benkay: i don't know that the women *can't* have kids so much as the men aren't interested in being fathers or even men
mircea_popescu: is what i meant.
mircea_popescu: "when you write manuals for naval or air force vessels, you don't use MS Word and hope Microsoft doesn't come out with yet another incompatible disservice pack and/or upgrade, you use CALS and enterprise-wide publishing systems."
mircea_popescu: holy shit what is he on about. what happened to tex.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cals is/was a mind-bogglingly pedantic spec from us dod (circa early 80s)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: with the idea that under no circumstances would the death of one, two, hundred vendors lead to unreadable texts
mircea_popescu: hm
asciilifeform: the result was a mega-backbreaker - like Ada. but it sorta worked.
mircea_popescu: i am ignorant ofsuch matters.
asciilifeform: they could have, in principle, picked tex, but the latter has no hard spec for graphics.
asciilifeform: all of this took place in the long-gone era when usg insisted on full blueprints, chip masks (!) etc. to ensure longevity of a complete design
mircea_popescu: as in tables ?
asciilifeform: as in bitmaps
mircea_popescu: wtf bitmaps
asciilifeform: and vector (e.g. cad)
mircea_popescu: svg ?
asciilifeform: svg is a very recent thing
asciilifeform: remember, this is pre-sgml even
mircea_popescu: oh oh
asciilifeform: us dod realized that computer would remain 'a thing' - wanted hard specced formats.
asciilifeform: one of the last gasps of reason from that institution
asciilifeform: (naggum is known to have worked in ada. hence his familiarity with the matter)
asciilifeform: what computer-based product, on the shelf today, can be guaranteed manufacturable 50 years hence?
asciilifeform: that was the objective. some semblance of guarantee.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform flash rom
asciilifeform: funny that you mention roms, because vintage arcade machine enthusiasts go through astounding gymnastics to replicate the behaviour of '80s roms.
mircea_popescu: and to push a point, im pretty sure the mosfets are unchanged
mircea_popescu: since maybe 60s
asciilifeform: if you want an analogue part with known 'curves', you usually have to work at it.
asciilifeform: ask a fellow who's into vintage musical synths
asciilifeform: (or the valve aficionados)
asciilifeform: obligatory:
asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl-QMuUQhVM
assbot: hand making vacuum tubes Part 1 - YouTube
mircea_popescu: !up cowloon
cowloon: what's that mean
benkay: http://www.cmog.org/artwork/fuck
assbot: FUCK | Corning Museum of Glass
mircea_popescu: it means you can talk.
cowloon: oh, thanks
cowloon: but, I'm just here to lurk at the moment
mircea_popescu: it'll fade away, don't worry.
benkay: http://www.incandescentsculpture.com/wordpress/teslas-sensitive-brush-bulbs-or-the-invention-of-the-fluorescent-light/
assbot: Dylan Kehde Roelofs › Tesla’s wireless ‘sensitive brush’ Bulbs (Or: The invention of the Fluorescent light)
benkay: http://www.incandescentsculpture.com/wordpress/burning-man-2007-and-2008-my-custom-neon-plasma-tubes/
assbot: Dylan Kehde Roelofs › Burning Man 2007 and 2008: My custom neon plasma tubes-
asciilifeform: benkay: my parents had a soviet gizmo that consisted of exactly such a tube, with small tesla coil in the handle (dermatological crackpot medicine) so i got to see/feel mr t's tube on own hide.
asciilifeform: ;;google дарсонваль
gribble: Дарсонваль - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlZs5XZ4Qr0>; Дарсонваль c AliExpress - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJHhon90d88>; Физиотерапия дарсонваль - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IYCPDE9U9s>
asciilifeform laughed when, decades hence, saw the same in american sex shops
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually it's jolting if inserted up the cunt
asciilifeform: i can picture this
asciilifeform: for those who don't own this toy - it is rather like the spark of static one sometimes gets when touching grounded objects in winter time, but - constantly
mircea_popescu: so it has legitimate place in sex shop
mircea_popescu: if not in derma clinic (which is still done btw, high end spas and whatnot)
asciilifeform: zaps, e.g. acne pretty well.
mircea_popescu: " the spark of static one sometimes gets when touching grounded objects in winter time" << he means, when wearing mixed wool and plastic clothing
asciilifeform: or wool slippers
benkay: http://www.remingtonproducts.com/womens/ipl/i-light-pro/i-light-pro-intense-pulsed-light-hair-removal-system.aspx << does this shit work?
assbot: i-LIGHT Pro Intense Pulsed Light Hair Removal System | Remington Products
benkay: it seems to cook the follicle...
asciilifeform: go find the fellow who'll agree to shave with this.
asciilifeform: (reminds me of the russian ww2 recipe for a quick shave - petrol.)
benkay: test it on a babe...
benkay: dissolves the hair, asciilifeform ?
asciilifeform: negative
asciilifeform: gotta light it.
mircea_popescu: benkay you have no idea how far the female threshold is.
mircea_popescu: they brazilian wax FOR SPORT
benkay: i gotta start waxing for sport
asciilifeform: light coat of high-boiling fuel on skin won't burn the latter - watch a stage magician set own hands on fire, etc
asciilifeform: best done by one skilled in the art.
asciilifeform: ;;google leidenfrost effect
gribble: Leidenfrost effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leidenfrost_effect>; Hand vs. Liquid Nitrogen and the Leidenfrost Effect - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjsMV1MglA4>; BOILING AND THE LEIDENFROST EFFECT - Wiley: <http://www.wiley.com/college/phy/halliday320005/pdf/leidenfrost_essay.pdf>
benkay: okay so in this book of historical erotica i was browsing at the party last night in place of the utterly inane conversation of drunks and the unemployable i discovered a print titled 'the barber', where some woman was having her cooch shaved
benkay: this from like 1640 or something
benkay: and while I *know* that nothing is new under the sun, i still learned last night that cuntshaving's been a thing forever.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4829 @ 0.00080134 = 3.8697 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you familiar with this supposed siberian torture technique, give naked victim gasoline and a book of matches and let them be ?
benkay: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 589.8, Best ask: 590.74, Bid-ask spread: 0.94000, Last trade: 592.32, 24 hour volume: 2972.46767097, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 594.99, 24 hour vwap: 588.094009094
mircea_popescu: something like that
mircea_popescu: benkay not forever. i think it was a greek invention.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this works on americans. who routinely manage to light themselves up when trying to start backyard fires
mircea_popescu: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00080134 = 5.1286 BTC [+]
benkay: that's forever to me ;)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00080134 = 11.1386 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00080123 = 17.9476 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: !up nerdfiles
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23429 @ 0.00080228 = 18.7966 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.19224285 = 2.6914 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00080123 = 7.7719 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.19 = 5.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00080123 = 6.9306 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: argentine flan kicks ass
assbot: muXne +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
mircea_popescu: !up muxne
assbot: Vexual +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
mircea_popescu: !up vexual
mircea_popescu: noobs
mircea_popescu: !up vexual
Vexual: hi
mircea_popescu: no soup for you.
Vexual: tell me about it
Vexual: i tried to go to the thing in hong kong
Vexual: calced exactly the whisky to sleep for 8 hours
mircea_popescu: there was this duckling earlier.
Vexual: frindly airport staff think i overcalced
Vexual: duckling?
mircea_popescu: what's your bell come to by the\ way ?
asciilifeform: unrelated to anything (save possible the legal sophistries discussions):
asciilifeform: http://pastebin.com/EYwLyU1y
assbot: sacchetti - Pastebin.com
asciilifeform: took ages to dig up the english
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2069 @ 0.00080353 = 1.6625 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: !up kanzure
asciilifeform: ;;ident kanzure
gribble: Nick 'kanzure', with hostmask 'kanzure!~kanzure@', is not identified.
asciilifeform: kanzure: get in wot so i can rate you as known human
kanzure: asciilifeform: oops sorry about that
kanzure: asciilifeform: fixed
kanzure: asciilifeform: btw, i bought a dna synthesizer the other day
asciilifeform: which one
kanzure: ABI 391
asciilifeform: neato
kanzure: hell yeah! a decade of cancer here i come.
kanzure: gonna be hooking up a microfluidic column based on a projector
kanzure: to do 1920x1080 sequences simultaneously
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.06699799 = 0.871 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: ;;rate kanzure 1 meat programmer
gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
kanzure: asciilifeform: still trying to figure out how to paint the device,
kanzure: i was thinking painting this over the beige panels: http://ih3.redbubble.net/image.15027782.1633/fc,550x550,asphalt.u1.jpg
asciilifeform: ;;rate kanzure 1 meat programmer
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user kanzure has been recorded.
kanzure: also open to suggestions for other graffiti options
mircea_popescu: that domain read redtube at frst
kanzure: might as well
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00080506 = 7.5676 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 119 @ 0.067 = 7.973 BTC [+]
assbot: Vexual +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23076 @ 0.00080552 = 18.5882 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 307140 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1307 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 16 hours, 2 minutes, and 26 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16458311240.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.25228
moiety: whoops well the doge community does not like being told "fuck you".... i'm in the doghouse
Vexual: boingo brain u genius
mthreat: !up mjr_
mthreat: <mircea_popescu> mthreat wouldja be interested in filling in the logs for the first missing year, and generate a drop-in blob kakobrekla can put into his log thing too ? << sure, do you have the logs for the first year?
Vexual: lol
mthreat: <benkay> linespacing's pretty wide but awesome work << i'm shit at CSS; feel free to suggest changes, with css/html code if possible
mircea_popescu: mthreat drop me your email, ill send you what i got.
mircea_popescu: lemme see here
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16150 @ 0.00080559 = 13.0103 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: Azelphur FabianB mod6 punkman mind sendinmg your early logs to mthreat too ?
mircea_popescu: up until july 2013 if memory serves.
mircea_popescu: may actually.
mthreat: log.b-a currently goes back to 26-4-2013 I believe
mjr_: what a treasure trove of fun memories
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9997 @ 0.00080506 = 8.0482 BTC [-]
mthreat: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2013
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
mthreat: ^ that is the oldest day, and the first entry has id #1.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10820 @ 0.00080464 = 8.7062 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 894 @ 0.00080255 = 0.7175 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00080255 = 13.523 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00080574 = 6.8488 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.067 = 1.206 BTC [+]
Vexual: yo smidge, -1 me for effectiveness
Vexual: :)
benkay: ;;ident Vexual
gribble: CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'Vexual', with hostmask 'Vexual!~amnesia@gateway/tor-sasl/vexual', is identified as user 'muXne', with GPG key id None, key fingerprint None, and bitcoin address 1Badmofonny75kX7FrVHpCpNsRxMrmuXne
benkay: is this real life?
Vexual: can i haz job now ben10?
benkay: ;;gettrust assbot muXne
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Vexual!~amnesia@gateway/tor-sasl/vexual. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user assbot to user muXne: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=muXne | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=muXne | Rated since: Sun Jun 22 00:11:14 2014
benkay: well if this aint a how d'you do
benkay: i don't hire markov chains, Vexual
benkay: but play some music i might send you a bitcent or two
Vexual: shit got lippy, i deleted it
Vexual: now i forget what you like
benkay: well i enjoyed this a lot today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-QRw9Pl5WI&eml=2014June19/1644059/6011909
assbot: Seeed - Cherry Oh 2014 (Animatic) - YouTube
benkay: peeeeete
benkay: m'lad
bitcoinpete: lol hey benkay
bitcoinpete: just came across this gem: https://twitter.com/coin_artist/status/480574910515789825
assbot: Portrait of /AmirTaaki and /Radomysisky. Let the decrypting begin. Victor takes all. /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash /hashtag/art?src=hash /hashtag/hiddentreasure?src=hash http://t.co/JmrjfROEWO
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--WNQEZhtOQ
assbot: "I Always Smile Kid" BL-DUB BEATS - YouTube
mircea_popescu: ହିନ୍ଜଡା << this is a word
Apocalyptic: in Sumerian maybe
mircea_popescu: some indian language
Vexual: sanskrit?
moiety: what does it mean?
Vexual: ^
moiety: is it just me that it looks like a row of people to?
moiety: well, heads
mircea_popescu: yeah.
moiety: XD
Vexual: i met a girl that knew sanskrit once
mircea_popescu: mthreat sent to april 27th
mircea_popescu: there are prolly holes in it tho
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.067 = 1.005 BTC [+]
mthreat: ok
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell pigeons hey you got old -assets logs ? 2012 to 2013 ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: Aug 10 08:04:15 *patrickharnett (cb4f5ec0@gateway/web/freenode/ip. has joined #bitcoin-assets
mircea_popescu: days of yore heh
mircea_popescu: ;;seen bitfoo
gribble: bitfoo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 14 weeks, 4 days, 23 hours, 46 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <bitfoo> +1 for informative titles
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.03847462 = 0.7695 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00080485 = 12.4752 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: ;;seen oneeyed
gribble: oneeyed was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 35 weeks, 4 days, 13 hours, 20 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <OneEyed> Oh, I thought I had read an IRC transcript on bitcointalk earlier today. Sorry for the confusion.
mircea_popescu: what's jcpham's gay nick these days ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4438 @ 0.00080599 = 3.577 BTC [+]
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, rithm
mircea_popescu: a yes ty.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell rithm hey you got old -assets logs ? dump em on mthreat
gribble: The operation succeeded.
Apocalyptic: yw
bitcoinpete: man the world cup wouldn't be 1/10th as interesting w/o bitbet
moiety: imma get a couple hours sleep, night all :]
bitcoinpete: having a huge amount of fun
bitcoinpete: cheers moiety :)
mircea_popescu: moiety sex weeks to you!
moiety: XD
bitcoinpete: the blackcoin "community" has been driving some traffic to my blog with the litecoin article
bitcoinpete: http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/28nfvs/why_its_over_for_litecoin_this_is_great_for/
assbot: Why Its Over For Litecoin (This is GREAT for BlackCoin!) : blackcoin
bitcoinpete: there are some lulz in the comments
bitcoinpete: "Peter Dushenski is a first class bellend who would attack blackcoin if it was in litecoins position. JUST REMEMBER THAT!"
bitcoinpete: probably the best one there
bitcoinpete: "Blackcoin definitely has what it takes to be competitive in today's market. A solid development team combined with a focus on real-world adoption will give us a bright future."
Vexual: yarr
bitcoinpete: "I don't necessarily disagree with the message, and I think advertising there a great idea. However, we should absolutely not stoop to coin wars type of posts. Blackcoin can succeed along with LTC."
bitcoinpete: don't stoop!
bitcoinpete: "My point is simply that honey attracts more flies than vinegar and we don't need to attack other coins or promote negativity. It turns people off."
bitcoinpete: that dale carnegie...
mircea_popescu: bellend eh ?
mircea_popescu: wtf is blackcoin in the first place.
Vexual: not atc\
mircea_popescu: that's a point.
bitcoinpete: ya… bellend… not even "m'lad"
bitcoinpete: https://twitter.com/BlackCoinPool/status/480459195855020032
assbot: /hashtag/TeamBlack?src=hash just finished getting interviewed by /CoinTelegraph really awesome stuff! http://t.co/EObIGvkbYr
bitcoinpete: there they be
bitcoinpete: in all dat glory
mircea_popescu: justusranvier you know if you made a point of cutting out tired cliches such as "By now everyone has heard of" your writing'd benefit immensely.
bitcoinpete: BingoBoingo: Fucking hashpower << this.
mircea_popescu: "The origins of modern currencies started with gold and other precious metals." modern has an actual meaning. modern currencies start with the paper receipts used in england and then spread all over. premodern money starts with bronze and shells.
Vexual: bronzing up is still a thing
mircea_popescu: "Over time, as finance and commerce became more sophisticated, the concept of a unit of account emerge and gold generally became the default unit. Much has been written regarding why gold fell into this role, but for our purposes here it’s sufficient to note that it did." << seriously ?! what is this, insult the reader's intelligence club ?
Vexual: ;;ud bronzing up
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bronzing%20Up | "They smeared themselves with their own waste, but the protest (known in jails as bronzing up) proved futile when they were later told they were not required at ...
mircea_popescu: that thing needs a complete re-write
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqrvF4qCQAAEmtE.jpg << that's the solid dev team that defvinitely "has what it takes in the market" ?
mircea_popescu: also in the news, cointelegraph needs a bubble level
bitcoinpete: that yellow tie does wonders to obscure the gender of its bearer
bitcoinpete: sorta reminds me of the italian model cum nun
bitcoinpete: in the "well that's unexpected" way
mircea_popescu: not like there's any women in these solid teams anyway
bitcoinpete: despite their "fairly distributed" motto
bitcoinpete: i bet you their "community bounties" aren't all they're cracked up to be either
bitcoinpete: Cosmos: I'm antimalicious, & brilliant, & responsible, that's why donating to me is so constructive << i want to sense sarcasm but i'm just not seeing it
bitcoinpete: o there it is
bitcoinpete: subtle
mircea_popescu: "They are beyond question the loveliest of all their sex...In the United States, of course, where natural selection has been going on, as elsewhere, and where, much more than elsewhere, that has been a great variety to choose from. The eventual American woman will be even more beautiful than the woman of to-day. Her claims to that distinction will result from a fine combination of the best points of all those many race
mircea_popescu: s which have helped to make our population."
mircea_popescu: someone actually believed that us born womenz were going to be teh prettiest, a century ago.
bitcoinpete: never saw walmarters coming...
mircea_popescu: beauty does not coexist with convenience.
mircea_popescu: only the knuth and starvation makes beautiful girls.
mircea_popescu: apparently it's spelled knout
bitcoinpete: ;;google knout
gribble: Knout - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knout>; Knout - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary: <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/knout>; knout - Wiktionary: <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/knout>
bitcoinpete: myeah
bitcoinpete: googling "knuth" brings up this http://xkcd.com/163/
assbot: xkcd: Donald Knuth
mircea_popescu: flogger and famine. there, it even alliterates.
bitcoinpete: starve and strap too
Vexual: hmmmmmmmm
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlZD1PJKU_k
assbot: Brooke Candy - Henny Pop (double) 2.0 - YouTube
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev-PsaQCwoY
assbot: OnDubGround - NoNoNo RMX - YouTube
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: never trust a baby boom, for the baby boomers are almost always the end of things. << added to the growing list
bitcoinpete: decimation: 'phones' were varied and interesting and converge to iphone shitbox << following the leader instead of trying new shit like this is guaranteed to screw over the entire industry
bitcoinpete: just end up racing to the bottom on cost and process efficiency
bitcoinpete: and logged up and... ready for bed. golf in the morning!
mircea_popescu: nighty dear world.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15150 @ 0.00080963 = 12.2659 BTC [+] {2}
punkman1: https://soundcloud.com/whyy-the-pulse/an-audio-illusion
assbot: An audio illusion by WHYY The Pulse on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds
punkman1: morning guv'nor
Vexual: morm'm got that sans flash?
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNjhsPt_8Gw
assbot: Daft Punk - Teachers - YouTube
punkman1: try this https://ec-media.soundcloud.com/nOGV3YdxVaIA.128.mp3?f10880d39085a94a0418a7ef69b03d522cd6dfee9399eeb9a522019f6bfabf3fa1507fb8f4c1c7664b20f98a253a4cf99c459385527def42fa82ef5f49968df33e2860fbc6&AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJNIGGLK7XA7YZSNQ&Expires=1403421391&Signature=iHJ%2FXd9SWVqXYX%2FhuSBLM8ly0B0%3D
Vexual: yeah i got it, thanks
punkman1: makes me think of how I got no idea what some song is saying until I read the lyrics
Vexual: allow me
punkman1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8H2klXyhRs
assbot: Bad Joke [PARAZITII] - YouTube
Vexual: kennilworth on da mic
Vexual: thanks for the landcruisers
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuyS9M8T03A following you home since forever
assbot: George Clinton - Atomic Dog - YouTube
punkman1: hello, this is dog
punkman1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO-K6yN4hEQ
assbot: Pueblo Cafe - Todo Mi Vida - HD - High Quality - YouTube
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgc6CQNI2x8
assbot: Celso Pina, Control Machete- Cumbia Sobre El Rio - YouTube
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00080981 = 2.065 BTC [+]
punkman1: ;;rate muXne 1 #b-a dj
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user muXne has been recorded.
Vexual: ;;rate pynkman1 1 sexy wit da curses
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
Vexual: ;;rate punkman1 sexy wit da curses
gribble: Error: 'sexy' is not a valid integer.
Vexual: ;;rate punkman 1 sexy with curses
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user punkman has been recorded.
punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTn0li1q1O0
assbot: Siriusmo "Itchy / Cornerboy" - YouTube
Vexual: wait
Vexual: are you punkman?
Vexual: yes
Vexual: take it back to the shack
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSzpOUwiLkc
assbot: Nightcrawlers - Push The Feeling On - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 69 @ 0.18968827 = 13.0885 BTC [-] {5}
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cQYtAOSFEo
assbot: DJ Hell - Wonderland - YouTube
punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFtMl-uipA8
assbot: FKA twigs - Water Me - YouTube
Vexual: hehe
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aF9AJm0RFc
assbot: Johnny Cash - Hurt - YouTube
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F-CpE73o2M
assbot: Fever Ray 'When I Grow Up' - YouTube
Vexual: as the sun comes up over latvia
benkay: <Vexual> not atc\ // i can't tell if this is the real Vexual or if his nick's been suborned by the most clever team to date
benkay: <mircea_popescu> someone actually believed that us born womenz were going to be teh prettiest, a century ago. // there are some gems. some.
benkay: ;;later tell Vexual <Vexual> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlZD1PJKU_k << never again
assbot: Brooke Candy - Henny Pop (double) 2.0 - YouTube
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.066 = 1.518 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: <Vexual> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgc6CQNI2x8 // la cumbia!
assbot: Celso Pina, Control Machete- Cumbia Sobre El Rio - YouTube
benkay: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2014&bots=true#728328 // i take it back this is clearly our own dear Vexual
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
benkay: <Vexual> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSzpOUwiLkc // i bet one or two of 'em is interested in becoming an actual sexopt
assbot: Nightcrawlers - Push The Feeling On - YouTube
benkay: sexpot
benkay: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightcrawlers_(band)
assbot: Nightcrawlers (band) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 602 @ 0.00229842 = 1.3836 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00087109 = 2.6568 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00087109 = 6.5332 BTC [+]
muXne: I forgot how to do it
Vexual: like dat?
Vexual: punkman u like lyrics?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00087013 = 6.7 BTC [-]
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RPkJeziNyI check the date
assbot: Bob Dylan - Thunder On The Mountain - YouTube
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMX1sc3eOTE
assbot: New York - Alicia Keys "Empire State of Mind" [OFFICIAL VIDEO] - YouTube
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10001 @ 0.00086986 = 8.6995 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06500022 = 0.65 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0650001 = 0.65 BTC [+] {2}
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9VQye6P8k0
assbot: Patience - YouTube
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10083 @ 0.00086686 = 8.7405 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: moiety:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPd9gpPifuU
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvy5TGLUls8
assbot: Damian "Jr. Gong" Marley - Set Up Shop - YouTube
Vexual: BLEND IT
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLZmI3a-N-A
assbot: The Herbaliser - The Blend - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.06363571 = 0.8909 BTC [-] {4}
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1ZtyV1kGMY
assbot: Cypress Hill x Rusko - Can't Keep Me Down (Feat. Damian Marley) - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.06286572 = 6.2866 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 50 @ 0.0298998 = 1.495 BTC [+] {6}
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xTGrfs5TXM dear reader, your war doesnt exist
assbot: War - Low Rider (HQ Audio) - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 50 @ 0.03022011 = 1.511 BTC [+] {5}
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AwXKJoKJz4
assbot: Kelis - Milkshake - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.06007957 = 1.1415 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1704 @ 0.00087075 = 1.4838 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.0649999 = 1.495 BTC [+]
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TbW1srpjZc hopper oz you thought deniro was a thing
assbot: AC/DC if you want blood + Hell Ride - Tribute - YouTube
Vexual: deniro is not a thing
fluffypony: http://thedoghousediaries.com/comics/uncategorized/2014-06-18-db00fab.png
Vexual: how goes the estonian tailors?
[]bot: Bet placed: 2.9544 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin incremental difficulty to increase by 3B or more" http://bitbet.us/bet/783/ Odds: 81(Y):19(N) by coin, 73(Y):27(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.57721769 BTC. Current weight: 47,589.
fluffypony: Vexual: not there yet - I fly from here (Johannesburg) tomorrow night
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm_CEmybOjc
assbot: Easy Rider - Jack Nicholson, Peter Fonda and Dennis Hopper[Best quality] - YouTube
Vexual: i tried to go to hong kong
Vexual: demeanour fine famability too high
Vexual: i wont mentio the airline;i'm xhanging
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySgOds3bzcc
assbot: Jack Nicholson in Easy Rider - YouTube
Vexual: eat a dick kako https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeIJmciN8mo
assbot: Nicki Minaj - Starships (Explicit) - YouTube
Vexual: fine as in accepable
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdrqA93sW-8
assbot: Nicki Minaj - Pound The Alarm (Explicit) - YouTube
Azelphur: mthreat: I hear you want logs? I have Apr 11 2012 onwards
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dly6p4Fu5TE
assbot: Jennifer Lopez - Jenny from the Block - YouTube
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00087085 = 9.5794 BTC [+] {2}
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wtncm2yzUE
assbot: Billy Bunks - Strumpets - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.06479972 = 0.7776 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAb_racnz08
assbot: Raw Aussie Hip-Hop with Cairns MC Wilba rapping live on Boom Bap FM - YouTube
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.0008675 = 16.4825 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26640 @ 0.0008725 = 23.2434 BTC [+] {3}
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwTj9rR0BYY
assbot: Hermitude - Ukiyo - YouTube
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeaIvjoH1FY
assbot: Flight Facilities - Crave You (Adventure Club Dubstep Remix) - YouTube
Vexual: sup TAT
ThickAsThieves: sup
Vexual: to adventure, and beyond
ThickAsThieves: mircea_popescu > dogecoin mmporg in the style of Eve: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=269740803
assbot: Steam Greenlight :: VoidSpace - The Dogecoin MMORPG
Vexual: how many kid would wanna be you??
ThickAsThieves: kids don't even know about me
ThickAsThieves: it's how you stay cool
fluffypony: you're so hipster
Vexual: kids pick up on shit
fluffypony: werd
ThickAsThieves: flashback! http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/banana1015.com/files/2012/07/gngft.jpg
ThickAsThieves: intersting, i didnt know steam sold non-games, they also have the greenlight program for non-games too http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/browse/?appid=765&section=software
assbot: Steam Greenlight
ThickAsThieves: mostly software you might use to make games...
ThickAsThieves: vexual, gimme a good song, nothing dubstep or redneck
Vexual: wait
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T11A_lvcseo
assbot: Blondie - Call Me - YouTube
ThickAsThieves: hehe
Vexual: lofi
ThickAsThieves: it's weird to have such a rock song with no band in the video
ThickAsThieves: she's all pretending to be Aretha Franklin when she should be Joan Jetting
Vexual: the band is tied to the radiator back at he hotel
ThickAsThieves: i wonder how much coke she did that night
ThickAsThieves: she looks pretty drunk
Vexual: yeah i think shes on nubbins herbs
ThickAsThieves: this guy is drunk too "Yea, these are nice. I want the gold one but I will probably wait since bitcoins are way undervalued and gold is somewhat over valued in relation."
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0skjm-uJSs
assbot: Blondie - The Tide Is High - YouTube
ThickAsThieves: The uploader has not made this video available in your country.
Vexual: yeah ppYgrdJ0pWk
ThickAsThieves: I have 7 reddit karma!
xmj: I have 20!
xmj: My bad. 13.
Vexual: how to reddit?
ThickAsThieves: it's hard getting karma without agreeing with and pumping everything
xmj: ThickAsThieves: just post interesting links.
ThickAsThieves: for varying values of interesting...
xmj: well du
xmj: h
Vexual: pWhj4sVeVS0
Vexual: no?
ThickAsThieves: i dont speak that language
Vexual: pWhj4sVeVD0
xmj: Vexual: posted his root password into irc. let's hack him. his ip is
Vexual: 10 tons of honey pot for fools xjm
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 133 @ 0.06000085 = 7.9801 BTC [-] {8}
xmj: Vexual: apologies. i'm mildly bored.
Vexual: comment things on your way past
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 488 @ 0.05333757 = 26.0287 BTC [-] {21}
Vexual: too late for that or you work in the garden
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00086529 = 2.5959 BTC [-]
Vexual: ill gibe you a tip var is called vex
Vexual: but your fail will cascade to fertiliser
Vexual: mext years limes if you care
mircea_popescu: lol hi there
Vexual: PBCJWJXeFzk
Vexual: hey
ThickAsThieves: i wonder if vexual could pass a turing test
Vexual: ;;rate mircrea_popescu 1 sexy
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
Vexual: +d
Vexual: TAT o can't chess
Vexual: or see the kb
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves probably. turing test mostly verifies predictability.
Vexual: well thats a fail, bring it
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edwsf-8F3sI
assbot: Michael Bubl - Feeling Good [Official Music Video] - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.063 = 0.63 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: it's interesting learning the signs of deception in stock TA articles, charts, etc, to try to influence the market to buy at tops, sell at bottoms
ThickAsThieves: you pretty much cant trust shit
Vexual: tat you know more about me than i do
mircea_popescu: exactly.
ThickAsThieves: like this: http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2014/06/20/options-play-for-tapping-into-strength-of-netflix/
assbot: Options Play For Tapping Into Strength Of Netflix - Forbes
ThickAsThieves: i thought it'd be an article saying NFLX is going down
ThickAsThieves: nope!
ThickAsThieves: it just double-topped and she says buy!
Vexual: i never knew netflix was tradable
mircea_popescu: you have to understand how propaganda works.
ThickAsThieves: i wonder how these things go IRL, like does her boss say "Please write a bullish NFLX article"
mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as english language free press.
mircea_popescu: no, generally it's not. goebbels didn't go "please write me a bullshit anti-jew speech again"
Vexual: meanwhile australia is rocking private trackers and not caring
Vexual: nrst belive im writing the bitcoin tax law too
ThickAsThieves: "Bitreserve’s tagline is ‘the end of bitcoin volatility’. "
mircea_popescu: what's bitreserve lol
Vexual: ^
mircea_popescu: o the cnet guy
mircea_popescu: ya ya.
mircea_popescu: read the guy's personal history sometime btw. it's quite instructive.
mircea_popescu: patron saint of all neobees.
Vexual: h,h,how to be cool?
ThickAsThieves: cnet never really seemed interesting to me
mircea_popescu: well basically guy sold out for about half a bn (back when us dollars were still worth something)
mircea_popescu: then went on a spending spree, which left him bankrupt last year.
ThickAsThieves: perfect contender for a bitcoin jesushood then
mircea_popescu: now he thinks himself a bitcoin expert, without having spent his year humbly reading here.
mircea_popescu: right. this can only end in tears.
mircea_popescu: "Bitreserve is Minor’s way to address the problems and opportunities he sees with Bitcoin. He says most people will never be comfortable holding the volatile digital currency"
ThickAsThieves: it irks me that bigger media now calls Ver Bitcoin Jesus
mircea_popescu: i mean think about it. so many sorts of wrong in so little space...
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves why ?
ThickAsThieves: too much irony for me
ThickAsThieves: i guess i need to stop caring about idiots that trust the media
mircea_popescu: i'll tell you, it's your emotional investment in said media, and more generally the notion that the whole establishment is a positive thing "taken together" that irks you.
mircea_popescu: it's an evil empire, chiefly because it's made by stupid people to promote wrongness and error.
ThickAsThieves: i guess itll at least yield drama fuel
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sqFprD6qIs
assbot: Vietnow- Rage Against the Machine (Lyrics) - YouTube
mircea_popescu: dubious. who cares about ver now that he's poor ?
ThickAsThieves: well the media will be happy to report his failures
ThickAsThieves: Bitcoin Jesus Crucified
mircea_popescu: im wondering if they have a pedo story in the drawer about him too. i wasn't able to find one.
ThickAsThieves: nah he has a real undertone of lack of confidence
ThickAsThieves: probly has micropenis or something
Vexual: fuck i spilled my shisky then
ThickAsThieves: i guess those are probly higher % pedos...
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKpgwxfPfsw
assbot: If you like pina coladas - jimmy bufett Lyrics - YouTube
bitcoinpete: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 307218 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1229 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 23 hours, 11 minutes, and 4 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16646758858.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.65207
bitcoinpete: 129 ph...
ThickAsThieves: wow
ThickAsThieves: i guess ASICMINER is delivering
Vexual: ph is so 2014
ThickAsThieves: Estimated Next Difficulty:16,947,623,526 (+25.89%)
bitcoinpete: ThickAsThieves: knc too
mircea_popescu: and to cap the previous discussion : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/Beckwith_James_Carroll_Portrait_of_Evelyn_Nesbitt.jpg
mircea_popescu: woman is 16 and a half.
mircea_popescu: o damn.
ThickAsThieves: http://bitbet.us/bet/783/bitcoin-incremental-difficulty-to-increase-by-3b-or/
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin incremental difficulty to increase by 3B or more :: 3.81 B (81%) on Yes, 0.87 B (19%) on No | closing in 2 months 2 weeks | weight: 47`543 (100`000 to 6`000)
ThickAsThieves: just got interesting
Vexual: recent pic?
mircea_popescu: ya srsly.
mircea_popescu: Vexual not more than coffee.
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "1BTC >= $10,000 USD" http://bitbet.us/bet/635/ Odds: 15(Y):85(N) by coin, 19(Y):81(N) by weight. Total bet: 491.17953373 BTC. Current weight: 42,265.
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=298nld4Yfds
assbot: Paul Simon - 50 Ways to Leave Your Lover + lyrics - YouTube
xmj: how fast is the rate of change?
Vexual: variable
xmj: approximately, per week
Vexual: difficulty? its a thing unto itself
Vexual: miners of ol' say price drives mining
Vexual: i say bitcoin is bunta
Vexual: ;;ud bunta
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bunta | The chief told the explorers they had two choices: death or bunta. The first, saying he has a wife and kids, easily chose bunta. The whole tribe bends him over ...
bitcoinpete: ThickAsThieves: "On June 5th Friedcat's update mentioned the close to 60PH that was finishing up production. When asked how long that was from an inventory standpoint, he indicated 1 to 1.5 months from that day to sell everything plus the fiat to BTC conversion. 1.5 months from June 5th puts us around July 20th, a solid month from now."
ThickAsThieves: apparently it's pretty hard to make a bitbet that difficulty can't satisfy
bitcoinpete: from forumz
Vexual: bitbet gets scary close to diff
Vexual: months out
kakobrekla: <Vexual> bitbet gets scary close to diff < take an unimaginable number and it will end up scary close.
mircea_popescu: yup.
mircea_popescu: exactly.
ThickAsThieves: punkman should do another datamine: What if you bet .1 btc on Yes for all bets including "difficulty" and No for all others
ThickAsThieves: probly $1m
ThickAsThieves: hehe
mircea_popescu: lol
kakobrekla: nah, he just makes to make a bet that over next N bets the outcome will be positive
kakobrekla: and bet on that.
mircea_popescu: it's kinda funny, all these wanna-bes and have-beens trying to get involved into bitcoin with dysfunctional, nonsensical business models
[]bot: Bet placed: 5 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin incremental difficulty to increase by 3B or more" http://bitbet.us/bet/783/ Odds: 91(Y):9(N) by coin, 86(Y):14(N) by weight. Total bet: 9.67721769 BTC. Current weight: 47,541.
mircea_popescu: when all they'd really need would be to forget all the wallets and whatnot and just you know, bet yes on this and no onthat
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlEvh-DZ-kE
assbot: Billy Joel - Only The Good Die Young (HQ with lyrics) - YouTube
xmj: mircea_popescu: like those hedgefunds that put up bitcoin funds?
Vexual: everything is all
ThickAsThieves: “Cybercriminals acting in late 2013 installed a malicious computer program on the servers of a large hedge fund, crippling its high-speed trading strategy and sending information about its trades to unknown offsite computers.”
mircea_popescu: lol
Vexual: >>low speed
mircea_popescu: there you go asciilifeform
ThickAsThieves: Because of this systemic risk, the SEC recently announced it “will be conducting examinations of more than 50 registered broker-dealers and registered investment advisers, focusing on areas related to cybersecurity.”
mircea_popescu: and diametric. naggum was wrong.
ThickAsThieves: SEC gonna need a bigger boat
mircea_popescu: people doing "navy manuals" and whatever the fuck use decent software stacks for a limited time only.
Vexual: lol
mircea_popescu: in general, once corruption becomes fashionable, holdouts last ageneration or less.
mircea_popescu: and obviously, there's no prize for the people that ran safe stacks. there's a prize for those who didn't, who now get to a) bundle a lot of unrelated responmsibility and blame it on this known cause and b) ask for more money.
mircea_popescu: sort-of like the teenage slut born to wealth that skips a lot of school, and gets herself knocked up. not only is she getting some candy to "compensate" her for the abortion, but she also gets to blame her cocaine habit on the bad boy that "seduced" her.
mircea_popescu: in this sense, you don't want either democracy or strong government, because neither democracy nor strong government are capable of acting differently from the weak spirited but rich parent of an estranged daughter.
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: spot on analogy
bitcoinpete: "According to the analogy theory, it’s because making analogies requires thinking across traditional mental categories. In fact, some cognitive scientists have proposed that the farther the analogy—that is, the farther apart the previous experience and new situation—the more likely it will lead to a radically new idea." << hocus "science" but a point
bitcoinpete: http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2014/06/18/where-do-new-ideas-come-from/
assbot: Where Do New Ideas Come From? – Phenomena: Only Human
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete there is something to the afieldness theory i think.
mircea_popescu: i certainly use a lot of sex analogies in work fields specifically because people [english speakers] so deliberately compartimentalise the two
mircea_popescu: it's a process much akin to inclusive franchise - more likely to yield better ballot results.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00087778 = 8.8656 BTC [+]
bitcoinpete: it's definitely hard for native english speakers to come up with our own sex analogies
bitcoinpete: because of how compartmentalized all such notions are
mircea_popescu: nude workday ftw.
Vexual: i win
bitcoinpete: we understand them, just generate them with difficulty
bitcoinpete: i really shouldn't say "we"
mircea_popescu: yeah.
bitcoinpete: eh it's a skill to be worked on
mircea_popescu: english jesus pete :D
bitcoinpete: lol pete is already one of those bible doods
bitcoinpete: i've been using a lot more analogies in irl conversation since hanging out here
bitcoinpete: with pretty exceptional results
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZAE8TOiZAs
assbot: Forest Swords - Thor's Stone (Lee 'Scratch' Perry Remix) - YouTube
mircea_popescu: watch out, you'rte gonna start picking up women and whatnot
bitcoinpete: you shoulda seen me at the club on friday night
bitcoinpete: lol
bitcoinpete: wife was in las vegas for a friend's birthday
mircea_popescu: (yes, it is my considered opinion that the one sine qua non condition for successful flirting is the device of analogy. anything else people insist upon, such as looking good, being funny, having money or w/e is piss)
bitcoinpete: analogies tie in to "being funny"
bitcoinpete: or they can
mircea_popescu: woman may enjoy to laugh, but proper analogy brings this innocent sense of wonder forth
mircea_popescu: which is how people fuck anyway.
bitcoinpete: at the club i ran into some classmates from highschool. the looks on their faces were pretty golden
mircea_popescu: mjr_: what a treasure trove of fun memories << werd.
bitcoinpete: so people fuck by analogy…
Vexual: carvel
Vexual: fit fucks
mircea_popescu: lol yeah
Vexual: the undeniable
mircea_popescu: punkman that's a direct (ie, word-for-word, idiom-blind) translation of a highly tensed romanian text.
mircea_popescu: basically, sung google translate.
bitcoinpete: https://twitter.com/BeardedGenius/status/480657179918499840
assbot: When I say 'most confused fan at the World Cup', I obviously mean after Columbian Nazi Weed Pope. Obviously. http://t.co/TXPVYcvHyo
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpugpzsQgus
assbot: kymani marley - warriors - YouTube
mircea_popescu: lol that's pretty good.
mircea_popescu: i doubt the guy's confused per se. looks more like, we're lulzy to him.
mircea_popescu: " In the next 2 days 18 indie bands in Shoreditch will name themselves Nazi Weed Pope."
thestringpuller: lol i had a dream about bitcoin-assets
mircea_popescu: benkay: <Vexual> not atc\ // i can't tell if this is the real Vexual or if his nick's been suborned by the most clever team to date << as opposed to what, before ?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller did it involve vigorous copulative movements ?
mircea_popescu: benkay: there are some gems. some. << well of course. but the guy didn't say "there's going to be A total knockout born somewhere in the US"
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dkfdZVcRCg
assbot: EEK A MOUSE BITTY BONG - YouTube
bitcoinpete: "It is highly unlikely that most Americans feel the current rise in prices as noise. Inflation has a way of eating into every penny that you have especially when the market is flooded with debt."
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: mircea_popescu > dogecoin mmporg in the style of Eve: <<< well... "going to", anyway.
bitcoinpete: http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/message-from-yellen-let-them-eat-noise/
assbot: Message From Yellen: Let Them Eat “Noise” | David Stockman's Contra Corner
punkman: ThickAsThieves: that gives an extra 0.23 BTC
punkman: mircea_popescu: who wrote it?
mircea_popescu: wrote what ?
mircea_popescu: don't say "it" to me like it means something bish!!! i'm eighteen lines deep
punkman: the tensed romanian text
mircea_popescu: oh. lessee
punkman: your "it" was the Bad Joke song, right?
mircea_popescu: ya
mircea_popescu: so it's mostly Cheloo (Cătălin Ștefan Ion), Ombladon (Bogdan Ionuț Păstacă) thyat write teh text thy play
mircea_popescu: most of the stuff they write is practically chinese (ie, doesn't follow romanian topic conventions (as in most latin languages you can order the words either plainly or meaningfully in romanian), they layer an abundance of cultured reference in between common metaphor (which is a process of significating that goes one step further than the idiom, roughly used to be known in english as conceit back before the us was a t
mircea_popescu: hing))
mircea_popescu: and so trying to translate it mostly yields word salad
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete well she actually does have a point. the shreds of data people are making a big deal about are likely statistical noise.
mircea_popescu: the systemic problems however... nobody wants to talk about those.
mircea_popescu: lol that blondie vid is the tits. by her face you'd think she thinks she's singing inside a huge churning blender.
BingoBoingo: OMG a recipe for word salad, where's dotcoin?
Vexual: wait
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: myeah
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piTp8rIK3nQ
assbot: Blondie 1975 A Girl Should Know Better CBGB. - YouTube
bitcoinpete: to use an analogy, fighting over a lifted toilet seat is easier than addressing the broken marriage
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxpe1oSp_sg << anyway, here's blondy back before she had fucked a truck and snorted a barge
assbot: Blondie - Heart of Glass 1979 Video TopPop stereo widescreen - YouTube
mircea_popescu: back when she had only fucked a regimen and snorted a pail
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/the-fabulous-baker-boys/ << the pfeiff plays something very akin to blondy in that. kickass filmn too
assbot: The Fabulous Baker Boys pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
penguirker: New blog post: http://devilsadvocate.biz/btcusd-update-one-more-cut-before-the-big-show/
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 599.24, Best ask: 600.29, Bid-ask spread: 1.05000, Last trade: 599.24, 24 hour volume: 4127.55171453, 24 hour low: 587.82, 24 hour high: 605.05, 24 hour vwap: 597.461641604
bitcoinpete: and i'm off to the course. ciao!
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: Haha. Sorta? Well I guess Mike Caldwell came in here and it was a discussion about the USG.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: chording keyboard would've worked great on phones << In grad school I became a master of the Blackberry arts. Ran a BES instance with one user (self)
mircea_popescu: so he came ?
thestringpuller: ^- was talking about the dream not RL
thestringpuller: (if that was directed at me)
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7oDhuIPiTQ
assbot: Elizabeth Hurley and Patsy Kensit in "Kill Cruise" (1990) - YouTube
mircea_popescu: ;;google pemphigus
gribble: International Pemphigus Pemphigoid Foundation | a common hope ...: <http://www.pemphigus.org/>; Pemphigus Definition - Diseases and Conditions - Mayo Clinic: <http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/pemphigus/basics/definition/con-20025041>; Pemphigus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pemphigus>
[]bot: Bet placed: 5.01 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin incremental difficulty to increase by 3B or more" http://bitbet.us/bet/783/ Odds: 94(Y):6(N) by coin, 90(Y):10(N) by weight. Total bet: 14.68721769 BTC. Current weight: 47,522.
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1ZqN_VFhdo
assbot: Daft Punk - Da Funk - YouTube
BingoBoingo: %book
atcbot: 35k@250 50k@240 16k@235 | 750k@175 50k@161 216k@160
mircea_popescu: lol that thing was even odds for a while
Vexual: %diff
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 452941.55 in 146 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -36.68
Vexual: fuck 6 months
Vexual: :D
BingoBoingo: %ticker
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 175 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 2k High: 235 Low: 222 VWAP: 222
Vexual: mmmm, the other satoshi
Vexual: ican't belive it's not bitcoin
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKw5mBh4rYs
assbot: ODB - Baby, I got your money [*original uncencored video*] - YouTube
mircea_popescu: "A 1994 study in the United States, which looked at the number of sexual partners in a lifetime, found that 20% of heterosexual men had only one partner, 55% had two to twenty partners, and 25% had more than twenty partners."
xmj: mircea_popescu: des the study list the median?
mircea_popescu: those 5% lied and it's a neat 25-50-25 i bet
Vexual: and mp had a speadsheet
mircea_popescu: Vexual i have no idea how one can go through a lifetime and fuck less than a coupla dozen people.
assbot: Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0WGPF1R.txt )
BingoBoingo: !b 4
mircea_popescu: for that matter, i don't know how one can go through highschool thus.
Vexual: i delete my logs weekly
mircea_popescu: but it'd prolly be pretty sad, rather frustrating and quite boring
Vexual: ;;calc 18/23
gribble: 0.782608695652
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 59 @ 0.04963532 = 2.9285 BTC [-] {27}
BingoBoingo: ;;gettrust muXne
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Vexual!~amnesia@gateway/tor-sasl/vexual. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user muXne: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BingoBoingo&dest=muXne | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=muXne | Rated since: Sun Jun 22 00:11:14 2014
ThickAsThieves: fwiw the Bitcoin Foundation still hasn't provided the free membership they noted all Bitcoin2014 conference attendees would be eligible for
BingoBoingo: ;;rate muXne Markov chain
gribble: Error: 'Markov' is not a valid integer.
ThickAsThieves: not that i want it
ThickAsThieves: but i had to sign up for it to be allowed at their annual meeting
Vexual: bastards.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42500 @ 0.00087364 = 37.1297 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: uh. how would they provide it ?
Vexual: harry potter wand
Vexual: hermione touches you and youre in
ThickAsThieves: by making a account on their website of course
ThickAsThieves: maybe getting added to some email list
mircea_popescu: oh
ThickAsThieves: then i can bitch at them in their forum
mircea_popescu: i didn't get what specifically is involved, other than being on an approved list
ThickAsThieves: it
mircea_popescu: once you're on list X and they say list X got membership that's it, you got it
Vexual: i got a free ticket to hong kong thing, cost me 3bc to be disallowed onto the plane
ThickAsThieves: 's not really anything
ThickAsThieves: i just dont wanna remove the Bitcoin Fundnation thing from my blog :(
mircea_popescu: lol so don't.
Vexual: i want my 3 bc back
ThickAsThieves: This Website is Not a Member
mircea_popescu: btw, do we have any earl of dorset/rochester / pre-"glorious" revolution experts in attendance ?
ThickAsThieves: no, that guy is busy filling out a survey about how many people he's slept with
mircea_popescu: lol wut
ThickAsThieves: sorry, vexual is contagious
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many privately retained vexual interpretation experts exist so far.
Vexual: im not one
mircea_popescu: i aspire that one day the taxpayer should spend more on this than on finding a cure for cancer.
ThickAsThieves: <+Vexual> im not one /// ha! i was gonna day 'does Vexual count?'
Vexual: ive heard my trust clients are happy
mircea_popescu: he can't count, no.
Vexual: i can count
Vexual: for a minute or two
mircea_popescu: http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~jlynch/Texts/mankind.html btw
assbot: Rochester, "A Satyr against Reason and Mankind"
Vexual: i prefered the one about the crow in the swamp
Vexual: prettuer
Vexual: http://www.poetrylibrary.edu.au/poets/lawson-henry/the-ballad-of-mabel-clare-0022053
assbot: The Ballad Of Mabel Clare - Henry Lawson - Poem - Australian Poetry Library
mircea_popescu: australian poet ? seriously ?
mircea_popescu: what is this, the future ?
Vexual: yeah they have to have a punchline
BingoBoingo: !jd mpif
assbot: Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 172.40505278 BTC; +0.42724399 BTC (+0.2484%) since last check 1d 23h 33m 35s ago.
mircea_popescu: look kako, jdice put mpif ahead. quick, do something!
kakobrekla: rm -rf wallet.dat
kakobrekla: ops wrong window.
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: usagi backups ?
kakobrekla: no, i upgraded to no backup at all
mircea_popescu: ;;google no pok
gribble: NO POK - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ieDXIhci7o>; RK House - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBDA_4DKrbM>; No Pork At All - Seven years and comment is non-stop! - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdguyMJprsA>
BingoBoingo: !up cowloon
asciilifeform: does somebody still have log gaps? i've got a nearly continuous ~90MB turd starting at oct. 2012
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you can cut off the part past 1st of may 2013, mthreat can prolly use more copies for coherence.
BingoBoingo: ;;rate muXne 1 Markov chain
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user muXne has been recorded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell moiety What did you do to the Dogers nao???
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06192108 = 0.6192 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 307234 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1213 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 0 hours, 50 minutes, and 8 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16615191009.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.41758
BingoBoingo: What... the... fuck!
mircea_popescu: ikr
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ba-turd.txt.gz
mircea_popescu: mthreat ^
asciilifeform: ^ note that my clock is set to american east time
mircea_popescu: danke
BingoBoingo: !up bocobit
asciilifeform realizes he did not perform the traditional 'year of lurk'
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I think you might predate the tradition
asciilifeform: when did btca materialize anyway ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform roughly speaking april 2012.
mircea_popescu: but i only started using it seriously in august
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.77524885 BTC to 9`505 shares, 18677 satoshi per share
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7543 @ 0.00087 = 6.5624 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00086374 = 17.8794 BTC [-] {2}
dignork: Technocracy step I : http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1820&re=1
assbot: Shtetl-Optimized » Blog Archive » Eigenmorality
punkman: "So, how would an eigendemocracy suss out the truth about who trusts whom on which subject?  I don’t have a very good answer to this, and am open to suggestions.  The best idea so far is to use Facebook for this purpose, but I don’t know exactly how."
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: punkman who's this ?
punkman: dignork's link
mircea_popescu: o yea
mircea_popescu: dignork maybe suggest this chan to the author ?
dignork: I don't know him personally, will throw a comment
mircea_popescu: !up ak__
mircea_popescu: incidentally his definition is both a) quite strong and b) what i actually use
mircea_popescu: the proposition that it's borne by history seems also quite defensible
BingoBoingo: http://oglaf.com/morality/
assbot: Morality Play
BingoBoingo: http://oglaf.com/morality/
assbot: Morality Play
mircea_popescu: lol funny fit
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as english language free press. << OMG Trilema's jig is up!!!
mircea_popescu: it's not teh press omg.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.05300003 = 0.795 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.053 = 1.325 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10157 @ 0.00086735 = 8.8097 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: You sure do use the disclaimers
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.056 = 0.504 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "So for example, even if someone is unfailingly nice to you, if that person is an asshole to everyone else, then the eigenmoses moral code would demand that you return the person’s cooperation with icy defection."
mircea_popescu: lol such bs.
mircea_popescu: the model needs ego.
mthreat: <+Azelphur> mthreat: I hear you want logs? I have Apr 11 2012 onwards << myeah that'd be great
ThickAsThieves: <+BingoBoingo> ThickAsThieves: You sure do use the disclaimers /// pretty pro, huh?
thestringpuller: lol everytime MPOE goes below 800000 there is a buying frenzy
mircea_popescu: yeah bro
thestringpuller: 80000 sastoshi*
thestringpuller: ugh
mircea_popescu: Even though the measures acquit themselves well in this particular tournament, it’s admittedly easy to construct scenarios where the prescriptions of eigenjesus and eigenmoses alike violently diverge from most people’s moral intuitions. We’ve already touched on a few such scenarios above (for example, are you really morally obligated to lick the boots of someone who kicks you, just because that person is a saint
mircea_popescu: to everyone other than you?). << dpends if you're aiming to lead or to follow.
mircea_popescu: does anyone feel like putting some work into python simulation ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.05699475 = 0.6269 BTC [+] {2}
thestringpuller: python for simulations...? sound like it'll be running a long time...
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller academics, what do they know.
mircea_popescu: punkman1 what are you doing these days ?
ThickAsThieves: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/28l0pf/most_blatant_extortion_ive_ever_seen_on/
assbot: Most blatant extortion I've ever seen on localbitcoins.com forums : Bitcoin
dignork: ThickAsThieves: the guy obviously doesn't know that LBC trades are going through escrow, so he can only damage some ratings. That is, unless buyers are clinical idiots, and release funds first.
mircea_popescu: let's run through this dignork
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05699467 = 1.1399 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: you (D) want to buy LTC. Seller (S) and scammer (X) and escrow (E) are the other players.
mircea_popescu: d contacts x, x contacts s, sets up deal with e, obtains bank acct.
mircea_popescu: x sends bank acct to d, d pays to account, s receives it, s says so to e
mircea_popescu: e releases ltc to x
mircea_popescu: x disappears.
mircea_popescu: escrow deals are easily defeated by triangulation, which is why wot is still a thing where escrow is a noob toy.
mircea_popescu: rather than vice-versa.
dignork: x will have to show his escrow balance, otherwise d won't pay
mircea_popescu: d doesn't know to ask.
mircea_popescu: x has a multitude of ways to fake it, too.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 26 @ 0.05592064 = 1.4539 BTC [-] {2}
dignork: this is d assumed to be an idiot, or x have non-trivial ability to impersonate e
mircea_popescu: both are true to sufficient degree for the practical needs of the swindle in question.
mircea_popescu: think of it, this is a space where fucktarded "community members" aptly represented by the "bitcoin foundation" and well catered for by the power rangers a) gave half a million btc to trendon shavers and then b) gave half a million btc to silk road
mircea_popescu: thus creating a one million btc headache for me and everyone else seriously comitted to making btc the end of western style government.
dignork: well, so e would be able to fight it in court, but e doesn't want to get into court in the first place, so yeah, it has some merits
benkay: <ThickAsThieves> perfect contender for a bitcoin jesushood then // bitcoin crucifixion
mircea_popescu: dignork for that matter, x can simply convey d's request for proof to e
mircea_popescu: e has to satisfy it.
mircea_popescu: x now can prove to d.
mircea_popescu: now how many "escrows" on the "market" have the sense to include a "Issued for use of X" thus defeating this mitm ?
mircea_popescu: yes, they have to be clinically brain injured, as you say. guess what ? they fucking are
mircea_popescu: and they think this is fine and "a community"
dignork: mircea_popescu: LBC can divert this attack, by making e submit bank details
mircea_popescu: and fuck you for being mean and dispariging them
dignork: then x won't be able to open a trading account with duplicate details
mircea_popescu: maybe
mircea_popescu: that's the most you get here, a sort of up and down and all around maybe.
mircea_popescu: and by now yuour defense has reduced to trying to implement a broken sort of wot anyway
dignork: it is a general weak system problem - anyone knowing my bank account details (any freaking vendor i had business before) can create bad transactions in my name, he might get some money, or not, I'll definitely get some headache
asciilifeform: dignork: whenever you see a field where it seems as if 'cryptography never happened' - answer is always a misallocation of 'skin in game'
asciilifeform: e.g. bank doesn't eat the loss from fraud
benkay: <mircea_popescu> sort-of like the teenage slut born to wealth that skips a lot of school, and gets herself knocked up. not only is she getting some candy to "compensate" her for the abortion, but she also gets to blame her cocaine habit on the bad boy that "seduced" her. // my favorite is the one who gets her own condo and a photo studio to play with and raise her kid in
mircea_popescu: hey, mine too.
mircea_popescu: dignork even if you take the banks out of it, the escrow model is still weak to distributed identity attacks
mircea_popescu: which is a degenerate form taken by sybil attack in the degenerate wot that escrow is
benkay: ;;later tell bitcoinpete <bitcoinpete> at the club i ran into some classmates from highschool. the looks on their faces were pretty golden // whence the startle?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, this scam has a history older than steam. entreprising young american fellows used to canvass old world ads for girls looking to marry, then forward the details to old rich american to pay for thepassage
mircea_popescu: and pick the girl up himself.
mircea_popescu: women being a... consumable commodity, which once consumed has very strong incentives to stick
asciilifeform: this scam will never die. every so often around here you hear of somebody caught stealing packages from doorsteps. same idea.
asciilifeform: the thief may or may not have 'insider' tip on who just ordered new laptop, gold bar, etc
mircea_popescu: and in principle, to make the point whole, for all those who wish the "good old days" were to return : they can not. they have been defeated in the field, through being weak to such things.
mircea_popescu: i know for one i would never marry in other way than through making some old fart pay for it thus, were i living in 1814
mircea_popescu: as a matter of principle.
mircea_popescu: and so you can't have any sort of "conservative morality" predicated on anything in the set of ("women not being sluts", "god fearing", "wealth and power by age rather than with and connection")
mircea_popescu: s/with/wit
punkman: mircea_popescu: yeah maybe I can do a simulation
asciilifeform: simulation of what ?
mircea_popescu: punkman i would be very interested to see what happens if someone were to take the guy;'s idea, clean all the crap off it, and then add what's missing.
mircea_popescu: by crap i mean, i suspect the academic used WAY TO FEW bots. use 100s of each type, and do millions of rounds, for goof statistics. similar things.
asciilifeform: ah that
asciilifeform: ;;google social learning tournament
gribble: Social Learning Strategies Tournament - The Laland Lab: <http://lalandlab.st-andrews.ac.uk/tournaments/tournament1/sociallearning.html>; Social Learning Strategies Tournament II - The Laland Lab: <http://lalandlab.st-andrews.ac.uk/tournaments/tournament2/Social_Learning_Strategies_Tournament_II_Rules.pdf>; Social Learning Strategies Tournament | Facebook: (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: and by what's missing, i mean ego. the bots must consider themselves equally important to the whole world.
dignork: mircea_popescu: what kind of data do you want to use, current WoT is tiny
mircea_popescu: which is, if this switch can either kill me or kill the world, throwing it is even odds.
mircea_popescu: dignork random generated.
asciilifeform: (think: axelrod's classic 'prisoner' tournament - 'on steroids')
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i recall we discussingsomething similar months ago
mircea_popescu: http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=axelrod
assbot: axelrod
mircea_popescu: here we go
mircea_popescu: omfg i love mthreat
asciilifeform: the laland tourney is considerably more interesting imho
punkman: mircea_popescu, I'll give it a look, see how much I grok
mircea_popescu: works.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform which one was that ?
mircea_popescu: punkman prolly also drop the guy a link to the logs
mircea_popescu: multiple sources can't hurt :p
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 39 @ 0.055 = 2.145 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2989663
assbot: Why Copy Others? Insights from the Social Learning Strategies Tournament
asciilifeform: ^ paper on winners from Tourney 1
mircea_popescu: punkman also, the bs "nice" has to be thrown out, it's meaningless. just count who starts wars.
mircea_popescu: (which approach probably would improve the original paper a lot too, just re-do it but not counting totals, merely counting cases of backstabbing)
mircea_popescu: probably publishable as a paper if you can be bothered to run in that threadmill
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the part i find the lulziest about these recent academic papers on google page rank is just how utterly broken it is in the field, defeated by hundreds if not thousands of different approaches implemented by scores more different agencies.
asciilifeform: the gods of spam - always win
mircea_popescu: it's almost as if being a scientist consisted entirely of beating the cheap boarding houses and asylums to select out of the pox ridden old hags "the paragons of beauty"
mircea_popescu: that perhaps they were, twenty years prior, back in their flap days
mircea_popescu: (for the esl folk, a flap is an affectionate term for a prepubescent prostitute, also used for uppity, vivacious girls in general, as a testament to the traditional positive social view on tween prostitution)
asciilifeform: seniority-based structure will do that.
mircea_popescu: quite.
asciilifeform: obligatory:
asciilifeform: ;;google tarver decline and fall
gribble: Why I am Not a Professor - Lambda Associates: <http://www.lambdassociates.org/blog/decline.htm>; my pdf copy: <http://babel.ls.fi.upm.es/~pablo/Jumble/decline.pdf>; Former HCC student charged in 1-year-old's death - Herald-Mail: <http://articles.herald-mail.com/2013-05-28/news/39587015_1_first-degree-murder-second-degree-murder-former-hcc>
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1943 @ 0.00087151 = 1.6933 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: 'You can routinely find lecturers with more than a hundred published papers and you marvel at these paradigms of human creativity. These are people, you think, who are fit to challenge Mozart who wrote a hundred pieces or more of music. And then you get puzzled that, in this modern world, there should be so many Mozarts - almost one for every department. The more prosaic truth emerges when you scan the titles
asciilifeform: of these epics. First, the author rarely appears alone, sharing space with two or three others. Often the collaborators are Ph.D. students who are routinely doing most of the spade work on some low grant in the hope of climbing the greasy pole. Dividing the number of titles by the author's actual contribution probably reduces those hundred papers to twenty-five. Then looking at the titles themselves, you'll see
asciilifeform: that many of the titles bear a striking resemblance to each other. "Adaptive Mesh Analysis" reads one and "An Adaptive Algorithm for Mesh Analysis" reads another. Dividing the total remaining by the average number of repetitions halves the list again. Mozart disappears before your very eyes.'
mircea_popescu: i'm not a professor because i find fucking and beating a few selected girls at a time a lot more effectual than merely speaking to an entire gaggle, who also cling to naive misrepresentations as of their "rights" and "freedoms".
benkay: "For wits are treated just like common whores:
benkay: First they're enjoyed, and then kicked out of doors."
mircea_popescu: how're enjoyin' the logs mr vulpes ?
mircea_popescu: lol derp goes right into how "they've won the scientific debate on climate change"
mircea_popescu: except "deniers make phony think tanks"
asciilifeform: where's this
mircea_popescu: same article above, with the bad model for evaluating bots.
mircea_popescu: by now im quite thankful for this entire global warming scam. it saves me so much reading.
asciilifeform: it's a scam of the desperation/starvation variety. armies of folks conned into burning their lives for 'degree' want to eat.
asciilifeform: want to stave off Butugychag.
mircea_popescu: in a sense their intuition is quite correct : the world is in fact ending.
mircea_popescu: just, their world isn't really THE world. but then again who knows this ever.
benkay: "Adore those shrines of virtue, homage pay,
benkay: And, with the rabble world, their laws obey.
benkay: If such there be, yet grant me this at least: [220]
benkay: Man differs more from man, than man from beast."
mircea_popescu: goatfuckers had a point all along huh
benkay: log challenge doesn't grow less with the ability to parse it quickly - now all the time saved reading quickly and ignoring the noise goes into reading the things herein linked.
benkay: particularly good reading today, mircea_popescu, ty to yourself and asciilifeform
benkay: and i think punkman
benkay: mmm. search engines.
mircea_popescu: i think the deal is kako gets the praise for the logs,
mircea_popescu: i just get the arguments
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18550 @ 0.00086331 = 16.0144 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: pfhah
mircea_popescu: ha! now this may be a good formalisation of the vc problem. birdy whispers in my ear : "all those guys trying for financial dominance without intellectual dominance ? ya, that'll work..."
mthreat: <mircea_popescu> btw mthreat wouldja be interested in filling in the logs for the first missing year, and generate a drop-in blob kakobrekla can put into his log thing too ? << I got asciilifeform's ba-turd file. But I'm not sure what format kako wants. search.b-a gets all of its info from log.b-a by crawling, since I link to it in the search results.
mircea_popescu: ah
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla what format would you want ?
thestringpuller: !mpif
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021754 BTC (Total: 435.09 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021726 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: mthreat the linking is particularly useful tho. is the crawl inefficient ?
mthreat: mircea_popescu: not really, it's pretty easy.
mircea_popescu: cool
mircea_popescu: past days don't change anyway so you do once a day as it were ?
mthreat: once Iset up the cron, yeah something like that :) Maybe twice a day, whatever.
mircea_popescu: cool.
benkay: this eigenmoses and eigenjesus stuff is interesting in that sir thomas moore follows the eigenjesus strategy
mircea_popescu: benkay how do you figure ? and it's more
mthreat: kako may choose to renumber the ids (used for the <a href> anchors) since he'll be backfilling prior to his current "epoch" day
mthreat: if he does that, i'll just have to recrawl to make the links work
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.0589999 = 1.711 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.0008669 = 18.5517 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: can just use negative
mircea_popescu: seems more... apt.
mthreat: heh... like 300 BC
mircea_popescu: yup
mthreat: we'll call it "BMT" before mthreat
mircea_popescu: hahaha
benkay: well i'm probably wrong, but STM doesn't actively work against KR - just refuses to help him in his immoral quest
mircea_popescu: you are not humble and therefore can not be given a ton of power.
benkay: "Imagine, for instance, that 98% of the players are unfailingly nice to each other, but unfailingly cruel to the remaining 2% (who they can recognize, let’s say, by their long noses or darker skin—some trivial feature like that). Meanwhile, the put-upon 2% return the favor by being nice to each other and mean to the 98%. Who, in this scenario, is moral, and who’s immoral? The mathematical verdict of both eigenmoses and eigenjesus is
benkay: unequivocal: the 98% are almost perfectly good, while the 2% are almost perfectly evil. After all, the 98% are nice to almost everyone, while the 2% are mean to those who are nice to almost everyone, and nice only to a tiny minority who are mean to almost everyone. Of course, for much of human history, this is precisely how morality worked, in many people’s minds. But I dare say it’s a result that would make moderns uncomfortable."
mircea_popescu: benkay you read what, the book ? saw the movie ?
benkay: i've only seen the movie.
benkay: i'm referring to the character in the play/movie.
mircea_popescu: yes well. more is a loyal subject of the king.
mircea_popescu: what do you mean "work against" ?
benkay: yeah, good question.
mircea_popescu: what is this revolutionary scandalous licentiousness where a subject may be allowed to pass himself as moral agent equal to his sovereign ?
benkay: i mean i need more coffee and a caning.
benkay: but if the sovereign is demonstrably immoral and god sayeth otherwise?
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mircea_popescu: a sovereign can not be demonstrably immoral tho is the problem
benkay: my loyalty is first to god - and then the king.
decimation: benkay: is that quote from the play?
benkay: decimation: my tortured imagination.
mircea_popescu: what quote
asciilifeform: bus driver can demonstrably suck (machine careens of a cliff.) it does not follow that bus should be rebuilt with a steering wheel for each passenger - etc
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform except what is a cliff ?
benkay: divorce ;)
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: the situation where the sovereign is a dumbass can not be distinguished from the situation where evil people are prevailing with their treason and schemes upon the monarch by loyal subjects
mircea_popescu: this is yet again the degenerate form of the sybill attack for a degenerate wot
mircea_popescu: there's very little difference between feudalism and escrow
mircea_popescu: in fact, feudalism is a means of working land held in escrow.
mircea_popescu: lemme try for proper english over here.
benkay: it boils down to he who may destroy is the sovereign?
mircea_popescu: loyal subjects can not distinguish the situation where the sovereign is a dumbass from the situation where evil people are prevailing with their treason and schemes.
mircea_popescu: benkay you will note that more only forms a moral judgement once he is no longer subject to his king
mircea_popescu: ie, once they get that schmuck to lie under oath and convict him of treason
decimation: indeed, giving those loyal subjects universal sufferage solves nothing
benkay: that's when he discloses it. it's clear he's had the opinion for a long time.
mircea_popescu: no such thing is clear.
benkay: hm
decimation: that very point was the climax of the movie (man for all seasons)
kakobrekla: mthreat dunno, csv, mysql, what have you got ?
mircea_popescu: decimation nah, the climax was when he shows himself an eunuch
mthreat: kakobrekla: I'll be parsing the log file asciilifeform provided, so I can put it in whatever format, or you can just take the irc log file and parse it on your end.
mircea_popescu: up to the point where he rebuffs roper you may entertain the notion more is a whole man. but after he admits he will grant the other's safety for his own safety's sake you know he's not.
mircea_popescu: mthreat ever got mine ?
mthreat: belgium beats russia 1-0
mthreat: mircea_popescu: yeah but asciilifeform's overlaps
mircea_popescu: mine starts earlier im pretty sure ? or not ?
kakobrekla: my logs are all fucked up i dun wanna parse that.
mircea_popescu: ideally this should be done once and cover the whole shjebang
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla ship them to him ?
mthreat: yours only had march/april 2013 I think
mircea_popescu: 2012. look again.
kakobrekla: but if theres a coherent version out there i can parse it
mircea_popescu: and also ever got Azelphur's version ?
mthreat: mircea_popescu: not yet
kakobrekla: my logs are more work than worth
mircea_popescu: kako a ok
mthreat: kakobrekla: also you'll have to figure out how to number entries before your current entry #1 (April 26, 2013)
kakobrekla: into negative ofc
mircea_popescu: here's an interesting if unrelated point : what characteristic of classical english theatre, cca 1600s, was shared by both classical french and italian, but not ever since ? so that 99.x% of all good plays, all good actors and all good performances have this one thing in common, that's not been seen again ?
mircea_popescu: (and the same holds for opera)
decimation: exquisite set-making?
mircea_popescu: mnope
decimation: well, I don't have french or italian, but Shakspeare's plays were ... poetry
mircea_popescu: turns out, it's that they were all produced for a small audience of the same people.
mircea_popescu: consequently the producers were forced to iterate a lot and fail fast
mircea_popescu: and the audience knew the craft better than any debutante.
mircea_popescu: such are the blessings of closed society : that art may flourish. democracy and social mobility allows for no such thing.
decimation: Thomas Carlyle on the wisdom of crowds: "Your ship cannot double Cape Horn by its excellent plans of voting. The ship may vote this and that, above decks and below, in the most harmonious exquisitely constitutional manner: the ship, to get round Cape Horn, will find a set of conditions already voted for, and fixed with adamantine rigour by the ancient Elemental Powers, who are entirely careless how you vote." http://books.google.com/
assbot: Google Books
decimation: books?id=5OsNAQAAMAAJ
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many of the inept scientists of today realise just how amusing their global warming pretenses are
mircea_popescu: "lo and behold, we should be affraid that democracy is now in peril of falling out of the box and revoting cape horn"
decimation: the Patagonian cliffs care not for word-smithing and spinning
benkay: i've always thought it a rather bad idea to be burning everything at hand, just on the principle that i don't want to be breathing crap all the time.
mthreat: mircea_popescu: ok once I get Azelphur's, i'll turn them all into a mysql dump and send it to kakobrekla. Then once kako gets them on log.b-a, i'll just crawl-backfill.
mircea_popescu: benkay problem is that approach contradicts the "world peace" approach. not burn anytihng at hand but clothe and feed anyone at hand ?
decimation: one can simultaneously believe global warming is a scam and also consider the coal plant down the street to be ruinous
mircea_popescu: would you rather have soot or shit ?
decimation: plutonium for me
mircea_popescu: mthreat seems reasonable. were yopu able to find my 2012 bits or did i accidentally only send you one file of two ?
mircea_popescu: decimation no no, "we should tax everything and put the money into '''research'''"
mircea_popescu: only THAT is the correct way to solve all the world's p[roblems
mircea_popescu: in other words, two mice disagreed once on how to split a chunk of cheese they had found. so the cat ate the cheese, and the mice.
decimation: actually, at least one of the mice was probably on the cat's side
decimation: after all, it's better to have no humans at all than to have kulaks etc
mircea_popescu: yes. one of the mice was oi the cat's left side
mircea_popescu: while the other in the right
mthreat: mircea_popescu: yah you were correct. But as you said, your log has gaps, so hopefully Azelphur's logs are more complete.
mircea_popescu: hopefully ya
mircea_popescu: to be a modest chap, the logs kinda exist because i had this irresponsible attitude where i'd only log while awake, and so things got lost.
mircea_popescu: let it not be said that irresponsible laziness has not made nice things
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is one of those weirdos who actually turns his computer on and off ?!
mircea_popescu: yea
decimation: well, one can be certain of its state when power is not applied
mircea_popescu: ^
decimation: save wake-on-lan nastiness
mircea_popescu: no such thing
asciilifeform: someone actually uses wake on lan !?!
decimation: well, impi, remote access, all the same kind of thing
asciilifeform: who the hell has impi on a 'human' box ?
decimation: I considered buying a server with that feature so I could remotely access it without a monitor
mircea_popescu: Instituto Mexicano de la Propiedad Industrial. Registre su marca hoy.
decimation: but yeah, not on a workstation
decimation: I'm glad I didn't in retrospect - was gonna buy a supermicro - before, I could pretend it was secure, now we know otherwise
asciilifeform: i never understood the popularity of the crud. an ip-kvm is what, a few hundy? why attach proprietary strange to your front bus?
decimation: well, to me the major attraction beside the ip-kvm is the power cycle feature
decimation: but that can be had for even less money honestly
asciilifeform: the high-end kvm have power relays
decimation: interestingly, old dell RAC cards had a feature where you could actually "view" the monitor over ssh
asciilifeform: is ipmi one of those 'may as well hang for a sheep' affairs, where folks use intel cpu, etc and know they're already owned anyway
asciilifeform: e.g. whore with aids might as well contract syphilis
decimation: yeah you are right ascii, but you do realize that nearly all public and private entities in the US fall into that category
decimation: here's how the SEC put it: http://investor.gov/news-alerts/investor-alerts/investor-alert-bitcoin-other-virtual-currency-related-investments
assbot: Investor Alert: Bitcoin and Other Virtual Currency-Related Investments | Investor.gov
decimation: "Not insured. While securities accounts at U.S. brokerage firms are often insured by the Securities Investor Protection Corporation (SIPC) and bank accounts at U.S. banks are often insured by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), bitcoins held in a digital wallet or Bitcoin exchange currently do not have similar protections."
decimation: why would you want to live outside the benevolent "protection" of USG?
decimation: honestly that "alert" is a pretty good pitch for Bitcoin
thestringpuller: how would you even insure bitcoins and who would insure them?
thestringpuller: only MP has the capital to actually insure anyone...
thestringpuller: (insure anyone worht insuring)
mircea_popescu: nobody can insure bitcoin in the sipc/fdic sense, because nobody can print them.
mircea_popescu: that type of insurance is typical manufacturer insurance, "that the product be free of defects or replaced"
thestringpuller: what about the sense of car insurance?
mircea_popescu: and so in this sense, it's not that bitcoin isn't insured in that way. it's moreover that bank deposits etc aren't, and the continuance of the fraudulent pretense to the contrary promulgated by various usg agencies among which the sec above strictly depends on it not being needed.
thestringpuller: wow
thestringpuller: profound...
thestringpuller: (cause it's true)
decimation: mircea_popescu: Indeed, which is why this "alert" is so amusing. "Seizing or freezing bitcoins. Law enforcement officials may have difficulty seizing or freezing illicit proceeds held in bitcoins. Bitcoin wallets are encrypted and unlike money held in a bank or brokerage account, bitcoins may not be held by a third-party custodian."
decimation: Don't use Bitcoin because we can't take it away from you, at our option
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: but that's exactly the concept. my slavegirl might not want to visit you in a room you can lock at your option.
decimation: so to be clear, it used to be the case that in order for someone to seize "your" money, they had to show up at your house and take your physical coins
mircea_popescu: !up nerdfiles
mircea_popescu: well yes, but this was before a time people expected the king pick up their apothecary bill.
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decimation: lol Carlyle has the same "non-persons" theory: "If the unfathomable Universe has decided to reject Human Beavers pretending to be Men; and will abolish, pretty rapidly perhaps, in hideous mud-deluges, their 'markets' and them, unless they think of it??In that case it were better to think of it: and the Democracies and Universal Suffrages, I can observe, will require to modify themselves a good deal!"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.19735993 = 0.9868 BTC [+] {3}
thestringpuller: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 307250 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1197 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 6 hours, 24 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16522880011.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.7319
mircea_popescu: decimation and so they have modified themselves. no man living with carlyle would regard the average existence of today's westerner as anything but the most abject imprisonment
thestringpuller: ;;gettrust casascius
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user casascius: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=casascius | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=casascius | Rated since: Fri May 13 00:14:25 2011
mircea_popescu: so... they've modified themselves, to take more cock with less fretting.
moiety: ;; later tell BingoBoingo I simply said "fuck you" to someone and the whole place started convulsing with butthurt.. and then made it worse by demonstrating remorse lvl : -40
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: wait wut
moiety: i upset the doge people last night
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0586998 = 0.6457 BTC [+]
benkay: <zrobo> cryptsy.com: 1 dogecoin = 56 satoshis. coindesk price $0.0003. 24 hr volume: 310 megadoge
benkay: http://celiabasto.tumblr.com/post/88217340700
assbot: celia basto | 100% art | 100% ART
punkman: let there be blog http://extemporized.com/
assbot: extemporized
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15550 @ 0.00087187 = 13.5576 BTC [+] {2}
chetty: moiety: don't you know women are not allowed to curse
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.0586999 = 0.7631 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: ;;later tell vexual log would be better off without your jewtube links.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
moiety: chetty: i'm a disgrace i know XD i find it so hard when they are such idiots
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 26 @ 0.0586999 = 1.5262 BTC [-]
penguirker: New blog post: http://extemporized.com/2014/introducing-bitbet-py/
penguirker: New blog post: http://extemporized.com/2014/hello-world/
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> such are the blessings of closed society : that art may flourish. democracy and social mobility allows for no such thing. //// or a *small* society --- but maybe i'm splitting hairs
FabianB: mircea_popescu: my logs are burried in old backups on disks at a place i'm unlikely to be at in the next 2 to 3 weeks, so unless it's still useful by then i'll keep them there
mircea_popescu: FabianB kk
mircea_popescu: <punkman> let there be blog http://extemporized.com/ << yours ?
assbot: extemporized
ThickAsThieves: sweet
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the smaller it gets, the harder it is to say
mircea_popescu: "democracy" as practiced among a hundred that know each other is no democracy anyway
ThickAsThieves: understood, i'm more pointing out that size is a factor, as in, it being closed isn't enough, it also can't be large
ThickAsThieves: i also wonder if age is a factor as well
ThickAsThieves: probably on a curve
chetty: ThickAsThieves,avg life in the time frame was short, if you lived very long you likely had more wisdom (which is why you lived)
ThickAsThieves: i'm more referring to the the dynamics of a closed society in an effort to bring quality/robustness or whatever
chetty: not sure age counts for much anymore
ThickAsThieves: age of the group
ThickAsThieves: not the individual
ThickAsThieves: maybe inextricable
chetty: I think closed is kinda relative tho, more like the semi-permeable membrane
ThickAsThieves: like #b-a
chetty: exactly
chetty: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_JURORS_SOCIAL_MEDIA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-06-22-11-58-35
assbot: News from The Associated Press
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00086737 = 1.4312 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: http://btcoracle.com/index.php is this OneFixt?
assbot: BTCOracle | bitcoin binary options trading
ThickAsThieves: !up OneFixt
OneFixt: yup
OneFixt: wait, no
ThickAsThieves: lol
OneFixt: not me, misread
OneFixt: lol
ThickAsThieves: good to know
ThickAsThieves kinda misses btc options
ThickAsThieves: coindesk has to articles about people offering bitcoin options, neither mentions mpex
mircea_popescu: well it doesn't offer them anymore
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves can't be large ? hm. the hansa was very large. i believe it can be quite large.
Mats_cd03: i wonder how long it will take for a decent price signal to materialize
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41200 @ 0.00086529 = 35.6499 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: there's little incentive for it yet.
ThickAsThieves: look at that boner https://icbit.se/WebTrade/Trading.aspx
assbot: ICBIT Web Trading
mircea_popescu: OneFixt you got teh logs ?
OneFixt: which logs?
mircea_popescu: of here.
OneFixt: some, why?
mircea_popescu: ah. well we're trying to make a canonical version of 2012 - april 2013
mircea_popescu: if you got usable stuff dump to mthreat
OneFixt: ah
OneFixt: mine is not at all easy to dump unfortunately
mircea_popescu: kay.
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 596.1, Best ask: 598.15, Bid-ask spread: 2.05000, Last trade: 598.15, 24 hour volume: 4096.67247212, 24 hour low: 587.82, 24 hour high: 605.05, 24 hour vwap: 598.315804175
FabianB: $traded
empyex: FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE X.EUR
penguirker: New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/unii-sunt-putin-luati-da-altii-saracii-sunt-luati-rau-de-tot-mai-frate/
[]bot: Bet created: "Apple stock to close at over $100 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/956/
[]bot: Bet created: "Facebook stock to close at over $70 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/957/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00086276 = 5.4785 BTC [-]
Namworld: Apple stock at 100? Was there a split or did it drop a lot? I think it was around 500-800 not long ago.
mthreat: split 7-to-1
[]bot: Bet created: "Haruki Murakami to win lit Nobel" http://bitbet.us/bet/958/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0560047 = 0.56 BTC [+]
mthreat: mircea_popescu: have you managed to find good pizza in this town?
mircea_popescu: mthreat american good pizza or romanian good pizza ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05597559 = 1.1195 BTC [-] {3}
mthreat: mircea_popescu: what would be considered good in italy or germany. I've never had romanian pizza
mthreat: #1, HAS tomato sauce
mircea_popescu: it's kjinda it's own thing. imo better than italian.
mthreat: here it's mostly bread and cheese
mircea_popescu: anyway, trained girlz, can make it. i care not for the city :D
mthreat: magic
mircea_popescu: but yes, tomatoes, definitely, and mushroom,s and artichoke hearts and anchovies and so on
punkman: mircea_popescu: <punkman> let there be blog http://extemporized.com/ << yours ? << yes
assbot: extemporized
punkman: I think I should make a special feed for penguin though
mircea_popescu: seems it picks it up jus' fine
punkman: lest there be two dozen recipes posted one day
punkman: did nubbins have a blog, or am I remembering some other sausage-blog
mircea_popescu: nubsy is a contrarian. he doesn't have altcoins, he doesn't have blogs, he goes his own way damneit@!
mthreat: There was this romanian restaurant in Austin. It was called "Dracula".
[]bot: Bet created: "Anyone other than Messi/Ronaldo/Suarez to win the 2014 FIFA Ballon d'Or" http://bitbet.us/bet/959/
mircea_popescu: surprisingly.
punkman: so once upon the time I was a math student, but then I forgot everything, and now I'm looking for a couple of good books. I found this one http://www.amazon.com/dp/0486409163/ . Any other suggestions?
assbot: Mathematics: Its Content, Methods and Meaning (Dover Books on Mathematics): A. D. Aleksandrov, A. N. Kolmogorov, M. A. Lavrentev, Mathematics: 9780486409160: Amazon.com: Books
punkman: "upon the time" ftw
punkman: feeling russian
mircea_popescu: punkman L.D.Landau and E.M.Leifshitz. all the math one could ever want.
mircea_popescu: if it doesn't DO something it's not math anyway.
asciilifeform: punkman: 'All the Mathematics You Missed' (Garrity) if impatient/american
asciilifeform: punkman: otherwise what mircea_popescu said
mircea_popescu: wow someone agrees ?!
mircea_popescu: i thought that's like, my most heretic view.
asciilifeform: the 'content methods & meaning' by dover is a pretty fine encyclopaedic text
asciilifeform: i especially liked the 'obsolete' chapter on mechanical computers
asciilifeform: also ask yourself, which mathematics
punkman: this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Course_of_Theoretical_Physics ?
assbot: Course of Theoretical Physics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
asciilifeform: l&l is geared to methods of theoretical physics (landau's famous 'minimum' exam)
asciilifeform: punkman: a good refresher text on discrete maths / computability /etc. is hopcroft & ullman
asciilifeform: http://faraday.fie.umich.mx/~rrusiles/Fie/Horizontal/Hopcroft_Introduction_to_Automata_Theory_Languages_and_Computation.pdf
asciilifeform: ^ unfortunately not the edition with the hot chick on the cover
asciilifeform: but full text
punkman: mircea_popescu: probably publishable as a paper if you can be bothered to run in that threadmill << not a big fan of academics, but I can blag it now
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.05300046 = 0.583 BTC [-] {4}
punkman: I was looking at a few interesting papers from this guy the other day http://dpennock.com/
thestringpuller: punkman: bitbet.py is dope
Mats_cd03: http://econbrowser.com/archives/2014/06/iraq-oil-markets-and-the-u-s-economy
assbot: Iraq, oil markets, and the U.S. economy | Econbrowser
thestringpuller: I'll have to see how you did colorization
Mats_cd03: and... http://www.sfgate.com/business/networth/article/3-reasons-Iraq-conflict-isn-t-driving-up-gas-5569945.php
assbot: 3 reasons Iraq conflict isn't driving up gas prices (yet) - SFGate
mircea_popescu: punkman that is a point
mircea_popescu: by now the research paper journals are little more than blogs anyway.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 78 @ 0.01735 = 1.3533 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 5 reasons why losing 10 years' investment in iraq isn't a disaster, 5 reason why higher inflation isn't higher inflation, 5 reasons why the failure of each and every obamapolicy isn't a failure of the left, or of blacks, or of the electoral system, or of the general public,
mircea_popescu: on it goes. 5 reasons why fucking up is okay and starvation isn't imminent.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8353 @ 0.00085902 = 7.1754 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: 5 conspiracy theories that are actually real
thestringpuller: more at 11
punkman: heh "JOSS defaults to cooperation on the first turn, and thereafter mirrors its partner's previous move, except after its partner cooperates, JOSS defects with some probability to see what it can get away with every once in a while."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.05699603 = 1.1969 BTC [+] {2}
decimation: thanks for the book asciilifeform
BingoBoingo: %diff
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 450695.27 in 113 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -37.00
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33260 @ 0.00084838 = 28.2171 BTC [-] {2}
punkman: BingoBoingo: we need like 220 blocks a day for that bet
BingoBoingo: punkman: Yeah, it's going to be tricky. Wonder how much hash is going to arrive after the diff change
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 24 * 3600 / 512
gribble: 168.75
punkman: so we must be doing like 100 a day now?
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 168.75 * .63
gribble: 106.3125