ben_vulpes: lobbes: try chromium or firefox in headless mode
lobbes: ben_vulpes, ah okay! I hadn't thought about those browsers. I was trying to script something in lynx. Problem there was intermittent 503 errors.
lobbes: (errors trying to download via archive.is, that is)
BingoBoingo: In still coaster lollers: "Thiel's departure from Y Combinator was not previously announced. It comes long after Y Combinator president Sam Altman defended Thiel's role at the accelerator, following criticism of Thiel's support of then-presidential candidate Donald Trump. A source close to Y Combinator said that the company ended its part-time partners program, which Thiel was a part of, some time last year. While some other part-time
☟︎☟︎ BingoBoingo: partners moved over to a program called "experts," which provides advice to Y Combinator entrepreneurs, Thiel did not join."
ben_vulpes: somehow i missed that alibaba is in the timesharing business
shinohai: reddit would sell it out within minutes.
BingoBoingo: And the winner to provide my ticket was... COPA
shinohai: Vas necesitar una "copa" despues! xD
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Both transfers have substantial time padding them.
BingoBoingo scheduled to arrive same time one day after leaving
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 7672.41, vol: 15851.94799197 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 7638.8, vol: 72545.60110328 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 7000.0, vol: 0 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 7685.8, vol: 5451.1288452 | Volume-weighted last average: 7647.2070127
ben_vulpes: welp, completely struck out installing ada compiler tonight
☟︎ ben_vulpes: tried both binturd from libre.adacore and a portage ebuild
ben_vulpes: likely has to do with that this box is running gcc 5.4.0, i think i have to figure out how to make a gentoo with gcc 4.9
☟︎ ben_vulpes: okay well *something* is compiling on my closet iron now
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-17#1740118 << precisely. self-interest is intended to pull the republican cart here. everyone is very well advised to take the matter seriously, do his own research for his own needs and let's see if we can distil it down to a workable list.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-11-17 06:13 trinque: yep, I will have to do some research there myself.
mircea_popescu: and ideally derive some mutual-support benefit, such as A gets to use B's bios even if it wasn't the top of his list of needs.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-17 06:37 trinque: for the simple webhosting and bothosting cases, of which there oughta be many, max-spec'd machine is not necessary
mircea_popescu: eg, originally phuctor box was specified with lots and lots of ram, then software improvement brought that original perceived bottleneck ~in line with the others so overram no longer a critical measure of box quality. and so following.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-17 06:48 BingoBoingo: Still, calls to it add up
a111: Logged on 2017-11-17 14:06 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-17#1740117 << you can't v-root an item containing binturds. and the only x86 bios without winturds, is for opteron or ancient (pre-2008) intels. with recent chips even binturd-containing coreboot dun work, and yer stuck with the heathen fw shipped in the box.
mircea_popescu: binturds are NOT unapproachable. they are very much as approachable as, eg, reversing ivory/bolix software. not necesarily as perfumed, but be that as it may.
mircea_popescu: i would much prefer to have a v-root for whatever bios, with the binary clearly laid out, so people with the competence can take it apart.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: rather than pretend alongside the usg tards it's an "insurmountable task". it's not. build the tools and spend the time, do your part to ruin wintel and with it the united states.
mircea_popescu: yes, yours is already reversed. the others aren't YET.
mircea_popescu: what you mean is "the diffs aren't directly meaningful" which is true, but also what can we do ?
mircea_popescu: v is still needed to manage the metadata on them. such as you know, the textfile explaining how to produce them and what (at least) portions say
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the interesting part is where you change 1 byte and you get sony's copy protection in a new package.
mircea_popescu: i wasn't proposing to treat the binturds as genesis themselves, no. attached exactly in manner fg did it
mircea_popescu: imo you solved this "i got bins, they're needed but hated" problem correctly, there.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-18 06:53 ben_vulpes: welp, completely struck out installing ada compiler tonight
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
mod6: nb. been workin on / looking at the privkey tools requests.
mod6: buncha stuff to do hehe.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: not stuck yet, trying other things
ben_vulpes: but the very very funny event was the script from the adacore binstaller simply fails, and instructed me to check an empty log file
☟︎ shinohai: mircea_popescu was extremely patient with that one ......
mircea_popescu: anyway, this strategy whereby one contributes nothing to the conversation but insists to advertise their name through join/part spamming nevertheless... bad idea, really.
shinohai: He had certainly ground my gears for weeks.
shinohai: Wonder how the Argentines are doing with their hunt for Rojo Octubre today.
mircea_popescu: sorry to disappoint everyone ; but i've sold all my bitcoin and am 100% bticino hodler nao. this is the right fork guyse as it will totally win the letter ordering debate and is supported by broad letter consensus. see you all @moon soon.
mod6: <+shinohai> Afternoon mod6 o/ << o7
ben_vulpes: relevant barf from a failure to emerge 'dev-lang/gnat-gpl'
jurov: ben_vulpes: i'd try to disable the cxx useflag (or maybe all useflags the package has, for that matter)
jurov: because nfi what gnat needs C++ for
ben_vulpes: mm i'll try that; gentoo wiki ada page said to make ADAFLAGS=${CFLAGS} ty jurov
a111: Logged on 2017-11-17 14:20 asciilifeform: back to coreboot, fwiw i have a working build for 'pcengines'
a111: Logged on 2017-11-17 18:52 Ingolfr_Arnarson: And mentioned gossipd was the name of the actual thing.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-06 12:59 mircea_popescu: spend the usual 200 hours/week connected to irc and doing whatever clerical tasks provided. must be native chinese speaker with a reasonable command of english, she's not expected to take calls or anything in it.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-17 19:49 ben_vulpes: hmac blunder also epic
a111: Logged on 2017-11-17 20:44 asciilifeform: in other butthurts,
https://archive.is/nw25r >> 'For M.I.T. students, this waiver keeps us from having to pay a bill of about $50,000 every year — a staggering amount, but one that is similar to the fees at many other colleges and universities. ... But under the House’s tax bill, our waivers will be taxed. This means that M.I.T. graduate students would be responsible for paying taxes on a $80,000 annual salary, when we actually e
mircea_popescu: graduate student just as 100% idle hopeless underproducing hyperconsumer with or without rule.
mircea_popescu: $50k a year "staggering ammount", dork wants to pretend like he has anything to say on any topic ? POOR PEOPLE MAY NOT SPEAK.
mircea_popescu:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuvPhAuQFD4 << "this is over. what are you ? face facts. you're a schmuck, calling himself "graduate student" who shags my receptionist and then wants to sit at the grown-up table talking science. but it's my fault. i aaaalmost took you seriously. please go away! we have absolutely nothing to talk about. you have nothing in your pockets! you are not an agent here. you are not an agent at all!"
a111: Logged on 2017-11-17 20:54 asciilifeform: not that usd is required to obey conservation of mass, but possibly mit is about to be struck off the list of folx having the crown privilege to make it appear and disappear on command in this way.
mircea_popescu: which is the real lulz behind that "decimation of american productivity". usg.blue lost "american" trademark, did not REALISE this ; lost also tax immunities, and HAD NO IDEA. only approximation is a cow so dumb it only notices someone cut off its legs when trying to stand up.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's a staggering ammount to the schmuck who fucks my receptionist because i can't be arsed to kill flies yet goes about pretending is human being and all that.
mircea_popescu: no graduate student is a person, nor ever was, wtf already.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-17#1740200 << reminds me about that sf piece of alt-world in which time machine was invented but restricted to "academic and research usage", wherein a dude discovers all the "primitive savages" he is "studying" are similar students, they're4 basically studying each other's execution of what they themselves think past wast.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i've known more than one fellow with a "us court conviction" so framed and displayed. amusingly enough, these are STILL produced.
mircea_popescu: recently, gave a bunch of chinese intel workers this distinction. it's practically speaking the Order Of UStards are Retarded, first class.
mircea_popescu: put it right next to the Legion d'Honneur etc foreign insignia.
mircea_popescu: some people had from hitler AND dej. i guess none of them will ALSO have from bahamas.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but anyway, no. "graduate student" is 100% the human composition of wikipedia, reddit etc.
mircea_popescu: there's the chinese coolies who grad student in places where work is required ; then there's the poor-but-stupid us-born tard, who graduatestudents where no work is required, spends day being "expert" online
mircea_popescu: THAT is what esl speaker has in mind when saying "grad student".
mircea_popescu: i'd propose it as the standard. explicative dictionary, of course, not "translative" dictionary. this is the correct approach btw, "translation" dictionary is made of 100% sheer nonsense and not to be touched.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: now, the item suffers from the EXTREME braindamagedness of romanian academics, 1967-2017, and is consequently not nearly as useful as could be ; most definitions are severely broken logically, even if heuristically usable.
mircea_popescu: but this is an universal problem of all languages advanced enough to have a dictionary -- the "scholars" are too dumb to produce the correct item.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-17 23:56 lobbes: update on archive-o-tron: Looks like leveraging archive.is is getting nowhere fast; according to the archive.is d00d 'download .zip is actually broken'
a111: Logged on 2017-11-17 23:59 lobbes: damn
a111: Logged on 2017-11-18 00:06 BingoBoingo: In still coaster lollers: "Thiel's departure from Y Combinator was not previously announced. It comes long after Y Combinator president Sam Altman defended Thiel's role at the accelerator, following criticism of Thiel's support of then-presidential candidate Donald Trump. A source close to Y Combinator said that the company ended its part-time partners program, which Thiel was a part of, some time last year. While some other part-time
mircea_popescu: because clearly what's important is the pantsuitism not teh reality.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-18 00:19 shinohai:
http://archive.is/07Oas <<< I guess no use going thru the trouble of shutting down the sybil nodes or w/e
a111: Logged on 2017-11-18 21:03 mircea_popescu: i'd propose it as the standard. explicative dictionary, of course, not "translative" dictionary. this is the correct approach btw, "translation" dictionary is made of 100% sheer nonsense and not to be touched.
mircea_popescu: the way adult woman is deflowered is EXACTLY same way she'd have been deflowered at 14, were she not a retard at 14 : cock goes in.
mircea_popescu: there's no special procedure for any age, hole, or circumstance of any kind. always the same process.
mircea_popescu: "romanian-english dictionary" is the exact equivalent of programming in "microsoft visual c".
mircea_popescu: even if your binary runs, your brain suffered in the process.
mircea_popescu: it's not FORBIDDEN. but if you insist to break the "why do you think you have anything to SAY yet" rule and instead of reading ro text with ro explicative dictionary as per
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-09#1580455 jump ahead to trying to ~produce~ ro text on the basis of your english ideas augmented by a english-to-ro translateatron, the result will be that you'll end up with a subset of romanian as permitted by your english
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 16:12 mircea_popescu: trinque the method i recommend, if you care, is to work selections of classical texts with the dictionary ; then proceed to answer any systematic questions you have when you're sick of the slog.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-21 18:32 mircea_popescu: because no, words don't "have meanings". your meanings for ANY WORD are a function of ALL THE OTHER WORDS YOU KNOW. which is why my definitions regularily blow out english dictionaries, wikipedia and other sources of "wisdom" out of the water - i know more words, and in this knowledge i know all the words i know ~better~. infinitely and irreproducibly so.
mircea_popescu: gains ~not just for the "new" language~! the old one as well! i'm a much better english speaker than absolutely any esl speaker BECAUSE i speak a bunch of other languages that ARE NOT english, which STRENGTHENS my english.
mircea_popescu: you get to this takeoff in the manner children do, which is : be seen and not heard. you... read.
mircea_popescu: until you have enough familiarity for the proper dict to be useful to you, you don't properly speaking have anything to say.
mircea_popescu: i can't answer for others, but i, a man with no particular place to go and no specific time to be there, find in general the approach endlessly entertaining. go into a two day loop through whatever lang's dict after having read a phrase in some classical work.
mircea_popescu: it's why i won't learn subhuman languages, such as anything black people ever made : not NEARLY enough classics to keep me interested in this manner.
mircea_popescu: this is also why i've not learned say sanskrit, and why i despise indians as the cultural construct. bitch, interrupted classics isn't a qualifier, if all the jews had ended in 300 ad they'd be in the same pot.
mircea_popescu: now, one could say "but of course, mp is rich, man of leisure". except... i STILL didn't have a particular destination / timetable as an eight year old. if anyone's ever poorer than a child...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they can take their "yoni"s and shove them, i'm too busy archeologisting actual things to be bothgered with "but mp, before going to shit india was interesting". had i lived before it went to shit, i might've persuaded by this.
mircea_popescu: "but mp, if you don't study failures how to avoid mistakes ???" "study non-failures and non-do what they didn't do either!" wtf, ima have to look at anything but WORKING engine to establish how to not make engine ? pshaw.
mircea_popescu: almost 0 shits given to "after ww2 but before clinton, america the great" wank for very much this reason, actually.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform learnable failures are always the byproduct of an eventuallty successful complete tree.
mircea_popescu: absent either the eventually or the complete... it's back to black monkeys picking through each other's fur.
mircea_popescu: which they do, endlessly entertainingly. let me show you the most recent :
diana_coman: ahahahah "dacă aveți probleme care vă ajută"
shinohai: Since it is from Romanian brujas, I bet it worx
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I'd say plenty *poorer* than children actually; I can't see how is "adult" with debt and whatnot "richer" than child
mircea_popescu: diana_coman but constructs OF STUPIDITY have no bearing on the actual reality. child is, natura nuda, poorest thing that can exist.
mircea_popescu: this deep, overwhelming poverty of childhood is what eg malena hero struggles with.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, walked past item in market yest, "and god walked the earth, and came upon a man who was so very poor
diana_coman: well, I get what you mean i.e. that's the zero, yes; however ...constructs of stupidity do...exist, what can I say
mircea_popescu: and people who cut off their own leg to spite the doctor do exist from what i hear.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you'd love archeology by the way. half the job is "here's this pile of relations with no cognitive correlate. please explain."
mircea_popescu: usually this returns "religious artefact AND GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY OFFICE". understandably.
mircea_popescu: hermeneutics, amirite. "how to map complex structures".
diana_coman: make a not that there are negative, "non-natural" numbers, what else is there to do, lol
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the box that barfed uses gcc 5.4.0
shinohai: ben_vulpes: I had 0 luck until gcc 4.9.4
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i tried recently to build a chroot with 4 from the machine with 5 to no avail
ben_vulpes: hey trinque do you still have that script for "infectious gentoo"? i might be able to get my old closet iron with 4.9 to build a respectable userland
☟︎ ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: yeah i have now pissed upon this electrified fence as well
ben_vulpes: i couldn't find a stage3 with 4.9 on it when i needed it for this machine, and so got 'phuqed'
ben_vulpes: republic really doesn't have repeatable steps for building a gentoo with gcc 4.9, does it
☟︎ ben_vulpes: "step 1: build a gentoo five years ago"
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i did that, but i believe that 5 snuck in from stage3. at the time i got loads of errors about 5 being present on the system in violation of use flag specification, attempted to purge but this did not result in a usable box somehow
ben_vulpes: i don't really know how to apply your use flags to the creation of a new gentoo then. i do have an older gentoo box that is pretty faithful to the crapolade flags, has gcc but don't really have a map for making that produce a root fs that i can put on another box or what even the correct way to go about doing what i want to do
ben_vulpes: yeah i have one of those as well but also ew
ben_vulpes: doesn't gcc itself count as a magic binturd?
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, evidently "whaterver you got" dun include post wreckage gcc 5+
shinohai: Ah yeah somehow I had forgotten that *DUH* is part of trb
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: couldja sketch how this pill might work for me?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes ride the rotor train all the way to there then have it build whatever it is you're building.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "whatever it is you're building" is "gentoo", and what goes into that is still a mystery to me
mircea_popescu: mmm, i dunno that we have a gentoo equivalent of this deeded anywhere.
mircea_popescu: (to explain the lulz : huffpo penned piece about gervais, whio's still active and who did whatever huffpo-demo interest item recently ; upon deciding they want to write it up they proceeded to "do research" in "depth" as such works ; as it happens trilema owns millions of "long tail" items, including as the case is here whatever-they-searched-about either cemetery junction or gervais or some combination of other words. eviden
mircea_popescu: the point being that the pantsuit machine RELIES on there not existing toxicitems in the environment, because the whole thing is so least-effort driven as to directly uptake them if present.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, looking through logs we notice trilema served 1.5mn pages... earlier today, during four hours or so. this is usually a week or two's worth.
mircea_popescu: superficially seems like all sorts ; kinda not have the time now to feed a quarter gb log through summarizer.
mircea_popescu: anyway, over 1TB burned, month half way. blog infrastructure liek bitcoin infrastructure in more ways than one.
mircea_popescu: in other grandeurs, this place is a bona fida meteorological observatory. i sat over pasta and watched a complete cloud system move across the sky. here the sky's blue, here's the coming cloud front, there's rain...
pete_dushenski: sounds a lot like teh prairies except in cr you can't see spot running away for weeks
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: how'd you approach the problem of frequently updated blockheight on the wrist ? well, "problem"...
pete_dushenski: so wouldn't update if owner took off to, say, take a shower ?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> nice work mod6 << Thx, cheers!