mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812408 the item the idle dorks "following" "open source" and "technology" "news" on "platforms" entirely miss is just how fucking inconsequential they are. not that this is some kind of surprise, lazy nonthinkers being bombarded with vacuous statements of their overpowering importance, so they end up believing the crap ; completely immune to the otherwise obvious and direct ☝︎

mircea_popescu: observation that the ~ONLY~ reason the empire of stupid puts forth that pretense has nothing to do with them and everything to do with the few remaining intelligent people that even speak the language / bother to tune in (a fine example being the recent "triggering" nonsense re the abort() manual : the pretense the neets matter is SO THAT RMS BELIEVES, not so that anything to do with the neets themselves ; yet somehow this te

mircea_popescu: xtbook example of abuse doesn't curdle anyone's wholly hallucinated "awareness")

mircea_popescu: in practical terms : trilema traffic is 97.5% direct, 1.7% from search engines and 0.5% from website links.

mircea_popescu: ie, it makes exactly 0 difference to its might whether the web even exists tomorrow or not. but even in this very constrained field, btcbase is a larger source than twitter, or facebook, or ycombinator, or you name it (and yes, any and all of the pantsuit platforms are vying for relevancy in my referral log, month after month after month, they just don't get to actually raise to importance on the merits of their own inconsequ

mircea_popescu: ential weakness)

mircea_popescu: and as far as "search traffic" is concerned, 99.x% of it is http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/cockworship-5.gif and so following.

mircea_popescu: in short, the diminutively tiny list of people who, to quote one among them, "I took evening classes from the institute via phone. (I half-listened while clicking through lolcat photos.)"... what difference can they possibly make, to anyone ?

mircea_popescu: (ref is http://trilema.com/2012/the-imbecilitarians/#footnote_7_43344 ).

mircea_popescu: but seriously now, so there's 10k, maybe 50k inept kids in this vertical. do you realise that's less than the average vampire stories franchise gets ? and do you understand they are EXACTLY as useful / capable / potent / whatever objective measure of capacity to alter reality ?

mircea_popescu: yes, slashdot was once the flagship of a mighty youth movement. so was woodstock, at one time. slashdot failed on its own power and found out what it's worth these days for a fucking reason -- the party moved, and it moved years ago.

mircea_popescu: 2018 web is ~= 1988 disco or 1968 "rock&roll". there's no beatles, there's no elvis, there's just you know, "rock and roller Little Richard performing in 2007" ie wikipedia. there's fucking F!TV. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: turn a tv on if you can find one, and tune it to mtv, which still exist. compare/contrast to 1988 mtv, it'll illustrate the matter perfectly. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: remember 1988 mtv ? peak of live concerts, 120 Minutes was just getting started... whole different story. heck, people who weren't complete mouthbreathers even owned tv sets back then.

mircea_popescu: in other lulz : http://www.pepijnvanerp.nl/2017/01/disappointing-outcome-of-bardens-vs-lanka-measles-proven-to-exist-but-anti-vaxxer-lanka-keeps-his-money/

mircea_popescu: hanbot, i suppose the answer would be asciilifeform 's "bottle". consider this place -- there's people who come and read the logs. every day, in the morning or in the evening or whatever. there's people who write code, there's people who do all kinds of stuff. where were they BEFORE ? they did physically exist, yes, you can't say "nowhere". so then ?

mircea_popescu: the fact of the matter is people will express their better nature if there's a space where they can do it ~meaningfully~.

mircea_popescu: and meaning is still predicated on a structure of authority, and that structure WILL always be present ; the pretense to its absence is just that, a conceit. exactly like socrates' "everyone has a philosophy", if you "have no authority" backing your structure of meaning, you simply have the dumbest one, like the http://trilema.com/2016/please-stop-using-dns-already-and-other-considerations/#selection-711.0-711.610 idiots. it'

mircea_popescu: ll be a condensate of hot topic and assorted politrucking, but it will be there, as a matter of course.

mircea_popescu: it didn't become obvious "there's nothing there". what became obvious was the curt cobain problem : that the only ~possible~ move remaining for the "man alone" is suicide.

mircea_popescu: very much the problem of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-11#1500956 ; though not for the causes he ascribes, nor with the divisions implicit etc. there's no future for man in the brave new world exactly in the sense and exactly for the reasons there was no future for man in soviet russia 8th decade. white, black, turqouise, russian, turkmen, georgian, it dun matter -- the only possible move for they confronted with totalitaria ☝︎

mircea_popescu: n systems who insist on staying solitary is suicide.

mircea_popescu: and that's what ultimately killed "music" (as particularly understood in the 1950-1980 interval) for schelling point-ness : the realisation that the only possible conclusion is cobain's ; and hence all the emo / goth / etc bs, tiptoeing around old man charon's boat.

mircea_popescu: and hence the 1990s, and the "information superhighway" bs. they were going to, poor darlings, subvert the morloch, with a very naive, all-inclusive, republic v0.1, built out of "net neutrality" and wikipedia. except of course for the part where it didn't work, it was a splendid plan.

mircea_popescu: but it didn't in fact work. so where do "rock'n'rollers" go when it's disco time ? same place zappa went, neh, to the bottle of bitters.

mircea_popescu: the world will be either authoritarian or totalitarian ; and only one of those is livable (though to people living through its early dissolution phases, it seems altogether as if things are improving -- much like the case may be that preteen orphans may subjectively perceive their first few hours with their new status actually liberating. then dinner time comes, and wel... the unbearable sadness of solitude sneaks in. somehow

mircea_popescu: .)

mircea_popescu: nevertheless, only one is livable, hence the "where are the rembrandts ?" and http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-13#1713764 and http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812598 and on and on. ☝︎☝︎

mircea_popescu: lobbes, holy shit he's fucking retarded, gimp has had scheme built in since 2005.

mircea_popescu: a better example of what exactly it means to be a monkey, with these inane expectations of wysiwyg-ism and gui-ism and rtfm-is-racist and nobody-will-ever-expect-you-to-think-if-they-truly-love-you and on AND ON...

mircea_popescu: since we're discussing "retards are retarded", here's a fine example : https://archive.is/RbD9o ; it consists of a) let's leak through the inept choice of "pad by the value of padding, so if you need 5 bytes of padding pad with 5 bytes each = 5" (and then pretend this is not to be reviewed "because popular" and also do every other elbow trick in the book to stick it past) followed unneringly by... b) construct elaborate ritua

mircea_popescu: ls to discuss the matter, including spurious naming conventions and all the rest of the monkey dance, EXCEPT in terms of "leaking padding schemes are retarded, DO NOT DO THAT."

mircea_popescu: that's your "experts" zx2c4, from matthew retardenfield all the way down the mongoloid chain.

mircea_popescu: and this is also why ~nobody of any consequence reads any of them. i'd rather read engelbert humperdinck's introduction to greek philosophy. at least he sings, which, unrelated as it may be, IS WAY THE FUCK MORE THAN ANY OF THESE IDLE FUCKTARDS EVER DID. or will ever do.

mircea_popescu: !!up fromdeedbot

mircea_popescu: either lisp or ada.

mircea_popescu: of course, the more cogent question is, ~why~ do you want to learn to code/program

mircea_popescu: well, this overanxious approach is a bad habit all of itself.

mircea_popescu: hey, i don't mind. but understand that avoiding bad habits is a lifelong uncompletable task, there's no magic pill that'll keep you safe from such. certainly contemplation from outside isn't much of one.

mircea_popescu: anything speciffic you're trying to express ?

mircea_popescu: how old are you then ?

mircea_popescu: i guess you'll have to do a bunch of log reading.

mircea_popescu: might as well pick a better nick.

mircea_popescu: so when you say you've been reading logs, what do you mean ?

mircea_popescu: yes, that's how "we know it's you".

mircea_popescu: it's more of a half year sort of thing, reading logs.

mircea_popescu: not so much as a prerequisite as a filter. reading helps you figure out if it's for you.

mircea_popescu: https://gitter.im/ << gotta archive this lulzgem. "Where communities thrive Gitter is a chat and networking platform that helps to manage, grow and connect communities through messaging, content and discovery."

mircea_popescu: reminds me of this chick on fetlife, "So you don't want to have a smart discuss, you're here for what ? What do you research here ? Because I'm agree with your description." ☟︎

mircea_popescu: !!up fromdeedbot

mircea_popescu: fromdeedbot, which thing is that ?

mircea_popescu: ah. yes.

mircea_popescu: so i take it you read http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/ ?

mircea_popescu: cool.

mircea_popescu: what do you mean "could" ?

mircea_popescu: it long ago has ; the republic built its uruguay datacenter out of what, you expect ? wot.

mircea_popescu: what's that mean ?

mircea_popescu: if by globally you mean "we throw darts at a earth globe", then yes, you're that late. if by globally you mean "every last idiot on two legs" you're way the fuck early, in the sense that such miracle's never gonna happen.

mircea_popescu: not really. most people are neither useful nor interesting.

mircea_popescu: mno. have you seen say http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ ?

mircea_popescu: everyone gets a tit string ; not everyone gets to be in the wot.

mircea_popescu: exactly as stated : that some of the usable bipedal mammals will get a serial id ; the unusable will get nothing. there's no birthright to the lordship.

mircea_popescu: it starts with http://trilema.com/2013/digging-through-archives-yields-gold/#selection-109.0-109.416

mircea_popescu: why did you think the usg bitcoin-ersatz is a good thing ?

mircea_popescu: meanwhile in random lulz, "Copy right laws are in tact and if you violate those rules then you will be prosecuted."

mircea_popescu: !!up gunnarson

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, 3 btc is like 30k, 4 * 8 + 2.5 is like 5k, did we misplace an order of magnitude somewhere ?

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, if you end up in hong kong next, it'll be 2/3 done! ☟︎

mircea_popescu looks.

mircea_popescu: !!up candi_lustt

mircea_popescu: candi_lustt http://cascadianhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/rockchip.lisp

mircea_popescu: i guess this'll take some more tinkering.

mircea_popescu: anyway, be the details as they may : the original http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1809921 / http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1809793 discussion was looking at a trip 3x the size ; downsizing it (which seems unavoidably necessary for OP considerations) has the tucked in advantage that you don't specifically need to refinance, if you don't want to. so prolly should discuss in board what discounts do you expect to see pre and ☝︎☝︎

mircea_popescu: post successful delivery.

mircea_popescu: but the good news is that lobbesbot permits you to do a bond auction a la carte.

mircea_popescu: !#s opennet.ru/opennews/art.shtml?num=44356

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-02#1461007 << you know, i wouldn't even call it lulz. "Система проверяет применение для начальных коэффициентов составных чисел и выявляет использование в разных ключах одинаковых цикличных коэффициентов (модуль), что может указывать на во ☝︎

mircea_popescu: зможное наличие дубликатов закрытого ключа. ", they produced that on their own power ? that's like... 1000% more than what the esl world managed.

mircea_popescu: anyway, https://www.opennet.ru/opennews/art.shtml?num=48531 item not even terrible. this Максиму Чиркову guy really should be here. https://www.opennet.ru/contact.shtml

mircea_popescu: ulaan baator.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-12#1812820 << no that was some guy being not nice, it never happened. ☝︎