mircea_popescu: "How do I use SSL encryption properly?" "SSL (resp. TLS, as SSL v2/v3 is already broken but name SSL is commonly used for TLS protocol) implementation or protocol itself isn't affected"
ben_vulpes: b-but mircea_popescu how is one supposed to authenticate to a database server over the webternet?
mircea_popescu: that doesn;t tell me anything. do you personalyl know him ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so far doing the whole "hey guise i can google plox like me" schtick which is getting on my nerves.
ben_vulpes: Framedragger also guilty of this in spades
CompanionCube: Very well. Be seeing you if and when you succeed at your goals.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi when "i can't commit to existing" became socially acceptable. we used to laugh at the drones who couldn't commit to mariage 30 years ago, then i fell asleep in front of the silver screen post blowjob and i wake up... suddenly it's everywhere.
mircea_popescu: "who are you ?" "sorry i can't say because really i want to be a dragon and you'll laugh."
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: it's the safe and easy space in between "i am a gentoo nerd and have an irc bouncer" and "i am willing to undertake gpg key mgmt as the basis of identity"
ben_vulpes: doesn't strike me as a "needs" thing. will be a "can" thing for as long as mircea_popescu refrains from turning the lights on and setting +i or whichever arcane fleanode flag
ben_vulpes: for as long as randos can join #trilema and lurk they will do so instead of reading the logs
ben_vulpes: who knows if they even read their bouncer's scrollback instead of cycling through fifteen channels marking them as read in some inane, personal score-keeping game
mircea_popescu: afaik this is common. here's where mp shares a little personal tidbit :
mircea_popescu: the slavegirls are rarely solo when we meet. generally they're in a committed relationship / engaged / whatever. about half the time the beta in question is the "graduate student" type who compulsively answers questions on quora etc.
ben_vulpes: may i have a concrete pointer s'il vous plait?
mircea_popescu: all i'm sayin' is that as batshing insane as it may sound on the face, i have personal experience with the ample supply of "cycling through fifteen channels marking them as read in some inane, personal score-keeping game".
ben_vulpes: more on the "compulsively answers questions on quora"
mircea_popescu: "i did 9k wikipedia spelling corrections this year" "you mean the year gaping as a hole in your employment history ?" "oh, that's not important. progress! revolution! everything is connected! ubi!"
mircea_popescu: !~google "the promise, eagerly offered, the hope, eagerly swallowed"
ben_vulpes: i watched some related lols play out with 'poly' friends this year. $girl couldn't bring herself to break it off with her wikipedia editor, $guy didn't offer the platform to which to jump or demand the jump, tension built and $girl doubled down on the socialistoid anxiety production machines to everyone's dismay
mircea_popescu: in fact i expect it's the principal engine powering the sjtarded jeneration.
mircea_popescu: (romanian pun, trading on the difference between jenant ie pathetic and generation ie whatever)
phf: i've met him on another irc channel where he was equally non-contributing to an overall low snr. i was curious if he will maybe step up here, but nope doing exactly the same thing. the whole thing is reminiscent of the catv, a channel full of companioncubes
mircea_popescu: well maybe the experience of gazing upon the stony face of his father that he never had will promote some personal growth.
mircea_popescu: either that or masturbatory fantasies of an "improved trilema" with "moar freedom" of the "our democracy" type.
ben_vulpes: i biked by a gaggle of old women doing precisely this a few weeks ago
ben_vulpes: hey who wants to tell me that biking fucked my back up
doppler: I wonder how many wikipedia editors are elderly women
mircea_popescu: i expect about half are white, unsexed, males in their 30s +- 8 years.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes go swimming moar bike less. and if you do bike, do 15% inclines rather than long bs.
ben_vulpes: well there's a whole world of coordination i've never really explored
mircea_popescu: i have nfi what they do for healthcare where you live, but swimming is the thing for bad backs like fucking is the thing for pimples.
ben_vulpes: you pay a shitload of money and then try to never make a claim
ben_vulpes: make friends with girls in nursing school is probably the only mitigating strat
mircea_popescu: this is the third fucking flask i buy, set some alcohol in, and it rots.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is so hard about making a surgical steel flask rather than obscure zamaks
mircea_popescu: i suppose the rotguts they drink don't suffer or something
mircea_popescu: incidentally, it's somewhat sad how the mainstreamization of "polyamorous" became "i'm too worthless to demand the girl and will use being too poor as an excuse to notice how stupid i am".
mircea_popescu: for the record, bums with no income and college degrees living in squalor aren't "participating in a polyamorous lifestyle".
deedbot: gabriel_laddel_p voiced for 30 minutes.
gabriel_laddel_p:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-24#1632244 < people are going to want their emacs configs anyways while they make the transition & there is still a lot of functionality to be stolen from the sources. Also, emacs is an editor, so you can fix CLIM issues while it is frozen, which one could not with a "x11 window".
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-03-24 03:17 phf: my solutions to problems like that don't usually involve "bring in a 40mb package". i'd write a top level handler, that shows a modal x11 based repl/restart machinery. sort of poor man's genera
phf: gabriel_laddel_p: people can also figure out how to install emacs if they need to. creating artificial restriction like that ensures that ~you~ while developing get exposed to the kind of annoyances that you should address first.
phf: clime for example shouldn't be global frozen, whether or not you have an emacs to fall back to.
mircea_popescu: can anyone explain to me why the "browser" is a different item from this editor btw ?
mircea_popescu: there's apparently a history of having an "editor" for files ; and an "editor" for internets and yet another editor for debugging the smashed system (mostly used to "develop" or "code"). what again is the rationale ?
gabriel_laddel_p: mircea_popescu: Climacs does, and thus will become a "browser" networked-sorta-thing.
mircea_popescu: because there's definitely no fucking difference between "your x.org cant' come up would you like to fiddle with settings see if you can fix it" and "i am not happy with how my computer does oral sex will write a better procedure for it")
mircea_popescu: i will point out vlc has a "ascii art display", you can watch the godfather trilogy rendered in ascii. "so what's your excuse" follows immediately.
☟︎ gabriel_laddel_p: mircea_popescu: you can drop arbitrary objects into a climacs buffer, sorta like the DOM. you can operate on them according to their type, which is what SVG has been trying to do all along
phf: fwiw emacs has a browser builtin
gabriel_laddel_p: phf: text browser. and yes, emacs can do images, but has no notion of x,y coordinates. Also, lack of threading.
mircea_popescu: "your car has a car built in." "is this because it's a shitty car ?" "no, we just do things that way."
☟︎ phf: i'm not my brother's keeper!
phf: i'm unprepared to pursue the whys and hows of the field, and there's usually no escaping it with your "idle questions". so i'll just concede, the whole thing is idiotic.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-29 22:30 asciilifeform: re shortages, lulzy trend in washington region of building block after block after block of cardboard condo towers ~which then stand dark, for years on end~ continues
a111: Logged on 2017-04-15 04:14 mircea_popescu: "your car has a car built in." "is this because it's a shitty car ?" "no, we just do things that way."
a111: Logged on 2017-04-15 04:08 mircea_popescu: i will point out vlc has a "ascii art display", you can watch the godfather trilogy rendered in ascii. "so what's your excuse" follows immediately.
BingoBoingo: It reads perfectly clear: Scammers Scamming Scammers, aka marketing wank
ben_vulpes: oh shame, cohen got embroiled in shit?
a111: Logged on 2017-04-13 17:39 mircea_popescu: how is this supporting "Sinus flushing" as opposed to, i dunno, "used to wash up pre anal sex" ?
ben_vulpes: hey you know what's great fun at the strip club? find the girls whose rodeo this is not their first and heckle the noobs.
ben_vulpes: i found the strip club where bottoms stay on and hey what do you know, average dancer expertise is through the roof
ben_vulpes: i mean heckle subtly, from the booths. with eyes and conversation.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: commodity pdx strip clubs have an utterly inane rhythm. 3 dances: first sorta-clothed, second no top, third no bottoms.
mircea_popescu: as in bare cunt or as in "this is the designated 2nd underwear we take off"
ben_vulpes: also 2 decades of right to die, but that's neither here nor there
ben_vulpes: glorious socialist utopia of pac nw: best water, bare cunts and right to die
ben_vulpes: anyways, this particular club of its own accord mandates bottoms at all times. result is that the dancers are of markedly higher dancing quality than girls in the clubs up the street, charging 5x cover.
ben_vulpes: upon consideration it's probably just observation bias from asking "so whose dancing do you like"
phf: oddly enough, those are usually free
ben_vulpes: i'm playing with how much they'll do in the club for how little this year
mircea_popescu: phf from his 5x comment i gathered it's one of those cheaper joints where they don't make money out of table service and charge per the bj
phf: ... are you ircing from a club?
ben_vulpes: i got two of the established girls to clear one of the minor's booths for the three of us this evening! for a whole set! for less than the cost of a single song in the vip room!
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: not really a squeeze, "no, come on. we'll grab a side stage. you've been great just come along."
mircea_popescu: so you save fiddy bux that'd have paid her rent in the time you don't cost the usg 10k ? umm
ben_vulpes: well from the cause of "i was just watching but okay" and not towards the purpose of "how much for how little"
ben_vulpes: "vip" rates are "30 us per song with no touching", "ultra vip" rates are "100/10 min and maybe we let you touch something", ben_vulpes rates are "just sit down and tip like normal and we'll writhe all over you for reasons"
shinohai: "Happy Birthday from Tgirl Forums! - Shemale Reviews & TS Discussion. Please join today and meet a Tgirl in <PROXY>"
shinohai: ooh ty asciilifeform good fodder, i was just writing shitcoin satutarday, etc
trinque: ^ alrighty, got the thing with a suitable fee, works reliably again
trinque: I'm kicking the cron back on
trinque: got away with a 0.0001 fee for nearly the whole life of deedbot to date. cannot confirm a transaction with less than 0.0005 now.
trinque: this is good for bitcoin (TM) (R)
mircea_popescu: incidentally Framedragger , do you have a working theory as why he didn't say "decentralized systems lab plagiarized #trilema" ?
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: "oh, it's because there's a borisov at urbana" ? "alf likes red" ? what is it. gotta have a theory, even if it turns out to be a wrong theory.
mircea_popescu: (but if anyone in teh esteemed lordship wants to congratulate the three faculty members on doing good work and invite them over, that'd be nice.)
mircea_popescu: !!v 7F4FC35B6C4F4AE4DF73FD02CF89CD0B7A0AB35E7D5DE257E000DC46E7BD27C0
deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of shinohai from 2 to 3 << The Right Honorable Baron Titsbare
mircea_popescu: !!v C44126DDFA443E0DEED8F35DA0F93E2F9EE383812AF625E807B385A0277932B4
deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of Framedragger from 4 to 4 << His Lordship the Lord Scanner
mircea_popescu: !!v 672E514D837A94A4C7B7ACF7E39CD61C464C24ECCA00E1E79431C5EDE52C8E60
deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of ben_vulpes from 4 to 4 << His Lordship the Lord of the Well
mircea_popescu: trinque could deedbot get a !!seen which would return the top line of the last otp the nick in question responded correctly to ?
mircea_popescu: as a model !!seen mircea_popescu now would yield "<deedbot> mircea_popescu RATE ben_vulpes 4 His Lordship the Lord of the Well Sat Apr 15 08:25:39 CST 2017" or somesuch. link rather than timestamp would also work well.
mircea_popescu: i got no argument, because the only possible argument would be "need better glyphs". isn't it strange that for all the crazy batshit nonsense including waterguns and whatnot utf put in, there isn't a "255 chars optimized for ascii rendering of stills" ?
doppler: my current favorite is U+1F574
doppler: "man in business suit levitating"
a111: Logged on 2017-04-15 14:09 mircea_popescu: incidentally Framedragger , do you have a working theory as why he didn't say "decentralized systems lab plagiarized #trilema" ?
mircea_popescu: Framedragger does raver chicks eh. shoulda figured, britain.
Framedragger: funnily this one wasn't british, the latter are usually just plain..boring, man. maybe i can't find ways to excite them. but their minds, blergh
Framedragger: this time was like "she wants sex i just want to listen to her mind maaaan"
mircea_popescu: my sister went to denmark, married romanian she found there. it's a thing, this.
mircea_popescu: Creep home, and take your place there, the spent and maimed among ; God grant you find one face there, you loved when all was young.
Framedragger: mmm. this will..recur, some decades later, in mind, i'm sure
mircea_popescu also has cousin, went to germany to get married, ended up marrying romanian dude she met on the flight back. dude grew up literally across the hill from her.
Framedragger: maybe sometimes just need that new-environment-kick/vibe to shift perspective. or maybe just hard, yeah
mircea_popescu: human sexuality is possibly the most complex mechanism in all creation.
mircea_popescu: by comparison intelligence is relatively straightforward.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> my sister went to denmark, married romanian she found there. it's a thing, this. <- this is the sort of thing I keep noticing and can't yet explain beyond "people basically get homesick - they went abroad for it being rich, not for them not suffering the poor ways at home"
mircea_popescu: i think it's the ever-classical prime-fire mechanism. they go away from home to get horny and then they seek a guy just like home to take care of it.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman btw do you know the "just like mom used to make" joke ?
diana_coman: no or don't recall it; I being apparently an exception to that thing, I'm still trying to digest it
mircea_popescu: gal finds guy and falls in love. they get married an' all is well!
mircea_popescu: except, gal is also a renowed cook, won contests and shit. so obviously she cooks for the guy, and he likes it and all, but... well... it's not like mom used to make.
mircea_popescu: girl goes nuts, spends a while trying everything. nothing catches. eventually has enough of the shit, stops caring, one day burns the food.
diana_coman: this is why I said earlier: they left for the "rich opportunities" not because "I can't stand this shit!"
mircea_popescu: this, of course, from an alt-world where people don't esl and mothers cook or hang.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman conceivably they left because nuclear family inhibited sexual maturation.
mircea_popescu: people aren't really made to be wolves. this nonsense of "apartments", man+woman+kids dun work irl.
mircea_popescu: there's gotta be woods to run dogs in and maids quarters to ravish maids in and stables to roll the peasantry in the hay and etcetera.
diana_coman: hm, to me it sounds more that it's a case of "this nonsense of forcing peasantry and maids and dogs and whatnots to have their own apartments dun work"
mircea_popescu: too much partitioning with inadequately semi-permeable membranes
Framedragger: trinque: wot.deedbot.org older ratings (from #bitcoin-otc et al.) gone? they were there just before. or is this intended?
Framedragger: ah they're not gone from e.g. mp's page (but gone from mine). anyway, no rush / low priority (!!wot gives the full thing anyway)
mod6: So I collected 1.2Gb worth of data from FG. Which for the Advanced test I don't think would be a problem... about to do the `ent` & `dieharder` tests.
mod6: asciilifeform: this is ok ya? ^
mod6: yeah, i made a blog of all the basic results so far, complete with pics & thumbnails.
mod6: i'll include the advanced test parts before publication.
mod6: cool. running dieharder now.
mod6: my blog will cover everything from step 1-4
mod6: well, i even added the unboxing pics in there too.
mod6: also, 406K+ blocks eaten, and into blk0032 nao
mircea_popescu: if you build a fictious world that is flat, which is to say, the opposite of tmsr, a world in which it dun matter who your daddy is and any $random-nick can have any idea whatosever,
mircea_popescu: it then necessarily follows that existence is predicated not on existence but on speech.
mircea_popescu: since in such a world any reasoning is conventionally impossible (as it'd enact hierarchy and bring the daddy issues they ran from in the first place front and center)
mircea_popescu: it then follows that any speech is fundamentally equivalent to any other speech, and a volume of speech is a minimum requisite for existence at all times.
mircea_popescu: we can checkpoint here and verify that this is a correct model by observing how exactly it predicts us-like "academia".
mircea_popescu: now, in this situation, random item with delusions of agency (in "our democracy" terms "a person") is stuck with the following problem :
trinque: Framedragger: maybe when I fixed the data for yours a few days / week ago, I fixed it too hard
trinque: going to be out today; I'll take a look soon
mircea_popescu: given the list of all the things that have been said already (this is really a tree, but in his perspective it's flattened into a list by nulling out all the values associated with the string nodes), his choice is :
☟︎ trinque: I have all the original data
mircea_popescu: either say something that's not in the list and get the points for existence found in the saying ; or say something already on the list, for less points.
mircea_popescu: as there's no OTHER dampener of the existence points outside of this scheme, you are guaranteed that in a flat world all the things will be said (and none of the things will be listened to)
mircea_popescu: consequently, vice finds it +ev in those terms to maintain an item spuriously named "motherboard" in which to publish stuff like "the wallet collider consisting of a guy plucking wings off flies and dropping the maimed insect carcasses on his exposed glans penis."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform vice is literally, precisely and exactly a google spam device, like taboola or whatever.
mircea_popescu: anyway. this is what i currently use to epxlain random string production, like "motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/the-large-bitcoin-collider-is-generating-trillions-of-keys-and-breaking-into-wallets" or like
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-14#1643409 or everything in between
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-04-14 02:23 asciilifeform: 'Mircea Popescu stole a large amount of BTC from BitBet.us prior to this...' << lol
mircea_popescu: note, for extra lulz, that they are STILL "disagreeing" with "mp raped ethereum", no matter how well established that is. even as they are pushing the "mp stole from bitbet", no matter how ridoinculously unsupportable thart one is. why is this ?
mircea_popescu: for reasons of abhoring vacuum. the ethereum thing WAS ALREADY SAID, they can't count by saying it. the bitbet nonsense -- not so.
mircea_popescu: it's what drives nubbins to nubbins, and all of these sad souls generally to wikipedia edit, quora answer etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it needn't explain that. your physics dun explain why some K sits, some emits beta and some emits gamma.
mircea_popescu: it's a random phenomenon, same root as brownian motion.
mircea_popescu: plenty of them emit "sdflkgkljerytuio ewaoeru oi2ew" and the spellcheker turns that into words
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but that's a later reinterpretation of the fgundamental "gotta say unsaid things to exist"
mircea_popescu: much like "the color red" is an ulterior construction on photon interaction
mircea_popescu: which goes to prove the point. no speech, no existence.
mircea_popescu: because how would they ? physical existence is racist.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: pretty good reason to stay in florida
doppler: they did a third demo recently
ben_vulpes: i am making very serious faces of 'no fucking idea'
ben_vulpes: i'm halfway curious about the cl it poops out
mircea_popescu: this is what the piece of paper certifies. "person is to a large degree wilfully blind to sense to satisfy imperial conventions."
mircea_popescu: yes, and every day of your life you are struggling against it.
mircea_popescu: did i mention i am having a very excellent time reading trilema logs ? because i am.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to round up the previous thread : do not imagine you can enact yourself through saying. that magic dun work here.
mircea_popescu: i have this cicada on the wall sounding exactly like my fan is going out on the wind-up phase.
mircea_popescu: pretty sure if you go offline for 2-3 days google drops the listing
mircea_popescu: anyway, i expect whoever is trying to make botnet via ssh bruteforce uses these via whatever pore ; pw changhe won't do much.
mircea_popescu: you can prolly find it if you care to run a netstat or such
mircea_popescu: im sending the nuclear waste crew towards end of april ?
mircea_popescu: "how to turn bed, bath and beyond into a reliable supplier of uranium pellets" by alf the beedog.
mircea_popescu: it's so sad and unfortunate it's kcl and not say cocaine.
mircea_popescu: no i mean, it copuld be in sf world the case that cocaine has K in it and nothing else does or w/e such sane reason.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally in the same vein : everyone's probably familiar with the electronic muscle contractors from forced orgasm / workout footage. but the equivalent item excists as detector not efectuator. put on girl, fuck her, voila. "this is the key of your passion, honey."
mircea_popescu: lol the 4-5 places where dieharder reports weakness prolly need some review of dieharder code. anyone feel like emailing the maintainers ?
mod6: thanks mircea_popescu
diana_coman: I really enjoyed reading this account of unboxing and testing the FG; thank you, mod6
mod6: diana_coman: thanks, yw!
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> lol the 4-5 places where dieharder reports weakness prolly need some review of dieharder code. anyone feel like emailing the maintainers ? << I should note, I hope the pics of this arn't too misleading. if you like at the actual text output, there are only 2 'WEAK' tests, which are:
mod6: # The file file_input_raw was rewound 118 times rgb_lagged_sum| 23| 1000000| 100|0.00063764| WEAK
mod6: # The file file_input_raw was rewound 194 times rgb_lagged_sum| 31| 1000000| 100|0.00000479| WEAK
mod6: Ima run the dieharder again as `dieharder -a -g 201 -f fg.bin`, and see if I get the same results.
mod6: So in total from the dieharder: 112 PASSED, 2 WEAK
mircea_popescu: no idea why the rgb lagged sum should fail. would have to read the code.
mod6: i may dig into that more at some point here.
mod6: yeah, just one randomly selected unit.
mod6: I re-ran the dh on the same fg.bin file (~1.2Gb) and the 'WEAK' tests were exactly the same ones, with exactly the same output values.
mod6: The only entire difference in the two runs was the rands/second at the top.
mod6: anyway, just wanted to be /sure/ that I wasn't getting some sort of varient test results from the dh.
mod6: I'll test all of my other units in this same fashion too.
mod6: apparently 157385 seconds
deedbot: jhvh1` voiced for 30 minutes.
jhvh1`: BingoBoingo: Time since last block: 4 minutes and 2 seconds
jhvh1`: BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 462057 | Current Difficulty: 5.20808749422E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 463679 | Next Difficulty In: 1622 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 6 hours, 40 minutes, and 32 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None