mod6: im saying, "what a pile of shit". burn it all.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so i was gonna ask you, you say books got ruined by any schmuck being able to print one ?
mircea_popescu: would you say random wage slave with a kid in tow and a vague interest in maybe spending a week on "writing a book" is watering down "neoreaction" or whatever the fuck you'd call the line of "being an internet tough guy in the style of curtis yarvin" ?
mircea_popescu: have you noticed this, by the way ? apparently, that's a line ; and apparently it'll get filled ; apparently by substantially the same guy.
mircea_popescu: so far we've not agreed this is part of any sort of catacomb.
mircea_popescu: you like to act as if "books" are the same thing ; they aren't ; mostly because you like to think "people reading books" are the same thing. they also aren't. and sure as fuck "internet agreement clubs" aren't political instruments.
mircea_popescu: "i became more able to continue as an automaton in the fiat order"
mircea_popescu: you know even basic compiler puts a fucking ^ at the specific point where it lost it ? what am i going to do with "waitwut" ?
mircea_popescu: so you don't believe the situation where a man who is not in point of fact qualified to discuss these matters nevertheless discusses them actually "dillutes the internet".
mircea_popescu: specifically because while it won't be fundamentally correct, it'll still be interesting, and different interests are for different people.
mircea_popescu: ok, then by this same token you should believe "anyone can publish" improved books.
mircea_popescu: look at these people. what fucking right do they have to discuss "society" ?
mircea_popescu: they're fucking poor, for one thing. dependents to the hilt. what.
mircea_popescu: if yarvin/spandrell/etc qualify to discuss society ; then literally ex boxers are qualified to pen books.
mircea_popescu: do you mind discussing what we're discussing rather than what you're discussing ?
mircea_popescu: how is this supposed to work, "waiter can be as dirty as he pleases, not like he's the cook" ?
mircea_popescu: the fact remains random married derp who has to earn his daily bread has no right and no qualification to criticise society.
mircea_popescu: sooner or later it'll come back to "oh, you don't seriously mean to kill my children!111"
mircea_popescu: the fact remains that either you agree EVERYONE writing as many books as humanly possible is really a benefit for books, somehow (cuz you get access to supposedly valuable whatever the fuck you wouldn't have otherwise) ; or else you agree random internet dude picking up the web mantle and derping about how "the cathedral" sucks is really fucking up the work of the actual good men involved in tearing that shit down.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this "nobody on the internet knows you're a dog" does not excuse any dogs.
mircea_popescu: well, and until i learn stupid myself, dickens' my man for stupid.
mircea_popescu: so then therefore we agree that more books being published is the best thing that ever happened for the book.
mircea_popescu: hey, you can't special plead. you gotta argue to mechanism.
mircea_popescu: so far this difference is entirely in eye of youholder.
mircea_popescu: well, if it's all in eye of beholder, then books ~can't be ruined~.
mircea_popescu: "x can be burried" "so can y" "anything can be" "Then why bring it up"
mircea_popescu: i see not the difference. before, you had to get permission from authority to publish ; then, you had to get enough money / promise of sales together ; finally, you had to have a "following".
mircea_popescu: seems scarcely any difference. the pow such as it was, always was some social capital, and not much at that.
mircea_popescu: to any human activity that's fragmentary and incomplete (such as writing, whatever the form), two fundamental approaches may be applied.
mircea_popescu: the idiotic one, and also the historical loser, is to reject anything imperfect, and hold out.
mircea_popescu: the smart one, and also the historical winner, is to accept anything not-entirely-shitty, and let it sort itself.
mircea_popescu: now, as per the former, you'd have to forbid anyone from writing anything about "neoreaction" because i dunno, they're clouding out the true truth as found on your blog.
mircea_popescu: historically, they tried to control commentary on the bible, for it distracted from bible study.
mircea_popescu: but as per the latter... just fucking write, who cares.
mircea_popescu: i dunno man, always takes more to write than it takes to not read.
mircea_popescu: i do not believe i ever found myself in this "email" situation. not ever. trilema comments have been a shocking exception, but otherwise
mircea_popescu: a) i never participated in groups where open address was the norm and b) you'd have to go through filters to get to me.
mircea_popescu: so then what "death of email". like "Death of lice", oh honey, what ever happened to all the lice.
mircea_popescu: they're not really given netpipes now, either. gotta pollute windows and forums and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: "you want to get through, this is how you get through. you don't want to get through, here's an unsupervised mailbox"
mircea_popescu: this is like "mp has never been married". you gotta CONSENT to be married!
a111: Logged on 2016-06-04 16:33 asciilifeform: i can see it from dirigible, firing warning hbomb shots across potomac river. but from captive derp ?
mircea_popescu: what ever happened to "you want it signed, 5bn goes there. else take a hike"
mircea_popescu: "everything i do is me being in a '''weak''' negotiating position. it's my sexual fantasy."
mircea_popescu: what you call "a weak negotiating position" i call being a woman. you're supposed to take it up the ass ; that's the design.
mircea_popescu: can one even kill himself with a nagant ? ain't it too long ?
mircea_popescu: the irony of all time being that all these schmucks running around enacting this damsel in distress fantasy "oh noes i'm in a WEAK NEGOTIATING POSITION" are all working class stiffs with absolutely nothing to look for anyway, and that in the best case.
mircea_popescu: "oh, i gotta take college debt on, i'm in a weak negotiating position. otherwise i don't get to my bright fucking future".
mircea_popescu: it's never you know, i'm the lord of aquitanie, here lost in fucking coventry and i want to go back home.
mircea_popescu: no, it's alweays "if i do really well maybe I WILL BE". you'll be what, exactly.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would a man chose to live as a woman over dying as a man.
mircea_popescu: there's a very fucking good reason she changes her name and wears her hair as long as captor ordains. it's the fucking design, she gets captured and re-socialized in captor's castle.
mircea_popescu: but now i finally understand why i'm mostly uninterested in having any truck with males.
mircea_popescu: without letters of introduction from known source... best stick with skirts.
mircea_popescu: which is what stuff like bar mitzvah etc was supposed to be in the first place.
mircea_popescu: well, as ritual. but as meaning, it's a sort of "men of community vouch for this young shit"
mircea_popescu: which come to think about... i dunno where they find these. i knew maybe half dozen 13yo i'd have vouched for, and that's already pushing it.
mircea_popescu: where do they find dudes to vouch for everything that ever crawls out from between a woman's legs is the mystery of all time.
mircea_popescu: one doesn't have to be a highwayman anymore than anything else. what, you gotta be a highwayman now ?
mircea_popescu: you're so narrowly welded to this "i will improve my lot" us quakerism. what algo.
mircea_popescu: there isn't an algo. not something to use, or w/e. the results aren't within your hands.
mircea_popescu: you do what you do. what comes of it, nobody cares. ideally least of all you. once you start caring, you start losing.
mircea_popescu: there's this moment of manhood for homer simpson when marge bakes a pie and he says "i'm just going to chew this way, no pies better be getting in my way".
mircea_popescu: the only true hero is solipsist. that much is sterling.
mircea_popescu: kinda why the whole "materialism", be it whichever socialist flavour is so lulzy. dude, srsly, "you've solved the problems of people" ? gee whiz, i wonder why they can't be arsed to pick up your calls.
mircea_popescu: lemme ask you this. suppose for whatever reason tomorrow you gotta make a choice ; say of employer.
mircea_popescu: now, if you pick employer A, you do reversing, and will be killed in a car crash next week.
mircea_popescu: however, if you pick employer B, you do cooking, and will be killed in a kitchen fire next month.
mircea_popescu: does it EVEN MAKE A FUCKING DIFFERENCE what comes after "and will" ?
mircea_popescu: so you're going to change careers for the extra weeks then ?
mircea_popescu: (this, incidentally, is why it's so hard to get men to stop smoking. women - easy enough, show them sufficient pictures of children fucked by alligators or whatnot. men... dun care.)
mircea_popescu: nope. i have nfi how they could possibly "bitrot" seeing how the sks updates are really supposed to pass hashes of files too
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the whole "we spontaneously change keys for no reason" thing is as ridiculous as it always was.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Question of the day is was the flipped bit a blink or a pause in the fiber
a111: Logged on 2016-06-05 02:49 mircea_popescu: nope. i have nfi how they could possibly "bitrot" seeing how the sks updates are really supposed to pass hashes of files too
a111: Logged on 2016-06-05 02:50 mircea_popescu: the whole "we spontaneously change keys for no reason" thing is as ridiculous as it always was.
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mod6: alright, so now (still in test) but when someone [adds/edits/removes] a ticket via tb0t, those changes are propagated to the live website along with generated graphs.
mod6: will continue testing a bit tomorrow, and if all is well, may deploy. the log part still needs a few tweaks, but main stuff is complete.
mircea_popescu: hey, i'm new. i spent most of my life not giving a shit.
mircea_popescu: there is no actual future for chinese culture is there.
mircea_popescu: so far in any case it seems that the chinese are the people and the usians the insectoids.
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly : de niro's so obsexed with pacino, he had to have his very own scent of a woman (dirty granpa). you should see this thing. they manage to be so weird they spend half the movie apologizing, man-to-man-talking and etc for his eventual fucking (sort-of) this teenaged slut.
mircea_popescu: ridiculous with dingbats. and oh so poorly written, good lord.
mircea_popescu: there's an ancient ro joke/sf story whereby people moved into the past "limitedly" for "research purposes", and ended up discovering that most everyone there is... them, with the actual locals a tiny minority.
mircea_popescu: but that's nothing ; the case is still fresh in my mind when BingoBoingo made up some stupid shit about how a guy was so fat he used a stick to wipe his ass ; and other perverse defecation tales - which then became the ACCEPTED STANDARD of "what fat people do" according to "everyone" on social media.
mircea_popescu: this confusion of meta for literal is its very own doom.
mircea_popescu: of course nonsensical hysteria can just as well be periodically rediscovered.
mircea_popescu: but that aside, as many people use a stick to wipe their own ass as died of fan-mediated asphyxia.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> but that's nothing ; the case is still fresh in my mind when BingoBoingo made up some stupid shit about how a guy was so fat he used a stick to wipe his ass ; and other perverse defecation tales - which then became the ACCEPTED STANDARD of "what fat people do" according to "everyone" on social media. << ty, but that is credit for TOO much
mircea_popescu: i honestly believe the item exists because you were bored one day ; and people couldn't distinguish between "social media signal" and actual need.
BingoBoingo: Who knows how many fat people were helped in this version of legend because they moved up from not wiping at all thanks to stick discovery!
BingoBoingo thought asciilifeform had not seen nor believed in them. Or were they in Chiraq the other week?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform checked out "moron lab". didn't live long did it.
mircea_popescu: sometimes i wonder if i'm the only guy who ever had one blog.
mircea_popescu: in fairness, it's the optimal use for "his idea" such as it was.
mircea_popescu: i want what used to be signal 6, ABRT ; indicating to the receiving item to immediately drop whatever subroutine is doing and continue above.
mircea_popescu: this because interaction between firefox and javascript is nothing short of noxious
mircea_popescu: no. i do not want to kill the program. i want to force it to drop what it's doing and pay attention.
mircea_popescu: anyway, what's the big fucking whoop. when caught sigabort, return(6) or w/e.
mircea_popescu: what, forcing program writer whores to procedurize sanely is too onerous ?
mircea_popescu: that may be, but there's still absolutely no reason it can't IMMEDIATELY RETURN WHATEVER CURRENT PROCEDURE ITS IN
mircea_popescu: "every stack frame can at any time and for no reason return ; handle this."
mircea_popescu: upon return, whatever was allocated for it on heap is free.
mircea_popescu: you didn't wipe the program scope ; you wiped the frame in question.
mircea_popescu: DONT LOOK AT ME! I'm not the one who came up with that bright idea.
mircea_popescu: there's ~no reason you couldn't allocate memory properly, c or no c.
mircea_popescu: nothing can be more expensive than this "oops sorry firefox got lost in bootstrap.js".
mircea_popescu: try the experiment : open temp-mail.org in a browser let it sit for a day, then profile it.
mircea_popescu: it's bullshit. of course the machine has fi. just... it likes to ambiguously pretend it does or doesn't, like a lazy bitch.
mircea_popescu: if it dun feel like doing what you want, "it has nfi" ; otherwise, if there's a virus or something, it knows them like its own tits.
mircea_popescu: if you were right no sub could ever read anything back from memory.
mircea_popescu: this isn't the case ; and that it isn't the case is proof archsufficient it knows EXACTLY what's what and OPTS to not do what i tell it to.
mircea_popescu: well, pick different abstractions i guess, because the only response stavka has for "we don't have adequate tools" is coming down a gun barrel.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the best part of that article is random derp frothing about how "monero'd have made it impossible for egypt to be a shithole"
mircea_popescu: it's like the derps got kicked out of bitcoin, seamlessly moved to whatever.
mircea_popescu: it's not clear it's heresy in any sense ; but the core of web-shannonizers is always the same.
mircea_popescu: they're the same people who think islam means they get a nice wife courtesy of allah, just like that.
mircea_popescu: technology that works by itself and solves their problems, that sorta stuff.
mircea_popescu: and the "punishes adultery and encourages marriage" thing - exactly the same.
mircea_popescu: not really. main dev was in #b-a, invited twice to argue his thing, declined twice to do so.
mircea_popescu: funkenstein was doing something or the other (even more modestly) with some other coin, wood-something.
mircea_popescu: well... mno ; they're not bad people, just, married to a context.
mircea_popescu: it's one of those "i'll be a man and everything else will stay as it was when i was a child".
mircea_popescu: technically i suppose the word would be emotional debt.
mircea_popescu: at least that's how i saw it ; "i ~~~just want to~~~ work on these technical problems, and will ignore/hallucinate/otherwise cope with the political implications"
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm sure there were people in america who believed the spanish showing up to be a good thing.
mircea_popescu: people have this capacity to imagine what's going on in their head is most important, and everything happening outside a sort of minor companion point.
mircea_popescu: hence all the vomit about imaginary links between "cypherpunks" and bitcoin. and so on.
mircea_popescu: if it weren't for trilema, people'd still derp about how bitcoin is here to save the geeks and the poor.
mircea_popescu: and finance sprawling suspended gardens of the future where ecofeminist tribes will raise the blabla.
mircea_popescu: and then they want to legalize pot. worst fucking idea.
a111: Logged on 2014-08-25 03:08 asciilifeform: busy as a bee << funny that they show an idiot sow scrubbing, and not, e.g, paul erdos crapping out theorems
mircea_popescu: let's put it this way : the most stimulants can do for you is stimulate ; but on the long term they still debalance.
mircea_popescu: and the principal problem of exceptional people is that they have trouble keeping balance.
mircea_popescu: not that they're not getting enough done in 5 minutes.
a111: Logged on 2015-09-01 03:19 mircea_popescu: and i'm like..... mmmkay nevermind.
jurov: asciilifeform: afaik no 0.8 investigation.
jurov: and does it really leak less?
ben_vulpes: " The Runabout uses reflection to find visit methods. But instead of invoking the visit methods with reflection, the Runabout uses dynamic code generation to create code at run-time that will invoke the appropriate visit method." grothoff is just full of good ideas
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: some java codegen thinger the taler guy wrote a while ago
ben_vulpes: "or from 30cm away through a plain mobile phone placed next to the computer" ahaha airgap amirite
ben_vulpes: still gotta trick me into decrypting your payloads
a111: Logged on 2015-09-12 17:11 asciilifeform: in other news,
http://taler.net << the usg-approved, built-in-tax-collector-and-stoolie altcoin is finally rolled out.
a111: Logged on 2015-09-12 17:13 asciilifeform: 'Unlike BitCoin or cash payments, Taler ensures that governments can easily track their citizen's income and thus collect sales, value-added or income taxes. Taler is thus a currency for the mainstream economy, and not the black market.'
mod6: ok updated and fixed, thanks asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: meanwhile france is usg because if yer not with us yer against us (tm) (r) ?
shinohai: One of the tor project developers.
shinohai: Think he wrote some Snowden articles or somesuch iirc
BingoBoingo: Aha, useful patsy must hang too when milked of useful
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mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-05#1477486 << you just calm the fuck down and load the problem in head. if it's an actual blocking thing you just naturally stop sleeping until it's resolved ; if not, head goes on into a sub thinking about it ; which will eventually return with the results. this is how most trilema articles are written.
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-06-05 15:58 asciilifeform: what might those be ?
a111: Logged on 2016-06-05 21:54 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-05#1477486 << you just calm the fuck down and load the problem in head. if it's an actual blocking thing you just naturally stop sleeping until it's resolved ; if not, head goes on into a sub thinking about it ; which will eventually return with the results. this is how most trilema articles are written.