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mircea_popescu: it's true, too. esl tards are UNIQUELY illiterate, you've not seen anything like it, "college graduates" with a sub 1k word vocabulary and understanding of grammar so rudimental as to render them incapable of theoretical production on the level of naming the fucking cases, or practical accomplishment on the level of analysing one phrase...
mircea_popescu: by now, esl ~= substance abuse kinda like "true communist" ~= trotstky glasses cca 1919
mp_en_viaje: same dumb cunts, except esl rather than rsl.
mircea_popescu: i would dare say that the ~average~ trial rate for ESL males was UNDER TWO at any point in the past century (trial rate is where the woman is naked on her knees begging and you're making her call whether to keep her or get rid of her).
BingoBoingo: Right, the ESL marketing victims
BingoBoingo: I suspect most of their customers are marketers or the sortof ESL marketing victim who imagines he has to pay Adobe to be "creative" despite anti-producing
mircea_popescu: but in more reality-anchored basis for discussion, i'd guess about one third of esl females in age range of interest live in communal arrangements. some are publicly run, aka "university dorms" ; some are privately run, of which as much as one third also illegally run.
mircea_popescu: fwih esl gals only get them in the stomach.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, some ESL leftists picked up something a Uruguayo "scientific historian"/"national systems" professor wrote in an English translation. It's being chopped up for blog.
Mocky: with >80% foreigners all speaking english, the Qataris fear becoming ESL. signage is dual language because Arabic is mandated. in 2012 they passed a law mandating universities switch from english to arabic for all degree for all degree programs other than sci/eng/med. in 2016 further law mandating arabic for gov agencies, contracts, schools
BingoBoingo: ESL is a curse, especially when WikiBritain keeps redirecting their Fritzchip articles to TPM wank
mircea_popescu: kinda what this is about, yes ? admirable translation from english into orcland of bureaucratese, so that the overarching goal of esl bureaucracy (integration of worldwide police state at speed that exceeds integration of worldwide world in general) can be supported.
Mocky: that would be nice. I haven't looked at foreign job prospects. I guess you'd call me ESL
mircea_popescu: this is incidentally a pretty decent parlour trick : take a bonbon in one hand and nothing i nthe other, and present young child with the choice -- but shake your head no as he goes for the bonbon. you'll be surprised (really, in esl lands you'll be downright shocked) how much trouble young kids have in escaping this trap.
mircea_popescu: зможное наличие дубликатов закрытого ключа. ", they produced that on their own power ? that's like... 1000% more than what the esl world managed.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, odds are very much no women cooking in his life. it is universally my experience esl girls do not even conceptuialize such a miracle as "make your own food" is possible.
mircea_popescu: yeah, because it's totally so likely esl females are autonomous enough they'd do something about it.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4 so i take it you're familiar with history as retold by the esl : how socrates died, and how plato did not die.
mircea_popescu: either that or the ever growing self-absorption of esl speakers has... well.. absorbed.
ben_vulpes: of the esl set that is
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 20:10 phf: i guess the main differentiator is whether or not douchebag actually wants to hack, in which case it's going back to commodore thread. between esl education and ipad there's no obvious direction of exploration, that he can take the way we could take it in the 90s
phf: i guess the main differentiator is whether or not douchebag actually wants to hack, in which case it's going back to commodore thread. between esl education and ipad there's no obvious direction of exploration, that he can take the way we could take it in the 90s ☟︎
mircea_popescu: fucking tony. to quote from recent trilema, "And obviously it will then become, suddenly and unexplainably, a "native" topic of conversation ailleurs, specifically in such ESL ailleurs as may "coincidentally" but necessarily "forget" to mention where they even discovered this may be a topic of conversation in the first place. Oy vey.."
phf: i suspect if not for hollywood and modern esl, en version wouldn't be as revolting. really goes for a lot of writing in english
phf: you calling me esl!
mircea_popescu: yeah seriously. failure of the esl mind is mostly ensured by a very broken evaluation of "success". take the brick in hand, enough achievement for the first day is to have managed to fucking hold it. yes, it's completely opaque to you. so what if it is. so are many things. see what can be cracked out of it ; there's no shortage of "science fiction" "magical realism" whatever in the actual world once one's you know, no longer
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-06#1765700 << Danke schön. I'd like to escape the arid esl labyrinth so I've been slowly attempting to lerne Deutsch (still "daycare" level though); this may help to kill two birds with one stone. Looking like Kritik der reinen Vernunft would be my logical starting point ☝︎
asciilifeform: ~that~ esl.
ReadErr: I dont doubt that either, ive seen many esl speakers out perform americans/brits
mircea_popescu: ReadErr not to mention speaks multiple languages. "esl" is a thing even.
mircea_popescu: i'd like to meet this esl tard who reads jezbel and works on his car himself.
mircea_popescu: most "couple trouble" among college-educated esl readily reduce to "two subbies tired of their bitter arguments over who has to dom for the evening".
mircea_popescu: all the foregoing aside (and much related to what you say) i suspect this is also a very specific vulnerability of the esl folk, in that they DONT expect the language to complain when misused.
mircea_popescu: idle over-ripe esl males, who.
mircea_popescu: yes but rarely will a us born esl fellow wriote his angst under the correct piece.
mircea_popescu: gains ~not just for the "new" language~! the old one as well! i'm a much better english speaker than absolutely any esl speaker BECAUSE i speak a bunch of other languages that ARE NOT english, which STRENGTHENS my english.
mircea_popescu: THAT is what esl speaker has in mind when saying "grad student".
mircea_popescu: so you'd think. but then how many esl azns do you bed, cuz nobody speaks the truth outside the bedroom.
mircea_popescu: or else, guy very well preyed on the substantial, idiotic naivite of esl tards who had such nostalgy, and also very gullible.
mircea_popescu: kanzure it's empty wankery of the sort a certain kind of us-born, esl drone (aka, castrato) engages in.
a111: 79 results for "esl", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=esl
asciilifeform: !#s esl
mircea_popescu: apparently the "it REALLY doesn't matter what you do" point is entirely incomprehensible to teh esl.
mircea_popescu: the expectation that if you listen in a conversation of people you don't know you'll nevertheless be able to discern what is being said is pretty much THE thing distinguishing the esl anglotard from actual thinking people with a functioning head and part of a culture etc.
whaack is working on his "ESL" problem
mircea_popescu: borders are quite closed, to eg, esl precious cuntlet.
mircea_popescu: and we're not even talking about the cases where the writer ISN'T FUCKING MONOLINGUAL like some sort of esl mongoloid. good luck with that.
mircea_popescu: this, of course, from an alt-world where people don't esl and mothers cook or hang.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski fortunately nobody gives a flying fuck what esl speakers say on any topic. this is very deeply difficult for the selfsame esltards to grok, but it DOES explain why trilema is more widely read than nytimes.
asciilifeform: javascript does not exemplify anything -- other than the consequences of letting idiot 'esl' teenagers create infrastructure.
mircea_popescu: this is exactly like random esl female thinking she has a "household"
mircea_popescu: this is then a systematic reason, which a certain sort of esl anthropologist would call "cultural", but which can be readily brought back to money : because the only dollars they have can be used to pay rents, but they don't have the kind of bill that pays for engineers.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the sentiment is mutual : trilema is too hard, hurts the head and the undercurrent of disdain is hard to miss, even for esl tards.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i kinda doubt it. there's really not much common root between me and teh esl derps.
asciilifeform: or esl vs not. etc
mircea_popescu: but perhaps if you're esl, "made public" means "made privately available to some people who aren't us" or something. god knows everything else means something else, so what the hell's the difference.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-14 19:20 mircea_popescu: hanbot you know, looking through it... one thing that struck me about the abundance of patently insane esl folk is, this strange, rare (from a clinical pov) tendency to minutiously document their whatevers.
mircea_popescu: hanbot you know, looking through it... one thing that struck me about the abundance of patently insane esl folk is, this strange, rare (from a clinical pov) tendency to minutiously document their whatevers. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: problem being by now it's the principal intellectual activity of esl adults, risibly enough.
mircea_popescu: http://olegbumbac.blogspot.com.ar/2012/05/normal-0-false-false-false-en-us-x-none.html << maybe interesting to the esl crowd that earnestly believes "western decay" is "woman's fault" because they somehow oppress males or are feminazis or whatever : the supposedly independent republic of moldavia exhibits the EXACT opposite atmosphere (like many ex soviet sattelite provinces, actually, orcland). the females are outright worsh
mircea_popescu: it's the #1 symptom of esl-ism, and as unbefitting as it's unseemly.
mircea_popescu: in fact, the difference between pothead and esl-scammer is about of the size and substance of the difference between "poor woman" and "whore" in 1700. o, really , you're a good girl ?
asciilifeform: and non-'esl' memory etc.
mircea_popescu: esl - english as a single language.
asciilifeform: esL?
mircea_popescu: the boi, in this case, is theo de radt, but he's not so dissimilar from any other esl speaker.
ben_vulpes: it ain't conjugation 'cause it ain't a verb, (and this question clearly makes me an "ESL" speaker) so what is the linguistic term of art for constructing language elements like this?
mircea_popescu: (anyway, lest the esl reader acquires the wrong impression from the logs - at issue is not that the thing was done, per se. at issue is HOW the thing is done. which is to say : shockingly unexpected, which requires a) a large body of work against which to expect pre-existend and b) a language strong enough to shock against that. these are plain impossible requisites in "reasonable" languages, and they can't be met by p
assbot: ESL Police warn: Body on road could be carjacking ruse | Belleville News-Democrat ... ( http://bit.ly/1KNcfcG )
mircea_popescu: but by esl retards.
BingoBoingo: Ironically the definition of irony used on the ESL interwebz has expanded so much it has no meaning. It nao has as much meaning as "a" or "the"
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: because i'm an esl derp
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform o i know. was very amused at some incredibly hamhanded esl scam-pushing linked earlier.
pete_dushenski: which in itself is quite funny that being 'social' so closely relates to be 'socialist' for esl world
nubbins`: "dave's ESL cafe" full of similar
mircea_popescu: how about stranded on island, east half of which is constantly flooded, all esl-ians gather there because "it looks just like the bay area, man!"
mircea_popescu: the entire "like/dislike" process as practiced by esl people atm is due for some reform.
mircea_popescu: not mine. theirs. there's a type of esl castrato that exhibits this strange insanity of behaviour, that a problem is either solved within the first three passes or never.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: you gotta remember Australia is a pioneer is "social sciences" ESL retardations. They pioneer these things for USia and Lower Britain.
ben_vulpes: man security world must be even more esl than i was given to understand
mircea_popescu: your average doobie, with a mediocre college degree and an ESL culture mostly geared towards ingested summaries is perfectly unable to decode metaphor or recognise complex enough patterns and fill in the gaps. this to him is frustrating, and the frustration is predictably resolved by lashing out (hey, it's the guy fault for using rferences i have to google and math i don't grok!11). in no way better than a clinical mor
asciilifeform: 'ESL'
nubbins`: speaking from experience, roughly half of all ESL teachers are "strange"
mircea_popescu: this is mostly important because considering on one hand the uninformed low level arithmeticizing of reality prevalent in the esl world, and on the other the utter insanities passed for "graphs" on the forum, but also generally in the world - say that abject "cross model", people really need a little example of PROPER use of numbers.
asciilifeform: (which one is not forced to use, unlike the one in certain very early 'e-readers', but tempts sufficiently many ESL (to use mircea_popescu's term) folks to bring in a pretty penny for the vendor)
mircea_popescu: (where esl = english as a sole language)
mircea_popescu: actually it wouldn't surpriose me to find that's the process through which it was invented. all like nlp and shit, yarvin sat down and figured hey, this is going to positively attract the esl retards.
mircea_popescu: for our esl (english as a single language) friends : мили́ция = mili-tsya
mircea_popescu: anyway, i suppose in all fairness the byzantino-rabinical approach to the written text as deployed for the needs of bitbet is a special kind of hell for all esl speakers.
mircea_popescu: some esl kid on the fringe of culture nevertheless believes that "as a Category", X "shouldn't be fun".
BingoBoingo: Well, ESL user that spams reddit with blog, doesn't get called out for it. Prolly because eSL
mircea_popescu: well, esl turbulence anyway.
mircea_popescu: johntraveller fluent foreigner is usually a better model than local esl, but maybe worth a shot.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla "0.01 is accept now". lol. we gotta get in on this esl btc market.
nubbins`: c'est un super esl
mircea_popescu: "been a hundred years with Banksters at rule making money from sratch charge the interest to fools" << le esl ?
mircea_popescu: one of my esl slavergirls can influence the future more than the entire troop of 'em.
mircea_popescu: (for the esl folk, a flap is an affectionate term for a prepubescent prostitute, also used for uppity, vivacious girls in general, as a testament to the traditional positive social view on tween prostitution)
mircea_popescu: xmj, world's best is esl nonsense. make it world's foremost
mircea_popescu: dub you woke up late and the bar was all out of regular english, got stuck with esl ?