BingoBoingo: The lack of freeze here seems to contribute to the softness of the locals
mod6: im building a cuntoo right now.
mod6: trying to generate some more heat
mod6: gotta get some miners in here
a111: Logged on 2019-01-29 18:16 asciilifeform: re argintines, somehow i entirely escaped finding out about 'villa-31' (
http://ru-ar.ru/villa31 notbad www re subj ) , rio-style favela right inside b-a
mircea_popescu: the problem is not even that it exists, but that it fails to produce the mireilles d'arc one'd expect, ie slender hungry young hotties.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that was right next to a "high value" site of pomposity further north ; in truth there's a LOT of these in the city of "nightlife" that dun exist and "university professors" with the socks bought on credit.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-29 18:31 asciilifeform: rom eu are carrying vacuum cleaners, tv sets, computers... country of deficits, like ye olde su'
mircea_popescu: deficits, principally biological. old su, deficits principally material.
mircea_popescu: because improvised heaters because insane law against heating because etc.
mircea_popescu: whereas argentards, no law, they supply the constraint naturally -- be being indescribable morons.
mircea_popescu: similarily they don't WRITE anything. su had samizdat BECAUSE REASONS. argentina doesn't have it, nor does it have said reasons. because NO NEED to. might as well pass legislation to forbid cattle the making of stalin jokes.
mircea_popescu: and for all the "white supremacist" morons : no fucking wonder they dun wanna discuss argentina.
mircea_popescu: whiter than 80%+ of the us ; as dumb as anything in the congo basin.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-29#1890613 << in any approach, this is roughly the issue in vzla also : socialists tryna hard to discuss their internal problems, wholly owned and entirely due TO SOCIALISM in terms of external influence. trotsky was "fascist" don't you know, and maduro is "authoritarian" and whatnot.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2019-01-29 18:36 BingoBoingo: Apparently at some point the local socialists called up Rudy Giulianni for advice on countering petty crime. But... the pichis still get their pasta base and the number of rapiñas keep climbing.
mircea_popescu: bullshit. thew problem with socialism, "authoritatian" or "democratic" or blue or green is THAT IT IS SOCIALISM.
mircea_popescu: as proven by the fact that ~any~ non-socialism, authoritarian, democratic or howsoever else, is just fucking fine.
mircea_popescu: but no, gotta talk around the bush, "how should a streetwalker to her make-up to improve her marriage prospects."
mircea_popescu: it's hard to imagine you're in a 20mn strong stockyards sprawling 2-3x the surface area of new york
mircea_popescu: it's constantly a "man, i must just not know where the society gathers / parties are / nightlife happens" etc.
mircea_popescu: this lasts as long as it lasts, but if you're actually me and task girls with finding it, and then they (incomprehensibly, and inexplicably) fail and so you cut the town up into squares and have them search it square by square and still NOTHJING turns up, eventually however many months later you can answer authoritatively : the stockyards are bereft of society.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, some ESL leftists picked up something a Uruguayo "scientific historian"/"national systems" professor wrote in an English translation. It's being chopped up for blog.
mircea_popescu: you also had the benefit of you know, passive enjoyment of ye above work.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I don't know if anyone asked - I've stated it in the blogpost in clear just the same
diana_coman: jurov, admittedly I never used CoinBr so don't know much of its previous online presence but I always thought "online" for such a thing meant mpex-style i.e. anyway gpg-based , no?
jurov: diana_coman: mpex does have website that accepts orders in real time
jurov: I'm be doing any requests manually, not in realtime, hence "offline"
diana_coman: I got that part; my surprise was re why is "accepting gpg-signed orders online" a problem for coinbr given the working model of mpex
diana_coman: it's anyway a realtime-without-guarantees afaik: it eats your order online, sure, but it processes it when it gets to it
jurov: No idea if it's still so, but mpex consisted of proxies directly wired to the order processing backend. Only deposits/withdrawals were processed by hand.
diana_coman: so to put this straight: are you saying that the model you describe (proxies directly wired to the order processing backed) would be a liability for CoinBr or what?
☟︎ jurov: yes, the way I built it (webinterface where you log in) became a liability
diana_coman: but then simply change the interface, following existing non-liability model; what am I missing?
diana_coman: sure, log in is a liability,fine; so no login, but it doesn't follow no online
jurov: I will change the interface when there's any interest. There was no usage past year at all. So, no interface, no online processing, for now.
diana_coman: ah, so that's the part that was missing: there is no interest for an online interface
diana_coman: that way I can at least see it, thanks for clarifying, jurov
a111: Logged on 2019-01-30 12:55 diana_coman: so to put this straight: are you saying that the model you describe (proxies directly wired to the order processing backed) would be a liability for CoinBr or what?
mircea_popescu: i didn't have what to argue against it back in 2016 or w/e it started (not that i didn't see it coming, either) and i've not found anything hence. so...
diana_coman: asciilifeform, read also next para as in any case there isn't much point to not do M-R if you do it at all
diana_coman: but well, it probably all comes from "yes, but we don't do it properly and therefore..."
a111: Logged on 2019-01-24 00:46 asciilifeform: 0.413s for 2048.
Mocky: asciilifeform re zundapp, leaving aside that it dun look much like a classic blitzkrieg bike to me, I'm commenting on the massive side car that makes the pictured item factually unusable, even with windshield removed
Mocky: bullshit, no one used a bike that can't turn right for anything except ridicule. it was used with a proper side car!
Mocky: handlebar is in contact with the sidecar
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-30#1890713 << the fundamental problem with these amateur cryptographers (as well as with other amateur everythings, from amateur presidents of the united states to amateur socioideologues on fetlife ) is that they go by what "is" rather than by what ~does~.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2019-01-30 16:43 asciilifeform: ( as i understand, in koch world fermat test uses ~exactly same # of cycles as 1 shot of m-r )
mircea_popescu: koch is implementing fermat because fermat ~is~ the test, not because fermat ~does~ something.
mircea_popescu: then koch expects to be hired because koch ~is~, whatever the hell he might be, polite, pedigreed, mit-degreed, "famous" in the smartphone sense etcetera.
Mocky: asciilifeform: maybe my eye is misreading the perspective, which would make more sense, but that's how it looks to me
mircea_popescu: and yes, this is exactly what amateur means : one who expects things to work like she imagines copulation works, ie, "love".
mircea_popescu: that nobody happened to visit the facts of life re the latter upon her sorry ass is a particularly harmful coincidence : way the fuck cheaper to not rape some random walflower, being awkward in a corner. way WAY the fuck more expensive to keep large integers from laughing at kock.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and what do we call the african-argentine plumber who puts in new pipe without taking out old pipe ? "amateur", rite.
mircea_popescu: Mocky the item depicted ran on all terain, ~50kmph or so.
mircea_popescu: and all-terain in a war thorn europe means some shit re artillery holes and such
Mocky: in my mind zundapp has reversed hand levers and curved license plate on front fender, although I know not all did
mircea_popescu: they're not really very good. modern bmws way the fuck better bikes.
mircea_popescu: a man ~fired~ that thing while being driven around. and some exceptional teams even arose, much like ye olde man-horse dualities of the red skins or parthians
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah but extremely stable and maneuvrable.
mircea_popescu: that machinegun, incidentally, had more fucking recoil than current toyota engine has torquw
Mocky: yes those are the hand levers can curved plates
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform very much so, yes. higher power engine can work slower.
mircea_popescu: tru. also, contemporary engine would have been a piece of art in 1940s, irreproducible with current tech
a111: Logged on 2019-01-16 16:05 mircea_popescu: it's a pretty sweet item, except for one point : its twin engines together less power than bartholomew.
BingoBoingo: I am planning to emplace the new Rockchip tomorrow. No downtime is planned, but removing the old and placing the new is going to take some dexterity.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: (i think it makes a rather subtle point, so discussion particularly welcome)
mircea_popescu: it seems to be the older definition, but it's fucking meaningless.
mircea_popescu: and if i hire douchebag to douchebag for a while, he's still an amateur.
mircea_popescu: i'm telling you, amateur is one who expects the world to "play nice" in whatever random definition he comes up with because daddy had the common fucking decency to not rape 'em while they were growing up, SO THEREFORE!!!
mircea_popescu: koch application of fermat DIRECTLY maps on the above "random definition".
mircea_popescu: cuz unsurprisingly enough, namecalling figures massively.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform quackery is the particular word for amateur medicine. high time for amateur engineering to get a specific word too, but not the end of ther world to wait for it.
mircea_popescu: the woman that fixed the antique jesus picture was amateur reconditioner of old frescoes.
mircea_popescu: various mammies crowding the us congress building -- amateur Mothers of Their Country
Mocky: seems like an intentional amateur (amateur pilot) is different from an oblivious amateur
mircea_popescu: if i take a seat next to you in your car, the large cost is my sitting, the small cost is the money.
mircea_popescu: i can't imagine what diff does it make. if airline pilot flies his own cessna one day is now amateur ?
mircea_popescu: you fly looking either in or out. if you fly looking out -- pro. if you fly looking in -- amateur.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and if kasparov plays with you and without an event purse -- amateur ?
mircea_popescu: everyone has a conception of "how world should be", constructed essentially out of Mother in the positive and some "expectations" from personal history.
mircea_popescu: if kasparov plays to win -- pro ; if kasparov plays to feel good about himself -- amateur. money dun enter into it, and proximity to other people entirely spurious socialism tendril.
mircea_popescu: consider though -- am i an AMATEUR writer ? and who's a professional, everyone on the nytimes list ? really ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i suppose stalin the definitive amateur, iirc never paid.
mircea_popescu: seems to me deepfry monkey essentially amateur ; my expert sluts as pro as it can possibly get.
Mocky: I got paid to do some development for a game, but still would say amateur game developer
mircea_popescu: and i also dispute there's any requirement of ~expertise~ for ~professionalism~. utter fucking bullshit of the confused and the definitionless, trying to buy one thing with the other and back again circularly because that's all they got.
mircea_popescu: you can be an inexperienced professional, just as you can be an experienced amateur.
mircea_popescu: in a film in which we see a nurse passing herself for a doctor because whatever in-universe reasons, we have under our eyes an expert amateur doctor!
Mocky: the proposed meaning describes a mindset or attitude only, with no consideration of actual ability
a111: Logged on 2019-01-22 19:27 asciilifeform: fwiw when asciilifeform , not even in teen yrs yet, lost interest in olympiads, this was why.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-22 19:27 asciilifeform: ( didn't particularly relish memorizing chess debuts, either )
mircea_popescu: "when i discovered the universe was artificial i withdrew into amateurship, because you can't commit to following a universe that's broken"
mircea_popescu: hence "amateur mistakes" -- mistakes apt to be produced by one who acts as if the world/item/tool/whatever IS HIS MOTHER
mircea_popescu: body is entirely as unbroken as anything can ever aspire to be.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you're equivocating between body conceptual and body of joe.
Mocky: mircea_popescu you're equivocating between being an amateur conceptually and being an amateur at X
mircea_popescu: Mocky there's no transitiveness. how can you be an amateur ~at X~ ?
a111: Logged on 2019-01-30 18:35 mircea_popescu: consider though -- am i an AMATEUR writer ? and who's a professional, everyone on the nytimes list ? really ?
Mocky: if so then why would picking writer be the argument, why not cook?
mircea_popescu: ie, that line is intended to show that the alternative understanding of the term is inconsistent.
mircea_popescu: Mocky i cook! i picked writer because it's easy to see my writing and hard to see my fucking.
mircea_popescu: all the fucking scenesters, amateur bdsm folk, have this in common with the pedo and the neurotic-impotent : that they're trying to re-enact.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the problem is that in my head dilettante would be one still getting his footing (ie, who has not yet touched all the elements of the field)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am not responsible to say what exactly ; maybe trying to re-enact being in craddle for all i know.
mircea_popescu: (anyway, the distinction is spurious, dilettante is LITERALLY italian for "amateur", comes from the same root as gave delight in english)
mircea_popescu: you go to bed, you close your eyes, your brain goes splat. so what of it.
mircea_popescu: i also didn't set on fire la paz wooden house, notwithstanding it is a reconstruction.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, sleeper becomes sleepwalker when starts walking ; mp's amateur becomes a nuisance when similarily.
mircea_popescu: (and conversely, all the "but i would treat her right and have great sense of humor" non-"asshole" lament, very much this "whay amateur fails!")
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> (and conversely, all the "but i would treat her right and have great sense of humor" non-"asshole" lament, very much this "whay amateur fails!") << Also why amateur doesn't have girl dancing in kitchen with knife and garlic while sitting at terminal
mircea_popescu: (to briefly revisit the dilettante issue : the other problem is that dilettante delights in ~consuming the end product~, ie, listening to music. the amateur trombonist and the dilettante jazzist may be a match made in heaven, however, they're not the same thing -- much like the narcissist and his borderline-sleeve gf aren't.)
mircea_popescu: well, classification is classification ; the meaning of words flow from reason not from some sort of consideration of political expediency
mircea_popescu: tbh, the carnegie hall may be a fine example -- florence jenkins played in what ~everone deemed a "how cute, they made copy out of hut!" item.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, what's the difference between this "amateur" and "childish"?
diana_coman: the world/whatever he does is his Mummy -> child
mircea_popescu: diana_coman about five years. childish notions are both narrow and misapplied. amateur notions are merely misapplied, but remarkably extensive.
diana_coman: uhm, you mean one can get out of being childish just by covering ground?
mircea_popescu: i mean if the part of the brain that handles the mechanics of thought moves into adulthood, rendering the subject capable of articulating longer strings and remembering them,
mircea_popescu: whereas the substance of thought does not move into adulthood, rendering the subject incapable to rightly apprehend the world,
mircea_popescu: therefore one's an amateur rather than merely childish.
a111: Logged on 2014-02-10 01:34 mircea_popescu: people can want in one hand and piss in the other, see which fills first.
diana_coman: hm, so amateur is the childish use of adult brain capacity i.e. a mismatch essentially?
Mocky: if a child is doing it, it's not childish, it's child-like. it's only childish for an adult
Mocky: well child-like is not the term, but I do think childish only applies to adults. calling a child childish would be in jest
mircea_popescu: so by your nomenclature normal 5yo, "child-like", mongoloid 20 yo "childish", etc ?
mircea_popescu: Mocky calling a woman sexy, also in jest, term reserved for prepubescent girls and boys of all ages ?
diana_coman: to my mind all children ARE childish, what else; but in their case that's just by definition basically, they can't be something else, not an issue
mircea_popescu: i don't necessarily kid if i call my car carsy either.
diana_coman: I can see at least the distinction proposed there with amateur vs childish
mircea_popescu: diana_coman note that the class of childish notion's wider than the class of amateur tropes.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-01 21:21 mircea_popescu: "the notion that airplanes could reproduce through laying eggs is merely a naive extension, in the vein of 'object A has properties a and b ; object B shares property a and therefore it is reasonable ~~~on a first approximation~~~ to expect it exhibit proerty b'. nevertheless, artifacts differ from nature in that one fundamental aspect, that they're inefficient, and therefore to achieve same ends end up heavy, and in the case
mircea_popescu: whereas amateurs specialize in one particular branch of childish mistake : stuff to with love.
mircea_popescu: making jesus (not as either the historical character or the pre-1800s various layers of reported historical character) the elliot of amateurs.
diana_coman: really? so what, if you notice an amateur making at some point ALSO a childish mistake then...it's not an amateur anymore?
mircea_popescu: from reviewing my past practice, i suspect i'd call them "retarded".
diana_coman: uhm, maybe this particular love-mistake is so significant in practice to really make the distinction that no, they are not retarded, they are just ...dunno, love-seeking? and anyway then...why is this not just retarded as well?
mircea_popescu: but anyway, the amateur, as a category, is very much a 19th century late-protestantism invention, along with such greats as "altruism" etcetera. they have little anchoring in reality, being as they are the waste byproducts of a specific stage of industrial society.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman "retarded" is a term for ~broad~ failure. narrow failure, ie one that can be described on a single node, doesn't seem to meet it.
mircea_popescu: some guy who can't spell, because cotsnaltny doign htis, is you know, merely dyslexic. if they ALSO can't tie their own shoes... well...
diana_coman: I suppose it's a matter of how broad is broad enough basically: i.e. e o ureche si nici n-aude bine
mircea_popescu: anyway, the amateur behaviour is actually not unknown among children. now and again you see some kid (esp one that's not usually violent) FURIOUS to the point of rabid because some other kid "cheated", ie, did something the universe supported but the kid's mind did not.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: at about the age of 10-11 or so, children, that were previously quite happy to play together, separate very visibly into pro-player and amateur-player groups.
mircea_popescu: the distinction generally matches their gender, too. girls tend to end up in the amateur-player groups. not so much climbing and activities with sticks that are wont to show one how inadequate human life is in a contest with sheer reality ;
diana_coman: you mean: at/after puberty, girls can't quite beat the shit out boys anymore and therefore they stop fighting them directly; lol
mircea_popescu: the traditional period greeting among boys, etched as it finds itself in my memory, went "ma, tu poti asa ?" ie, "hey, can you do this ?". girls tended to challenge each other rather to knowledge of particular conventions, "you read so and so book ?! SO DID I!!!"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: diana_coman entirely possibru! though the ~average~ girl is still no match for the lower placed boys. so i wouldn't call it "can't" properly speaking.
diana_coman: do you mean that the average girl can still beat the lower placed boys after puberty?
diana_coman: that might be, sure; doesn't change much though yes, strictly speaking "can" aka a qualified can
mircea_popescu: actually, if they at all cared to... here, let me recount an anecdote.
mircea_popescu: so the year's sometime in the golden 90s, and some super-duper karate trainer guy who happens to also be a friend of the family is visiting.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i have her walk in front of me ; and JUST as i'm explaining that nobody'd better fucking molest my guest or else, i feel some schmuck interlacing himself in front of me.
mircea_popescu: and then JUST as i turn to grab the dood by the scruff of his neck and see who the fuck this is then, what, am i talking to myself here ?!
mircea_popescu: chick slid her ass to the side and cracked him one shoe square in the forehead, after he grabed her ass.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi how she found the room for such kicking, but, the fact remains -- very much ~could~, a good half of all males are not worth the chickenfeed.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-30 19:40 mircea_popescu: the traditional period greeting among boys, etched as it finds itself in my memory, went "ma, tu poti asa ?" ie, "hey, can you do this ?". girls tended to challenge each other rather to knowledge of particular conventions, "you read so and so book ?! SO DID I!!!"
a111: Logged on 2019-01-30 19:37 mircea_popescu: anyway, the amateur behaviour is actually not unknown among children. now and again you see some kid (esp one that's not usually violent) FURIOUS to the point of rabid because some other kid "cheated", ie, did something the universe supported but the kid's mind did not.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, well, it's basically those who really cared to vs those who really did NOT care to, will always be able to; uhm? the whole thing was those who really cared to vs those who really cared to, otherwise not much sense imo
mircea_popescu: well, which brings us full circle : girls seemed to prefer that way rather than this, notwithstanding that they ~could~ have earned a decent spot on the rooster if earnestly tried.
mircea_popescu: but, for some reason (which i suspect -- only in part cultural, and besides, why would a girl believe her mother) they tend to not want to earnestly try.
diana_coman: ehm, from personal experience I can tell you that precisely at that age there is basically a massive handicap all of a sudden; and quite visible too
diana_coman: so yes, sure, still can, but here, have it even harder because reasons
diana_coman: hrm, some don't , lol; tits and ass and even more than that
mircea_popescu: my point is that the behavioural separation is visible rather before secondary sexual characteristics.
diana_coman: hormones also affect how much /easy muscle is put on for instance
mircea_popescu: that's for sure. though THAT only comes into its own when i sit here typing and bulk up while the girls are (even now!) at the gym and... nothin' doin'.
nicoleci: mircea_popescu, fetlife never disappoints. the best part of it is how he gave an explanation on why he thought that for a whole second and posted the comment
nicoleci: should probably try for a raw lamb next time
nicoleci: should be a fun demonstration for everyone at the store
BingoBoingo: Cuy's kinda like a fattier rabbit, cooked like a small duck
BingoBoingo: And the locals shot a second police officer this week. Monday's in Villa Española. This one in La Blanqueda.
nicoleci: yeah me either, we should change this. i wonder if mircea_popescu's scope of pretentiousness reaches tasting a fine capybara
a111: Logged on 2019-01-30 20:03 mircea_popescu: so the year's sometime in the golden 90s, and some super-duper karate trainer guy who happens to also be a friend of the family is visiting.