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trinque: BingoBoingo: I've intentionally not produced any additional binaries which would bring into question whether future boojums came from me or gentoo upstream
trinque: any old debian or w/e you want should do, provided you have a vtools handy
BingoBoingo: In one hand I have a very enviable problem in a repeat customer wanting a box stood up. With that box the customer intends to have very capable hands under his control test the cuntoo build process. As a bonus they are offering to molest USB sticks into cuntoo propagators.
BingoBoingo: On the other hand my technical director is buried in work, Republican and Saecular. The boot drive we had been using to stand up boxes infrequently as we have... this box doesn't want to boot to. I would like to offer as pleasant an environment as possible for the customer's experiment, and for that... I suspect any old Debian will not do. The more time they have to do their experiment and the less they spend making the environment
BingoBoingo: right for their experiment, the better value they get.
BingoBoingo: I've made a new stick off of what Gentoo.org advertises as a "2012" build, but Gentoo.org isn't in my WOT.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i have 2h slot now, let's fill that order
BingoBoingo: We've got http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2295 but nothing similar for AMD64, after a day reading docs and working the brain I lack answers for "wat do" which appear palatable or right.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lemme know what's missing plox
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I made a new boot drive, just finished baking.
asciilifeform: this will be good test for 'can light up cuntoo from in a heathen gentoo'
asciilifeform: let's proceed plox
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if you anticipate lotsa log static for this one, let's take it to #p
BingoBoingo: Aite
asciilifeform: we're gonna fill that order, BingoBoingo , so customer licks lips & asks for seconds!111, ideally.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, as BingoBoingo marches to the magick cellar, today's trilemalotto yields : http://trilema.com/2014/the-finfisherfinspy-story-for-posterity/
trinque: BingoBoingo: sure, makes sense. is the reason I didn't bake such a thing clear?
asciilifeform: clear to me, trinque
trinque stands ready to assist if anybody hits a roadblock.
BingoBoingo: trinque: Very clear, was despairing at a potential for want of a nail that has since found nail
BingoBoingo: !Q later tell hanbot http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ODjpO/?raw=true << Credentials for AMD64 box
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: a++ BingoBoingo , ty for the hands
asciilifeform: hanbot, mircea_popescu : machine is ready for cuntoo beachhead .
asciilifeform: when comes time to cycle the mains, plox to ping BingoBoingo .
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo get some rest nao.
asciilifeform bbl, to eat/sleep
BingoBoingo to similar
BingoBoingo: In other news, some sort of Derp about Vzla meeting in town today. Going to be popping in and out of Datacenter just to be seen and watch the glory of the blinkenlights
BingoBoingo: Also in local news the police apparently raided the wrong house yesterday and a lulzy tape of herps hammering for minutes on the mundane for here front door gate before entering is lulzy tape.
asciilifeform: guten morgen BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: Mornin'
asciilifeform: in other cuntooisms : if anyone is short a x64 box to test-fire cuntoo with, asciilifeform has a surplus disposable box, 'lenovo s10-3' , with that same chipset as in x60 etc period ( https://archive.is/Dny84 ) , if anyone in l1 wants, it's yours for the cost of postage ( has a mechanical hdd in it, i fughet of what size ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( cpu is intel , 'N455', 1 of their earliest 64bit lappy product )
BingoBoingo: !Xview 1037
auctionbot: Buy order # 1037: 2k Wired Filthy Fiats (WU esta bien) Opening: 610mn ecu Leading Bid: None Ending: 2019-02-08 02:11:49.889189 UTC (20 hours 48 mins)
BingoBoingo: ^ Just under 21 hours left to bid in the Pizarro fiat buying auction
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/02/france-withdraws-ambassador-from-rome-over-macrons-opposition-to-italian-support-for-french-democracy/ << Qntra -- France Withdraws Ambassador From Rome Over Macron's Opposition To Italian Support For French Democracy
BingoBoingo: BTC/USD price implied by the opening offer is 3278.69 USD/BTC
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: s/participate diplomacy/participate in diplomacy/
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: ty, fxd
BingoBoingo: !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.03542500 hanbot AMD64 playground
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the everlulz, Cisza 21F sub 3h "Don't you know what lesbian means? fuck you" LordMPofTMSR "Lmao. I should know, I'm sure I fucked more than you." ☟︎
mircea_popescu: very much truth, btw, i don't know there exist three girls alive that've fucked more lesbians than you truly.
trinque: sorry about that ^
trinque: BingoBoingo: you'll have to re-run.
asciilifeform: guten tag trinque , mircea_popescu
trinque: now that we're at something of a cuntoo interude while folks are testing, I'll find some time to figure out what deedbot gags on time to time re: reconnecting
trinque: hola asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: hola!
mircea_popescu: trinque iirc spyked was sorta chasing the same bug.
mircea_popescu: can just as well eat something else off plate.\
mircea_popescu: dat trilemalotto, such wins in gems and goldbricks.
BingoBoingo: !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.03542500 hanbot AMD64 playground
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/cqlFK/?raw=true
BingoBoingo: ty trinque
mircea_popescu: three-an-a-half tits!
BingoBoingo: !!v 20D69B251E0AE308BC6F1FC96C91FE2BB5C9385B3E9F8D624E063793A34A97B4
mircea_popescu: 0.01 bitcoin, also known as a titspot.
deedbot: Invoiced mircea_popescu 0.03542500 << hanbot AMD64 playground
BingoBoingo: Titspots indeed
mircea_popescu goes to write the last month;'s report. which was going to get done sooner if we didn't end up drinking a lot of sangrias an' partying with the hooters waitresses.
asciilifeform: !!later tell diana_coman: finally dug up the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-03#1892086 item ( believe or not, '98 disk reads a++ ) : http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/vintage/oldies.tar.gz . you'll need 'arj' but that ought not to be problem on dos box. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-03 17:42 asciilifeform: diana_coman: it's on a mitsumi gold cd thing, i'ma excavate it tomorrow morning
asciilifeform: ( ~700MB , and cannot guarantee that all items will work on emulator, some of'em did require fiddling w/ config.sys etc in the olden days.. )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if you can get hold of actual dos box with e.g. 'soundblaster', most of what's in there oughta work, in principle.
diana_coman: thanks asciilifeform! I'm downloading it
asciilifeform: diana_coman: np. lemme know which flavours the kid ended up liking, i may have moar in the depths of the warez chests along those lines. ☟︎
diana_coman: atm he's struggling to become finger-agile enough for supaplex-proficiency so it might take a while
diana_coman: he still has restriction on too much screen time so there is that factor too
asciilifeform: i played good chunk of those back when was same size as him and at elder brother's mercy for cpu cycles, lol, also
BingoBoingo: In other olds, the present live version of this archived url shows nothing but EU General Derp Protection Act redaction notice https://archive.is/msyuN
diana_coman: iirc I was a bit older actually; at 6-7 it was only Basic and casette loading stuff, I think I was more like 10-12 for supaplex
asciilifeform: ah hm i may have overestimated the size
mircea_popescu: diana_coman not as long as you think, i recall the same exact summer i went from fearing the forks in june to playing with them for sport in august.
mircea_popescu: (i am right in thinking the "move just as it approaches so it turns around" trick is common knowledge yes ?)
diana_coman: heh, yes; he still gets caught at "run down chased by stuff and turn sharply left/right"
mircea_popescu: hehe.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i can't picture one'd get far in supa w/out knowing that, yea
mircea_popescu: i think i was more like 7 than 5
mircea_popescu: btw, if anyone cares -- i never had "screentime restrictions" besides a purely oral "would you be reasonable!!!" ; doesn't seem to have done me any harm.
mircea_popescu: the high level i suppose is disputable ; but when getting down to practicals, i was still reading the bottom line on the eye chart at time-and-a-half the distance when we fitted bimbo for glasses. ☟︎
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I never had screen restriction either but for one thing, I did not start at 4 and for the other there is plenty other stuff (including sleep!) that needs to fit it so...
mircea_popescu: sleep is for later, when he goes to bed with girls. ALL THE TIME FOR SLEEP IN THE WORLD THEN!
asciilifeform didnt have 'restriction' as such, but when was single-digit y.o. shared what was left of the day's cpu after brother had eaten
mircea_popescu: now computers, that's important.
asciilifeform: arguably both asciilifeform & brother had 'too much screen' , given as both grew to program for bread, life of sin.
mircea_popescu: the sad truth of the matter being, that with the machines in the shit our simpler brothers (whom jahweh still awaits in his special place in his kingdom) it's much easier for children than for adults to maintain interest in the damned things.
mircea_popescu: too much shit to annoy and irritate once one's past his prime.
diana_coman: hm, I'm not even sure he doesn't disagree on that already given that he was at his happiest when among 3 sisters
mircea_popescu: lol.
mircea_popescu: did he splash 'em ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a greybeard once told asciilifeform , 'you dun know it, but you got finite # loc in you, once you've written them will stand the machine no moar and have to move to forest and eat bark'. i'm not even convinced that it was joke.
diana_coman: no idea but according to reports he "looked totally like a satisfied cat and didn't want to leave"
mircea_popescu: now you see why i save.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, q being though ...what's wrong with moving to the forest anyway?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the moar loc, the less i see wrong w/bark, lol
mircea_popescu: his appreciation for culinary virtues of treebark isn't fully developed yet.
asciilifeform: it develops as the odometer rolls.
diana_coman: well, just choose some forest with...mushrooms at least!
mircea_popescu: who knows, maybe you end up reinventing java then.
asciilifeform: the idea , i think, is to stop before the fungus sets in an' you start producing those.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-07#1893445 << who was bimbo ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-07 19:18 mircea_popescu: the high level i suppose is disputable ; but when getting down to practicals, i was still reading the bottom line on the eye chart at time-and-a-half the distance when we fitted bimbo for glasses.
mircea_popescu: you know, http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-05#1892631 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-05 01:24 feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2019/02/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-june-july-and-august-1715-account-of-books-ii/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of June, July and August, 1715. - Account of Books - II.
asciilifeform: aaa
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ftr, ~each~ memo line for the ~same machine~ during the past 4 billings reads differently.
mircea_popescu: why not just pick something and go with it ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Will do
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: imho oughta formulate as ' $machine ; $interval ; $ cost '
BingoBoingo: Will make sure all that information is included
BingoBoingo: In other wild finds relating to http://trilema.com/2015/heres-what-they-dont-tell-you-when-they-bring-you-those-papers-to-sign/ See: Pinned Tweet Charlie Shrem Verified account @CharlieShrem 20 Feb 2017: Watch me go from CEO to Dishwasher in "Disrupting Money" (derpurl) ☟︎
asciilifeform: lol 'surprised by wealth'(tm)(r)(esr)
mircea_popescu: guy was always a dishwasher.
asciilifeform: i expect will soon write megab00k, 'how to lose friends and infuriate people'
mircea_popescu: it's a wonder nobody ever "figures out" the grand usgistani preoccupation with "youth" is entirely built out of a solid bedrock of "you will disapoint" certainty.
mircea_popescu: is this format irritating actually ?
asciilifeform: imho this is great format ( tho phf hasn't baked the eater of it yet )
mircea_popescu: kinda seems to me the alternative of unanchored urls even more infuriating
asciilifeform: if he finds how to make the eater survive broken lines , will be double win
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun find the [] irritating at all
asciilifeform: think, could actually ~use~ hypertext...
mircea_popescu: !!deed http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/OVeeP/?raw=true
deedbot: accepted: 1
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the usg.'youth' eagerly and w/out much massage swallow the 'you have Great Ideas!11' idjicy ( where reality is 'yer a not-yet-dry lemon to squeeze' )
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu had a piece where described this algo, on which errything from hollywood to softwaretardism has been running for ~100y
asciilifeform: koschei economy.
mircea_popescu: the problem is the breakdown of the fambly. father should have craked skull let all the goange & gargauni out long before 18th bday.
asciilifeform: hm i thought it was 'gargauni & barzauni'
mircea_popescu: also. many kinds.
asciilifeform: ( on asciilifeform's home planet typically folx say simply тараканы , i.e. cockroaches , in skull )
mircea_popescu: romanians imply various subtle distinction. eg, "gargaun" would be the sort of skittering beetle that digs unseen and ruins structures, like termite or weevil (the folk name of which, "gargarita", very much model for name) ☟︎
asciilifeform: nifty, descriptive.
mircea_popescu: whereas barzaun would be loudly and ineptly flying item, like various carabidae
mircea_popescu: so in this sense, inept shit like "o guys, i'm bitcoin jizzus" very much barzaun, whereas inept idiocy like "oh, why should i read log, i am busyman", gargaun.
mircea_popescu: goange more generic name, and i fear the implication is that female headspace not worthy of such distinctions, to be described generically.
mircea_popescu: hence why "goange & gargauni" implies a gender-balanced population, whereas the other'd go better with eg gunnery sgt hartman's job.
mircea_popescu: (in the direct, barzaun is the euro hornet, vespa crabro)
asciilifeform: sadly seems that father can not only remove these , but insert.
mircea_popescu: there's a reason maga's but a dream.
asciilifeform: y'know , sorta like how zoologists found iirc that hedgehog (the most flea-infested known , afaik, beast) can be de-flea'd, and breed similarly clean hedgehog
asciilifeform: but erry known specimen from wild carries multiple grams of flea
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't want to play any computer games hedgehogs made.
asciilifeform: ( incidentally afaik hedgehog is not found in the americas. and i do not know specifically why, gotta presume that ~someone~ must've set some loose at some point -- but they cannot live here )
mircea_popescu: possibly raccoon eats ?
asciilifeform: could be
asciilifeform: if can eat hive of hornets whole, and even drywall -- wainot hedgehog.
asciilifeform bbl,meats
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/minigame-smg-january-2019-statement/ << Trilema -- MiniGame (S.MG), January 2019 Statement
diana_coman: I'll add to gargauni, goange and barzauni the "fluturi" as one might have those too!
diana_coman: since fluturi are butterflies, they are obviously lighter and not loud but also without much substance and not long lived
diana_coman: sort of day-dreaming stuff
mircea_popescu: arguably least harmful variety.
mircea_popescu: fwih esl gals only get them in the stomach.
mircea_popescu: a more practical-minded culture, aka "numa' la foale ti-i gindu', sa le-ndopi!"
diana_coman: well yes, less harmful, perhaps even pretty for a bit (until one remembers that they are anyway just flying worms of sorts)
mircea_popescu: sa scoatem untul din fluturi, tovarasi!
diana_coman: sometimes I wonder if practical-minded is not the polite way of saying unimaginative but anyways
diana_coman: daca-i cu tovarasi e cu margarina, nu cu unt!!
mircea_popescu: well... what comes out lol
feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2019/02/07/seppuku-job-market-minimal-dynamic-tasking-in-ada/ << Ossasepia -- Seppuku Job Market: Minimal Dynamic Tasking in Ada
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/where-da-party-at/ << Trilema -- Where da party at ?!
shinohai: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2019/where-da-party-at/#selection-127.0-127.12 <<< space?
mircea_popescu: it is actually a word.
shinohai: O.o
asciilifeform reads diana_coman's opus..
asciilifeform: a++ title btw.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: 1 immediate q : why do the worker jobs have to be terminated & rebirthed ( rather than having N , 1 per cpu, and 4evah infinite loop of plucking work from queue & placing in finishedworx queue when done ) ?
mircea_popescu: because there's potentially more types of jobs than cores.
mircea_popescu: if you go "job is the player", then you'll trivially want to support more than 1 player/core. if you go "job is crafting or w/e", you will have 50 cores doing "crafting" one time and 5 another time depending and so on.
mircea_popescu: ie, you can't really have static jobs.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'workers' are specialized for particular type of job ? ( i haven't read the proggy yet -- but seems to me that if that's the case, oughta specialize'em by case selector inside 'worker', rather than eating the overhead of rebirthing thread 9000/sec )
asciilifeform: anyways i'ma only say moar after read proggy.
mircea_popescu: i find apache an excellent model for the problem here. the concept of "worker" as used there specifically.
asciilifeform has not used ada threadism yet, so quite interested to see what diana_coman made of it
mircea_popescu: i actually quite like the encapsulation she calls "sjm"
asciilifeform: http://ossasepia.com/2019/02/07/seppuku-job-market-minimal-dynamic-tasking-in-ada/#selection-101.42-101.207 << possibly i mentioned this prev., but asciilifeform avoids secondarystack not because it doesn't work reliably , but because it makes audit of binary moar difficult. i dunno if this concern is really applicable to items other than ffa.
mircea_popescu: it is most wise to start restricted and push out as need be, no sooner.
asciilifeform does not disagree
asciilifeform: http://ossasepia.com/2019/02/07/seppuku-job-market-minimal-dynamic-tasking-in-ada/#selection-109.1672-109.1738 << will be interesting to see if this functions if stuffed into a static lib, in light of the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-22#1889467 puzzler ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-22 22:35 asciilifeform: this is done with a standard ada feature called 'controlled limited type'. which i found that, for no documented reason, dunwork in gnat's static lib.
asciilifeform: i'm betting that it will work , cuz the type aint exported.