BingoBoingo: It still opens it in a terminal window apparently
BingoBoingo: Vircurex has/had (not sure if still online) on all its pages
mircea_popescu: right, nasdaq, vircurex, whadda hell's the difference.
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BingoBoingo: Probably a smaller number of offering on Nasdaq
BingoBoingo: vircurex was the one that listed itself on it's other hald
BingoBoingo: ;;google the impossibility of investing on cryptostocks trilema
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mircea_popescu: "The only thing that could devalue it, of course, is if I had a change of heart. I confess that I do, some mornings I wake up exhuberant and the ten million seems to me more like a billion soon."
mircea_popescu: i should enter the prophecy competition with that. where's randi when you needi.
BingoBoingo: Early 2014's when you were called a billionaire and saved openbsd
BingoBoingo: May not have even taken the full year for Bitcoin price to peak
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mircea_popescu: so not only is my beard half white, but here i sit basking in the glory of the writings i used to write. such is old age!
BingoBoingo: I imagine it can't be long before old mp writes commentaries on young mp's trilemas
pete_dushenski: i remember reading that 'billionaire saves...' piece back when i first started hanging out here and i recall thinking that mp being a 'billionaire' was some kinda troll
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 23:57:26; BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: "Lynxlet is an application for launching the text web browser Lynx in a Terminal window. Lynxlet is a Termlet - a class of applications designed to make Terminal based programs easy to use. " << Can't you just use... lynx???
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's what came up when I googled pete's browser
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Only because you have yet to ship cardano so you can fund moving maths literature to pornhub
assbot: Logged on 14-02-2016 00:06:48; mircea_popescu: nasdaq.com lives off advertising now ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Instead of reading maths have pornography with the maths produced for your consumption
mats: i was reflecting earlier today on where the next great electronic heist will be
mats: seems to me the real estate industry is ripe for this
mats: so much data flows between brokers and firms without any kind of security at all
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You never know until you get the opportunity to try it.
mats: just wanted to put that prediction in the log, continue with your regularly scheduled programmes
mats: reminds me of mp's `in theory doe could shit on any blade of grass it wanted'
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mircea_popescu: * asciilifeform back from maths library, opens book, finds letter 'to reader' circa 2001, inviting to talk to some long-gone prof merely for being interested in the text << sad huh.
pete_dushenski off to the hockey game, looking to see if mc-collarbone can put up another 5-snacker.
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mod6: <+pete_dushenski> mod6: all my hashes on 99996k_2 match :) << awesome, thanks for checking that out
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ben_vulpes: it ain't conjugation 'cause it ain't a verb, (and this question clearly makes me an "ESL" speaker) so what is the linguistic term of art for constructing language elements like this?
mircea_popescu: there's also derivation, when stems are altered to fit concepts.
mircea_popescu: verbal flexion follows tense, aspect and number accord with the nouns. it also applies to adverbs in some languages. noun declension follows case and number. these are grammar rules.
mircea_popescu: derivation on the other hand is how you obtain lesser from less, or beautiful from beauty, so it's prolly what you were after.
ben_vulpes: i'm frustrated by having been taught a myriad of languages (to retard-level competence only), but NEVER LATIN
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ben_vulpes: nothing like the forum to point out the inadequacies of one's history
mircea_popescu: anyway, most latin speakers in the history of that language learned it as adults.
ben_vulpes: i have only learned programming languages as an adult
ben_vulpes: i suppose a 'learn latin as an adult' strategy is going to take a few weeks to cook up.
ben_vulpes: every day i'm closer to dying and my myelin sheaths less conductive?
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mircea_popescu: (incidentally the fucking point of myelin is to not conduct. it's the dielectric in the arrangement.)
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assbot: Logged on 14-02-2016 05:43:45; ben_vulpes: i'm frustrated by having been taught a myriad of languages (to retard-level competence only), but NEVER LATIN
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BingoBoingo: Well, it's hollywood. Could be those Best Koreans again...
mircea_popescu: actually a sort of commedia could be made where a fake bitcoin internet group attacks the hollywood fake hospital they use in films, and encrypts their made up records to be recovered upon payment of large sum in scamcoin.
BingoBoingo: It just seems very Best Korean to focus on the entertainment industry and not... literally anything else.
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punkman: probably typo, like the qntra posts that turn billions to millions, but in reverse
punkman: actually surprised that no altcoin inventor yet has come up with ransomware as a feature
punkman: "our new wallet features built-in ransomware and keylogger"
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mircea_popescu: (actually - this is a pretty well represented subculture, contrary to what intuition may be telling you)
BingoBoingo: Apparently a new spambot turn on while I was sleeping: "I sat up in a cold sweat. Had someone's hand rellay been over my mouth or was I dreaming. My hotel room was pitch black save for the dim glow of my laptop screen. The Boingo application blinked angrily at me as the wifi had obviously been interrupted suddenly. My midnight snack, a half-eaten cream puff, lay awkwardly on the floor.Suddenly, I heard a wicked scream just before
BingoBoingo: a dark figure in the corner started moving toward me. I tried to roll out of bed but realized my feet were tied to the bed. What the hell was happening?"
BingoBoingo: Another machine generated gem: Stop screaming I was thknniig wait that was me screaming. Where is Cream Puff? I told them we shouldn’t come to the Boingo house. Everyone knows it’s haunted. There are all sorts of wicked smells coming from the basement and now the basement has Cream Puff. Who knew what sort of ghoulish things they may do to her then I see her … it’s Cream Puff I think….she came from the back of the house.
BingoBoingo: Her eyes all glazed over; her body shaking. She never was the same dog after the Boingo house that fateful Halloween night.
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Out of 50 these were the only ones of interest
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BingoBoingo: In other news facebook.com in any part of a comment to qntra no longer passes go, goes straight to hell never to be seen.
mircea_popescu: hey, they wanna be on qntra let them use our advertising platform.
BingoBoingo: Seriously. Reddit level AI bot was linking nothing but facebook and such a variety of things there's no other way to prevent it from reemerging.
shinohai: tired of designated shitting streets.
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kakobrekla: cant tell you anything more than what the pages says
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Now's your chance to audition for qntra. You've got a story, now your headline is "Indian Government And Banks Suppressing Cornerstone Of Local Culture"
shinohai: Because Qntra is dedicated to preserving Indian rights to shit in the street?
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Because Qntra points out ACTUAL oppression like this.
BingoBoingo: Anyways I thought most areas in India where this is popular they generally had designated shitting fields.
shinohai: "The Indian Government declined to comment as to whether they would also provide a toilet to Preet Bharara, so he would stop shitting in American streets and court buildings."
punkman: ah apparently some Apollo mission thing, built on Ada
BingoBoingo: "so he would stop shitting class of Americans that apires to productivity"
assbot: Logged on 14-02-2016 14:18:39; kakobrekla:
http://www.htius.com < this looks sort of interesting, anyone got a comment on it?
shinohai: BingoBoingo: where to send poo in loo submission when finished?
BingoBoingo: sign and encrypt it and get the text to me somehow.
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kakobrekla: compiler? it generates the code to be compiled. apparently can generate ada too.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla 17 Inman Street Cambridge,Massachusetts02139, 1-5mn revenue, 10-20 employees. looks like one of the [very numerous, usually derpy] some-guys-on-mit-campus-incorporeted-a-something deals.
copypaste: asciilifeform: it's business if you can cash into BTC; not whether you have the foresight to do so, but whether you have the ability to
kakobrekla: i know you are not a fan of abstraction but you also didnt write 'v' in machine code
kakobrekla: afaik home computers werent good for much before the 'basic' came around
kakobrekla: do you suggest the current level of abs is the best there is and ever will be
kakobrekla: i suspect we need to break out of this 'writing code' thing we do, like we did with machine code.
copypaste: it is just a new language, is what you're missing. all languages are just machine code generators
kakobrekla: im not claiming the linked implementation is worth much but i suspect it has some good ideas, like not 'writing code' anymore.
copypaste: it's an IDE for a new proprietary language. it's crud, sure, but code generation isn't bad by itself
BingoBoingo: In absurdly popular subreddits, /r/vandwellers/ has 26,000+ subscribers
kakobrekla: this is like claiming 'you still need to machine code' in the seventies
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kakobrekla: but you do arithmetic with 'special symbols', visually, not in plaintext (as argued not so long ago with mo)
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mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo> In absurdly popular subreddits, /r/vandwellers/ has 26,000+ subscribers << i suspect living in a van will be the new middle class in the us.
mircea_popescu: "hey, at least i don't live in the projects. i choose who rapes me!"
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla while he is stuck in a very hard to defend middle, still, i gotta say this "code generators" line you're arguing has a lot in common with the "betterment" that was to come from autocading all architecture.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile medicine goes through the same process as we speak, and the deleterious effects are pointedly obvious.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, the move from asm to c/basic HAS resulted in shittier programs throughout.
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for the sake of argument, consider this issue : <asciilifeform> but the hamilton thing is garbage. ; hamiltoninc : "Here are some properties and features that make 001 unique: Always number one when put to the test."
kakobrekla: actually without 'code generators' your computer is useless, its just a matter of how away from the bedrock your abstraction is
mircea_popescu: now how do i, as a third party, resolve this dispute ?
kakobrekla: and to think current setup is optimal seems far fetched to me.
mircea_popescu: the "we are living in best possible world" argument is broken by definition.
kakobrekla: somewhere in the logs where you pasted a pic of a triple integral or somesuch
mircea_popescu: actually, let's cut the discussion to a particularly comfortable example : the internet was "going to open up human knowledge". instead it has created the WORST fucking style of prose the english language has ever known. tedious, humourless but contrived, inept and coming up short in all measures, from cracked to wikipedia the language is bleeding. there is not more knowledge but less, and even its clothes are haggard
mircea_popescu: this shit just doesn't work and is certainly no solution.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and its network effects. which are never well accounted for.
mircea_popescu: but allowing one rotten apple in rots the set, and allowing one lazy slavegirl ruins the lot and so on.
mircea_popescu: i don't see what drawing the matrix adds, either. arguing to ignorance alfie ?
mircea_popescu: it can be, but it's a much tougher nut than generally understood.
mircea_popescu: you can prove that meaning is impossible, just not trivially.
kakobrekla: i am not defending the implementation, just that there might be some merit to the ideas presented there. why do you chart v patches?!
mircea_popescu: (in fact, the lulzy otp discussion last week was EXACTLY re proven absence of meaning)
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> that was where she lifted the interesting part. << lol nicely put, what meaning is contemplated ? "she [metaphorical person] lifted her skirt, rather than shoes and sleeves and whatnot random insanities" "she [interlisp author] stole the good bits for once, rather than dubious ux or w/e"
kakobrekla: there is a workflow video buried somewhere on site.
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punkman: /me remembers a hospital visit that concluded in a thunderous fart while doctor was palpating
kakobrekla: i dont see it as a 'cake of death' question, more like 'piss or shit' one.
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punkman: "The history of Vandwelling goes back to horse drawn vehicles such as Roma Vardo wagons in Europe, and covered Conestoga wagons in the United States. One of the first uses of the term Vandwellers was in the United Kingdom showman and Van Dwellers' Protection Association, a guild for travelling show performers formed in the late 1800s. Shortly afterwards in 1901, Albert Bigalow wrote “The
punkman: Vandwellers”, about people living on the verge of poverty having to live a nomadic life in horse drawn moving vans."
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BingoBoingo: Congrats to shinohai on his first qntra piece
shinohai: Will remember to add the archive.is links next time though BingoBoingo, thanks
shinohai: >mfw "satoshi" is Bitcoin's shibboleth
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mats: what an excellent troll
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ben_vulpes: congratulations on surviving the bubble attempt mircea_popescu
BingoBoingo: To be fair many markets do not overcome bubbles as robustly as mircea_popescu does
BingoBoingo: Oil industry too? Not mucus but still has lubricant.
ben_vulpes: phenomenon is similar to what Buekens and Boudry (2015)
ben_vulpes: referred to as obscurantism (p. 1): “[when] the speaker...
ben_vulpes: [sets] up a game of verbal smoke and mirrors to suggest
ben_vulpes: depth and insight where none exists.”"
ben_vulpes: why do people^H^H^H^H^H^Hbarbarians insist on this moronic 2-column publishing style
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mod6: so was thinking about pushing out that v99995 today.
mod6: but found an edge case that causes an infinte loop.
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mod6: this happens if the antecedent hash matches the descendant hash.
ben_vulpes: i would like to see the vdiff that craps that down
mod6: the fix for this amounts to adding one condition statement when building the map of hashes.
ben_vulpes: i am reminded of the "enumerating badness" thread
mod6: ben_vulpes: it basically shouldn't ever happen, but it could and since; no means yes, yes means anal.
ben_vulpes: ideally a v impl. knows what vpatches are to look like and barfs on anything that doesn't look like that instead of trying to catch all of the edge cases
mod6: to test it, i had to hand-diddle one of the vpatches. easy enough to do. if someone is doing something very strange or bad or whatever on their system it could lead to an infinate loop.
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mod6: well, no forking going on. im guessing it'll die when it runs out of ram, but haven't checked that yet.
mod6: what do you mean by "v impl. knows what vpatches are to look like"
mod6: how would it know ahead of time, short of having a hash for the vpatch itself?
ben_vulpes: the structure, not the contents. 'fork bomb' was a joke, mod6.
ben_vulpes: don't take me too seriously this morning mod6 i got dressed and went to the office before realizing it was still sunday
mod6: yeah, in this regard, my V basically does know what to look for in a given vpatch file -- the thing it wasn't doing is checking that the hashes match eachother -- which can cause a downstream infinate loop when traversing the map.
mod6: no worries ben_vulpes.
mod6: ive been a bit fried lately myself.
mod6: ive got problems at the shit-shoveling factory that are giving me headaches :/
mod6: so one of my cpu threads goes to 100% and memory usage starts to climb.
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BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> why do people^H^H^H^H^H^Hbarbarians insist on this moronic 2-column publishing style << Journals demand it for printing
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jurov: apparently opening and closing of the tab still requires macrotransactions
shinohai: That's good since that $400 box only produces pennies a week.
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mod6: ok, so instead what I'll do here is add an automated test to check for this, so i don't regress later. and then most likely will put out a 3rd beta patch for people to test/review.
mod6: then in a few days i'll consider publishing the bundle again. thanks for your support/patience/help, etc.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78400 @ 0.00055633 = 43.6163 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: so in "weird of the crowd" news, eulora player just bought an auctioned package from s.mg for 140, split it up, and barely managed to recoup HALF the cost.
mircea_popescu: <mod6> ben_vulpes: it basically shouldn't ever happen, but it could and since; no means yes, yes means anal. << lol io like how he thinks.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77000 @ 0.00055592 = 42.8058 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78657 @ 0.00056433 = 44.3885 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52050 @ 0.00056644 = 29.4832 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19081 @ 0.00056628 = 10.8052 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63319 @ 0.000555 = 35.142 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53862 @ 0.00055879 = 30.0975 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73150 @ 0.00055728 = 40.765 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55100 @ 0.0005539 = 30.5199 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80068 @ 0.00056207 = 45.0038 BTC [+] {5}
mircea_popescu: "i am in bitcoin, i just don't know anything about it. like those people from new york that dunno what the chrysler building is!"
shinohai: Just a few days ago he equated Bitcoin to web browsers - fitting since they are the IE of BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00056726 = 3.4603 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 112950 @ 0.00055798 = 63.0238 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4720 @ 0.00055674 = 2.6278 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65680 @ 0.00055328 = 36.3394 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84050 @ 0.00056132 = 47.1789 BTC [+] {3}
mod6: just for the 'cheers' & everything else :]
mod6: i'll give it a few days and then will roll up a full bundle. i've got an automated test for this case now too.
mod6: asciilifeform: for phuctor?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 141500 @ 0.00055194 = 78.0995 BTC [-] {2}
mod6: mod6 heavy industries needs new box for mining
mod6: ... there's this remote island where you can mine stuff like shiny rocks and rotten fruit.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47009 @ 0.00055193 = 25.9457 BTC [-] {2}
ben_vulpes: happy valentines day and many blowjobs to all!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20814 @ 0.00056578 = 11.7761 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: i have been running mine for 2 years are are as good as new as far as i can tell
kakobrekla: i also had the problem of ups being the loudest, but it fanless, i think its the transformer that is noisy
kakobrekla: its not impossible to make inverter go fanless
kakobrekla: anyway, you can only take it so far. at some point you will hear birds from outside and so on.
kakobrekla: im glad someone else found my effort useful.
assbot: You rated user kakobrekla on 12-Apr-2014, with a rating of 4, and supplied these additional notes: expert infrastructural welder. holds up the sky..
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47097 @ 0.00056516 = 26.6173 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for kakobrekla from 4 to 5 with note: not only expert infrastructural welder, but unearthed a 15dB pc fan somehow.
assbot: You rated user mod6 on 24-Apr-2015, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: therealbitcoin.org. met in the flesh. jolly good fella..
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for mod6 from 3 to 5 with note: met alive; expert gardener of therealbitcoin.org; implementer of the first fully-functional battlefield-grade vtron.
assbot: You rated user phf on 01-Aug-2015, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: ru lisper; sometimes tests my code, even.
assbot: 3 is not registered in WoT.
assbot: Successfully unrated zfx
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla> i have been running mine for 2 years are are as good as new as far as i can tell << good bearings, less wear, last longer.
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assbot: You rated user kanzure on 22-Jun-2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: meat programmer.
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for kanzure from 1 to -1 with note: minor-league quisling; inquire within
assbot: You rated user jurov on 22-Apr-2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: live human!!.
shinohai: This is why I like asciilifeform he can use "quisling" in a sentence.
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for jurov from 1 to 4 with note: therealbitcoin.org treasurer; long-suffering maintainer of ml 'turdatron'; and miscellaneously strong intellect
assbot: You rated user BingoBoingo on 25-Jan-2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: retrocomputing archaeology enthusiast, intelligent commentary..
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67244 @ 0.00056448 = 37.9579 BTC [-]
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for BingoBoingo from 2 to 3 with note: preaches tirelessly to the heathens - qntra.net ; retrocomputing archaeologist and the proverbial alert reader.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10275 @ 0.00056431 = 5.7983 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61700 @ 0.00055933 = 34.5107 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67450 @ 0.0005518 = 37.2189 BTC [-] {4}
kakobrekla: i dont but according to ze enemy; Current cost per TH: 0.0039 BTC per day
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's a very simple calculation really : 1 block out of 24 * 60 / 10 = 1/144 of total hash
mircea_popescu: lol @ scam foundation's bfl-pushing rag whining "bitcoin dictators"
mircea_popescu: the plural invalidates the point, derps. what fucking dictatorS ? how's that shit supposed to work ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61550 @ 0.00055147 = 33.943 BTC [-] {3}
kakobrekla: roughly 1 petahash will get you 1 block per 1000 blocks
kakobrekla: you need more like 1 per 100 (144 per day)
kakobrekla: 30 bt per day according to node counter donations
shinohai: I should throw up a donation page like that saying I'll mine classic blocks - 35 BTC!!!
mircea_popescu: there's really better things to chew the scenery about.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40000 @ 0.00055285 = 22.114 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: speaking of which asciilifeform ... good time to make a wallet fixer now :)
kakobrekla: he is speaking like he will lose the btc
mircea_popescu: well he can't spend it again till he convinces his wallet that tx should go away
mircea_popescu: sending coins to yourself is called mixing not spending.
trinque: asciilifeform: pick up some deedbot- dust
mircea_popescu: looking at the block spam atm, "money" is ~5000 satoshi