assbot: _niko comments on Please report this person to twitter. They are threatening Andreas saying they will kill him.
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assbot: Twitter / Account gesperrt
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BingoBoingo: I swear the Buttcoin people offer more insightful commentary into Bitcoin than r/bitcoin
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jurov: BingoBoingo: that's not surprising
assbot: Loper OS » A Review of MPEx, the Bitcoin Stock Exchange.
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mike_c: talk about a battle of retard nations. twitter vs bitcointalk. which is worse? bitcointalk banning mpoe-pr or twitter banning mircea?
pankkake: twitter is democratic/witchhunt ban
mike_c: some employee had to pull the trigger, no?
BingoBoingo: mike_c: I think bans are probably automated when a landslide of reports from a TOS violating reddit witchhunt occur
mike_c: interesting.. so the mob can silence anyone.
csshih: what did you honestly expect
mike_c: idk. they aren't even public yet. i guess i expected more of a laissez faire attitude.
mike_c: wait, brain fart. of course they are public. ok, nevermind.
assbot: Twitter Inc: NYSE:TWTR quotes & news - Google Finance
cgcardona: i was at Trulia before/after the IPO and there was a noticable difference
cgcardona: still a very cool company FWIW but def a difference before/after the IPO
assbot: Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeros - Home (RAC Mix) by RAC on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds
mike_c: although he did get extradited out of romania
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BingoBoingo: Well, with the exception of some of the only in captivity big cats
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assbot: Argentina Cats Photo Gallery - International Society for Endangered Cats | International Society for Endangered Cats
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moiety: these lil folks are amazing asciilifeform! i thought they looked like the sand cat in head shape, same genus :] like sand cats with more patterns
moiety: why must they attach cameras to cat traps? D;
moiety: oh! i thought they were capturing them physically as well lol. oh, i'm really glad you said that
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moiety: asciilifeform: but i had thoughts of scared looking people in puffer caots like with the manuls rather than them sitting frightened in a trap all night til the morning
assbot: Urban Dictionary: fuck you money
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moiety: i saw him! good christmas present for the photographer :D this one is extra fluffy too. if they lived here, i would go searching
BingoBoingo: I can imagine the Pallas Cat becoming an invasive species in Scotland at $500k/BTC
moiety: there's a cat they only discovered in 1992. black footed cat, though it's only the pads that are black.
moiety: we should have the manul as a national animal instead of the fricking unicorn
BingoBoingo: Ah, here in Illinois our mascot seems to be corruption of the wrong sort.
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moiety: sounds fun... isn't that the way with anywhere with politicians?
BingoBoingo: moiety: We have a rather direct line from the Governor's mansion to Jail.
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assbot: Illinois Governors In Prison: 4 Of State's Last 7 Governors Were Convicted, Imprisoned
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moiety: BingoBoingo: 4/7... im not sure if this is good they are being caught there or bad that theres so many?
moiety: how are you? are you new to assets poutine?
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poutine: moiety, Nah, I had found the channel through someone embedding an ASCII shout out in a nonstandard tx on the blockchain
poutine: spoke to some members before
assbot: iClarified - Apple News - Renesas to Sell Display Chip Business to Synaptics, Not Apple?
decimation: Apple had been in talks to acquire Renesas' entire 55% stake for an estimated 50 billion yen ($479 million).
moiety: poutine: ah kk. there's a wiki page on the channel homepage in the topic. what do you do?
decimation: WTF. So Apple is willing to offer $0.5 billion for an actual fabbed silicon company, while Google paid $3.2 billion for Nest, which had 50,000 overpriced (and underfeatured) thermostats shipped?
assbot: Bitcoin Transaction 15c2b9bc3b93e0c0a037c5fa8402d0e34e13d3bb0ce7fca65888e5d24e597dcc
moiety: np decimation, sorry i didn't check seeif you could self up. i bet Apple is pissed ..and I wonder how much more Synaptics offered
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decimation: My point is that $450 million is really cheap for a leading silicon fab firm
decimation: I can't think of any better proof that our "economy" is just a "USG friends & family plan"
moiety: poutine: well there's a lot to learn and this is a good place to have your ears open :]do you use btc in your working life at all?
poutine: No, but I am developing some cluster based transactional services for it
moiety: google don't seem to have purse strings though, they just buy everything
moiety: poutine: transactional services?
moiety: asciilifeform: with or without windows?
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: How has the adjustment to the new time zone been?
mircea_popescu: well it turns out i was living on argentine time when in romania
decimation: asciilifeform: is your point that a greyhound fleet should yield the same revenue as the #10 silicon fab?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: tried to blind a flir drone? gasenwagen. << im still boggled by what's involved into weaponizing this. seems more like a bureaucrat striving to limit imagined risks than anything sane
mircea_popescu: \cgcardona: the header on trilema changed again? i thought it was once a quarter << i made an exception
decimation: well, in DC they have crazy airspace restrictions
dub: you know bill gates can shoot down mosquitos with lasers
dub: automated dron takedown is probably easier
decimation: as for lasers on aircraft, you don't neet to blind the pilot - simply dazzle
mircea_popescu: pilot is more there to tell the stewardesses to fasten their seatbelt than anything
decimation: actually I bet that's less true for helicopters than commercial aircraft
dub: fuckwits pointing these thinks at passenger aircraft is a real problem
dub: it even happens here in sensible land\
assbot: Qantas Flight 32 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
decimation: Captain de Crespigny concentrated on flying and managing the aircraft and monitoring the (100 ECAM) checklists being actioned by the First Officer. The supernumerary pilots monitored all actions and assisted where necessary.[23]
decimation: Humans exist to monitor the autopilot's turds
decimation: the cause of the engine failure: a Rolls Royce failed to manufacture an oil tube properly
decimation: I suspect that a jet engine manufacturer is worth less than a bus fleet too
mircea_popescu: decimation, so he was there telling the stewardesses when to take their belts off when suddenly a mountain hit it
assbot: Rolls-Royce Holdings plc 2013 Full Year Results - Rolls-Royce
decimation: which is only 91% of Google's Nest offer
decimation: I guess Rolls Royce should have made dumbass thermostats, it would have been more profitable
mircea_popescu: mike_c: talk about a battle of retard nations. twitter vs bitcointalk. which is worse? bitcointalk banning mpoe-pr or twitter banning mircea? << actually, me on twitter was prolly against their business model. mpoe-pr on btctalk is also against their business model.
decimation: well, Rolls Royce had a profit of $2,940mn before tax in 2013, so $19bn for whatsapp is 6.4 years of Rolls-Royce profit, or 1.5 years of revenue
decimation: Rolls Royce should ditch making engines and start making dumbass apps and stuff
cazalla: those laser pointers are considered a weapon in some states of australia
decimation: I have a modest collection of Weimar notes
cazalla: there was also a hand in your laser amnesty when it came in
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decimation: yes, it feels like that time will come in the US some day
mircea_popescu: assbot: Illinois Governors In Prison: 4 Of State's Last 7 Governors Were Convicted, Imprisoned << isn't it time for a whore governor ?
decimation: well, I guess the rule of thumb I was taught was for a private company, a reasonable offer is about 5 years revenue
mircea_popescu: decimation: My point is that $450 million is really cheap for a leading silicon fab firm << definitely a good buy yes
decimation: I donno, I guess it seems like in the world of building electronics, it takes lots of hard work and expensive trained staff to make a few percent profit per annum
decimation: where in other more bezzle-oriented industries you can have massive profit margins for little effort
mircea_popescu: decimation, the difference being that if you like your profit you can keep your profit.
decimation: yeah that's true, the the bezzle-world you have to dance by the money-printer's tune
BingoBoingo wonders where the infant laser marksmanship training occurs
mircea_popescu: you certainly can't send a few ks to a specialist butcher to bring you random derp's head on a platter.
decimation: the head of the FSB or whoever certainly could
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, this fall's gubernatorial election could bring a surprise similar to the UKIP win
decimation: I don't buy that the UK masses have suddenly turned against thier progressive overlords
decimation: asciilifeform speaking of bezzle, have you seen what it costs to transact property in Maryland?
decimation: even beyond the mortgage game, one has to pay %5-7 of the house cost to sell
mircea_popescu: on some searches trilema now outranks twitter, fucking finally.
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decimation: I find your remark about the lack of classics scholarship in the US interesting
decimation: I'm looking for a classical education for my kid, and the options are not great
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decimation: do-it-yourself seems about the only option in the us
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decimation: Montaigne was forced to learn Latin before French
mircea_popescu: actually the russians prolly have the best classics depts atm
decimation: "After these first spartan years, Montaigne was brought back to the château. The objective was for Latin to become his first language. The intellectual education of Montaigne was assigned to a German tutor (a doctor named Horstanus who could not speak French). His father hired only servants who could speak Latin and they also were given strict orders to always speak to the boy in Latin. "
assbot: Selections from the Essays of Montaigne Wikipedia | Life | GradeSaver
mircea_popescu: anyway, the argentinio-brasileiro amorous congress, 4th edition (today) requires my presence. so i bid you all a very good hasta manana
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decimation: yeah I thought that link was hilarious :)
decimation: The only people who win in the property market on the East coast are the real estate agents & banks
decimation: on the other hand, the gov't subsidizes mortgages...
decimation: The US "financial system" mostly works by convincing the masses to stick their heads in the lion's mouth, on the understanding that he will decline to chomp down
decimation: or, convincing them to wear a particular master's chains, because the alternatives could be worse...
assbot: Everything Is Broken Medium
decimation: is that a yellow russian teletype machine in the background?
decimation: that article is amusing. The idea that the "normals" can "wake up" and do something about their situation is silly.
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bloctoc: would it be possible to get snowden elected to the bitcoin foundation?
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assbot: What Will Happen When All Paris Traffic Slows To 19 Miles Per Hour?
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assbot: BMF has lost access to it's wallet
fluffypony: please can someone explain how you don't have the wallet.dat backed up
fluffypony: "How the remote backups which I had running via cron disappeared was never explained or commented on."
fluffypony: why would you trust your backup infrastructure to your hosting company?
fluffypony: system backups should go to a company whose sole purpose is to maintain backed up data
fluffypony: with an additional daily / weekly / monthly delta mirrored to infrastructure under your direct control
joecool: but it's much easier to throw hosting co under the bus
joecool: "it's arij's fault i have no backup strategy!"
fluffypony: seriously, wtf. even a retard can put the wallet.dat on DropBox and be 99% safer than this
joecool: However it means we can never prove a legal claim to money owed to us by HashKing, AmazingRando, Ian Bakewell, BitcoinRS, etc. << ie. i'm going to sue bitvps for potential losses on money people owe me but might never pay
fluffypony: joecool: sounds good - don't you want to IPO that claim so people can invest in potential repayments?
joecool: seems to be the thing to do
fluffypony: mircea_popescu:anyone with a reddit presence want to start a subreddit ? <- I've found /r/BitcoinSerious to be really good, just not enough subscribers to keep the discussion flowing at pace
joecool: good thing reddit is fickle, yesterday they were trying to "ban mp from the internet" after he threatened a spiritual leader
joecool: today they'll probably praise him for his insight
xmj: are any of you into gaming Frequent Traveller systems?
joecool: xmj: i haven't really gotten into it so much, flyertalk is the place to go for that
xmj: where do I find that?
xmj: #flyertalk would have been too easy
joecool: yeah this is a forum, not IRC channel
joecool: punkman: even if it's not cost savings, it helps to understand the systems in order to save time if you are a frequent traveler
xmj: what I want to achieve is getting a LuftHansa Frequent Traveller card without spending _too_ much.
joecool: (and staying in better places is nice too)
xmj: LuftHansa + SWISS all the way.
xmj: joecool: thanks for the hint, that site is awesome
joecool: xmj: np, might wanna bookmark slickdeals and fatwallet too as they sometimes carry related info (FT wins though for travel specific advice)
xmj: joecool: I just want to make 34'000 M&M Miles this year
xmj: ...and get someone else to foot its bill :))
joecool: xmj: you can do pretty well gaming credit card introductions to get miles, i dunno what your credit situation is
xmj: joecool: I was thinking on getting an American Express for this exact purpose
xmj: i'm living in a country whose minimum wage is 300EUR/month, and make a few orders of magnitude. so that's going to be feasible
joecool: ah ok, def check what amex offers in your country, i know it's different regionally (i have a blue cash and anytime i'm out of the US nobody has ever seen one before)
joecool: but i don't pay annual fees, don't agree with it, they make enough off merchant fees, that's why i don't have charge :)
punkman: xmj, living in greece or passing through?
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xmj: punkman: business trip
xmj: punkman: living in Estonia.
xmj: punkman: check xmj.me
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xmj: joecool: I've looked into AmEx pricing, it's reasonable IF I can use it for most daily purchases.
joecool: not sure about acceptance rate in estonia
assbot: DevOps Borat (DEVOPS_BORAT) auf Twitter
fluffypony: "For increase revenue we are introduce paywall between dev team and ops team."
fluffypony: "In startup we are have immediate open for frontend Erlang engineer."
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mircea_popescu: imagine if you're hired to maintain an old codebase, and upon going through the tarball the first thing you notice is a file claled
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mircea_popescu: that article is amusing. The idea that the "normals" can "wake up" and do something about their situation is silly. << they can, i have experimentally verified this.
mircea_popescu: they do need to be women, willing to relocate and live as slaves for a few years. but those aside, yes, they can.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8428 @ 0.00088923 = 7.4944 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: "Hello. This is the letter I never expected I would have to write, primarily because I never saw this coming." lol usagi is such win
mircea_popescu: xmj: i'm living in a country whose minimum wage is 300EUR/month, and make a few orders of magnitude. so that's going to be feasible << out of gaming fidelity rewards ?
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell namworld so what's the bvps side of the usagi drama ? how did his server get shut down ?
mircea_popescu: "all the bitcoins in it have been lost. The total estimated damage is about $10,000 in realized costs". so he held 20 btc ?
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, link to that usagi letter please ?
assbot: BMF has lost access to it's wallet
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: maybe he means "BMF has lost access to it. Is wallet."
assbot: Contact Summary 18-25 May | #Bitcoin-Assets Reception
fluffypony: "18/05 21:33: Call from France; how to pronounce manul."
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bitcoinpete no response from the coindesk expert huh. because yeah, that totlaly works.
mircea_popescu: pankkake, how do i see backwards pages of the blogs assimilation ?
assbot: BMF has lost access to it's wallet
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> pankkake, how do i see backwards pages of the blogs assimilation ? <<< use a feed reader
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mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves, i was just looking at your blog. if i want to go back in your post history to see if you posted anything about prev conference to link in announcement of 3rd edition
mircea_popescu: and i dun wanna use a feed reader, i was gonna use that webpage.
xmj: mircea_popescu: no. IT job
mircea_popescu: but suppose i dun know what im searching for, other than,
xmj: mircea_popescu: what do you do?
ThickAsThieves: i've got like 20 post ideas saved as drafts though, so, in time
xmj: 352/355 packets received (99.2%) -240.691 min / 1962.406 avg / 3211.902 max
xmj: welcome to Athens Airport wifi.
cazalla: so I read my son books each evening, reading him a fire engine book tonight, found it amusing that the firemen rock up and start stealing anything not nailed down, not a person being rescued to be found
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xmj: mircea_popescu: what software stack do you run it on?
mircea_popescu: you'll have to review the quite abundant logs / articles discussing the matter etc.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves, hey, wanna do free pr advice for a moment ?
mircea_popescu: so if people without a clue ask such questions and i gruf at them, i'm being an asshoe. if i answer, they figure we're now eating from each other's plate.
mircea_popescu: what wisdom can your god offer to resolve this dilemma ?
mircea_popescu: nor will i become either on the pressure of happy ignorance. nor should the chan.
assbot: MPEx - serialized delusions
mircea_popescu: it's an info source in the sense the nyse floor is an info source : for some, for the privileged.
mircea_popescu: i currently don't. people who were around long long ago, when the year was 2012 and bitcoin was young know. i intend to maintain it as such, both in recognition of their privilege, and due to the fact that noobs really have no business knowing, or asking.
mircea_popescu: the infinite complexity of managing revolutionary systems ;/
mircea_popescu: xmj, don't take it too bad, it really isn;t about you.
xmj: mircea_popescu: your call to maintain privacy as to what stack you use
xmj is an oppressed minority
mircea_popescu: aaaactually, the funny part is, you're an opressed majority.
jurov: xmj don't hold your breath, from the glitches i've seen he clearly uses perl
mircea_popescu: kinda the reason we love bitcoin : it makes opressed majorities unavoidable.
xmj: i'm a white cis alpha male. I'm the minority.
ThickAsThieves: MPEx's overall software strategy is not supplied, some info is avaiable to appropriate interlopers
xmj: you know, not trans.
jurov: xmj, most trannies are hetero
xmj: mircea_popescu: do you keep the OS you're running it off just as secret?
mircea_popescu: i wonder if a "do trans fats make you a fag" study could get a grant
cazalla: check your bitcoin privilege! (glad i grabbed that domain today)
ThickAsThieves: mp feels you havent established ground to ask those kinds of questions
xmj: ThickAsThieves: no, I'm reframing the point. That's something else.
ThickAsThieves: and he's trying to sort how to be tactful saying so for the future
xmj: ThickAsThieves: Save yourself the interpretation.
cazalla: i'll prob just forward it to a porno tube
xmj: I don't think mircea_popescu needs an interpreter.
xmj: If he doesn't want to satisfy my curiosity I'll eventually get bored.
mircea_popescu: haha. oh this place is littered with the free time of they who thought so too.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the raging socialist terminology seems to be quite useful.
mircea_popescu: once you deconstruct the unexamined, forced ideas that all that stuff is somehow "bad", suddenly opression and privilege become quite meaningful.
xmj: I know, that's why I always 'check my privilege' once I get out of bed.
mircea_popescu: i wonder how long until chavs start wearing privileged bling badges
mircea_popescu: seems only the shortness of rappers imagination/clue that is keeping this from exploding. a guy rapping about just how privileged he is and so on would prolly kill
xmj: ThickAsThieves: it's been around for ages. we call it 'tailored suit'
mircea_popescu: on that entertainment holy grail that is 20something womyn with spider webs on their vulva
xmj: mircea_popescu: a rapper's target audience not being as privileged as he is, he has to convince them he came from the hood
mircea_popescu: since the uk doesn't have poor black people, and the indians actually have a culture of their own, unlike africans.
xmj: like j-lo trying to convince people she's still from the block.
assbot: Macklemore - White Privilege - YouTube
xmj: tho i believe that gangnam style guy was frontin'
xmj: 1595/1600 packets received (99.7%) -240.691 min / 2127.537 avg / 4237.288 max
xmj: we're moving, talk soon
jurov: inb4 "i sent the email irl"
Apocalyptic: depends if there is a nigger.txt attachement I guess
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jurov: ;;later tell nubbins` now i know what goes to b-a shirts: CHECK YOUR BITCOIN PRIVILEGE
assbot: The conference, third edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: jurov, how about you ? wanna check out the new world ?
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: better to spend a few days taking in the sights before or after conference?
mircea_popescu: well if you have the time, fly to istanbul on wed, derp around the town, fly to argentina fri, fly back wed or something
fluffypony: we'll have time, but will probably do a 2-3 week stint of South America
fluffypony: wow interestingly enough, the cheapest business class flight from Cape Town to BA seems to be Turkish Airlines
fluffypony: so may actually end up spending a few days in Istanbul anyway
fluffypony: never flown Turkish Airlines before, though - did you fly them to BA, mircea_popescu?
punkman: do they have shisha on the plane?
mircea_popescu: basically, in the 90s british ruled, but then their ceo reitred and lufthansa promoted an excellent guy as ceo
mircea_popescu: but then THAT guy retired, and meanwhile turkish took over.
punkman: it'd be nice though, could charter a jet and stock some nargiles
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2493 @ 0.00088929 = 2.217 BTC [+]
punkman: if I'm not irrelevant by March, I'd love to visit Argentina
mircea_popescu: punkman, just bring some links with you, you'l be fine
mircea_popescu: fluffypony, if you get in touch with more people coming and you all agree on a time, getting an itanbul-ba chartered jet is prolly more than feasable.
mircea_popescu: and if you find someone who doesn't need theirs that day...
mircea_popescu: o btw, if you do fly through istanbul, pay them the 20 bucks or w/e it is for priority service in airport.
fluffypony: round trip should be around $221 110 - $282 861
fluffypony: one of my friends is the CEO of Air-Tec, I'll ping him when I get a chance and find out if they have any jets available
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.47 BTC [+]
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin network difficulty > 14Bn on Bastille day"
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assbot: The conference, third edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52900 @ 0.00088877 = 47.0159 BTC [-] {3}
Naphex: will VIP include monster parties?
mircea_popescu: yeah i guess that's also a contest, who gets in the btc-cheapest.
mircea_popescu: easily best steaks i ever had, and im a ny old guard sort of guy
fluffypony: I'm with TAT, I'll hold till the July-ish spike before paying
pankkake: well, they aren't made of horses for once
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves, every other place here is a sushi joint, you'll be fine
pankkake: I hope I can make it, this is going to heavily depend on my personal situation, so I'm waiting
mircea_popescu: ahaha reading BingoBoingo's blog i find the us is actually planning to retire the a-10 ?!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 13 @ 0.019675 = 0.2558 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0975 = 0.4875 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.04954094 = 0.2477 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24121 @ 0.00089523 = 21.5938 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.034901 = 0.1047 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.46225 = 0.9245 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: "Clearly Mircea has been reading BtcAlpha and picked up some good ideas on where to invest his coin. Let's look at the risks and rewards of the fund." << mwahaha
assbot: Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 166.47902454 BTC; -0.21872334 BTC (-0.1312%) since last check 1d 20h 35m 41s ago.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00089648 = 11.1164 BTC [+]
fluffypony: from the tome of #bitcoin-otc, someone is trying to build a payment gateway or something, and wants to add anti-fraud measure in
fluffypony: "[14:16:42] kamaradski: hmm as another possibility, could i for example check the IP of the wallet and crosscheck it with the computer that is makeing the sale ?"
mircea_popescu: at least i guess now we know the guy has no idea what cold wallets are, and so if anyone ever feels like taking his half bitcoin...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00089603 = 9.9011 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0975 = 0.195 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 14 @ 0.03574 = 0.5004 BTC [+]
assbot: This Is What Happens When You Hack and Extort the ‘Bitcoin Jesus’ | Enterprise | WIRED
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00089648 = 15.5091 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves, what, a mc donalds supervisor waits in a fire door holding a laptop bag ?
mircea_popescu: “Sir, I am sincerely sorry. I am just a middleman. I was being told what to tell you,” the hacker told Ver soon after the bounty was posted, before later asking: “Are you going to order a hitman to kill me now?”
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.46031666 = 2.7619 BTC [-] {3}
ThickAsThieves: the whole article is retarded, the headline makes it out to be something more than the random event it was
ThickAsThieves: guy gets personal account hacked, blackmail fails (maybe)
ThickAsThieves: seems it wasnt even a "bitcoin" hack of a "jesus" if the hacker only asked for 37btc
mircea_popescu: i suppose i should put 100 btc on andreas' head nao, for greater lulz.
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fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: they'll send people to Romania
fluffypony: it will take some time for them to realise
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 69 @ 0.00389912 = 0.269 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: Farewell, Romania | The Whet
mircea_popescu: buncha american tourist/assasins derping about timisoara
assbot: Can you lose a fortune by mistyping a bitcoin address? (spolier: no) : Bitcoin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25579 @ 0.00089262 = 22.8323 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BitFunder] - KENILWORTH - Real World Mining Opportunity with Bitcoins
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> romania, rode hard and put away whet << ok this was pretty good.
fluffypony: "I cant afford to call Australia as I'm in Canada."
mircea_popescu: forum investor : can't call overseas. meanwhile on bitcoin assets, people are chartering jets.
pankkake: isn't calling landlines anywhere free or almost?
ThickAsThieves: yknow, i told Ukyo Kenilworth was a scam before it even listed...
pankkake: Vexual had some insight on those real mining businesses IIRC
fluffypony: I know people who run mining operations here, I would never invest in them in a million years
fluffypony: clawback is ridiculous, something like 35 years
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.1000067 = 0.3 BTC [-] {2}
fluffypony: clawback to pay off all the money they've had to spend digging and buying equipment
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.0347561 = 0.3476 BTC [-]
assbot: [BitFunder] - KENILWORTH - Real World Mining Opportunity with Bitcoins
mircea_popescu: we should be doing more humiliatory charitable things like this.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 6 @ 0.1000001 = 0.6 BTC [-]
assbot: Bani pentru piariste pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: on the condition they take a selfie with their "pr" "diploma" and sign a statement that they've wasted their time being stupid, and other such.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 25 @ 0.04954094 = 1.2385 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 25 @ 0.0196 = 0.49 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 25 @ 0.03013323 = 0.7533 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 26 @ 0.04954094 = 1.2881 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 26 @ 0.0196 = 0.5096 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 26 @ 0.03013323 = 0.7835 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.04954094 = 0.4954 BTC [-]
fluffypony: "[15:09:15] kamaradski: i will have a read on how to open a company account there"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 17 @ 0.03013323 = 0.5123 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 16 @ 0.04954094 = 0.7927 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03013323 = 0.3013 BTC [-]
assbot: Back when I was a girl I was stupid. I imagined anything that glitters is gold. - Pastebin.com
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.03013323 = 0.1808 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.04954094 = 0.1982 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.03013323 = 0.1205 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.44214124 BTC [-]
assbot: The U.S. economy shrinks, but it's not a big deal - May. 29, 2014
mircea_popescu: "our team lost every match this year. it's not a big deal"
mircea_popescu: of coursre it isn't. by now nobody gives a shit about that loser team.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.44 = 1.32 BTC [-]
assbot: Tens of thousands of Belgian savers see money disappear from their bank. : Bitcoin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16668 @ 0.0008893 = 14.8229 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00088808 = 18.028 BTC [-]
Apocalyptic: "People think it is ridiculous they have to pay tax on a gain they never made.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00088658 = 0.7979 BTC [-] {2}
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mircea_popescu: you heard it here first folks : belgium doesn't exist.
Apocalyptic: <mircea_popescu> retrospective taxing of tax free funds, back to 2008 // France has done much worse
Apocalyptic: they retrospectively taxed PEA, back to something like 9 years
jurov: they were better without govt
Apocalyptic: they just taxed life-insurance contracts at a rate of 15,5 % for every deposit after 1997
mircea_popescu: the secular economic incentives that drove it in the 1900-2000 period are just about gone.
mircea_popescu: "The January through March period often tends to be the slowest for growth, he noted, and this year, colder than usual weather stunted retail sales, international trade and the housing market."
mircea_popescu: how the fuck does cold weather stunt the housing market.
mircea_popescu: this is like hot weather stunting icecream and bikini sales.
Apocalyptic: that's the excuse placeholder they used for pretty much everything
mircea_popescu: but wasn't global warming supposed to solve that problem ?
mircea_popescu: it's like what, we're in 1860 and if it snows the horse and buggy can't get to the market so no potato sales this week ?
mircea_popescu: cold weather increases consumption. otherwise africa'd be europe and europe africa.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.0975 = 1.6575 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: but it's no fun to report "supply is exceeding demand"
mircea_popescu: the press used to be more like "the government has fucked up, which is unsurprising conjsidering the congenital retards and ordinary criminals it's made up of"
jurov: i'd understand retail as people don't like to go shopping when it's cold and dark outside, but housing?
mircea_popescu: what this bullshit they do in english is supposed to be i have no idea.
jurov: nah, better sit at home and watch tv
mircea_popescu: everyone's wrapped up to their eyebrows, local chicks hang out indoors with coat on "cause they're cold"
mircea_popescu: i have half a mind to print my collection of babes frolicking nude in snow as building sized posters and hang them up one night
mircea_popescu: prolly prop up argentina gdp a good 1% as everyone runs to buy hot coffee and fur coats.
jurov: you see. plus if you were more southerly, with shorter days...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 201 @ 0.00072019 = 0.1448 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.0347562 = 0.3476 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 786 @ 0.0007001 = 0.5503 BTC [-] {9}
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: have you read any of AnonyMint's blog posts?
assbot: Demise of Finance, Rise of Knowledge
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 1000 @ 0.00069962 = 0.6996 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: because in its purest form, knowledge can not be held in a store-of-value (a.k.a. money) and money can only represent some quantity of hard resources and manual labor.
punkman: you gotta wrap it up in a patent
punkman: then it's supposedly worth something
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.431 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.43 BTC [-]
chetty: mircea_popescu: because in its purest form, knowledge can not be held in a store-of-value (a.k.a. money) and money can only represent some quantity of hard resources and manual labor.// the folly of not having a classical education
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: ya, hilarious radio silence from crawley and coindesk. not even a reddit thread. jeez
fluffypony: bitcoinpete: you need to threaten to kill more people
bitcoinpete: i don't think crawley is popular enough that people even care
bitcoinpete: i coulda threatened him to till the cows came home
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00089116 = 10.5157 BTC [+] {2}
bitcoinpete: decimation: Montaigne was forced to learn Latin before French << this is a neat story. makes one want to explore the feasibility of this for bp jr...
bitcoinpete: joecool: today [reddit]'ll probably praise [mp] for his insight << too much humble pie for the socialist brain
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00089386 = 19.3968 BTC [+]
chetty: cool about the crab pot, I was trying to describe that a couple days ago and people didn't believe me about the crabs :)
thestringpuller: i really want a mechanical watch, something about not needing electricity to power a clock...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 36 @ 0.0197999 = 0.7128 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.03013323 = 0.2712 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 9 @ 0.04954094 = 0.4459 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00088833 = 6.7513 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37000 @ 0.00088833 = 32.8682 BTC [-]
xmj: The WiFi in FRA is even worse than in ATH.
xmj: 271/287 packets received (94.4%) 166.054 min / 4054.517 avg / 26091.449 max
chetty: asciilifeform, I think thats conf #4
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.03013323 = 0.2712 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.0197999 = 0.1782 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 9 @ 0.04954094 = 0.4459 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 117 @ 0.00411999 = 0.482 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.03013323 = 0.1205 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 15 @ 0.04954094 = 0.7431 BTC [-] {2}
chetty: asciilifeform, lol, well by #4 maybe its on mars
assbot: Peter Watts's The Scorched Earth Society: A Suicide Bomber's Guide to Online Privacy - Boing Boing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.03013324 = 0.2712 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.00412 = 0.2101 BTC [+]
assbot: User contributions for Truecrypt-end - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 21 @ 0.0197899 = 0.4156 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.0301004 = 0.2709 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 9 @ 0.04954094 = 0.4459 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9138 @ 0.00088601 = 8.0964 BTC [-]
gribble: Current Blocks: 303181 | Current Difficulty: 1.0455720138484837E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 304415 | Next Difficulty In: 1234 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 0 hours, 10 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 10944979969.1 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.67935
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 21 @ 0.0301004 = 0.6321 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.0197899 = 0.1781 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 9 @ 0.04954094 = 0.4459 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.03008924 = 0.2708 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.0197899 = 0.1781 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 9 @ 0.04954094 = 0.4459 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03 = 0.15 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.04954094 = 0.2477 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0975 = 0.2925 BTC [+]
bitcoinpete: if the bitbet bot only posts >1 btc bets, assbot should only post >1 btc trades
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21606 @ 0.00088596 = 19.1421 BTC [-]
mike_c: hm. this is bitcoin-assets, not gamblers anonymous :)
mike_c: trades are a bit more important than bets.
bitcoinpete: mike_c: are trades on havelock different than bets now?
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user bitstein has been recorded.
mike_c: trades on everything are no different than bets. but still.
bitcoinpete: mike_c: right, so if we're cutting down spam, let's cut it down
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.04954094 = 0.2972 BTC [-]
assbot: "Andreas M Antonopoulos," part of my new series of art work. : Bitcoin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.0197899 = 0.1187 BTC [-]
bitcoinpete: if mp comes back to twitter, that's his new background
bitstein: The zeros look like sperm. It's unsettling.
bitcoinpete: how can the us not even fudge data anymore
assbot: Thomas Piketty’s Capital hailed as an unread classic
bitstein: “Put it next to my Malcolm Gladwells, The God Delusion and that Steve Jobs biography and bang, I’m a fucking polymath."
fluffypony: this is not a very fun cult, I'm already bored with its self-appointed leadership
bitcoinpete: fluffypony: then let's have a thai-stylez coup!
jurov: fluffypony: no place for satoshi in the pantheon?
fluffypony: bitcoinpete: I'll chief weapon is surprise...
chetty: satoshi would probably be banned
gribble: Error: "lastlog" is not a valid command.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00088601 = 2.658 BTC [+]
moiety: i broke my irc client! i don't even remember how this one works properly
moiety: also, that's an amazing cat fluffypony!! :o I'll have to train marvin to play poker or monopoly to compete
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.19062341 BTC to 9`109 shares, 24049 satoshi per share
assbot: Argentina's Central Bank Issues Warning to Burgeoning Bitcoin Ecosystem
chetty: He explained that in countries like Argentina, Venezuela and Nicaragua, with their closed economies and strict financial controls: “Those are the markets where bitcoin volatility actually looks really good!”
benkay: man i pay no attention to irc for a day and MOUNTAINS of text emerge
artifexd: I'm 3 days behind and feel the exact same thing.
benkay: i was out for dinner with a DoD guy last night and marvelling at what darpa flushes down the drain
benkay: "here kid! 100M! 3 years! here's your contact at boeing, your contact at raytheon, and a list of smarty pants software folk we like into whose maw you should flush those fresh greenbacks!"
benkay: don't talk to me about sterilization, ben.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 49 @ 0.003923 = 0.1922 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.42200002 = 6.752 BTC [-] {3}
benkay: i'm game for a chartered plane from istanbul.
fluffypony: ok well Paramount Business Jets are putting together a more comprehensive quote
benkay: <mircea_popescu> pity we're not more advanced, i'd like to buy them // two years? three?
benkay: <mircea_popescu> ... assassins // nice
fluffypony: they reckon that 12-14 people is optimal
benkay: <pankkake> Vexual had some insight on those real mining businesses IIRC // lolwut
xmj: benkay: can I borrow your bullshit detector for a second?
benkay: har well the lease on that thing ain't going to pay itself
benkay: but we can settle up later - hit me
assbot: Johannes Meixner | Introduction
xmj: i've essentially cut out all the details formerly listed and replaced it with nebulous blaaa
benkay: all i really want to see are code samples
xmj: yeah, not what I care about
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 24 @ 0.02915904 = 0.6998 BTC [-] {8}
xmj: I am interested in determining if it's bullshit and nebulous enough
benkay: i'd strip out rules for life
pankkake: xmj: you replaced your 4K GPG key by a 2K one?!
assbot: Darkcoin Price in Turmoil Following Emergency Fork, Network Issues
benkay: not really triggering my bullshit radar
benkay: but i'm biased, you've corrupted my thinger
xmj: pankkake: I replaced a broken 4K key which I couldn't use to encrypt things, yes.
xmj: benkay: anchoring is easy
fluffypony: asciilifeform: the dev is an idiot, tho
xmj: pankkake: 2K was recommended by a *very* paranoid person as "good enough"
assbot: Search results for '0x496a9d706250d402'
pankkake: yes, it probably doesn't matter, but the replacement was surprising
xmj: benkay: I mostly use it to make others believe a mail was sent by me.
xmj: and for this purpose.. 2K is "good enough"
benkay: and just in time for client calls
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.42200004 = 4.22 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.42121071 = 3.7909 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.421 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29200 @ 0.00088696 = 25.8992 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.42200129 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4211 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: I guess I'm going to try to get in on this waiting game of go to the conference for the BTC cheapest. Maybe I'll be able to set aside a couple months and hoof it there.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I haven't checked paths yet. Was just planning on waking south and improving my spanish.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.029 = 0.145 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Sorry, you came on just at the end of my being awake.
jurov: lol andreas schildbach is just leaking "Mycelium Entropy" rng for printing paper wallets
jurov: most likely satanic
BingoBoingo: jurov: Satoshi probably fits into the trinity as Casper the Holy ghost.
jurov: correction: it's andreas petersson not schildbach
jurov: curent slide "Using TOR for DDoS protection"
jurov: mycelium wants to hide their proprietary server behind tor as ddos mitigation? good luck
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.421 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0975 = 0.975 BTC [+]
assbot: BMF has lost access to it's wallet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19962 @ 0.00088833 = 17.7328 BTC [+]
pankkake: I really hate usagi's attitude of never blaming itself
BingoBoingo: Right, and his building a webwallet fetish. Maybe Tradefortress was just Usagi having a couple of lucid months?
fluffypony: pankkake: right? because every single Bitcoin n00b post on Bitcointalk and Reddit advocates multiple backups of wallet.dat, how does he now know this?
pankkake: it's just the basics of backups. keep it offsite and preferrably offline. he had neither
pankkake: it's understandable to lose your own stuff, but when you manage others money, you should take every precaution
BingoBoingo: And once again there's the whole why was the wallet on a fucking server problem.
Apocalyptic: ;;rate usagi -2 shouldn't handle other's people money
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -2 for user usagi has been recorded.
Apocalyptic: ;;rate usagi -2 shouldn't handle other people's money
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user usagi has changed from -2 to -2.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00089417 = 20.2977 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: asciilifeform every played with cadr emulator? i keep crashing the thing.
pankkake: I refuse to post in self moderated threads
kakobrekla: asciilifeform you mean the code that the found on the tapes or something else
Apocalyptic: fluffypony, I highly suspect your post won't last long
kakobrekla: asciilifeform does it work any better or is it not public
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 567.45, Best ask: 569.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.55000, Last trade: 567.45, 24 hour volume: 8788.36962058, 24 hour low: 560.05, 24 hour high: 582.1, 24 hour vwap: 570.384690245
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jurov: asciilifeform yes he shown it without dover, it's the atmel
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25841 @ 0.00088945 = 22.9843 BTC [-]
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 567.9, Best ask: 568.82, Bid-ask spread: 0.92000, Last trade: 567.9, 24 hour volume: 8783.17094660, 24 hour low: 560.05, 24 hour high: 582.1, 24 hour vwap: 570.381638655
jurov: what about brazilian men?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 131 @ 0.00200609 = 0.2628 BTC [-] {5}
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.029 = 0.377 BTC [-]
chetty: <jurov> what about brazilian men?// men are as rare here as anywhere else in the world
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete: i don't think crawley is popular enough that people even care << i had no idea the guy existed before you wrote.
mircea_popescu: "Battle rapping is a somewhat popular hip-hop subculture in the US and Canada, but mostly unrepresented in North Florida." << til nf is not in the us o rcanada
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pr diploma << wtf!? << they have this in ro.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: buenos aires? no patagonian yurts? no oncifelis? << do you want internet o sin internet.
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mircea_popescu: xmj, world's best is esl nonsense. make it world's foremost
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I haven't checked paths yet. Was just planning on waking south and improving my spanish. << i think if you start now you coul dprolly hike to buenos aires
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 97 @ 0.00417 = 0.4045 BTC [+]
chetty: saw a guy here recently that came on a motorcycle from Alaska
diametric: asciilifeform: discussing traveling to AR?
diametric: how american does he look. I'm very american looking and sounding. I'm not sure I'd survive such a trip.
chetty: yeah the Darien Gap (Panama to Colombia)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22750 @ 0.00088732 = 20.1865 BTC [-]
chetty: this guy took a boat for that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49400 @ 0.00088735 = 43.8351 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I am actually thinking I might be able to depart as late as January if I concede to taking the occasional bus.
BingoBoingo: diametric: I tend to survive on the strength of my beard
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nubbins`: ;;later tell jurov nevermind your privilege, check your cold wallet ;D
BingoBoingo: Now nubbins` is a person I could see having issues making the overland trip, living in the continent's cold storage as he does.
nubbins`: i live on an island, my options for overland trips are quite limited
nubbins`: besides, the Send An Artist To The Conference Fund currently sits at 0 BTC
nubbins`: (and i'll have you know it's a balmy 5C today)
BingoBoingo: Fuku Google maps, can't calculate directions between St Louis and Buenos Aires.
diametric: does it have you canoeing doing the Mississippi river
BingoBoingo: diametric: They refuse to calculate the trip.
BingoBoingo: It's like Google and Bing want to keep people here.
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BingoBoingo: Google apparently only takes people further from freedom
fluffypony: nubbins`: we have a phrase for the b-a t-shirts
fluffypony: "Check your Bitcoin privilege", I believe it was
benkay: i'm not wearing a white t with black letters on it
BingoBoingo: Then again so is US "Disney Reprogramming Camp"
BingoBoingo: High School Classmate once did "Summer Work Program" there, was never the same again.
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nubbins`: benkay who wants to wear a white tee, anyway
nubbins`: now a black tee with white letters, on the other hand..
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: People in warmer climates tend to develop aversions to black tees during the summer months.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15750 @ 0.00089456 = 14.0893 BTC [+] {2}
mike_c: BingoBoingo: colombia is the problem.
mike_c: it'll give you directions through panama, and then from ecuador to BA
mike_c: but google doesn't do colombia
mike_c: Looks like 7500 miles plus whatever it takes to get through colombia. you better leave now!
nubbins`: fun fact, you can't travel overland to south america
nubbins`: the darien gap between panama and colombia is generally considered impassable
nubbins`: you can get a boat from panama to a town in colombia called Turbo, but even that is pretty sketchy
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16159 @ 0.0008868 = 14.3298 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: This Darien gap I sounding like the one part of the trip at least that I might want to try committing to crossing on foot.
BingoBoingo: (loaded up with substantial amounts of malarone and ivermectin of course)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8941 @ 0.00088555 = 7.9177 BTC [-]
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jurov: peter surda seriously considers reporting his cryptostocks trades and dividends to autrian tax authority
jurov: those austrians....
mircea_popescu: diametric: how american does he look. I'm very american looking and sounding. I'm not sure I'd survive such a trip. << on the positive side, if you do survive it, you'd be looking normal.
mircea_popescu: jurov, well, he;s a theoretical economist like right ?
chetty: "how american does he look.", its not the look its the smell that gives you away as american
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: besides, the Send An Artist To The Conference Fund currently sits at 0 BTC << now this is unfair.
chetty: well after a couple years out of us I could tell americans by smell
nubbins`: mircea_popescu tell me about it ;(
nubbins`: (there ain't no courtroom-style sketches of participants)
nubbins`: slippery and with occasional stray hairs stuck to it?
BingoBoingo: Darien Gap keeps sounding more and more funwww.justiciaypazcolombia.com/Se-intensifican-operaciones.html
chetty: asciilifeform, nope its from the high chemical content of the food, you can smell the preservatives most americans eat all the time
mike_c: plus we shower more than once a week
assbot: Argentine Bitcoiners brush off Central Bank warning - I Have Bitcoins
fluffypony: and there's a central bank warning about Bitcoin
mircea_popescu: i guess usagi is the finest example that mere age in the space counts for nothing,
mircea_popescu: he was being loled at by mpoe-pr and deprived FOR EXACTLY THE SAME REASONS 3 years ago
mircea_popescu: "*shrug* Thanks for your opinion, but you don't know what you are talking about. Try designing a web wallet sometime. You need to keep what happened here in perspective. You are flying off the handle at me because someone spilled coffee on a raid "
mircea_popescu: that's a summary of 80% or so of what the power rangers have to say
BingoBoingo: RAID is not a backup or data protection strategy
mike_c: how would he know it was coffee unless he did the spilling! get your broomsticks.
BingoBoingo: I'm a pretty big fan of just a bunch of disks
BingoBoingo: Varying capacities, models, and manufacturers.
BingoBoingo: The stuff that makes most RAID setups complain.
BingoBoingo: Just the summer after highschool working in a data recovery shop back in the early 0's turned me off of the raid concept
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5055 @ 0.00088555 = 4.4765 BTC [-]
joecool: BingoBoingo: mixed batches work better in the long run, i had a batch of 4 WD drives from the same lot, 100% failure rate in about a year
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: ok so he'd need to split it into a bunch of 1.44mb ZIP files
mircea_popescu: mixed batches same model is the way to go ya. and platter not ssd
joecool: then again i also like mdraid over most hw raid
BingoBoingo: (Atm my storage longevity strategy in the portable involves an SSD with substantial unallocated space for firmware to fall over into
joecool: so it's very tolerant of what you throw at it
BingoBoingo: For less portable things I just sync directories across disks
joecool: BingoBoingo: do you actually set up the reserved space with hdparm or just leave free space?
BingoBoingo: joecool: I generally just leave freespace and hope for the best.
joecool: same, wasn't aware you could tell the firmware to reserve space until recently
joecool: asciilifeform: well HD's can have that issue too, just not super common
joecool: logic board used to toast on certain older models, then you needed an exact donor and cross fingers to recover
joecool: but yeah sure, raid is cheap insurance, much cheaper than data recovery
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That is the big concern, but... It's the portable so only space for one internal disk.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It is. It doesn't get the good secrets.
joecool: the good stuff i keep offline or on other devices (ie. my pgp keys are on smartcard), media i keep on my server and access it wherever with sshfs
joecool: never saw the need to have a TB of space in a laptop
BingoBoingo might need to get a still more expendable portable for next year when crossing the Darien and evading FARC
joecool: i was just going to say that
joecool: asciilifeform: you pack the thermite inside and have a way to trigger ignition?
BingoBoingo: Oh, I was thinking bag of thermite inside laptop opposite logic board and storage. Kensington lock slot repurosed for inserting a sparking striker which is then turned like a key
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.0008852 = 31.8672 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Wait, does noone else have asbestos pad protecting their desk?
mike_c: probably tough to get it through security as well
jurov: why not go full way with nuclear device?
jurov: mutually assured destruction ftw
BingoBoingo: jurov: nuclear device emits on the spectrum, can be located. Aluminum and rust not so much.
kakobrekla: but the you dont get too see the view from gasenwagon
BingoBoingo: Mr. Officer you shoudn't have startled the laptop like that.
joecool: buy a sony, less questions asked
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 14 @ 0.029 = 0.406 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00088481 = 12.2989 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.0008848 = 17.9614 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: so the story with tc is now confirmed fucked?
mike_c: ah. it's pathetic, but tc == techcrunch to my brain. of course, it has been confirmed fucked for a long time.
joecool: kakobrekla: i thought it was the case for a couple years now, or is this a case of rumors turning into fact?
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kakobrekla: rumors or not it was considered a standard.
mike_c: kakobrekla: sorry, i meant techcrunch has been confirmed fucked for a long time :)
diametric: nobody knows for sure, but for the truly paranoid, its best to stay away.
diametric: this whole thing feels like lavabit
diametric: but likely with more waterboarding
kakobrekla: good thing i donated a week ago. now im on the list of supporters err i mean terrorist.
joecool: kakobrekla: prepare to receive a dose of freedom
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.0353997 = 0.1062 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 12 @ 0.0353999 = 0.4248 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34000 @ 0.0008848 = 30.0832 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.03420017 = 0.1026 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 25 @ 0.00511 = 0.1278 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0.00021726 / 0.00021726 / 0.00021726 (8000 shares, 1.74 BTC), 7D: 0.00021726 / 0.00021726 / 0.00021726 (9529 shares, 2.07 BTC), 30D: 0.000215 / 0.00021529 / 0.00021726 (1162009 shares, 250.17 BTC)
Apocalyptic: <CyrusV> any romanians out there? trying to let you guys know about #bitcoin-romania
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.00552506 = 0.1105 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: The CoinFront Andreas Antonopolous Threatened With Murder Over Twitter | The CoinFront | Bitcoin News
fluffypony: needs to be the header on Trilema on May 28th each year
fluffypony: "The exorbitant membership fee, 30 BTC, coupled with the fact that their twitter account hasn't been touched since last June, suggests that the exchange is defunct, or at least no longer being actively promoted. "
fluffypony: every stock exchange in the world has an active Twitter account
mircea_popescu: "Brad Edwards is a professional blogger with work published on many different platforms. Writing on a wide range of topics, from digital marketing to new music to health and nutrition, Brad's interest in Bitcoin and monetary reform is part of what inspired the genesis of The CoinFront. W"
mircea_popescu: i guess the part where professional = being paid has kinda gone away past decade or so huh
mircea_popescu: i'm a professional shitter, with shits flushed in many different toilets over 5 continents
mike_c: a dozen 50 word posts a day. my idol.
mircea_popescu: anyway, in wha tfucking world 30 btc is exorbitant ? srsly nao
mircea_popescu: there's 13mn bit coins sloshing around, and these twerps with 10 btc between them dare speak ?
benkay: mircea_popescu: where did you find good sushi?
nubbins`: only australia and antarctica evade me
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0975 = 0.195 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I though gooks were more southeast asian.
BingoBoingo: Koreans are moons, Japs are just Japs, occasionally slants
nubbins`: as it happens, "ars gratia artis" is very, very common in japan
nubbins`: hang around harajuku bridge on a sunday, i dare ya to find a hat laid out
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 28 @ 0.02807619 = 0.7861 BTC [-] {9}
nubbins`: wait, you're not allowed to express your personal values in public? ;(
mircea_popescu: anyway, i want something between ignore and marry. like a pat on the butt or something you know ?
jurov: .fail and .wtf TLDs launching, anyone?
nubbins`: perhaps a brief word of appreciation
mircea_popescu: nubbins`, interrupting a performance to note my mostly irrelevant appreciation seems too out of character.
nubbins`: applause helps, if you can stand to wait til the end
mircea_popescu: money tho. i mean i get it, they're discreet, they don't ask for it, they don't do it for the money etc. im fine with al lthat.
nubbins`: maybe this is their day job, and also their recreation
mike_c: some people take money as an insult. pro tip: don't ever try to bribe a hawaiian.
mike_c: me neither. it was odd.
mircea_popescu: they'll fuck up spectacularly and pretend like they didn't.
nubbins`: i think your venn diagram needs adjusting
mircea_popescu: anyway, going to bother more locals and gorge on more sushi
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.45387926 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34500 @ 0.00088521 = 30.5397 BTC [+] {3}
Namworld: When are governments going to enter the 21st century?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 71 @ 0.00421404 = 0.2992 BTC [+] {2}
Namworld: I'd swear they're still stuck a few decades in the past.
dub: I'm waiting for someone to build the bitcoin like consensus network for electoral systems
dub: use it to push out the decision making though
Naphex: mircea_popescu: so how is security in argentina, vs Timisoara?
assbot: One weird trick to boost your country's GDP overnight: Count drugs and prostitution.
assbot: Buttcoiner paints a graven image of Andreas - possible breach of the Buttcoin commandments : Buttcoin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52948 @ 0.00088832 = 47.0348 BTC [+] {3}
Naphex: ass raped by jquery?:o
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Naphex: i just woke up, 30mins ago:P
Naphex: still bit through the flu
Naphex takes pills, doubles down, kills it with a shot of whiskey
Naphex has a fit, breaks some classes. Passes out, very manly
punkman: I had a nice 3 hour siesta
punkman: but that's too much, messes with the schedule
HeySteve: <+thestringpuller> real men don't faint
HeySteve: <+thestringpuller> they *black* out <-fixed!
HeySteve: and on that note, it's whisky time!
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dub: Ardbeg day on saturday
assbot: UltraCoin: The Great Financial Disintermediator - YouTube
punkman: "a virtual Goldman Sachs on top of Bitcoin"
punkman: "basically I'm building a more efficient financial system"
dub: is that the rest of that deathbylolipop guys face?
HeySteve: that guy is trying to patent certain types of smart contract, real dick move if you ask me
punkman: just saw a freelance ad he posted, should probably dig the logs for previous discussion
HeySteve: that's not the way we do things in FOSS, Reggie >:(
punkman: he can patent all his crap what do we care
HeySteve: yeah, it's just really cheeky and irritating
assbot: Payment Processors, Patents and a Dollop of Healthy Paranoia
HeySteve: Ultracoin seems to aim at similar things as Open Transactions
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.0342001 = 0.1368 BTC [-]