a111: Logged on 2017-07-17 12:23 mod6: asciilifeform: real 313m41.727s
a111: Logged on 2017-07-17 13:32 asciilifeform: live is too short to attempt to use eyeballs as diff.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, takes this box longer to sha, or to gzip, than it takes to download.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: bad noose : 9G << heh, ok pr0n dvd
mod6: <+asciilifeform> exactly 65536 ascii lines << sweet
mod6: some proper anal right there
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> that "abstract art" work we shall call the colors of factorial. << this sounds interesting
mod6: ben_vulpes lays it out there eh?
mod6: there've been a bunch of threads on it in the logs.
floog: well, it just says 'redacted the actual goodies'
mod6: damn these old logs.
mod6: fun to read this stuff
BingoBoingo: <floog> at least it pays for the whale of student debt from the private uni that my parents convinced me was a good investment << Get fiat poor, stop paying, admit powerlessness. You are at rock bottom. Your bankruptcy now is not a financial one, but a moral and spiritual one. However THERE IS A SOLUTION!
BingoBoingo: <floog> emphasis on 'poor' << Next come to believe that a HIGHER POWER (perhaps one your came here to unwrap) can restore you to sanity
deedbot: badD00d voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: badD00d: Who is your daddy and what does he do?
badD00d: my daddy, for your fucking information is.... alive and well
BingoBoingo: <mod6> some proper anal right there << Also great example of the importance of selecting the woman for ergonomics.
badD00d: question for the TRB node running gentlemen
badD00d: will TRB nodes start rejecting blocks whenever BIP91 or other bologna segwit proposals gain the majority hashing power?
badD00d: right, and I respect that. I guess I am wondering when you think the majority of hashing power will start agreeing on non-legit shit blocks?
badD00d: like at some point, the shitty masses are going to start consuming their fake shitty blocks.
mircea_popescu: they're consuming teh fiat dollars as it is, doesn't seem to have much impact on anything.
badD00d: I am wondering if you have an estimation as to when this will be and as a second questions (if TRB nodes will be the ONLY non-shit accepting nodes, or if you think there are other groups of people running nodes that will side with your nodes and continue rejecting shit
mircea_popescu: your question is ill posed. if tomorrow a large enough collection of idiots decides to call making hooky "bitcoin", this will be great and good and entirely uninteresting for bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: if the us fed starts printing "one hundred bitcoin" bills instead of the current one hundred dollar bills, this'll also do ~nothing as far as nayone is concerned.
mircea_popescu: the notion that bitcoin can somehow by stolen by name is so ridoinculous as to betray its ustardian origins. bitcoin is not a name.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: badD00d: TRB now WILL accept segwit blocks, but it will not parse the segwit'd portion as anything other than "anyone can spend"
floog: BingoBoingo: I'm going to keep paying my bills, i'd rather not get rammed by the USG when it comes after its money. im cool with everything else though
mircea_popescu: apparently the "it REALLY doesn't matter what you do" point is entirely incomprehensible to teh esl.
mircea_popescu: floog the only reason you're not getting rammed is that you don't have anything worth stealing.
BingoBoingo: floog: Nah, that's the thing. If you make yourself fiat poor THEY en-PRIVILEDGE YOU
BingoBoingo: The solution is get poor, stack up some turkeys, and blow the joint
badD00d: anyway, thanks for putting up with my questions
floog: where do get turkeys? where do run after turkeys acquired?
mircea_popescu: (echo "obase=16" ; cat fct.txt) | bc >> fact-hex.txt works as expected to convert btw.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sorta job each miner gotta do for himself neh ?
mircea_popescu: "we'll call it classic and pretend like it's totally different in our fakenews rags"
mircea_popescu: by this understanding of forking, everyone running a bitcoin node on a box that's lost internet connection "forked"
mircea_popescu: but anyway, it's quite evident and not a matter open to much dispute that a whole lot of not-really-into-bitcoin barnacles have been steadily accumulating, at least in their own esitmation, since 2012 or so.
mircea_popescu: they get scraped off, new sets come on, it's the fate of ship on open seas.
mircea_popescu: ie, people will drop ~a specific form~ of a stupid idea just as soon as it's literally beaten from their cold, dead hands, AND NEVER BEFORE.
deedbot: punto voiced for 30 minutes.
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2225.0, vol: 27624.25877228 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 2168.0, vol: 9172.94514 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2187.2, vol: 40989.87519083 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2234.845746, vol: 14348.85940000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2183.258, vol: 13560.2812637 | Volume-weighted last average: 2201.37537846
BingoBoingo: WAPO Returns headline: "Swole Jeff Bezos Is Exactly the Meme the World Needed"
BingoBoingo: Apparently according to his fake news outlet: "Most people know that online firearm sales create big loopholes that allow customers to bypass background checks—but who knew e-commerce pioneer Jeff Bezos was hawking guns like these?! The Amazon CEO and Washington Post owner showed up to an Idaho conference in a skintight T-shirt last week, displaying a set of arms most reasonable observers would classify as assault weapons."
mircea_popescu: o we're down to "most people know" ? i thought usg shares were firmly at "everyone knows" ?
BingoBoingo: Well, gotta probe vanity publishing ass further: "Bezos used to be a giant baby-faced, Kevin-Spacey-faced nerd who sold textbooks on a website and looked ecstatic merely to be alive. Now, he’s buying up bougie grocery stores and publishing a newspaper with a metal-ass tagline. He’s in the putting businesses out of business business, and he’s got the muscle and shaved head to prove it."
BingoBoingo: Apparently pantsuits like to give the rimjob to the boss?
mircea_popescu: did the guy's payola mcnuggets & happy meals not make it this month or wtf is their problem.
BingoBoingo: Apparently they are sexually harassing the boss to get him fired? Or mebbe he used owning a newspaper to ghostwrite the thing.
BingoBoingo: Yes, and in 18 months Trump will go from equalling Bezos in Senator count to clearly passing Bezos
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You gotta read it for what it is, appeal to his re-adolescent ego.
BingoBoingo: Because Bezos sees pantsuit in disarray and wants to become a bull in move to capture pantsuit for self instead of being its bitch boy
mircea_popescu: the "appear hamplanet harmless" ploy not even bad approach to that goal.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> wai would a richd00d take ballshrinkelixir << Apparently some users find shrank balls more comfortable, also HCG can be used to preven the shrink
BingoBoingo: Anyways wears shirt because horrifying cystic acne. t-shirt because cotton is absorbent
BingoBoingo predicts trend of pantsuit boy CEO's getting into this sort of artificial masculinity and calling it "biohacking"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the other half of the faux dilemma. "transsexual or biohacker ?"
BingoBoingo: It's a trilema: transexual, biohacker, or transmayo unsexual
BingoBoingo: Nah, trenbolone isn't lich sort of thing. Definitely a "burn brighter, faster" sort of thing. Cattle feedlot stuff.
BingoBoingo: Gotta get the steers to put on size without getting tough
BingoBoingo: A marginally life shortening "Who wants to be 90 anyways" deal
BingoBoingo: Essentially boosting the engine's compression without upgrading the plumbing, promotes cardiac and psychiatric deaths
BingoBoingo: In the feedlot the doped of course are in supermarket before those outcomes can happen.
mircea_popescu: gotta cut the total male-years somehow, and chem cockcage prolly even cheaper than the steel item.
BingoBoingo: Of all the fake testosterones, Tren is the one that doesn't require supplementing with testosterone in order to allow boners, so popular. Does work as male birth control though.
BingoBoingo: Well, there's manosphere community corners that promote the artificial testosteroning as the exact thing girly birth control is. Except with cool weight gain.
trinque: seems pretty gay, according to my brief googling. wall of faggy before / after pics.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, it doesn't actually do magic swole imparting without at least some exercise.
trinque: in that, best and lulziest eugenics
trinque: BingoBoingo: better wash out your mind's eye first with !#s in other news
trinque: nah I meant the segue variation; we're gonna need one of those google AIs nao
scriba: Logged on 2017-07-18: [05:45:01] <mircea_popescu> gotta cut the total male-years somehow, and chem cockcage prolly even cheaper than the steel item.
shinohai: Not bad, another hot day already ... catching up on some reading, you?
deedbot: William_4042 voiced for 30 minutes.
mod6: shinohai: yeah, been hot up here. horrid lately actually.
shinohai: Ah rite, you guys are 2 hours behind me ... (Stupid DST)
shinohai: It is I, shinohai ....IM FROM TEH FUTURE1111
BingoBoingo: In other news, Trump's going to let Obamacare come to natural death and wait for new Senate after 2018 mid term. GOP primary season will now be VERY interesting.
mircea_popescu: correct play, too. he really has no interest in putting in the work to try and salvage the nonsense ; and the pantsuits will have a hell of a time arguing that "we put on the books laws that don't work because we expect they can be constantly patched as a matter of course -- and this is fine"
BingoBoingo: Also there's more entertainers expressing interest in GOP contests. Pantsuit entertainers have horrid general election track record. GOP side though... Trumpreich.
BingoBoingo: And most GOP entertainers also value their brand enough to not sink it over giving mouth hugs to mommy state.
BingoBoingo: Well, pantsuit has... Al Franken. GOP has Reagan, Sonny Bono, Etc.
BingoBoingo: No idea, twat a different time. Hard to tell from that age's dense forests.
BingoBoingo: Pantsuit McCaskill is not seeking re-election in Missouri. Governor Greitens hasn't declared candidacy yet, but appears to be campaigning.
mircea_popescu: was schwarzy republican or democrat in california ? i forget.
BingoBoingo: Well, GOP. No true Republicans get elected in the US. Not since Jefferson allegedly sired hundreds of farm implements himself.
mircea_popescu: you know, back then it was the DEMOCRAT party running the poor-but-white blacks-are-farm-implements tickets.
BingoBoingo: Switch happened in the 1950's through the 1970's. George Wallace was the last
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-18#1685822 << i'm not sure what happened. i initially misdiagnosed the issue, and lost the state necessary to figure out alternatives. i'm pretty sure though that the configuration parameters got reset (how??) and the bot was happily sitting on a random test channel
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-07-18 01:00 mircea_popescu: phf is a111 sick ?
BingoBoingo: phf: Have you tried "beefing" a111 up with some Tren? Apparently works for AWS
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform>
http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170718/#143 << they're already 'eltsining' to death , with the good old bottle, no fancy dope needed necessarily << Not really, cars are too safe nowadays. With crumple zones it is hard to die as a drunk driver and the other alcoholic deaths take time. Also many of them ain't wired right to properly drink selves to death. Somehow their brains signal "drunk enough" and then they stop, I have no
scriba: Logged on 2017-07-18: [05:45:01] <mircea_popescu> gotta cut the total male-years somehow, and chem cockcage prolly even cheaper than the steel item.
mircea_popescu: ^ word. i have seen kids drink these days. a) it's all beer and b) they think slightly buzzed = plastered.
mircea_popescu: vast majority of female teenagers who go to school that i've encountered past years have never been drunk.
phf: asciilifeform: so test chan is hard written in code, in a defvar, but there's a config (essentially a setq ...) that's supposed to override it. the config was missing (which i ~vaguely~ remember maybe accidentally doing myself). so in any case defvar should've stayed consistent no matter what. i'm not sure ~how~ it could get reset without a complete reload of an instance or an explicit setq
mircea_popescu: phf really the only important knob after such event is to be able to set "likely bug" or "likely messed with".
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ^ word. i have seen kids drink these days. a) it's all beer and b) they think slightly buzzed = plastered. << Fuckers were also sober when arriving to bar
phf: asciilifeform: nah, definitely not. there's too much state in "screen", that's been the same since forever.
phf: it's weird enough that i'm going to spin up a new btcbase instance. this would be a really weird way to mess with it (why not nuke everything, etc.) and i'm sure i could've done something carelessly a while ago, and the things only now caught up, but i'd rather not experiment further.
mircea_popescu: the "really weird way" argument is not very productive because enemy is both inept and fearful.
mircea_popescu: the problem with secrets is that the people who know where they are also know what they are.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform understand this bit of GT : the knowledge of all the things you don't know thereby constructs a sybil of you.
☟︎☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: ok, let's start small. what's the one thing the lover needs to know in order to safely visit the cheating wife ?
mircea_popescu: "in order to masquerade the husband, youthful aspirant needs knowledge of what... husband doesn't know"
mircea_popescu: what is the basis of adolescent pretense to autonomy, independence and adulthood generally ?
mircea_popescu: a keen awareness of... what their parents... don't notice.
mircea_popescu: the things you don't know, if structured, become an alt-you.
mircea_popescu: whether anyone steps into that form or not, the form IS.
mircea_popescu: that is why it is so trivially easay for me to engage/defeat random pantsuit-minded kiddo straggling in here. his darkness is obviously structured.
mircea_popescu: that's one statement as to why we dun wanna be socialist. I DON'T WANT MY ABSENCE OF MIND STRUCTURED MOTHERFUCKERS.
trinque: asciilifeform: doubtful it'd just be a111; my fail2ban.log is rather long too. and fwiw authlog appears to have fewer IPs when fail2ban's off, moar, when on.
trinque had fail2ban off for a while, and looked like there were mostly just two "chinese" IPs chewing on the box. when I re-enabled fail2ban, got moar IPs chewing, either by happenstance or one turd circumventing fail2ban.
mircea_popescu: is the intimation here that fail2ban somehow communicates to the enemy ?
trinque: just that whichever auto-ssh-chewer sybils it up when a particular IP gets banned
mircea_popescu: this is likely, actuaklly, chinese white man's computer liberation farm only forks on ban
mircea_popescu: (this btw is quite possibly actual govt project ; seeing how drastically -ev it is)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, to continue upstream : education is an effort to resolve the unknowledge-sybil problem. you take in the girl and know full well what she doesn't know, whip her, fuck her, not necessarily in this order, until she gets to the place where you don't know what she doesn't know, at which point she's an adult slave.
mircea_popescu: which strictly means that she carries an indelible if invisible brand now, ie, that you could pick her out of any number of identical body clones.
mircea_popescu: which is why it says "knowledge of what husband doesn't know".
mircea_popescu: if he knows and you think he doesn't... guess what. now he'll sybil you.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but this is the point of all art and all science -- to avoid being stupid.
mircea_popescu: precisely because such knowledge is in principle unavailable, ie, if you got fucked it's always because you stumbled.
mircea_popescu: rooster sees hen and runs towards her. hen reflexively starts running away. after a short space the hen thinks "if i stop he'll think me a slut, if i keep running he'll think me stupid... how about i stumble."
☟︎ trinque: yep, no argument here. and agree re: rented boxes being rented toilets.
trinque: anyhow the deedbot box has backups on archival dvd, deploy scripts to plop the thing onto another box, etc etc; I'm sure same goes for other infrastructure
trinque: somebody's just making sure his boss's boss knows SERIOUS WORK is being done
trinque: probably in aggregate, on some spreadsheet; i.e. X boxes were "SCANNED FOR VULNERABILITIES"
ag3nt_zer0: might anyone help me with this question? I created a paper wallet using bitaddress.org transferred to little airgapped raspberry pi... not wanting to print on my wifi capable printer, I chose to write down the numbers. Now I am wanting to get my coins the hell off coinbase before the nonsense and am concerned that my private key is legit. so, I learned that I could go back on bitaddress.org, offline of course, and click "wallet de
ag3nt_zer0: will display the correspnding pubkey... if it did this and everything matched can I take this as absolute that I am controlling and privkey will work when I want to send in 10 years?
trinque: ohey you found your passphrase eh?
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 the point of a private key is that only you know it.
ag3nt_zer0: but am i just to assume that ANY key generated is legitimate and will work when time comes?
mircea_popescu: so you know, run a proper node, make a new address there, send whatever coinbase/bitaddress/whatever held funds to it and be done.
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 you are to assume that no "generated" key is legitimate or will work reliably at any point.
ag3nt_zer0: trinque it was just !!v instead of the old !v
mircea_popescu: if this is too inconvenient/complicated/expensiuve whatever, sell your bitcoin, now, and put the fiat in a fiat bank.
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu... yes I need to do this... is it more expedient for a newb like me to attempt this on my old G5 or should I try it on another rasbpi?
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: really ought to keep up with the logs instead of doing these drive-bys
shinohai: Generating keypairs, etc on trb node has worked reliably for me 100% of time since inception
trinque: "I want to plan for my future, as expediently as possible." ?
ag3nt_zer0: trinque no just worried about getting them out at august first
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 if it doesn't take a ssd, prolly not useful for bitcoin node. otherwise i vaguely recall ppl trying the raspberry pi and blockverification taking too long
shinohai: (Especially now there is importprivkey function)
ag3nt_zer0: ok thank you all kindly for the responses
ag3nt_zer0: yes I am trying to get out by tomorrow asciilifeform
ag3nt_zer0: all I can say is thank god I found this sanctuary of the guardians heh... otherwise who knows what I would be doing with my coins right now...
floog: i converted my btc to ltc until post-aug1
floog: thought it would be safe? apparently you all disagree
trinque: asciilifeform: insufficent forebrain to override hindbrain's itch for instant gratification
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform elstards are educated from birth to value things only by reference to the herd. it is not important for them to have a great fucktoy at home ; but it is very important for them to take home the girl all the other dorks imagine would be a great accomplishment to take home.
mircea_popescu: which is why when i showed something awful the "here, you can pay people to do things to themselves" it BURNEDDDDDDD
mircea_popescu: not simply because it empowers rapist-racist-pre-trump-trump-me, annoying as that may be ; but because it puts in question the integrity of their valuation mechanism.
mircea_popescu: "maybe mp paid everyuone around me to tell me they'd be all impressed if i married the hairbrush???"
mircea_popescu: to which the only correct answer is the obvious, "of course he did lol"
mircea_popescu: so now -- why owning a ferrari is nothing, unles you can DO things with it, such as ride it around a clump of "your friends" ?
mircea_popescu: it's a strange perversion of capitalism (whereby if it's not useful it's not worth jack) into displayism (whereby if it's not being seen it's not worth having). so you gotta... DO things with your bitcoin for your bitcoin to exist (not individually, but categorically -- a store of value "does not exist" in this addled worldview.)
mircea_popescu: i do not think so. these schmucks never had any money, they're the poor generation. their parents, yes, but these are the djb street urchins not the djbs.
trinque: every idiot you pass on teh street glued to the glass rectangle is doing this. "omg, I exist, look there are notifications on the rectangle for 'me'"
trinque: well not mircea_popescu, but asciilifeform passes them
mircea_popescu: trinque hey, you have no idea. so sunday was large celebration, including parade with literal 1k horses. the people ON the horses ?
mircea_popescu: yep, you guessed it, at least a quarter of the riders were taping away at any point.
mircea_popescu: this with the horse underneath! which you know, needs your attention.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform notrly. horse is very loving, welcoming, girlfriend like animal. it's going to help you in whatever way it can / you need.
mircea_popescu: and in general you know, "i'm not interested in LOOKING at the horses, but where could i snap a selfie from ?"
mircea_popescu: but the truly mindboggling thing, to me, was that they were all fine riders. somehow. i do not know how. feet correctly in the saddle, not one, all, the men, children, women, etc. proper grips on at least half the reins. and so on.
mircea_popescu: see, cuz if they looked like "u of maryland goes on horseback", half the schmucks seated backwards or whatnot, then it'd make sense. but how did these people manage to acquire riding skills with the constant tapdistraction ?
ag3nt_zer0: asciilifeform... I just mean there is a lot of noise and this place seems to be the clear signal... and I say "seems" simply because I don't understand it as well as I would need to dispose of that qualifier
a111: Logged on 2017-05-15 15:38 mircea_popescu: there is no possiblity of meaning outside of a structure of authority, and the authority can not be predicated on the meaning.
trinque: mircea_popescu: I did see a rather long line at the McD's in San Jose when there
shinohai: ag3nt_zer0: One needs to keep the antenna locked to receive the clear signal!
ag3nt_zer0: asciilifeform: for instance, I may have traded my coins for doge or whateva
mircea_popescu: o yeah, for some reason they think us stuff is great. my elite grocer, that stocks everything including fine french wines ? they think HORMEL is the best brand of cured meats.
mircea_popescu: it's so disconcerting, pate de foie, hormel crap, greek olives, line-up. wtf.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-23 17:06 asciilifeform: not long ago i saw a photo of some american mega-rich d00d, forget who, and nobody cares, his refrigerator, was full of synthetic 'budveiser' beer
deedbot: user705 voiced for 30 minutes.
trinque: asciilifeform: no, lol, it was not american expats at the San Jose mcdonalds.
trinque: possibly not. perhaps the monkeybrain prefers insane authority to none.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of naught in particular, isn't it shocking there's no pornstar named "natasha kinksky" ?
trinque: now there's a perverse state in which to be trapped; relying on the other's insanity to preserve the delusion of one's own sanity.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i believe it's beause they very literallty and genuinely think the us crap is good.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-17 23:44 mircea_popescu: you know, if it seems a good next step then it likely is.
mircea_popescu: hormel prolly status symbol. i have record of "eating at mcdo every sunday" being top of list of old woman trying to sell convenience marriagfe to her poetic daughter.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform trip does not cure ; know plenty of girlies who studied "criminalisticologies" in us, came back laden with debt, trying to GET BACK.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: which is hysterical on its face. you... had to leave... because... it ... didn't suck ?!
floog: mircea_popescu write V implementation??
mircea_popescu: or stand up a log bot, or whatever. run a trb node. run the ada implementation passed around recently of a big number calculator and produce 655356! to compare with the given values.
mircea_popescu: get a fg, run tests on it, report results, what have you.
mircea_popescu: trinque that perverse state is called borderline personality disorder ; aka wrist sleeves. they generally end up playing enabler to all sorta nutty males.
user705: is there a way to do a trb node not on Linux?
☟︎ lobbes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-18#1686119 << This was exactly my case. I have same appreciation towards folx here as ag3nt_zer0. I bought first btc at $20 for purposes of silk road back in early 2014. Price quickly shot up. Found tardstalk 'securities'. I thought "Wow, pretty graphs and charts. Lemme try and catch the next boat11!"
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-07-18 19:29 trinque: asciilifeform: insufficent forebrain to override hindbrain's itch for instant gratification
lobbes: Then I started reading the "trolls", then finally was lead here (I think it was pankkake that tipped me off). Then, it hit me like a "shit-ton of bricks (tm)": I'm retarded! The herd is retarded! I better stop, listen, learn from these evidently superior beings before I'm toast.
shinohai: Sure, the foundation has trb.exe available on website
shinohai: How long befire the BTC phork crowd says "WE SHOULD TOTALLY DO THIS!!!!!"
mircea_popescu: zooko lol. dude's been a cock puppet since what, day 1?
user705: how would one define "idle"
user705: oh mike hearn had that bright idea a while ago
shinohai: Seems zooko also started a new scam coin ... Imma hafta come out of retirement for these lulz
mircea_popescu: hey, ustards perceive "they got names", and gotta burn 'em to cash in. it's the way of progress!
trinque: user705: weird how different people all seem to push in the same direction eh?
trinque: must be wisdom of the crowd or something
mircea_popescu: user705 inasmuch as it's not an idea, yeah. they all have the same ideas, being the same item.
user705: if ever there was a great price entry point is when people like them quit BTC
mircea_popescu: stop talking about it ? won't happen. stop being meaningfully involved ? they never were. which of 0, infinity was your notion ?
user705: in his case "quit" was he sold it all or so he said and who knows how much "all" really was
mircea_popescu: all the usg experts, from gavin down, were from the get-go paid in fiat to see what they can do to further fiat interest in the republic ; no more.
mircea_popescu: that vesseness could run his scam foundation a little longer by pretending to take donations "for paying gavin's salary" was simply an expedient cover-up. gavin was getting a nsa salary anyway. to pretend like "btc donations" from suckers paid for it was cheap enough a cover-up.
mircea_popescu: this is how teh usg does things, and always has. it takes a special sort of idiot to actually buy into their web of nonsense
mircea_popescu: but thart's ok, as they actually breed the requisite sort of idiot themselves.
shinohai: The same lie Bruce Fenton tried to sell when attempting to resurrect it
mircea_popescu: and why not. if it works it works so they get a little more juice, and if it doesn't work... not like anyone's going to jail.
mircea_popescu: by the time they';re going to jail everyone is anyway, so, they are correctly judging -- better hang for the sheep along with the calf, we're all dead men anyway.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-18 20:01 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform trip does not cure ; know plenty of girlies who studied "criminalisticologies" in us, came back laden with debt, trying to GET BACK.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the place caters very well to the lazy vanity of the inept.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-18 20:11 user705: is there a way to do a trb node not on Linux?
floog: asciilifeform schneier's applied cryptography 1st edition
mircea_popescu: they "have rights" which is to say, debt peonage is never going to be the south east asian brothel bed, or the debtor's prison, or marylebone workhouse.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: rather than put up with their manifest insufficiency and social inferiority at home, they find it preferable to go be "equal" to "everyone" in dumblandia.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he's ordered the early cycle schneier book, what.
floog: is 1st edition censored?
floog: so, is vanstone > schneier?
floog: basically, i realized that i suck, and i want to suck less. so i plan to read schneier per ben_vulpes' blog post's recommendation. but maybe i should read vanstone instead?
floog: # of hours in the day
a111: Logged on 2017-07-18 20:41 mircea_popescu: they "have rights" which is to say, debt peonage is never going to be the south east asian brothel bed, or the debtor's prison, or marylebone workhouse.
mircea_popescu: besides, she figures if she were to inherit shje'\d just run back home.
mircea_popescu: under discussion was orc girl of no particular qualities aspiring to criminogogology degree from us.
mircea_popescu: no. girl from here, goes there, gets "degree", HAS TO COME BACK
mircea_popescu: somehow this is !== "degree sucks" in her head, wants to go back for another spin.
mircea_popescu: this is how they get pregnant, normally, but the usg has managed to turn that innate female idiocy into actual demographic aggregator for it.
mircea_popescu: "costs nothing" and "love her". after a fashion, both of these.
whaack: what's the point of learning crypto for plebians, the concepts are too hard to follow. there are so many traps in number theory, and the argument to believe that using a scheme like RSA is secure requires understanding so many lemmas. It's so easy to make a false proof, how can one not believe they're not being duped (intentionally or unintentionally) along the way to enlightenment. The one time pad is really the only thing I trust to t
mircea_popescu: the point of learning is learning, not immediate productivity.
whaack: so it's just for the pleasure of learning?
trinque: eating a bullet would put an end to all this fretful uncertainty!
trinque: of course what if it doesn't fire
mircea_popescu: well, whole point would be if the ugly fat kid would get the whole world to love him. but, fail that, picking and choosing which other's private keys can do what when will have to do as a substitute.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to revisit whaack 's earlier lament : never trust the man who says "don't worry your pretty head, sweet" unless you're quite meaning to be whored out ; because meaning or not, it's gonna happen.
whaack: i'm not advocating one doesn't make an effort to learn, I'm just pointing out that the material covered does not "fit in head" (as alf puts it) very easily and thus the main thing gotten from that book, for me at least, is the deep complexity involved with some of these schemes
trinque: loving mother nature says get a bigger head, or die
mircea_popescu: what fits in head depends also on the structuring of the head.
mircea_popescu: which you know, occurs through contact with complexity and labour upon it.
mircea_popescu: for instance : alf gets so livid when certain classes of events occur because they contradict assumptions he's made upon which he built the particular head-fitter he uses. they'd better hold, or else the whole thing is in danger. specifically : a lot less could be fit in head.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the discussion as to height of towers and men in prison is apropos.
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whaack: aha yes the blockcipher schemes always seem to be security-by-obfuscation
a111: Logged on 2017-07-18 22:41 mircea_popescu: for instance : alf gets so livid when certain classes of events occur because they contradict assumptions he's made upon which he built the particular head-fitter he uses. they'd better hold, or else the whole thing is in danger. specifically : a lot less could be fit in head.
mircea_popescu: "oh, enigma machine sucked, surely if we used computer to emulate one WILL BE SO MUCH BETTER"
mircea_popescu: arguably not as well made, either. the original had a lot of "boxes" and shit.
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz, best handle for masochistic subbie on bdsm site ?
ben_vulpes: in other toxic masculinity news, one of the guys i share the office with brought a set of olympic weights in