PeterL: does it have a rss feed?
PinkPosixPXE: ok, time to finish up some work/be productive, and have some delightful Pho for dinner!
PinkPosixPXE: hehe nah, I just buy food from the nam's restaurant.. the good ones
ben_vulpes: PeterL: i made one at one point, but it's fallen over since.
PeterL: aha, let me know if you get a feed working so I can add it to the bot's list
kakobrekla: ;;rate fivezerotwo -1 >I wanna see if trust list notifications work correctly (next one in a couple of hours)
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user fivezerotwo has been recorded.
PeterL: when I tried to add author i borked it, but now it works again
assbot: Logged on 31-10-2014 04:09:06; kakobrekla: there is only non working code atm so stfu.
mircea_popescu: ahhh that was the best salmon in soffran sauce i ever had.
mircea_popescu: mike_c: news flash: news doesn't have footnotes. << i dunno, maybe i'm nuts but imo the current solution to the problem of illiterare population (dumb down the news) is maybe not the best. putting footnotes in there so even the clueless can follow may work ?
mircea_popescu: jurov: mircea_popescu: or i can generate something like 1BTCFund but it 'll take a while <<< eeentirely up to you.
PeterL: news doesn't have footnotes because they have not adapted to using the technology yet
PeterL: they are still stuck trying to make their websites look like a paper newspaper
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu afaik no. but you need 10 grams to take you out.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla seeing how i didn't pay like 10k for the sauce alone, i somehow doubt there was enough in there then
kakobrekla: lucky for us it has a strong taste so you dont need much of it.
kakobrekla: less than half a gram for a persons meal +-
mircea_popescu: 0x1) CLAUSES 0x0] INTRODUCTION ; RESPONSIBILITIES => ) ==== ]
mircea_popescu: bounce: no, it's complete bs. reading time does not depend on wordcount alone. or even taking word length into consideration. <<< seriously guise, this "reading time" thing is poppy.
mircea_popescu: bounce: footnotes are a major break in reading flow [...] <<< here's a tip&trick : hover pointer over footnote mark, there's a tooltip that loads it.
mircea_popescu: it'd be better than the current pretense of "we invented a new, easier one!"
mircea_popescu: "it doesn't work, and it's pretty stupid, but at least you know, ux!"
cazalla: fwiw, i don't think the kakobrekla's and asciilifeform's of this world are the target audience for Qntra
BingoBoingo: cazalla: kakobrekla is the audience for everything
mircea_popescu: jurov: i propose if they don't get claimed in 14 days, then they get loaned to coinbr. <<< i think that's how brokers work anyway, minus the 14 days
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not landau. later contributors can footnote it.
cazalla: although maybe BingoBoingo's articles have more appeal to the sophisticated Qntra reader
mircea_popescu: punkman: would qntra like to sponsor a WP plugin that accepts signed posts and puts them in editor's queue? << it's not a bad idea on the face but the truth is that the pipeline is too finnicky and too dependent on handwork for it to be useful. yet.
punkman: also good idea for solo blog and comments
punkman: so you can post with logging in or such
mircea_popescu: assbot: "Work sets you free" sign stolen: Dachau memorial robbed. <<< that thing gets stolen periodically.
kakobrekla: poppy.< i dunno if poppy is good or bad (imma guess bad) but the diff between word count and reading time is the diff between 'df' and df -h'
kakobrekla: yes totally bad to put it human companionable form
mircea_popescu: cazalla: fivezerotwo wants 2 btc to stop lol <<< guy sounds a lot more like, he'd want to start above the grunt level, doesn't know how to ask but figures (correctly) that no matter how he'd ask he won't get it.
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: <@gmaxwell> nubbins`: blabla <<< how about we each do our part to keep idiocy cointained in -otc -dev and wherever else.
kakobrekla: my domain name slave is sleeping unfortunately
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: PinkPosixPXE don't knock .net, where else can you combine c-style code with visual basic in the same executable? :D <<< os/x ?
punkman: re: merkle tree - maybe in the future where we have 100 deeds per bundle, but it's already a hash tree so...
gribble: log.bitcoin-assets.com is up
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 128200 @ 0.00073227 = 93.877 BTC [+] {8}
mircea_popescu: punkman fatswell is an expert at the wikigame. how to say words that appear like they have substance.
punkbot: ben_vulpes: No pending deeds | Last bundle 2 hours and 31 minutes ago
punkbot: ben_vulpes: Balance at 1LAwrWMbPLLSpt7nkD5Jv1Yf4cwPhD98ny is 0.0146 BTC (0.0 unconfirmed), enough for 132 more bundles.
artifexd: <kakobrekla> yes, someone requested to make a custom rss feed for []bot only for it not to be used << It will be. Just... not yet.
assbot: Bitcoin Address 1FundZy7m7b8begbh9haCguKJcAdFopRJ9
punkbot: ben_vulpes: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. You may also want to use the 'list' command to list all available plugins and commands.
mircea_popescu: * asciilifeform not surprised, expected precisely this. << wouldja give a man a moment ? i gotta answer comments and whatnot!
punkbot: [trust-update] | removed: fivezerotwo
assbot: Logged on 17-02-2014 00:11:53; asciilifeform: "came to drakula two catholic monks, from the hungarian lands, pittances to collect. he ordered them brought apart, and called up one, pointed to the yard, where one could see many sat upon stakes, or on wheels broken. he did ask: 'was i just? and who are these people, sitting on stakes?' answered the monk, 'no, lord, you do evil, killing without mercy; a lord must be merciful. and those sat upon the
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you got a pointer to where you and nubbins` cut the book deal ?
assbot: dpaste: 1QE0QRB: fivezerotwo 2014-11-03, by PinkPosixPXE
punkman: mircea_popescu: url bug fixed, and there's the trust-list notification
PinkPosixPXE: that was from earlier, but same as the threats you guys are getting, just threw it out there
kakobrekla: 15:31 <fivezerotwo> these people have a world view that 99% of the populance are dumb morons < its not my fault :(
punkman: kakobrekla: I have a gift for you
assbot: deeds signed by kakobrekla
ben_vulpes: who will step forward to claim responsibility for taking the deed faucet booty?
PeterL: I'm waiting for a bunch to be out there and then I am going to take them all at once
assbot: #bitcoin-assets deed registry
BingoBoingo: Maybe fivezerotwo waits a few years and he can scrape his ransom out of the deedbot bin?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48500 @ 0.00073039 = 35.4239 BTC [-] {2}
ben_vulpes: punkman: what's the story with deed titles?
assbot: majorpaynei86 comments on New Bitcoin Deed System Launches
assbot: Bitcoin Address 1D4kG2YPA6WHnkVs57VJXsRkpEF2TNB6zP
punkman: ben_vulpes, just add Deed_title: bla bla on a line
punkman: maybe I make that just Title: ?
ben_vulpes: plus, imposing a structure on deeds is questionable
ben_vulpes goes back to permutating an api that the clients didn't want to document
punkman: someone asked for it at some point
ben_vulpes: my favorite part of software is telling clients "no".
ben_vulpes: for some reason saying no is harder in -assets.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16695 @ 0.0007295 = 12.179 BTC [-]
PeterL: what happens if the document has more than one line with Title: on it?
kakobrekla: bitbet is on the new boxen. if there is an emergency you can edit your hosts or wait couple of hours.
assbot: The Bitcoin Foundation finally incorporated! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
ben_vulpes: throw parseError("Don't fuck with me, assets")
punkman: deed/9ULZPc7yeZ9fQEA1aZ73H6mcv1s2C4gYFAbNTb5urovj << urovj , that deed hash
assbot: Bitcoin Address 1FundZy7m7b8begbh9haCguKJcAdFopRJ9
mircea_popescu: i mean, it's fucking incredible, the guy's anagram? rly ?! but sig checked out so.
punkman: vanity deeds! just append nonces until you get it
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> reddit << someone missed the point << yeah, tarddit continues to inhabit this delusion whereby what it thinks and understands matters and is important. for greater lulz!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33100 @ 0.00073087 = 24.1918 BTC [+]
mike_c: not having a reddit account helps me resist the occasional urge to educate them.
kakobrekla: meh i have put it back on the old box lol
PeterL: I never saw the appeal of reddit, it's like having all the inane comments from newspaper sites, but without the article to read
PeterL: some do, but not anything useful as far as I've seen
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> do newspaper sites still get comments anymore ? << Haven't seen any on the local papers recently, seems to have moved to Topix mostly, aka reddit for the poorer and stupider
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla home | log | search | bash | stats | wiki << pls to insert deeds
mircea_popescu: <fivezerotwo> reddit killed digg, one of the fastest growing tech startups at that time <<< ahahhhaha o gawd.
mircea_popescu: "digg decided to shoot itself in the head with web2.0, and reddit was one of the places that allowed child porn back then so here we are, hear us roar!"
kakobrekla: or else imma have to recode that header
mthreat: I can see why hitler came here after ww2
mike_c: ;;rate PeterL 1 author of scoopbot
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user PeterL has been recorded.
mike_c: nice to have that back.
PeterL: is checking every 5 minutes a good timeframe you think?
punkman: PeterL: name of website is a bit redundant, also might be better with irc names instead of rss authors
PeterL: right now it is pulling the author from the rss feed, to get irc nick would be a bit trickier
mike_c: hard code it. you have to maintain the list of blogs anyway
PeterL: it is also pulling the site title from the feed, it is not my fault they don't have a more interesting name for thier blog
punkman: just thinking it might be silly when it eventually says "by admin"
PeterL: yes, author is in rss, but author in rss feed does not match irc nick
kakobrekla: mike_c hardcode not worky. point is qntra has many contributors
PeterL: I guess it could get the author from the rss, then compare it against a list of irc nicks?
PeterL: and assbot stopped saying the names of linked pages
mike_c: point is qntra has many contributors << derp. oh yeah.
kakobrekla: or else someone comes here, pastes a link he controls, gets the ip from behind cloak
decimation: I wonder if usg has attempted to jail someone for possessing a private rsa key that is directly linked with extortion?
PeterL: have there been private rsa keys linked to extortion?
decimation: cazella's linked pastebin strongly implied such
decimation: although to be fair, the link to the gpg key is a bit tenuous
cazalla: PeterL, this "they don't have a more interesting name for thier blog", do you know we took almost 2 days to pick the name
PeterL: I just mean the blog name is exactly the same as the url
cazalla: if this was reddit, i would down vote you right now
cazalla: seriously though, i always like how penguirker did it
PeterL: which was just the link?
mircea_popescu: hm so i was just notified by the reddit sec that there's no reddit police
kakobrekla: and reddit nsa denied the whole thing.
mircea_popescu: <PeterL> is checking every 5 minutes a good timeframe you think? << yeah.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> seems like the logs have been ddos'ed << i see em ?
PeterL: so the bitcoin foundation has an address, what do they do with the donated bitcoins?
BingoBoingo: cazalla: The rank is based on the last full month
ben_vulpes: PinkPosixPXE: did the scriptkiddies getcher aws account?
gribble: logs.bitcoin-assets.com is down
gribble: log.bitcoin-assets.com is down
gribble: log1.bitcoin-assets.com is up
ben_vulpes: buttcorns again, probably knowing the jackoffs involved.
PeterL: mircea_popescu: have they stated anything they feel like doing yet?
decimation: so after watching Stierlitz, I surfed the wikipedia describing the NASDP government intelligence 4th department
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestapo "According to Canadian historian Robert Gellately's analysis of the local offices established, the Gestapo was—for the most part—made up of bureaucrats and clerical workers who depended upon denunciations by citizens for their information.[78] Gellately argued that it was because of
☟︎ decimation: the widespread willingness of Germans to inform on each other to the Gestapo that Germany between 1933 and 1945 was a prime example of panopticism."
decimation: so, really all you need to have a 'reign of terror' is to put a 'suggestion box' in front of the secret police office
mircea_popescu: all you need to have a reign of terror is to empower the bottom of the social hierarchy. it never fails.
mircea_popescu: be it the peasants in russia, or the derps in nazi germany, whenever the "common man" is taken from under the foot and put on the table trouble soon follows.
mircea_popescu: the us worked just fine, and definitely better than the entire rest of the world, BEFORE extending the franchise.
decimation: yeah, if the NASDP leadership weren't fucktards, they would have put more emphasis on actual intelligence rather than harassing idiots
decimation: mircea_popescu: agreed. as I drive to work, I listen to that french revolution podcast, and they just covered the 'housewife army' that managed to dislodge Louis from Versailles
mircea_popescu: whenever "joe said" is not automatically followed by "oh yea ? and who the fuck is joe ?" the situation is already in the handbasked and moments away from hell.
PinkPosixPXE: 19:46 #bitcoin-assets: <+ben_vulpes> PinkPosixPXE: did the scriptkiddies getcher aws account? << nope
PinkPosixPXE: may be dropped about 10000 packets total, and did nothing as soon as I flipped my ip..
PinkPosixPXE: perhaps they decided going after 1 person wasn't enough for their e-peen-inflation
mircea_popescu: wait a seccond. is lawsky the reddit supernintendo or the actual supernintendo ?
mircea_popescu: what else do you suppose keeps approximately-washed middle aged boys in shared apartments with internet access ?
PinkPosixPXE: I guess some idiots on reddit have to be scam trolls to get their daily income...
kakobrekla: idk, but 10 btc would buy a good fat crate'o'em < is this a protest of how unusable btc is to you or ?
kakobrekla: sadly i also need to convert to a more acceptable format
decimation: asciilifeform: I recall that you were a proponent of 'guaranteed income'
cazalla: ignoring the ridicule for having an iphone, i was going to write up this circle app but cannot because there is 2180 results for apps with the name circle and you must install ichunes to use the link to install :\
kakobrekla: asciilifeform and to answer your question, a few months
mike_c: first off, ridicule! second, how do you run an iphone without itunes anyway?
kakobrekla has optimized his reoccurring costs quite a bit
decimation: asciilifeform: like, if you are unwilling to provide for yourself, the gov't will supply one small stone cell with three gruels per day?
cazalla: mike_c, what would i use ichunes with my iphone for?
mike_c: well i don't know what you'd use an iphone for at all. but i thought you needed itunes to install shit on it.
cazalla: mike_c, you can use the appstore and just upload your music, download pics via ftp provided it is broken
mike_c: i guess you can use an iphone to impress the other girls at the party. gotta get a cute cover for it though.
decimation: asciilifeform: in Stierlitz, is it some kind of inside joke when they go through the 'personnel file' of every high ranking Nazi and they all say exactly the same thing?
decimation: of course. I feel like I started halfway in though, they keep mentioning his earlier exploits with V weapons and I seem to have missed that
cazalla: mike_c, i thought it was the girls that like to impress with their phone, blinged up cases and all
mike_c: yes, the key to the joke was "the other girls"
cazalla: mike_c, matters not, sporting an old phone will just get you labelled as a hipster because the 3310 is vintage yo
mike_c: certainly works in brooklyn
decimation: either those who are rich in bezzlars are sitting on their brilliant inventions or the method by which one comes to hold bezzlars has little to do with productive activity
decimation: of course, there is the 'george boole' problem, as you point out in the comments
decimation: asciilifeform: it is an odd fact that most 'upright' folks in the us would prefer to starve rather than depend on welfare, yet the same folks view their mortgage deductions as a birthright
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> wait a seccond. is lawsky the reddit supernintendo or the actual supernintendo ? << scam, he's just one of those rpi based emulators made the chicoms
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> one can get a nice flat and three fine meals [...] not coughing up any great advances in arts. <<< yes, they are.
mircea_popescu: from tax breaks to deferring of college debt, it's all a gift.
BingoBoingo: <cazalla> ignoring the ridicule for having an iphone, i was going to write up this circle app but cannot because there is 2180 results for apps with the name circle and you must install ichunes to use the link to install :\ << sounds like a review in itself
mircea_popescu: now to the massive task of documenting this deedsbot thing.
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Seriously plausible for a US coast.
decimation: yeah in ascii's area $2k for a house is cheap
mike_c: significantly cheaper than mine..
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla unlike europe, the us is very poorly developed.
mircea_popescu: not even kidding. you know that thing where you can't walk for 50 miles without ending up in a town, nor 10 miles without crossing a road ?
decimation: asciilifeform: I added all this up once, and came to the conclusion that every single person in the washington DC area must have an income of >$100k
decimation: regarding birth, the ironic thing about wash dc is that the majority of these 'burghers' are holding gov't jobs, which are more-or-less sinecures for life
decimation: meanwhile they have kids, who also need to eat
decimation: those kids being the exact objects which the real estate/job-for-life chumpatrons must devour to sustain themselves
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> not even kidding. you know that thing where you can't walk for 50 miles without ending up in a town, nor 10 miles without crossing a road ? << True story, did that.
decimation: lol so the wall street journal op-ed is where one makes usg policy now?
BingoBoingo: decimation: No, it's where USG policy used to be made
decimation: yeah, in the wash dc area it's just a little flatter I guess
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41888 @ 0.00072794 = 30.492 BTC [-] {5}
decimation: of course 99% of farmers prefer to receive usg electronic transfers directly to their accounts
decimation: for instance, he's still going to have to sell some gold to pay his land tax in dollars
decimation: that fellow who lived under a stump or whatever might claim to be somewhat independent, but really he's just taking advantage of usg's lack landlordship
mircea_popescu: you can't go plunk down a pile of em and get dollars in exchange.
mircea_popescu: then REFUSED to take the same in exchange for tax receipts ?
mircea_popescu: the only innovation there is refusing to take them in exchange for the only thing they used to be good for.
assbot: Chapter Jackson - It's Free Swipe Yo EBT (Explicit) - YouTube
decimation: mircea_popescu: I've heard it's common practice to buy 'qualified' goods and sell on ebay for usd
assbot: Food stamp fraud raising concerns in gov't offices - BusinessWeek
assbot: Court Order: BFL to transfer Bitcoins to Court | Qntra.net
mircea_popescu: that comes to... brace yourselves... 250 bucks a year per capita.
assbot: FBI — Fifty-Four Defendants Charged in $18 Million WIC and Food Stamp Fraud Conspiracy
assbot: Court Order: BFL to transfer Bitcoins to Court | Qntra.net
decimation: I like how one arm of USG is threating anyone who has touched a bitcoin, while the other arm claims that they could not possibly investigate welfare fraud
kakobrekla: i have enough of this waterboarding :p
decimation: well, welfare fraud definitely serves some purpose, otherwise usg would 'investigate' it
mircea_popescu: decimation lemme illustrate the point with a humorous story.
assbot: Massanutten. Water slides, mini-golf and bears.
mircea_popescu: the part where he says "Regardless of whether you waive the fine or not, and despite conditional terms added to reassert authority"
assbot: The #bitcoin-assets deed system pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: just as long as you agree to move your sustenance to stealing from the government, the government won.
mircea_popescu: you're still depending on it, whether you like it or not.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't care if you fight "for" or "against" it, just as long as your fight is ~about~ it.
decimation: massanutten is kind of a weird retirement area/resort for the wash dc area
decimation: for people who are not creative enough to find a more amusing place to live than a hill in rural Virginia
decimation: lol "That looks like a dog with a blanket on it. I'm not going to waste anyones time sending an officer out to check that. "
decimation: this guy is strong with the art of troll
decimation: so the anarcho-tyranny that 'upstanding citizens' complain about is really just two sides of the same customer service counter
decimation: the stick, for those who are willing to yield, the carrot for those who are willing to eat
mircea_popescu: people generally are slaves. this holds true irrespective of what the fashionable slavegarb is at any point.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> "ignore it" not with "debunk it" or "use it" << ignoring herr lysenko is best done from across an ocean. << the internet is an ocean.
BingoBoingo: Oh, we also beat coinfire to the BFL story
assbot: Court in the /ButterflyLabs case has ordered for some of the co bitcoins to be moved to a court wallet & to be sold:
https://t.co/7nxuZcdG7t nubbins`: ;;later tell asciilifeform do you have a preferred syntax highlighting style? we can make it match w/e
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00073222 = 10.6172 BTC [+]
cazalla: so the horse i bet on in the melb cup, Admire Rakti, fkn died after the race, i picked that horse as the name remember me of Autumn Radtke who also died lol
cazalla: Autumn Radtke being the bitcoin CEO that jumped out of a building earlier in the year
mircea_popescu: cazalla "No small talk, huh? They shoot your horse?" "f there's any justice..."
mircea_popescu: anyway, seems to me it delivered exactly as advertised.
cazalla: i watched that the other night, not bad
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform lol what, tshirts with the charter ? << F9 BE B4 D9
cazalla: andreas giving you the high hat or what
ben_vulpes: i'm seriously considering having it tattooed on myself
ben_vulpes: haven't decided if hex or actual binary yet tho
assbot: So you want to donate to support Bitcoin? How about donating to the real Bitcoin Foundation instead of Vessennes' scambox? : Bitcoin
ben_vulpes: i actually wanted that for the org url too
ben_vulpes: lol mircea_popescu's log fraud exposed
ben_vulpes: hey are you still giving away domains?
ben_vulpes: hm i recall perhaps fraudulently that you were giving away domains at one point.
ben_vulpes: <cazalla> ignoring the ridicule for having an iphone, i was going to write up this circle app but cannot because there is 2180 results for apps with the name circle and you must install ichunes to use the link to install :\ << i learned recently that 'app' name optimization is a thing that 'consultants' charge for.
cazalla: yeah, i've heard of appstore seo
ben_vulpes: it had its own hilarious acronym when introduced to me
ben_vulpes: jurov's donated hosting stuffs and wrapped in aws antiddos so i dun even know
gribble: Error: "dig" is not a valid command.
ben_vulpes: thanks mircea_popescu that's a rad domain and i'm thrilled that we have it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28700 @ 0.00073222 = 21.0147 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: dude i'm accustomed to my wish list not getting filled
ben_vulpes: "if the world were to against all reason smile upon my works" sort of attitude
mircea_popescu: somehow i doubt this will actually work, but anyway, ding me later with actual ns
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell jurov see above s'il vous plait
ben_vulpes: (the domain is both meaningful and follows the rules of domain name selection: be unique in the first chars)
assbot: Sir Richard Branson: "Discuss Bitcoin At Next Month's G20 Summit" | Qntra.net
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10867 @ 0.00073222 = 7.957 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: this time for real : if you see maintenance page on bitbet, flushdns
assbot: Global DNS Propagation Checker - What's My DNS?
mircea_popescu: "There undoubtedly needs to be work done to ensure that Bitcoin operates under a best practice regulatory regime."
mircea_popescu: not only this undoubtedly flies in the face of reason, but actually, it's bitcoin-illegal to "do work"
mircea_popescu: what other fucking undoubtedly do these people have ? global warming, right ?
Naphex thinks you just missed it
mircea_popescu: wasn't this supposed to be like all big deal discount "largest sale night of the year" etc ?
mircea_popescu: or what, the failure of last years' taken the jam out of the marketeer's donut ?
assbot: Gene Wolfe, Orson Scott Card, and others. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21139 @ 0.00073358 = 15.5071 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28211 @ 0.00073096 = 20.6211 BTC [-]
assbot: Topless Femen activists chased through Paris streets by riot police - YouTube
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Light Sweet Crude Oil (WTI) Feb 2015 to drop under $70 before 2015"
http://bitbet.us/bet/1059/ Odds: 43(Y):57(N) by coin, 44(Y):56(N) by weight. Total bet: 8.43659622 BTC. Current weight: 77,351.
gribble: Current Blocks: 328468 | Current Difficulty: 3.598564026507623E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 328607 | Next Difficulty In: 139 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 20 hours, 27 minutes, and 58 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
mircea_popescu: totally fascinating this notion that nudity is somehow antipatriarchy.
kakobrekla: light sweet crude oil ... totally wtf bet. 8.5 btc on it.
kakobrekla: well apparently so, who am i to argue with bb
punkbot: [trust-update] added: delta9 | removed: delta9
assbot: Tetrahydrocannabinol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
assbot: deedbundler/plugin.py at 367a7dd20b9ba4337c7c40b026706e09ee51c168 · extempore/deedbundler · GitHub
RagnarDanneskjol: i dont know why he chose delta9 other than reference to weed. there are 4 status updates that prompt the bot to speak: deed auth, deed bundle confirm, status/balance, and 'trust updates'
mircea_popescu: so if one wants to spider a lot of sites and extract links, how would one go about that ?
mircea_popescu: i'm talking "put in this file all urls found on all pages of 1mn sites" sort of thing.
assbot: sylvinus/node-crawler · GitHub
assbot: How to crawl a quarter billion webpages in 40 hours | DDI
mircea_popescu: "More precisely, I crawled 250,113,669 pages for just under 580 dollars in 39 hours and 25 minutes, using 20 Amazon EC2 machine instances."
jurov: whoa whoa.. things are moving quickly
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00073408 = 14.5348 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10755 @ 0.00073088 = 7.8606 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: 2000 Coinbase Accounts Phished Via Blockchain.info Public Notes | Qntra.net
jurov: ben_vulpes: so whom i should talk aboout f9beb4d9.org ?
jurov: it still strikes me as dorky, but whatever
jurov: what is base58 of 0xf9beb4d9 ? just to add extra dorkiness
assbot: Klikki Oy - Kaikki yleisesti käytössä olevat WordPress-versiot haavoittuvia
jurov: it's apparently 7PFyRz
jurov: 7PFyRz.org still free
punkman: mircea_popescu: mebbe it should only report moves in assbot's l2 ? << that's the idea
punkman: well I got no clue how he was both added/removed when nothing changed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.00072812 = 8.2642 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32550 @ 0.00072812 = 23.7003 BTC [-]
assbot: Common Crawl - The Data
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00072922 = 9.6257 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Coinero Project Seeks £150,000 For Bitcoin Gift Cards | Qntra.net
jurov: cazalla what is inercia?
jurov: and it would help to give the context what did you ask
bounce: guy got snippy, therefore scam
bounce suspects it was supposed to be "inertia"
jurov: yes to both... just would be good to see what Qs made him snippy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39038 @ 0.00073056 = 28.5196 BTC [+] {2}
punkbot: [trust-update] added: #bitcoin-otc
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell peterl maybe ratelimit scoopbot ? 1/hr/domain or something ? also add update protection somehow ? otherwise the temptation to flood is too great.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell enky srsly, "we love bitcoin" "comments are closed" and "don't send donations in BTC that coinbase can't process" on the same page ? what is this!
gribble: You rated user fivezerotwo on Sat Oct 18 10:55:21 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: kinda derpy kid with a kinda derpy botnet..
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25200 @ 0.00073081 = 18.4164 BTC [+]
assbot: The Bitcoin Foundation finally incorporated! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
Pierre_Rochard: One thing I had in mind was Accounts Payable / Accounts Receivable integrated with GPG, WoT, and deedbot
Pierre_Rochard: So that you send an encrypted/signed invoice to someone they’re accounting server imports it into their payables automatically, they approve it, payment goes out, everything is documented cryptographically
mircea_popescu: if you actually get this to where it's usable i'd heart you so hard...
Pierre_Rochard: the meat of it is there, the financial reporting will be fairly polished within a week, and the IRC integration I think I could get functional by the end of the year
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14568 @ 0.00072988 = 10.6329 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: listen, pick your poison of people who have proven bot capabilities. Azelphur FabianB_ punkman peterl kakobrekla to name a few.
mircea_popescu: have them do it for you, shave 10 months out of that year
Pierre_Rochard: Ok, will do! I’ll write up the spec and pass it around
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kakobrekla: hm, its been like 8 hrs or smth and i had 1k bots with uniqe ip fetching 'action=register' on bitbet
kakobrekla: retarded wp bots. its not even wp site.
kakobrekla: WP... what have you done to ze internet :(
assbot: Tech groups aid terror, says UK spy chief - FT.com
mircea_popescu: Most internet users, he adds, “would be comfortable with a better and more sustainable relationship between the [intelligence] agencies and the tech companies”. <<< bwahahaha.
mircea_popescu: and nine butch men in prison out of ten would be comfortable with probing Robert Hannigan bunghole.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28600 @ 0.00072713 = 20.7959 BTC [-]
assbot: Cody Wilson of 3D Gun and "Ghost Gunner" Fame Has His Companies Booted from Online Payment Processor Stripe - Hit & Run : Reason.com
assbot: Cody Wilson of 3D Gun and "Ghost Gunner" Fame Has His Companies Booted from Online Payment Processor Stripe - Hit & Run : Reason.com
bounce: IMO that guy likes to troll gun control proponents, but even so, why do payment processors feel the need to pass moral judgement on their clients?
mircea_popescu: for the same reason all assholes are assholes : they seek approval of whatever group of idiots they mistook for cool and important.
mircea_popescu: punkman: ;;gettrust assbot delta9 <<< ah yeah you're right.
assbot: Coinero Project Seeks £150,000 For Bitcoin Gift Cards | Qntra.net
mircea_popescu: punkbot: [trust-update] added: #bitcoin-otc << wait, wut ?!
punkman: there's a user named "#bitcoin-otc", I rated him to see what'd happen
mircea_popescu: what'd happen is thatit threw me for a loop, well done :p
nubbins`: so there's a bylaw in this city that you're not allowed to build a deck on your rooftop
nubbins`: the house next door had a rooftop deck, and the owner is a notorious asshole slumlord, so i called the city on him
nubbins`: so he removes the deck from the side of the house, pulls it into the middle of the roof, and WALLS OFF THE ENTRANCE so the deck can't be removed
nubbins`: now it's just sitting there, rotting, waiting to blow over and kill me while i bbq
nubbins`: i get in touch with the city about this guy 3-4 times per year
mircea_popescu: i have nfi how a city ends up with the notion it may make a bylaw about whether one can or can not build a deck.
nubbins`: me either. i'd love a rooftop deck
nubbins`: the city has "heritage regulations" for the downtown core, it's a nightmare
nubbins`: yeah. essentially, renovations are not allowed unless you keep your house in the style that was popular after the great fire in 1892
nubbins`: seriously, they regulate the width of the trim you put around your windows
mircea_popescu: this is such nonsense. i mean yeah, i can appreciate what they're trying to achieve : avoiding towns looking like the owners of property, who are by and large despicable lemmings and would make everything into a bauhaus atrocity.
mircea_popescu: but the notion that you can actually achieve this goal, just because it's noble, through making laws about it...
mircea_popescu: why not decide alberta is from now on 600ad byzantine style.
bounce: how many fires before you lot will start to build in stone?
nubbins`: well, the great thing about these bylaws is that people can be granted EXCEPTIONS
bounce idly plays with a lighter
nubbins`: so if you wave enough $$$, you can do w/e the fuck you want. build a condo in the battery, w/e
mircea_popescu: bounce you don't understand how the building works. if they used stone it'd sink into the ice.
bounce: just add extra freezers to fix the perma in permafrost
mircea_popescu: nubbins` o look! people built houses for their secret goat paramours or ?
nubbins`: half the roads aren't wide enough for cars
bounce: actually kinda weird. can't cool except move heat away and causing extra heat in the process
mircea_popescu: the only way to permanently cool is to enact a government-run heating process.
bounce: you're saying government can defy the laws of thermodynamics?
bounce: IME it's mostly non-functional hot air, rather illustrating the point
bounce: ... get a committee to agree
nubbins`: "the committee: it worked for C++"
bounce: anyway, so essentially anything you do causes entropy by waste heat. eventually heat death of the universe. but where does the energy to heat up come from?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` reported for inappropriate conduct in a business setting.
jurov: ben_vulpes: you said your job is herding of the cats, but you have problem with little bitching from me
jurov: ben_vulpes: just tell me to move to deadbeef.org and stfu
bounce: there's no search engine for sound bites, is there?
mircea_popescu: The public broadcaster believes its ownership of the smartphone refutes the former radio star’s claim that he was fired because of how he conducted himself in his “private life.” “The contents of that phone belong to the CBC — it’s the CBC’s property,” said a source familiar with the situation.
mircea_popescu: lesson to anyone anywhere : return your company provided gizmos, ask for a raise to compensate. today.
bounce: the IT dept. will thank you so much for having to deal with BYOD now
mircea_popescu: company wants to cya, company can pay more for everything.
bounce: this is something where you'd want multiple VMs on the phone. not just "profiles", but (near-)complete OS images to fulfill context-bound functions
mircea_popescu: why even bother ? own the phone, like any fucking artisan owns the tools of his trade.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck would a "personality" fall for this bullshit is beyond me.
bounce: even that needs lots of work. so far it's the telcos owning the thing.
bounce: even so, the OS is clearly geared toward catering for the expected owner, ie not you.
mircea_popescu: if it comes to it, go to zaire, buy phone there, come back, keep it in roaming. company can pay for airplane fare both ways, hotel stay, underage zaire hookers and the roaming fees.
bounce: of course some OS on phone. won't function without it.
nubbins`: chefs buy and maintain their own knives
mircea_popescu: nubbins` chefs have more sense than these libtard wailchorus muppets.
bounce: and take them to and fro their work too. then run afoul of UK knive legislation.
nubbins`: well y'know. if messy ghomeshi had sense, he wouldn't be in the pickle hes in
mircea_popescu: “There’s nothing stopping the CBC from making a more fulsome disclosure,” he said. “They should be out there making their pitch about what a great organization they are, what their values are, what their processes are, what they’re going to do to ensure this doesn’t happen again, what proactive steps they’ve taken, their support for women in the workplace.”
bounce: I mean, biking to work with a backpack full of knives? totally terrist.
mircea_popescu: ^ how about gtfo, the "public" is not equal to the libtard media, and nobody is to be held at random by randoim fuckwits dictating "what to do"
nubbins`: cbc is in a hard place these days. budget has been gutted by conservative govt's. they're less of a "great organization" with "values" every day
mircea_popescu: bounce there are reasons you can't have a decent meal in teh uk.
assbot: coddingtonbear/ircpdb · GitHub
nubbins`: you're just as likely nowadays to see a headline about two neighbours arguing over a fence
bounce: that was the case well before they passed loads of terrist legislation, though
ben_vulpes: 'cause that's not vulnerable to...stuff.
mircea_popescu: maybe we should buy cbc, make it all about "eat poor people" and "rape is a premier teaching tool"
bounce: head-explodie broadcasting world wide
bounce: not quite right, is it
mircea_popescu: almost sounds like a racial slur that's really ethnical.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu not in this town!!!
nubbins`: bbl sooper srs business meeting
bounce: needs airwolf for a corporate 'copter
mircea_popescu: someone should install a fighter jet carrier landing gear, complete with snap and everything.
bounce: the arrester wires aren't that much of a problem. it's the catapult that's a pain to maintain.
assbot: Jet Fighter Snaps Cable Landing on Aircraft Carrier.avi - YouTube
assbot: Jian Ghomeshi Sings 'All My Fans Make Me Sick' In 1996 Video
nubbins`: this is great, every less-than-admirable thing this guy has ever done is bubbling to the surface
nubbins`: the crash and burn will reach temperatures so high that not even soot will remain
assbot: The Guardian's Dark Social Traffic Problem - Business Insider
jurov: dem social traffickers
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00072952 = 4.8878 BTC [+]
nubbins`: Dark traffic is vexing because web publishers like to be able to offer their advertisers solid data on the quality of their readers.
nubbins`: cry me a river a goddamn mile wide. also, fuck you, businessinsider.com, for inserting copyright notices into my clipboard
nubbins`: The20YearIRCloud not anymore 8)
nubbins`: for a while, he was a young breath of life in our creaky, aging public broadcaster
nubbins`: have you heard of pamela wallin?
The20YearIRCloud: Yeah, but i know some of your documentary stars like ricky, bubbles and julian
nubbins`: incidentally, an actor on TPB alleged that ghomeshi assaulted her
PeterL: ;;later tell bingoboingo if you want scoopbot to link to n00dz and tits, you just have to put them in your blog
nubbins`: just so we're clear, you know these people are actors? ;p
The20YearIRCloud: people think they are, but they aren't, it says on the TV show itself that it's a documentary
nubbins`: incidentally, have you seen season 9 of tpb?
nubbins`: yeah, i like jacob's character
nubbins`: we actually published some of jacob's art last year
The20YearIRCloud: At any rate though, i'm shocked that Jian could get away with that stuff with Lucy due to her ranking in the RCAF
nubbins`: well i doubt she was an air force captain back then
The20YearIRCloud: Not as high ranking I believe, but she was mid level back then
nubbins`: the blue two-page spread in the bottom row is jacob's
mats_cd03: jian didn't do anything wrong, which is why lucy doesn't matter
mats_cd03: 'i sucked a dick ... to get outta there ... i didn't like it' -victims
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> cry me a river a goddamn mile wide. also, fuck you, businessinsider.com, for inserting copyright notices into my clipboard <<< srsly. dark traffic is best traffic.
nubbins`: if you were a woman alone with a guy who just slammed you against a wall by your throat and punched you in the head, you'd probably suck his dick to get outta there too
nubbins`: "fuck you, ghomeshi, i want to leave" followed by a "fuck me? FUCK YOU" and a throat-slitting probably didn't seem wildly implausible at the time, either
mircea_popescu: it's just this thing, a dude that's scared shitless ain't fucking anyone,
mircea_popescu: kinda unobvious how this works for anyone that's not either a rapist or in law enforcement, which prolly fuels a lot of the "eh, she's just a slut" backlash.
PeterL: dude scared shitless becomes a chick?
nubbins`: the pervasiveness of the "just a slut" line of thinking is a symptom of such a deep-rooted sickness in society that it's *almost* enough to make you feel pity for the people parroting it
PeterL: who actually says "just a slut"?
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mircea_popescu: what next, objects in mirrors being larger than they appear is also a symptom of deep rooted sickness ?
mircea_popescu: it's just a fringe effect of properly functioning vision.
nubbins`: you're equating human behaviour to the physical properties of a curved surface
nubbins`: you may, but you'll need to stretch that dough out a bit further before i can see what sort of loaf you're making
PeterL: "raped girl appears to be slut" === "object in mirror is larger than it appears"?
mircea_popescu: matter of appearences being discussed in both, right ?
mircea_popescu: if it's broken, it's not broken for the reason he offered.
nubbins`: mirror's curved to make the driver more cautious
nubbins`: er, wait, isn't it actually .. yeah
mircea_popescu: PeterL for canonicalness' sake, "object in mirror is larger than it appears" ; "raped girl is more virtuous than she appears".
mircea_popescu: anyway, on a more general note : be careful when you think you've found an incredibly deep rooted sickness.
nubbins`: speaking of sickness, i visited the rijksmuseum this summer and they had "sicknesses" stuck up all over the collections
PeterL: so I should say "raped girl appears slutty" === "object in mirror appears small"
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nubbins`: 500yo prayer nut with a yellow sticky note next to it ;/
nubbins`: but some of them were thought-provoking
mircea_popescu: anyway, to close the previous : human sexuality is built out of transgression. that transgression connotes sexuality is unavoidable given this. obviously lots of dumb shit will grow on that fertile ground, such as rape, or the puritan church. large ship, lotsa barnacles.
nubbins`: now there's something to chew on
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PeterL: so the bot was running fine, but then it says "killed", any idea why it would do that?
PeterL: why would it get a kill signal?
ben_vulpes: there are so many things that could have happened.
PeterL: hmm, not even sure where to start looking?
ben_vulpes: does it say "killed" in some kind of logs? were you running it in a terminal?
PeterL: I was running it in a terminal
ben_vulpes: well step one figure out how to daemonize a processes on your operating system is
PeterL: I had it running on nohup before, but it still dropped
PeterL: this time I was just watching it to see what would happen in a terminal
mircea_popescu: well so dig in logs see what sent it a sigterm or w/e it was
mircea_popescu: and since we're on the topic : sigkill does not go to the kernel. it goes to... init!
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assbot: ATC Closing Statement | Bingo Blog
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17361 @ 0.00072952 = 12.6652 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: i just read a claim that kind of astonishes me
ben_vulpes: "power law distributions are notable for having no stable mean, and infinite variance."
mircea_popescu: both of these being why they're such big fucking problems for human society.
assbot: Coding, Fast and Slow: Developers and the Psychology of Overconfidence
mircea_popescu: as an aside : socialism, in mathematical terms, is defined as "don't you worry your pretty head, power laws don't exist"
assbot: Coding, Fast and Slow: Developers and the Psychology of Overconfidence
mircea_popescu: directly equivalent to "don't you worry your pretty head, the black holes won't devour your soul along with anything you ever touched."
ben_vulpes: because socialism assumes or posits a stable mean.
mircea_popescu: (infinite variance and undefinied mean are not in fact different mathematical realities, merely two perceptibles of the same one(
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punkbot: mircea_popescu: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle.
mircea_popescu: the mere fact that something so stupid as ;;later tell ^ reference actually works is testament to the incredible coolness of technologies deployed here.
assbot: MPIF (F.MPIF) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: Eris Industries Leaks – week 1 | Preston Byrne
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell peterl wouldja throw prestonbryne.com into the feeds?
mircea_popescu: s/There is no pre-sale. There are no tokens. /There is no pre-sale. There are no takers. /
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes now why would i want to read the "business vc" spam in the irc chat ?
ben_vulpes: wth is enky's pricetalk doing in there then
mircea_popescu: "let us announce that we're not reading anything but will be making software". tyvm, go to techcrunch already.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and ironically enough this guy was already the recipient of a stuf and learn to read, bitch. but no, on he goes. "let me write software to improve girlfriends. oh, i've never had a girlfriend. but it's A SWINGER PARTY so it;'s all okaty right ?"
mircea_popescu: no dude. fucking swinger parties specifically boot young single males. because nobody wants them. boo hoo.
mircea_popescu: open source is for when you know how to code, not for when you can't find a job with any of the closed source sweatshops.
mircea_popescu: there should be a conviciton of forced labour @alcatel
mircea_popescu: actually fuck that. there should be a draft. russian style, all males over 18 spend two years coding under the whip.
mircea_popescu: no human contact and once a week laundry. just like a grad dorm.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform heroes are the product of factories in the same sense weapon grade uranium is
mircea_popescu: the factories in question are called separation plants.
mircea_popescu: punkman could whitespace to the left of Recent bundles lines be used to include a truncated list of contributor names ?
mircea_popescu: two years of having to wash toilets with toothbrush for having declared the pointers wrongly.
ben_vulpes: with that much meat standing around you could implement sexps in hardware again.
mircea_popescu: actually this is starting to take shape in my head. the male obnoxious adolescent camps could be like 3-400 miles north of nubbins' deck.
mircea_popescu: whereas the female obnoxious adolescent camps could be in a swamp. they may wear whatever they make themselves, gotta build swamphouses out of planks they make themselves and gotta spend 6 hours a day looking for pearls in the muck.
mircea_popescu: thenb they can spend the rest of the day making tiaras and other jewelries and selling them on etsy.
mircea_popescu: i gotta say, this was one of the most satisfying fuming sessions in recent memory.
mircea_popescu: well, you will notice how my outrageous hell exactly describes actual reality.
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mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo check out how motorized & mechanized we are nao hey!
punkbot: [trust-update] | removed: #bitcoin-otc
mircea_popescu: punkman maybe also name names ? [trust-update] | punkman removed #bitcoin-otc ; blabla
punkman: mircea_popescu: that'd be tricky
punkman: btw mpif bbet pending gain: 0.03 pot odds, 3.0 hanbot odds
assbot: Court Order: Butterfly Labs Bitcoins To Be Sold - Slashdot
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Indeed it does. Media needs audience too.
punkman: mircea_popescu: that's how much BTC the unresolved bets are worth if pot-favored side wins or hanbot-favored side wins
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I see this as the USG telegraphing the rectotherm future
mircea_popescu: im looking into getting it some mainstream media linkage too.
mike_c: BingoBoingo: any indication of how many btc?
assbot: Bitcoin Transaction 3c32fb3a29c078a81c40b6d88865e87bd80229a03c75b4c51fc784c79f64e117
jurov: mircea_popescu: i can do paypal
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52010 @ 0.00073032 = 37.9839 BTC [+] {3}
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BingoBoingo: ;;later tell cazalla the next quantcast qntra stats should be inspiring
diametric: he's an attention whore, i've talked to him before.
diametric: he comes into #reprap with various nicks promoting his shit
rithm: the trigger itself will be classified NFA
kakobrekla: >2000 coinbase.com accounts in less than 2 weeks for a total of almost 17 BTC.
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cazalla: BingoBoingo, i only just woke up but i am euphoric because of quantcast
BingoBoingo: cazalla: It won't show the interesting stuff for another 20 hours or so
cazalla: jurov: and it would help to give the context what did you ask <<< i didn't get answers to my questions, we just talked about bitcoin a little
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> how do stories like this usually end? that is, some idiot screams, all day, every day 'loophole! here's a loophole!' << Depends on how well they obey their leash. But every now and then you get a Hal Turner.
cazalla: jurov: cazalla what is inercia? <<< i'm just quoting the guy
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo is invited to write a ликбез ('likbez' - 'elimination of illiteracy) piece on the waterfall. << I guess I have homework now.
assbot: North Bergen blogger accused of threatening federal judges is held without bail | NJ.com
cazalla: that guy got trolled so hard by 4chan
BingoBoingo: Well, sometimes the handled has a longer lifespan than the handler expects. Like pet tortoises or parrots that get passed down by different generations, because why the fuck would they live longer than 7 sequential dogs.
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johntraveller: ;;eregister johntraveller 6C24 1224 C966 76FC CDDF 58A0 883D 1DD1 A66C 3321
gribble: Error: '6C24' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00072987 = 8.9774 BTC [-]
gribble: Error: Could not retrieve your key from keyserver. Either it isn't there, or it is invalid.
mircea_popescu: <diametric> he comes into #reprap with various nicks promoting his shit << actually ?! by hand ?!
gribble: Error: Could not retrieve your key from keyserver. Either it isn't there, or it is invalid.
diametric: mircea_popescu: in his earlier days, he also has some bots that come in from time to time to linkspam.
mircea_popescu: people worth under a bitcent aren't even worth knowing.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo is invited to write a ликбез ('likbez' - 'elimination of illiteracy) piece on the waterfall. << yeah prolly not a bad blog idea.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the age-old mistake of provocateurs - thinking their master's promises are to be kept <<< this, srsly. as all the various prettygirls are to soon find out, their choices aren't exactly what they thought they would be.
mircea_popescu: should take about an hour or so for the stuff to propagate, provided you sent it properly.
cazalla: anyway, i update that post with the log of our chat, i guess i was a little harsh but he would only give me fluff
johntraveller: cheers, I just added myself - found the otc wiki instructions
gribble: Nick 'johntraveller', with hostmask 'johntraveller!~isaac@5751fa19.skybroadband.com', is not identified.
cazalla: nubbins`: the city has "heritage regulations" for the downtown core, it's a nightmare <<< we have maintain the facade regulations in some parts of Melbourne, i like it tbh, it's the one part of town that looks nice
ben_vulpes: johntraveller: where'd you hear about -assets?
mircea_popescu: "Turner wrote on his blog June 2 that three federal appeals judges "deserve to be killed" for their decision in a case involving ordinances banning handguns in Chicago and suburban Oak Park."
johntraveller: speaking of, I was reading mp’s critique of yarvin
johntraveller: your criticism was good but you picked two weak articles of his to nitpick
mircea_popescu: johntraveller anyway, waht is that xenosystems thing ? and generally, explain for public benefit wtf this entire thing is, we lack an expert.
johntraveller: ok I’ll give as accurate a condensed overview as I can
johntraveller: with the obvious caveat I’m describing a fiarly heteregenous group of people and ideas so my summary will contain my own bias
johntraveller: so moldbug/yarvin was a typical california libertarian who dropped a lot of acid
johntraveller: i believe hans-herman hoppe (classical lib who wrote an anti-democracy tract) turned him onto anti-democracy
johntraveller: so he started looking up other anti-dem sources, eventually came across carlyle, to a lesser extent froude
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bounce: fighting with hald/dbus/udevd/*kit/systemd/whatever?
mircea_popescu: johntraveller okay. so basically it's this blogger and his commenters ?
bounce: so trying to setup whatever it was named, piping intel->nvidia video?
cazalla: mircea_popescu, nice! here's to it continuing
mircea_popescu: johntraveller actually that thing was linked here previously.
cazalla: i wonder how they are finding qntra
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jurov noticed his mailman addon looks exactly like a tumor, in other news
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mircea_popescu: johntraveller i know because at the time i had my research follow the thing to try and ascertain wtf this is from outside. the response came out as most of hte nodes are either tiny or long abandoned blogs, and pretty much nothing stil active.
bounce: no root or selinux being annoying or something?
bounce hasn't fought with xorg in a long time. not impressed by that bunch though.
bounce: looks like the nvidia part isn't the problem, but the intel part is.
mircea_popescu: remmeber, this is ubuntu, ie a linux implementation of windows
johntraveller: mircea_popescu: interesting. I would say the most active pre-existing groups (in order of size) were the manosphere guys, the HBD/white nationalist bloggers, the ‘orthosphere’ (a bunch of catholic bloggers), the lesswrong crowd
mircea_popescu: johntraveller isn't the lesswrong crowd flamingly libtard ?
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johntraveller: mircea_popescu: yes. but there’s a fringe of right-wing people (who have been slowly leaving)
mircea_popescu: so basically "this" isn't really anything, is it ? random wave at a rave.
bounce: as a totally wild guess, could try and stop nvidia from modesetting so the intel thing gets to do it
johntraveller: mircea_popescu: prior to 2012, yes. but since about a year or two ago people have started to cluster around the ‘neoreactionary’ label. that image is the meta-community growing self-aware
mircea_popescu: jurov better a software tumor of the mailman than a malignant tumor of the sexware!
johntraveller: xenosystems, twitter and 8chan.co/duck are the main gathering places
bounce: googling gives a couple of instant brainrot inducing "solutions". man, freedesktop is bad for the brain and no mistake.
mircea_popescu: johntraveller which brings us to the next question. how do you distinguish this from the usual usg psyops ? astroturfing/trolling for pseudo-communities ?
bounce: alright, n'mind me then
mircea_popescu: johntraveller chan's kinda on the fence re moldbug. you can search for him to get the various discussions if you care.
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johntraveller: asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yeah, I followed a bunch of the NRx guys for a long time as I hadn’t encountered anyone else saying the same things. but I got bored after a while, they clearly don’t have any plans or goals
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform everyone eats what they can. it's just that for a few that doesn't come out of a can.
mircea_popescu: we don't have a plan either. who the fuck needs plans when you got wmd.
bounce: words of musing and distraction
johntraveller: asciilifeform: yup, I’d agree with that. he himself said he had enough friends, he wanted better critics
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform strange that he tried to copy bitcoin but didn't manage to think of the assbot voice.
mircea_popescu avoids starting a rant on the topic as he's ranted recently and is well rantsated :D
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have this earlier convo burnished in my memory, me: "you know, it's quite possible you'll die there" op: "eh, fuckit. i'm too old anyway." me: "you're twenty four!"
johntraveller: asciilifeform: yeah. I also get the sense he hasn’t travelled much. living abroad makes it much easy to see your own cultural matrix, so to speak
mircea_popescu: guy had a pretty gf and a two year old kid. too old, iho.
johntraveller: asciilifeform: oh yeah, you’re right. my theory was that people like MP or taleb, who grew up in somewhat sane cultures, instinctively see the craziness of anglo-american ideas. if you grew up in the english speaking world it’s harder to see that
mircea_popescu: on the plus side, it's very easy to see the craziness of romanian o wait. nope. listen, somehow english speakers had a lot of trouble figuring out exactly how and exactly where ro nonsense was broken, back in the 90s.
johntraveller: mircea_popescu: spent a couple of years in china and a year in HK, visited malaysia, india, tibet, phillipines, algeria and a bunch of european coutnries
mircea_popescu: you looking for work ? we still need chinese coverage.
johntraveller: mircea_popescu: not looking for work but definitely open to btc-related projects
mircea_popescu: johntraveller one major thing is that qntra doesn't/can't quite follow chinese language news atm. if you can bridge that gap there's glory in there.
BingoBoingo: Definitely a glory hole in qntra's coverage there
jurov: today is the ipo, tomorrow is GLORY
mircea_popescu: also i wish it entered into the record that romania was at no point during its ~2500ish year history sane. not ever.
johntraveller: mircea_popescu: so I’m moving back to china in a couple of weeks. (working with my russian friend on a bunch of mobile-related projects). depending on how much money there is in it, my 1st thought is find a local finance student who could research/write part-time?
bounce: if you can find someone with decent english
jurov: johntraveller: the qntra writers are rewarded by shares
bounce: what sort of projects?
johntraveller: sadly not that exciting. mostly stuff around mobile marketing. my friend is the kind of guy involved in multiple pies though
mircea_popescu: johntraveller fluent foreigner is usually a better model than local esl, but maybe worth a shot.
bounce has a phone spec in mind that could stand building
johntraveller: mircea_popescu: hmm, maybe I should organise a couple local guys to do research and I write it up in english?
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bounce: more like, have a couple drafts laying around, should probably try and merge them
mircea_popescu: bounce aren't phones one of those things you gotta make 1mn units min ?
rithm: milk per-gallon has always been relatively high priced
chetty: I would go for a phone I knew didnt have n*a in it
bounce: have shop run up a sample or two and I'd be happy really
bounce: yes, and to fix that you'd really need to redesign the protocol
chetty: true, but we do what little we can ...(mostly I use the off button atm)
bounce: you could make a phone that gives you as much insight and control as available; this is quite a bit more than currently available.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if mail is used correctly (send/received armored gpg blobs) this yields no further information than already available.
bounce: and do a network side that isn't as full of holes as the current crop, and do proper separation, and provide a full off of the wireless side while leaving the other functions available, and so on.
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mircea_popescu: bounce i'd be happy with os stacks that didn't make world depend on internet etc.
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mircea_popescu: "There is no motherfucking reason conceivable or inconceivable that x.org should depend on netbase." i say!
bounce: freedesktop.org needs to die, more or less
johntraveller: thanks, I did already, was just reading more about qntra
johntraveller: bounce: a dutch entrepreneur in the city I’m moving to had his own tablet built a few years back
chetty: dont use fingerprint, usg says you have no privacy rights with those
mircea_popescu: you know, ever since the photo debate with bounce a few days ago, i'm kinda curious to see this photography drone gadget. imagine all the YOLO picutres taken by this orbiting drone thing.
bounce: drone with camera is pretty much COTS?
mircea_popescu: bounce but one specifically optimised for the role of following you around taking pictures of things. like a sort of gopro with ai.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> + much better homemade porn << noisy as shit though
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes "if you can hear Shooty you're not fucking her right" as a slogan ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform better yet, thing should know where the batteries are kept, fly over, change ITSELF. let the spare charge.
bounce: that'd be entirely out of spite, not for actual need
mircea_popescu: bounce spite is the only real engine of human progress.
bounce: those things aren't loss-free
johntraveller: bounce: dunno about cost. I don’t think he went especially ‘custom’, though lots of chinese firms have been making custom handsets with custom android mods.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform think about it, a cop-filming, revenge-porn-making, electrictity stealing personal dronepet!
johntraveller: asciilifeform: maybe some chinese kid will try and build his own lisp machine. sadly they’re not there yet
bounce would want (feature)phone hardware with full access and docs, add s/w myself
bounce: of the feature phone OS kind, no full linux and shit
mircea_popescu: there's either android, samsung retarded linux port or mac-whatever that is.
ben_vulpes: why should there be a "phone" object instead of a thing one plugs into computers that provides a /dev/phone?
bounce: well, that's why you order the things built in shenzen
ben_vulpes: i want to hook into the cell network from my laptop; make/receive calls etc
bounce is initially thinking of something like the 6310, only updated hardware. can easily still be b/w lcd. no need for fancy shit there.
bounce: heck, put a e-ink display on it. though those exist in sorta-colour too
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but you'd use the "phone" to push text anyway.
bounce: nope. plenty of places have nothing but dialup over rusty barbed wire
mircea_popescu: i dunno, maybe i'm weird, but the only actual point of calling, ie voice, would be a woman, and rather than call (ie, on phone) i'd always prefer to call (ie, bitch get on plane)
bounce: 'sides, the point of building a phone is to have access to all the capabilities on offer with the networks it gives access to
bounce: so I'd have modem and fax support as well as voice and sms and whatnot. whether you use it is up to you.
bounce: sure. though +/- 30v is a bit of a pain. and anyway, nobody does that these days, you'd interface through a 'net gateway somewhere.
bounce: but having "an app" to talk to such a gateway would be on the list
mircea_popescu: bounce you seriously duly received an actual fax in the course of business ?
bounce: used a faxmodem. good for talking to gov't but also for bypassing phone queues
bounce: instead of waiting in the queue, write letter, fax, get reception receipt
bounce: carries law protection and the receipt is valid in court
bounce: I don't *plan* on using that sort of thing, but if I'm building a phone it's gotta have the capability
bounce: just like it needs csd for dialup as well as crypto voice support
mircea_popescu: the "i don't plan to use the capability" thing makes me wonder : isn't it strange that "infertility" isn't the leading thing in dating sites and comedian's routines re dating sites ?
mircea_popescu: gals want a guy that's funny and whatever, guy wants a girl that's infertile.
bounce: apropos, fax is still popular in japan, apparently. great for quick sketches and notes. take picture, fax. sure why not.
mircea_popescu: by the time you explain what you want you could have drawn it five times over.
bounce: more reason to support it then
mircea_popescu: you are aware i folded in utter defeat like fifty lines up yes ?
dub has had to fax in the last couple of years
bounce: there's a bigger pattern here though
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dub: telco still goes to retarded lengths to maintain fax compat
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think that's mandated, buried in the license language somewhere 500 pages deep
mircea_popescu: which is why the "terrorist" members of the public don't want the government to have "capabilities"
bounce: IIRC they demodulate the fax and send the data over voip, then remodulate on the other end (or just hand you the fax data, if they can)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> 'own tablet' - means what? own chipset, nothing from 'arm' ? own os, from zero? << From slate with frame is a couple hours, input device is chalk
bounce: yeah, but "packets" with modulated fax signal in a sampled-and-compressed voice channel is rather tricky to get right. better to demodulate the fax and send the data.
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pete_dushenski: my nearest meatspace approximation is the masons w/o the symbols
pete_dushenski: and one with a structure quite unfamiliar to the western reader
pete_dushenski: so like everything else bad and trolling and terrorist mkay, it's hard to distinguish it from a cult
pete_dushenski: and at 3000 words, this makes the longest piece yet on the pages of contravex
mircea_popescu: The government tries to minimize publicity about the names of agents investigating cases involving potentially violent criminals. "The information (about agents) he gave out might threaten somebody's safety -- the information that he broadcast could imperil somebody," Ashman said.
mircea_popescu: police breaking down door, which obviously imperils someone - such as the random bystander, is a-ok. naming agents however MIGHT imperil someone, such as an asshole abusing his offical status to powerplay. this is very un-ok.
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mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski i thought you two were irl buddies or something
mircea_popescu: i guess i should start a special service. "for only one small pile of internet funbux, i will viciously insult one commenter on your blog entirely out of left side. cheaper than hiring indians to write comments, funnier too."
pete_dushenski: lol you'd be oversubscribed and end up closing mpex to focus on this "real work"
mircea_popescu: yeah i guess ima have to keep doing it on an amateur basis.
pete_dushenski: god this hotel lounge is fucking perfect, even if this old fashioned is watered down
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu even funbux corrupt. prolly better this way.
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jurov: did anyone try to send patches as decribed on btc-dev page?
ben_vulpes: it worked so i didn't poke at it further
jurov: ben_vulpes: but i added the rules only yesterday
jurov: ben_vulpes and what about the move to 0xdeadbeef.org or such?
mircea_popescu: "Regional Immigration Police Commissioner Maj. Gen. Chartchai Eimsaeng said a U.S.-based movie association had hired a Thai lawyer to search for Neij, and his photo had been given to immigration police in Nong Khai." herp.
ben_vulpes: plz do then tell mircea_popescu what they are and (pretty please) he will configure records appropriately
jurov: what is the domain exactly?
cazalla: mircea_popescu, i have a look later this arvo, things to do this morning
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: why not decide alberta is from now on 600ad byzantine style. << because progress. it's completely tragic how badly alberta's original building stock has been treated. perfectly lovely neoclassical buildings are now surface parking lots.
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