mod6: i thought you said it was like impossible to get?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform kinda weird reaction from the derps. it's almost as if they welcome teh ownage.
mircea_popescu: difference between "still works" and "still same". 100 yo lightbulbs still work, but they don't have the same resistance they had 100 years ago
mircea_popescu: still, not obvious why it'd be better than geiger, fiber or electronic noise.
mircea_popescu: heh. and if one day a comet with a heart of radium goes by, we'll know in the keys.
mircea_popescu: micro, rather than macro is the correct direction here.\
mircea_popescu: you don't want to tie-in to momentuous, galactic events
mod6: mircea_popescu: I've updated the tickets graph. The nodes are clickble now, and liednk to the htmlified tickets.html filon the server.
mod6: I've also got the graph going from L->R, i can't seem to get it to be less wide very easy. Anyway, let me know what you think:
mod6: all comments are welcome.
mod6: On the otherhand, there isn't a legend yet. Green nodes = Saga tickes, Red nodes = Defect tickets.
mod6: So got a few things left.
BingoBoingo: In other news Rodham-Clinton lost West Virginia to Sanders. Trump-Clinton won his contest.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo it's gonna be so fucking lulzy when trump ends up at the white house and he does exactly what obama did. remember, the nigger was gonna be entirely 100% not like bush, and like close down guantanamo and get out of iraq etc ?
ben_vulpes: man i hate the "legacy building" phase of presidencies
ben_vulpes: someone tried to tell me obab did away with DADT
ben_vulpes: nigga were you sleeping during third grade american civics? all he did is not veto it
BingoBoingo imagines ben_vulpes president of cascadia spending his last year in office tearing apart everything he built during his term
ben_vulpes: i can't really imagine "serving the people" in any way
mircea_popescu: "president of cascadia" and "serving the people" have very little overlap neh ?
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ben_vulpes: i think at this point $google only serves to demonstrate how pathetically useless google is.
ben_vulpes: mostly notable in my mind for not taking shit and dishing out solid cussings
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i don't actually know him
mircea_popescu: nah, he has better. "reading poetry is like explaining jokes, except the inane hipster is deeply attached to what he's doing"
mircea_popescu: see, and the dept of computer corrections tried to help you with your phuctor
trinque: ben_vulpes: gawd, I remember that pain. setting resource limits that triggered a restart was just "how it's done" on rails
mircea_popescu: "This defense of the personal in open source is so bad that twice I’ve had project leaders tell me strangely personal tragic shit about them to keep me from commenting publicly about their projects. "
mircea_popescu: by now an early point when checking people is to... look on phuctor.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform any chance i could get freeform grep for userstrings somewhere in there ?
mircea_popescu: annoyingly enough, there's a half dozen keys for zed a shaw from 1998-2002 ; all 1kb, from arizona state onwards.
mircea_popescu: the crypto war got so fucking lost for some reason... wtf happened in 2002 already.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron if you don't mind drop a note @lzsthw with a link here, tell him he can have 0.1 btc if he shows up.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: actually... consider giving someone with a bot sql access ? as per teh earlier discussions with this ?
trinque: asciilifeform: can do; drop me a gpg-gram with db info?
trinque: I'll be leaving in about 30min, can hax this tomorrow
ben_vulpes: because you need 300mb of browser to edit text files
trinque: asciilifeform: whenever is cool by me
ben_vulpes: it fires up a new webkit foe every team
ben_vulpes: yup this chat app is eating > 4G of ram rn
trinque: I refuse to use that thing through anything other than the IRC gateway
a111: Logged on 2016-05-11 16:34 mircea_popescu: danielpbarron if you don't mind drop a note @lzsthw with a link here, tell him he can have 0.1 btc if he shows up.
davout: i enjoyed his "learn C the hard way" and tried to pay him some btc for it a good while ago, didn't really catch as far as i remember
davout: imho his bubble isn't too far from sanity
davout: guy apparently relied on his wot for an educated opinion, looks like it failed him
mircea_popescu: hey mod6 if you have time today to hold my hand with your T, ima move the whole "hey x plox y" thing over.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the society of intelligent folk is entirely optional for other intelligent folk. he doesn't HAVE to. he may, if he wants to, s'all.
mircea_popescu: and as to the "o no, it was us in 2004"... link or it didn't happen.
mircea_popescu: for that money, i discovered america in 864, except i forgot to tell anyone at the time
mircea_popescu: somehow wot:nonperson has a hard time getting out of this mindset where he may actually contribute politically.
mircea_popescu: nobody fucking asks the cows what they thing about ethics, ie, "what's best" or such.
mircea_popescu: somehow they think they may propose judgements of value. it boggles the mind.
BingoBoingo: It's alright, he discovered white folk in 1792
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "seems legit based on what my contacts have confirmed", ie, lew rockwell stupidity all over again.
mircea_popescu: i'm of course none to pleased that intel virgins use intel terms of art as if that somehow makes them experienced, much in the way obnoxious 17yo prisses talk about things.
mircea_popescu: da fuck, every dude with a twitter and a github has "contacts" nao ? what is this, casablanca for the masses ?
mircea_popescu: and he trusts but verifies his contacts through a well oiled process of...
BingoBoingo: Perhaps his contaxt is Kumala from Vircures
mircea_popescu: talking of historical "contacts" (ie, derps accidentally caught in bitcoin historically), i'm still kinda curious re obsi. i suspect was a rather fuckable chick.
ben_vulpes: 'rather fuckable' pulled my right eyebrow clear up to my hairline
mircea_popescu: oddly i dun see anything in logs, though i'm pretty sure was chatting in chan at some point in 2012ish
BingoBoingo: In other news it looks like Ver barred himself from the US again. Put a "casino" on his webshite nao. Claims Curaçao license.
mircea_popescu: Sep 02 20:38:38 * Obsi (~Obsi@unaffiliated/obsi) has joined #bitcoin-assets << there
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nah, he was at some conference in USia within the last 4 months or so.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: He renounced his citizenship and made a fuss over not getting a visa once
mircea_popescu: similarly courts won't count emancipation unless you're actually prepared to be a state.
mircea_popescu: the whole "nationality" thing means "where do we dump this fuck to be rid of him".
mircea_popescu: siberia, for that matter, australia, the us before that...
mircea_popescu: early 90s, they'd just dump whores/gypsies around the danube.
mircea_popescu: eh. you have the strange ideas of a petit bourgeois that never went past rouen.
mircea_popescu: what's next, the gators are gun getcha in the wash dc swamp ?
mircea_popescu: with the flow of immigrants they've been dumping tons around the southern shores yes.
mircea_popescu: thread wasn't about bug acting on its own, thread was about "designated junkyards for this".
mircea_popescu: bug doesn't swarm because stupid ; bug swarms because at its size and so on, that's the only schelling point.
mircea_popescu: much like how women don't collectivize because stupid ; they collectivize because if you ain't got upper body strength, the shewail is all that's left.
mircea_popescu: being part of a sovereign that doesn't recognize others ; and has the tank divisions, means that you don't need "passports".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you're gonna read random garbage, plox provide summaries. i'm not going to follow "bitcoin-dev" bullshit.
mircea_popescu: last night while i was probing a butt with my own probiscus outdoors, a butterfly landed on it, and probed it with his own. prolly because sweat's so yummy to butterflies.
mircea_popescu: discussed as a joke at first with horrified girls, maybe eventually edged towards but not as a rule. what's the rush and what's the drive anyway.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-11 17:57 mircea_popescu: very nice pleasant warm autumn in Булучеало.
mircea_popescu: and of course the mayor's gonna be the başi-buzuk of buluk-ayres.
mircea_popescu: hopefully a guy by the name Bursuc (badger, ro) gets the job,
mircea_popescu: so then i can have over for dinner The Right Hon Mr. Bursuc, başıbozuk of Булучеало.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform explain "this". that it's the sad beach where every drop-out, burn-out, shithead who fails to understand that "running out of money" means you fail, that dropping out means you fail ends up shipwrecked on ? a sort of africa of the spirit, where you find they born of slave mothers and too weak, useless and unimportant to leave ; and they borne by free women who were too weak, useless and outright dumb to hold the
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> 'hk agreement' ?! << Miner cartel formalization, pretty sure on qntra
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> summary: todd steals mircea_popescu's idea of 'let's change pow to kill miners' << No, more "lets prevent further optimizations from counting to cement current miner cartel"
mircea_popescu: wait, i thought "modern science" established that mp hallucinated miner cartel.
BingoBoingo: Well, yes because you hallucinated it several months after they signed the papers
BingoBoingo: But basically thing that keeps current asics but prevents better asics is on power ranger hard fork wish lizt because of treaty.
mircea_popescu: (you could, in principle, build craft result actuarial tables just like you build resource mining maps or w/e ; then you can sell insurance in the complex sort of fx deals crafters need to provision their materials.)
j-dawg: can be crafting result substituted by money?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> what, 3% boost. << If the margins for running them are <3 then win if work
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo that particular angle smacks of someone playing risk. o really, "they won ww2" ? herp.
mircea_popescu: if only there was a way to sell their genius to patton for roubles or somesuch, they could have bought the whole russian stock exchange back before it was worth anything.
mircea_popescu: fwiw, young males that aren't entirely dumb go almost universally through this phase of "fantasy busienss" where they keep doing various coups in their heads, start a carwash then buy a shoestore with the proceeds then trade that in for a chain fo restaurants etc etc etc.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: it's a harmless thing for 14yos to engage in, and the basis of things like business tycoon games, a large chunk of what drives lego etc.
mircea_popescu: problem being by now it's the principal intellectual activity of esl adults, risibly enough.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo that particular angle smacks of someone playing risk. o really, "they won ww2" ? herp. << What do you think they think they are playing?
BingoBoingo: What does reality have to do with Amherst?
mircea_popescu: $google "regele pe cind mergea cu calul la pas, o castana hahaha i-a cazut in cap"
mircea_popescu: well anyway, it's from (ro) version of alice in wonderland. chestnut falls on king's head.
mircea_popescu: the roman version was pretty reasonable, about the same term then get land and an orc girl for a slave.
mircea_popescu: well the rome where term was ~29 years and they got land at the outskirts and a local slavegirl was post marian reform.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, yes, this is for some reason hardest for males, the simple disjunction "this one is special ; i am not special. it is my place in this world to be sacrificed for him.". it comes more naturally to mothers somehow.
mircea_popescu: though considering the time the same males spend playing "trading card games" and derived stuff where the levelling happens through SACRIFICING motherfucking other cards... you'd think it'd light up already.
mircea_popescu: what, can only be actor if leading man ? can't be supporting cast ? says so on statue of self ?
mircea_popescu: why can't it just be "there's people with theorems to prove still ; and their cocks won't suck themselves" ?
mircea_popescu: if you look at how the firmware works, only difference between boys and girls is ONE! Y chromosome.
mircea_popescu: imo this entire "can only play if the game's about me" is very much retardo-puritan nonsense, of the same ilk as "everything's a technologee and i shall better my lyf".
deedbot: fromphuctor voiced for 30 minutes.
fromphuctor: Let’s Encrypt is a new Certificate Authority: It’s free, automated, and open.
mircea_popescu: $google "What the WoT is, how it works and how to use it"
mircea_popescu: world of tanks lol. trinque wtf the api can't be that broken ?!
☟︎ mircea_popescu: so then fromphuctor : the dudes that made that aren't in the wot ; consequently, it's a scam.
fromphuctor: yes, but if they are giving away certs is because they want people to use theirs instead of others
mircea_popescu: well possibly it's his first time among sane people, so he never heard of this before.
fromphuctor: hopefully u should trust your browser... so u should trust the CA it supports, and so the browser support cert signed by the CA supported by the browser
mircea_popescu: besides, the web is something that happens in curl, not a browser.
fromphuctor: still how do u defend yourself from MitM attacks without a signede cert ?
deedbot: fromphuctor voiced for 30 minutes.
davout: guess coming from phuctor grants a few bonus points eh
fromphuctor: do u think US NIST is pushing ECC instead of RSA because they cannot crack RSA ?
mircea_popescu: davout it's just that [to my parser] he's managed to merely ask questions, without veering into the normative nonsense.
mircea_popescu: fromphuctor yeah ; this has actually been discussed in the logs.
mircea_popescu: ironically, they're now seeing themselves forced to migrate back to rsa ; because ecc shit is weak.
mircea_popescu: the whole ecc push may go down in history as one of the finest moments of "being too smart for one's own good" lulz.
fromphuctor: ideally people should just move to 4k keys, no ?
mircea_popescu: fromphuctor do you understand how deeds/deedbot work ?
davout: i've always been intrigued about this republican of ECC, is it because of something with the discrete logarithm problem underlying math i don't understand, or is it because of the particular way ECC crypto was developed?
mircea_popescu: one is that the mp excomunicated it, perhaps on the basis of not liking how it's being sold, perhaps because he reads the secret documents, who knows.
mircea_popescu: the other lobe is that when buying snake oil ; buy the cheapest. ecc is undully complicated.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform obv has his own list ; in the end it's one of those where people agreed with conclusions each for his own reason set i guess.
mircea_popescu: (and yes crypto is snake oil atm ; for reasons expounded upon by alf an' others).
fromphuctor: mircea, is deedbot giving away bitcoins ?!
mircea_popescu: also encourages individual study ; and sane individuals generally.
mircea_popescu: tmsr, aka b,tmsr~ and la serenissima. The Most Serene Republic, worldwide ultimate sovereign.
fromphuctor: ok, i leave, i have many things to read now :)
davout: i fail to see how this kind of proposition makes any sense in a "pari mutuel" context
davout: a dumb bot could place wagers on this kind of stuff
mircea_popescu: davout iirc bitbet tried it once, for curiosity. i guess they weren't watching along back then
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> hey mod6 if you have time today to hold my hand with your T, ima move the whole "hey x plox y" thing over. << hi! i should be available in a few hours for sure.