer: oh didn't know face was compulsory
mircea_popescu: well otherwise no way to enforce the "once per person"
wer: i'll go take it again
deedbot: wer voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: so it is. do you want your bitcents to an address or are you making a deedbot wallet ?
a111: Logged on 2017-10-13 01:54 mircea_popescu: trinque don't sweat it, she'll do it when i tell her to, what. tomorrow, monday, whatever.
wer: -> 1GrvBXDT2XTnQ83yCsTZmqVtnZto223DkB
wer: anything i have to do to process it?
wer: someone on reddit sent it to me months ago
wer: brought it up in a conversation with a friend
wer: schooling, learning programming
mircea_popescu: the republic is looking for an office girl in mailand china, if you know anyone.
☟︎ deedbot: webbyz voiced for 30 minutes.
deedbot: wer voiced for 30 minutes.
trinque admits he forgot about the tits initiative.
wer: anything else i could do for bitcoin
mircea_popescu: what's learning programming entail ? lisp ? java ? haskell ? php ?
mircea_popescu: wer so first off, register your pgp key with deedbot to preserve identity. you do have one yes ?
mircea_popescu: and second off, do the foxybot trade module. let me fish out the spec
mircea_popescu: trinque it is said, as one could observe, that the entire grandiose complexity of nature was entirely built out of... crosspolination!
trinque: fact. today's a bot haxing day anyway. other item in the queue is subcriptions
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes maybe it just needs a manager to restart it periodically if its down :D
trinque: i.e. shinohai registers his irc bouncer service as a subscription on deedbot, folks can subscribe and automatically pay him per interval
mircea_popescu: trinque next you can introduce underdraw fees, be 100% like a cc comp!
trinque: crash looping, also natural!
mircea_popescu: "sorry sir, your 4 cent subscription to Fishing Today is causing your account with us go into the red every month, at a cost of 70 dollars each."
trinque: I figured I'd just ping shinohai to turn the person's shit off until new deposit
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: bot thinks its up, nothing shows in logs, uses precisely same stack i have running elsewhere
ben_vulpes: possible, but candi's the only node so affected
mircea_popescu: in other news, just added the 40th trilema header. i suspect trilema is now the site with the greatest header biodiversity in the history of the internets.
deedbot: candi_lustt voiced for 30 minutes.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: ((39/40) ** 365) = 9.698056947029741E-5
mircea_popescu: 0.1% chances to miss one if person visits daily for a year. not so terribru.
deedbot: rog voiced for 30 minutes.
rog: i was reading thru and found this channel, care to explain a little more about it please?
mircea_popescu: well, reading through what ? #trilema is the forum of the most serene republic, a terrorist organisation dedicated to the dissolution of all fiat sovereigns and the permanent barring of such nonsense in the future.
☟︎☟︎☟︎ deedbot: wer voiced for 30 minutes.
wer: i don't think i do no
rog: yes read it in trilema, i was browsing thru sites doing some research
mircea_popescu: wer not such a great situation ; but... kleopatra will make you one, such as it is.
rog: yes no pgp used the web solution
mircea_popescu: it's important to have a rsa key as it's the standard of identity these days.
mircea_popescu: sorta like it was important to have a passport in 1917.
rog: how do i connect thru windows then with a pgp?
mircea_popescu: rog i was talking to her ; connecting is a different matter, you need an irc client. such as possibly mirc ? xchat ? i'm not sure what else is on windows.
wer: what do i do after downloading the software
deedbot: candi_lustt voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: ^ that is my key. and because ~everyone knows it, that same ~everyone can tell whether it's me talking or some impostor.
mircea_popescu: i find it always pays to come up with counterintuitive syntax!
candi_lustt: mircea_popescu: 539433869154135747306270525845277238187683254801/1152921504606846976000000000000000000000000000000
rog: how do i connect to this chatroom from mirc?
mircea_popescu: rog freenode (irc.freenode.net) port port 8001 then join channel #trilema
mircea_popescu: may also want to register that name, seeing how it's a short and suprirsingly not already taken nick.
wer: i've got the pgp keys
mircea_popescu: wer put the pubkey in p.bvulpes.com then say !!register <url> to deedbot.
rog: how do i register it?
deedbot: CB79C616915A4F8AEA51B5D0525A5ED497C8B05D registered as wer.
mircea_popescu: wer now take good care of it, if you manage to lose it nobody will believe "i am really wer". well, except in your case we know what you look like, so there's that, but in general speaking...
wer: so what do i do with the string
wer: was that supposed to do something
wer: !!v CB79C616915A4F8AEA51B5D0525A5ED497C8B05D
mircea_popescu: !!v 4C3607C06CF5569C420384C36F7A07C2F0BFCD0C28B123CB25093BC742195CB8
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated wer 1 << azn hottie / c# student
mircea_popescu: wer you can now self-voice, so i don't have to up you every half hour. say !!up to deedbot (in private message). it will give you something to decrypt. you decrypt it, then say !!v <string> and you're voiced.
mircea_popescu: and otherwise, whenever someone needs your key they can just ask it.
deedbot: rog_ voiced for 30 minutes.
deedbot: rog voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: there's a bunch of reputation management commands, deedbot being the wot registrar of record.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-12 17:16 mircea_popescu: !!reputation candi_lustt
mircea_popescu: holy hell how do they manage to find all these 2 and 3 letter nicks that aren't reg'd/enforced ?!
deedbot: candi_lustt is not registered in WoT.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: spyked was last seen in #trilema 4 weeks, 6 days, 2 hours, 1 minute, and 53 seconds ago: <spyked> yeh, this was re. scabs
lobbes: speaking of javaturds, my current status on my archive-o-tron: turns out archive.is uses 'cloudflare ddos' protection for their .zip download links. Currently trying to hack my way around that
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 22:13 asciilifeform: i get a 128k binary turd.
lobbes: nice.. I'm halfway considering if it'd be actually worth it to just try and make my own archiver at this point
lobbes: interesting. I may do some log-spelunking later on that
mircea_popescu: lobbes dun think you're not still supposed to make teh market bot btw. i'm... building redundancy :)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that can't be the explanation, seeing how everyone's zip unpacked it but yours ?
☟︎ deedbot: rog66 voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: lobbes it may be worth your time to get in touch with the guy and explain what you're trying to do. prolly set you up with something if not turn off shitflare altogether.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ftr, iguana is eaten by teh natives, all through south america. kinda like frog i guess.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the depicted marina also has yacht sales office. 50 btc buys you a rather comfortable set-up for a coupla ppl. 40 foot, can comfortably fit the occasional landlubber sluts and errythang.
☟︎ lobbes: mircea_popescu, that is a good point. Aite, I'll send that guy an email tonight. Worth a shot
mircea_popescu: was rather accomodating when i ended up stealing his js to make trilema give selection urls.
deedbot: mobile46836 voiced for 30 minutes.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-12 18:07 mircea_popescu: anyway, the depicted marina also has yacht sales office. 50 btc buys you a rather comfortable set-up for a coupla ppl. 40 foot, can comfortably fit the occasional landlubber sluts and errythang.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-12 18:02 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that can't be the explanation, seeing how everyone's zip unpacked it but yours ?
a111: Logged on 2017-11-12 18:08 mircea_popescu: what was orlol's riverboat, 20ft ?
pete_dushenski is finally back in the saddle after a whirlwind tour of the four corners of his home "country"
pete_dushenski: but with "railcar" of goodies, surely there's something for everyone
pete_dushenski: did asciilifeform have a list of railcar contents posted on blog yet ? you never know what's worth or not worth shipping...
pete_dushenski: link to list of dead tree cubometres ? musta missed it
pete_dushenski: why do you always guess what other ppl will be interested in ? i really do think you'd be surprised if you stopped with the commentary and just listed everything
☟︎ pete_dushenski: (pic is from mega-spectacular libray in rio de janeiro, highly recommended)
phf: pete_dushenski: that's a common misconception, i suspect asciilifeform's library consists of like 200-300 books, that are heavily annotated, because other books, while really nice to have, is a pain in the ass to manage, so you just cull to the current essentials and somehow source whatever's missing later.
pete_dushenski: phf: i can see that. also, asciilifeform likely has a crate with spinning rust hdd's containing a vault's worth of digital tomes.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Anyways, looking for new boxes for Contravex, etc
trinque: asciilifeform: take a picture of the book spines before selling, for teh uneducated youf
☟︎ BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: You know alf and myself venturing out and making ISPs. If you have wants now would be a good time to submit them and start negotiating.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Gotta good quote in a hospitable venue. This weeks project is rolling the company ball.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: i have very modest blog hosting needs at this point
BingoBoingo considering quad core AMD A8-5545 blade server offering, listing as "Modest Blade"
BingoBoingo: trinque: Rate determination requires figuring out my cost basis.
pete_dushenski: awww bch back down to 0.2 after hitting 0.35 last night. but who has any left ? hmm...
☟︎ mircea_popescu: irl i held ~10k tomes at home + 1.5mn or so held by the univ library for me
☟︎ mircea_popescu: (in theory it's "for everyone", but in practice you're lucky if you get 1 user per mn books. cuz wtf do people want with them.)
trinque: BingoBoingo: got a link to that blade you were talking about?
BingoBoingo: trinque: Blade would be built around BIOSTAR A68N-5545 shoved into "Build a Blade" enclosure linked earler. Some assembly required, but not experimental hardware at the ranch.
trinque: might blade, might rack 1u, depending on what's on offer
trinque will review logs to not duplicate details
BingoBoingo: trinque: Racking 1u will give more freedom to spec box, get ECC RAM
BingoBoingo: Could also do humble blade around PC Engines APU board. Idea is minimal viable machine for lord of aspiring lordling to make home while possessing root login.
trinque: what of shipping own box in?
BingoBoingo: That is doable. Still gotta rent space, heat handling, and access to net
trinque: obviously gotta pay for spot
BingoBoingo: Datacenter is close to beaches, so vacation drop off is also option
lobbes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736751 << I'd be interested in possibly renting some hosting as a VPS type of arrangement. My projects are low-overhead as well, though. currently, I only pay ~$10USD per month for the two VPSes I rent
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-11-12 20:04 BingoBoingo: Modest can be done
BingoBoingo: lobbes: A box for VPS is very probable, that price point is probably not happening. Then again, this will be a week of much math. On the other hand, wouldn't it be nice to have root?
BingoBoingo: Including power distribution 7U of rackspace for 9 machines
BingoBoingo: Having one booked up and in luggage would be helpful to ISP cause.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-12 19:49 pete_dushenski: why do you always guess what other ppl will be interested in ? i really do think you'd be surprised if you stopped with the commentary and just listed everything
a111: Logged on 2017-11-12 19:56 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: orig link is quite nonsensical tho : ru is ~exporter~ not importer of fissiles
a111: Logged on 2017-11-12 19:59 trinque: asciilifeform: take a picture of the book spines before selling, for teh uneducated youf
mircea_popescu: in even other alt-lulz, etc looks set to surpass eth. teh butty-hurty!
mircea_popescu: diana_coman wanna gimme odds on wer making a working foxybot module ?
a111: Logged on 2017-11-12 20:11 pete_dushenski: awww bch back down to 0.2 after hitting 0.35 last night. but who has any left ? hmm...
diana_coman: quite high I'd say; dunno if it's odds or simply wishful thinking on my side though
lobbes: BingoBoingo, I actually do have root on the VPSen I currently wield, but it would be nice to have my stuff on a box owned by someone I trust. Anyways, I'll keep my eyez to the logs as maths unfold
a111: Logged on 2017-11-12 20:28 mircea_popescu: irl i held ~10k tomes at home + 1.5mn or so held by the univ library for me
spyked: hi! sorry for the radio silence. I've been working myself out of various irl swamps lately (still in progress). following in read-only mode though.
☟︎ spyked missed quite a lot while in read-only mode. glad to hear you enjoyed bucharest, asciilifeform. unexpected also. fortunately you didn't see it on weekdays.
spyked: I was firmly convinced your verdict would be "~shithole" (at least mircea_popescu's was some years ago).
spyked: in other news, I've been using most of my spare cycles lisping in ada. should be able to wrap up a blog post sharing a very minimal prototype (sane implem. of repl doing nothing but basic ops) in a few weeks. what I've got now adheres to most of ffa constraints. the current version isn't very clean, but getting there...
☟︎ spyked: yes. hopefully more than that in the long term (item to be manually translated to e.g. fpga implementation)
spyked: I'm also keeping the idea of potentially embedding in other ada projects (e.g. adacoin?) in mind. but so far wrestling the ffa aspects were enough of a challenge. oh, and there's no gc yet, the thing leaks memory like hell. but that's not its biggest problem.
spyked: at least once it goes out of memory it will scream, unlike tinyscheme buffer overflows.
spyked: ^ and if it does, should be easy to plug it in.
spyked: right now the thing does a whole lot of consing (e.g. even when parsing), to avoid using ada run-time. but yeah, not posted, I'm talking about ~non-existing item.
spyked: asciilifeform, I considered doing that, but it's big enough (spread across 3-4 compilation units) that I'll need to wrap in blog post and do some preliminary documentation work
spyked: single routine is probably boring (I expect asciilifeform knows better than me how S-expr parsing works)
spyked: though there's devil hiding in those details
spyked: e.g. ada I/O is not especially suited for this task, because it reads either characters or full lines; and reading characters doesn't eat newlines, so gotta rely on shell buffering for sane interaction.
spyked: on Get(Char), ada (at least gnat) seems to consume everything but linefeeds (even control characters such as EOT)
spyked: asciilifeform, ty! I will study and put to use.
spyked figures out he has a lot of work to do. but this -- after current code receives proper drilling from other interested people.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform u is perfect fit for roboticized mining. very little by-hand mining done anymore anyway, but uranium mining led teh trade
mircea_popescu: re library, time was 2week for general fund, and 1week for some specialized, and 1 day for particular stuff ; going down from there, was stuff you could only have 1hr at a time and waiting list >1month long.
mircea_popescu: all sorts of collections at bbu, incl 1600s printed matter.
mircea_popescu: hey. this situatuion where usg is more transparent than fresh piss is not tenable. either it abolishes itself or fixes it
mircea_popescu: but as things are now it's nothing short of ridiculous.
mats: p transparent after OPM leak...
a111: Logged on 2017-11-12 23:13 asciilifeform: ( if your script runs for long enough that it needs gc -- maybe it oughta instead be an actual proggy ? )
mircea_popescu: simple and sweet and i actually can't see what possible protestations are available.
mats: rebuilding massive intel apparatus after OPM-sized breaks is an unenviable task
mats: what can you even do? fire every remotely interesting guy and bus in tufts/harvard grads?
spyked: mircea_popescu, so far, basic disconnected pieces: lispm cell representation, parser, evaler, implementation of +.
mircea_popescu: mats much better task than trying to "reform" mediocre intel.
spyked: need to connect them together and publish
mircea_popescu: mats there's no such thing as "fire" in this line. you, literally, shoot them. all.
spyked: (and by publish I mean "item that is in sore need of a review")
mats: mircea_popescu: not in america they don't.
mircea_popescu: problem solved. /me submits his bill and goes back to yachting.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform on and off. i nearly got sun poisoning coupla days ago!
mircea_popescu: the weather is so fucking perfect and the sun so pleasant you just dun realise it. slowroast, no burn but TOO MUCH D VITAMIN OMG
mats speculates next five-year plan includes thiel-ization of intel apparatus - booz allens and stratfors
mircea_popescu: there's this condition, entirely metabolic, not dermatologic, resulting from overexposure (as in 6 hours) to sun.
mircea_popescu: mostly D vitamin overload (nausea, lack of appetite, that sorta thing)
spyked: ah! mircea_popescu (and possibly other folks interested in ro-en translations)! almost forgot:
http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/86l91/?raw=true <-- to drill. need to make 1-2 passes through it before sending to silviu gherman d00d. (been also watching his stuff, guy has grown on me!)
mircea_popescu: it is. you get it in like, greek islands. sun too nice to burn but you do too much of it as a non-local
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not just d vitamin, either. but basically what happens is sun-driven metabolism overwhelms liver, products build up. solution is "not be such a noob", stuff fixes itself but after some practicve.
mircea_popescu: mats i'd rather bet next 5 years includes giving up on intel as given up on army, rely on foreign intel orgs.
mircea_popescu: moved industry to china, moved army to afghanistanis, pakistanis, whoever else could be arsed, move intel to israel next and so on.
mircea_popescu: spyked do you have an agreement in principle with the guy or anything though ?