joecool: mircea_popescu: i believe he did that for what they call, the lulz
a111: Logged on 2016-05-12 15:40 asciilifeform: $up luke-jr
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell luke-jr trilema.com/2016/the-necessary-prerequisite-for-any-change-to-the-bitcoin-protocol/
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the muppets live off pretense and derpage. perfectly self-consistent.
mircea_popescu: bad crop, bad pose, what the fuck is it with the milkstained, nipple torn bra and so on.
☟︎ shinohai: Still rather nice to wake up to I'd say.
mircea_popescu: girl's clearly havign fun / feeling safe / all in lubs and shit. which is definitely something that went out of porn with the end of the 80s.
shinohai: ;;later tell mod6 I almost have bot able to accept tickets, needs a few tweaks.
shinohai: I got obsessed with tbot features last night.
shinohai: I am getting this error for some reason when generating ascii graphs: Warning: Layouter could only place 31 nodes/31 edges out of 31/34 - giving up at t.pl line 312.
shinohai: Just go ahead and write the Chicago Trib and NYT while yer at it bub
mircea_popescu: used to be how this worked, 150 or so years ago. you wrote to the newspaper, and they were so impressed you could write at all they'd hire you.
mircea_popescu: fuck, 50 years ago people'd be so impressed you had a computer at all they'd hire you. etc.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i can't recall who's wash ro ambassador. but traditionalyl that thing's a total rat's nest of spyppls.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-14 14:38 mircea_popescu: lol nothing wrong with that is there ?
ben_vulpes: boeck's going to show up with all of the keys and a backdated modulus or two now
ben_vulpes: now that he's got the whole keyset he can properly duplicate and backdate stan's work
mircea_popescu: and "nobody knows" that new ones pop here as they happen, ofcourse. lettuce not be divisive.
mod6: shinohai: ah cool man.
davout: asciilifeform: you didn't spot it, you failed the test
BingoBoingo waits for the eventually day when alf wanders into an embassy and the embassy doesn't let him leave.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: or maybe the day BingoBoingo wanders into a cunt and the cunt doesn't let him leave/
mircea_popescu: lost forever in the streets of whaledom... he's the man that never ret-urned.
shinohai: i didn't catch that, nice one hanbot
mircea_popescu: hanbot you know, looking through it... one thing that struck me about the abundance of patently insane esl folk is, this strange, rare (from a clinical pov) tendency to minutiously document their whatevers.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: turns out, this, like most everything else in mental pathology, is actually the result of attempted curative practices
mircea_popescu: ie, that cbt shit. supposedly if you write down everything in detail instead of doing it, you'll be better.
mircea_popescu: to anyone qualified in the field it's obvious that this approach helps psychosis and hurts neurosis ; and that it's about 1000 times more likely to be picked up by the neurotic than by the psychotic. for the very fucking obvious reason that cures predicated on health are no fucking cures whatsoever omfg what school did these nitwits go to anyway!
mircea_popescu: but whatever, as long as conde nast's happy that reddit gets "user generated content" all's well.
hanbot: everyone knows you have to prepare for sucksess, what's this "doing" you speak of! it costs too much, it's better to wait, they'll do it once their real lives begin.
mircea_popescu: i don't think one third of present "first world" folk would pass a rigorous sanity check as executed by 1916 mental health practitioners.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: leaving aside how they wouldn't pass the ridicule of the flauberts of that world.
hanbot: well i imagine most women would get the "hysterical" stamp anyway.
mircea_popescu: genetics have not changed in a century ; or in ten millenia for that matter.
mircea_popescu: education however - has. reformed out the wazoo by all sorts of ustardian/evanghelical/whatever derps.
mircea_popescu: hanbot for all the derpage about "liberation" etc - most women don't actually behave like they're old enough to be house servants.
mircea_popescu: (which was, at the time, the fate of the highly functional retards. women above 90iq actually married.)
mircea_popescu: i have no fucking idea how progress, improvement and liberation resulted in a palpable drop of 25-30 iq points across the entire population, but there it is.
hanbot: well inasmuch as liberation is a removal of filters...
mircea_popescu: it's economically masked by the fact that power leverage increased with technology, exponentially - so to run a 10`000 group then you needed 1k > 100 and 100 > 110 and at least a dozen > 120, but now 3 people over 115 suffice.
mircea_popescu: but that aside ... and incidentally THIS is why "apocalyptic" scenarios are so fucking dangerous. god only help you if you're trying to live "in the civilised world" and ANYTHING happens to keep any one of those three from his toys.
diana_coman: <mircea_popescu> i have no fucking idea how progress, improvement and liberation resulted in a palpable drop of 25-30 iq points across the entire population, but there it is. <- uhm, correlation ate causation much?
mircea_popescu: and that something... doesn't have to be a meteor strike. suppose one of the three changes sides and goes full republic. what then.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: diana_coman but there's not that many alternative causations. it could either be genetic or environmental.
mircea_popescu: and since "progress" spans ALL the environment, the assessment's fair.
mircea_popescu: i do not care to distinguish which specific facet of progress did more, or most, or anything.
diana_coman: don't really know enough to say whether genetic really is simply the same for one thing
mircea_popescu: a few generations ? that's too fast for most bacteria.
diana_coman: for the other if it is for a simple explanation, I'd go for the fact that many more used to die before they even reached 15 or whatever
mircea_popescu: but if you ask the economiasts of the statu quo, they would say yes, this is progress - fewer idiots die now than then.
hanbot: mircea_popescu i think that's supposed to go "fewer great people die from preventable causes than then"
hanbot: not that i think the victim shouldn't be blamed in such cases. an exemption for eg francis bacon would've been nice tho.
mircea_popescu: it's great for his fucking health that if he starts running around the field packing chicken with snow he catches a cold and dies.
mircea_popescu: mental health, i mean. the problem of "coffin liners" that asciilifeform discussed in the log is the direct counter to this. if they don't catch their death of cold, they lose track of themselves. this is not good.
☟︎ hanbot: i suspect nature is stocked with enough barbs to allow for the occasional narrow escape without sacrificing doom&consequence.
hanbot: but i'm in a good mood.
mircea_popescu: and people suspected the river is stocked with enough garbagemen to allow for the occasional dumping of garbage.
mircea_popescu: educating children by the sight of the whip only works in children that have lived experience with the cut of the whip. otherwise, it's just some weird churchly ritual of no meaning, power or importance.
hanbot: can't learn once they're dead, neh?
hanbot: school of hardest knocks, i guess.
mircea_popescu: improving on nature is how fish tanks start with fish and end up with algae.
phf: mircea_popescu: word
phf: it actually comes up a lot, like standalone "
http"'s get highlighted as links
shinohai: I couldn't find what the outcome of their "legal options" were tho
hanbot: researchers now, is it.
mircea_popescu: so by 2020 "university research" will consist of reading logs and naught else. win.
mircea_popescu: in yet another example of "security industry" being a bunch of useless scammers, "<Wise> Why is my fsecure antivirus stopping the
http://logs.minigame.bz webpage in my browser claiming it´s suspect?"
mircea_popescu: the idiots are prolly regexp matching ".py" in the generated-by meta tag or somesuch idiocy.
phf: "( ) Safe. ( ) Suspicious. ( ) Harmful. (*) Seditious."
mircea_popescu: meanwhuile dumbass f-secure site pops all the bullshit surveys and whatnot.
deedbot: Framedragger voiced for 30 minutes.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-14 18:40 BingoBoingo waits for the eventually day when alf wanders into an embassy and the embassy doesn't let him leave.
BingoBoingo: lol, there are some of those scattered around this region too
BingoBoingo: none particularly close to where I frequent
a111: Logged on 2016-05-14 19:20 mircea_popescu: hanbot you know, looking through it... one thing that struck me about the abundance of patently insane esl folk is, this strange, rare (from a clinical pov) tendency to minutiously document their whatevers.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-14 19:26 mircea_popescu: i don't think one third of present "first world" folk would pass a rigorous sanity check as executed by 1916 mental health practitioners.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-14 19:32 mircea_popescu: and that something... doesn't have to be a meteor strike. suppose one of the three changes sides and goes full republic. what then.
BingoBoingo: No, the problem is the fucking scabs who keep on
BingoBoingo: They could at least drop out and play Xbawkz all day