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douchebag: !#s $(id)
a111: 0 results for "$(id)", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=$%28id%29
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1792659 << fixed☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 19:51 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo mind redirecting www to . sometime too ?
douchebag: !#help
douchebag: !#h
douchebag: !A 'help
pehbot: douchebag: EGGOG: Pos: 0: Stack Underflow!
douchebag: !A ''help
pehbot: douchebag: EGGOG: Pos: 0: Stack Underflow!
douchebag: !A help
pehbot: douchebag: I am PehBot. See also http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2051 . My Width is currently fixed to 256 and Height to 32.
trinque: any chance this can be done in pm asciilifeform ?
mod6: ^
trinque: before someone gets cranky?
douchebag: I agree
mod6: to late
asciilifeform: trinque: not as such. BUT he really oughta build the proggy and do in his own shell.
trinque: there ya go.
douchebag: kk
douchebag: can I try one last command really quick?
asciilifeform: sure?
douchebag: !#s \r\nTEST
a111: 0 results for "\\r\\nTEST", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%5Cr%5CnTEST
douchebag: Good job stripping them !
asciilifeform: actually, douchebag , it does no such thing
asciilifeform: well, pehbot that is
douchebag: I was talking about a111
asciilifeform: aa
douchebag: If those lines weren't stripped I could potentially send my own commands to the ircd
asciilifeform: i've temporarily moved it to #asciilifeform-test, douchebag , justforyou !
douchebag: thx <3
asciilifeform: plz join.
phf: which reminds me that i should implement the help feature, a111 is no conformant at the moment
phf: douchebag: a111 logs, speaks logs, responds to #!s #!seen #!seenbefore #!born and #!vulpes
phf: of which only #!s and #!seen are useful, and #!born mildly interesting
phf: #!born douchebag
phf: !#born douchebag
a111: 2018-01-11 <douchebag> douchebag
a111: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-11#1768869
douchebag: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#$(id)
phf: well, since we're testing things http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1231231231231
douchebag: phf: What sort of topics do you primarily focus on?
douchebag: In regards to programming/security/technology ect..
phf: it really depends on when
phf: but relevant to the conversation, i grew up in russia in the 90s, so i did infosec until 2005 or so
phf: there might be an xss somewhere in btcbase, but highly unlikely
phf: i did several talks on the idea that sanitizing data is retarded, and that you're supposed to have a proper parsing strategy instead. that it's in other words an impedance mismatch problem, and if you teach computer your assumptions it will be impossible to have injection issues
phf: so cl-irc isn't "stripping away" faulty sequences, there's a state machine parser there that only accepts a valid irc protocol, likewise the renderer is not escaping html, instead the dom is constructed server side and where you have strings, you can only have strings. they will be serialized into html according to html escaping rules.
asciilifeform: phf: i was vaguely hoping he might grasp this by playing with pehbot / reading ffa ; but loox like no dice so far
asciilifeform: going by the log in #asciilifeform-test, d00d 1) still refuses to actually read the proggy 2) continues to think that it remaining standing has something at all to do with 'sanitizing' or anticipating whatever attack
douchebag: I've never programmed in the language it was written in
douchebag: So it makes it a bit difficult
asciilifeform: being one of the few languages with actual docs, and of which i used a deliberately small subset -- oughta be pretty simple.
asciilifeform: ( oop for instance is not used. nor is heap allocation . )
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in sads, RK3328 ( and in fact every arm cpu in production ) won't boot without a ~1MB evil blob (that in fact runs on dedicated evil-core, just like intel's ME . ) so much for 'published errything.'
asciilifeform: and, interestingly, the entire public net appears to be EMPTY of ANY discussion of a cure.
lobbes: so, this is kind of like the "default-deny" philosophy? "you may only build the house from this valid list of materials" versus "grab any material you can find, but watch out for this list of lethal building materials"? >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-04#1792809☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-04 00:35 phf: i did several talks on the idea that sanitizing data is retarded, and that you're supposed to have a proper parsing strategy instead. that it's in other words an impedance mismatch problem, and if you teach computer your assumptions it will be impossible to have injection issues
trinque: the grammar asserts what ought to be there; it rejects everything else, but it didn't reject the "all else" item by item.
lobbes: hm yeah, applying this to my case: there is only ONE point where user-entered data enters into the process, and that is where the bot snarfs from the chan and inserts into the first sqlite3 db. So really, I just need to teach THAT part of my process what a valid url is, and then parse accordingly
trinque: parser implements a given grammar, turning a string (whether considered as text or raw bits) into an abstract syntax tree
lobbes: hm okay, this is a bit over my head, but you are saying that I need to understand what the grammar for a url is, and then have the parser follow that grammar?
douchebag: lobbes: Why not completely avoid sending any user input to a bash interpreter at all?
lobbes: well, it seems like phf's (and others') approach is slightly saner. Even if user input doesn't go to bash, well.. what about the phantomjs exploit you found
lobbes: I cannot possibly enumerate what I haven't thought of
lobbes: but I CAN enumerate a valid url
trinque: sure douchebag, not saying do that either
lobbes: yeah, true, I really should do both
lobbes: there's also an additional precaution I could take: instead of the thing being on an hourly cronjob, I could easily set up a quick 'validation report' for myself and then pull a 'manual' crank to initiate everything
lobbes: ala deedbot and other items
asciilifeform: hey trinque , i was attempting a gentoo , and found that i cannot even extract a 2016 stage3 on a sane box because --xattrs-include='*.*' and my tar has nfi what xattrs are
asciilifeform: trinque: any idea when this liquishit crept in ?
asciilifeform: what's the most recent stage3 that hasn't got it ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1792728 << yes, actually. x could not be y, but opt to not-not be y. is this bad ?☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 23:41 phf: mircea_popescu: "Unlike obligate coprophagiacs, subsistence hunters could not be stone age fucktards, but for whatever reason opt not to." is there a double not in there?
asciilifeform: incidentally trinque do you know of a musltronic stage3 for arm ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1792736 << it's not that big. but, if indeed it is that big this is a reason to find more storage space, can't really cut them off.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 23:48 lobbes: I agree this needs archiving (I'm currently working off their version of kritik der reinen vernunft as a german study aid). However, unlike kibo.com I would wager the entirety of gutenberg is much much larger. I'd prolly need moar storage than the ~200gb ssd on the dedicated home craptop I'm currently using (but maybe not) >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1792648
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1792743 << bwahaha wut.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 23:53 douchebag: and I'll tell you why, when working for a company doing a security audit - you will get paid the most for RCE. Women love money, and that money can be used to help take care of the children
mircea_popescu: !!up candi_lustt
deedbot: candi_lustt voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: ^ there douchebag , now you can learn lips.
mircea_popescu: and in other "best villains of the silver screen", https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N9LnkKQfuc
mircea_popescu: #!born douchebag
mircea_popescu: !#born phf
a111: 2014-03-20 <phf> not quite
a111: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-03-20#570859
mircea_popescu: phf it's supposed to produce no more than one line per command.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-04#1792811 << this is not something that can be "grasped" as such.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-04 00:46 asciilifeform: phf: i was vaguely hoping he might grasp this by playing with pehbot / reading ffa ; but loox like no dice so far
mircea_popescu: much in the vein astronomy can not be grasped playing with ptolemaic spheres.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-04#1792809 << links ? hm ? HM ?☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-04 00:35 phf: i did several talks on the idea that sanitizing data is retarded, and that you're supposed to have a proper parsing strategy instead. that it's in other words an impedance mismatch problem, and if you teach computer your assumptions it will be impossible to have injection issues
mircea_popescu: i mean my talk to ro politicians about basic economics from like 2005 is on the fucking web ffs!
mircea_popescu: and the time i burned the koran/bible and the time i stabbed that rabbit and so following.
asciilifeform actually watches the 2005 one , it was lulzy
asciilifeform: *watched
mircea_popescu: dja understand what it says ?
asciilifeform: at the time understood maybe half . really oughta rewatch these days
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2009/banii-oamenii-si-valorile-liberale/ << uncharacteristically for vloggers, transcript is available.
asciilifeform: oh hah.
asciilifeform: this almost takes out all the sport tho.
mircea_popescu: myeah.
mircea_popescu: incidentrally, the comments are something else.
asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/LsmJG/?raw=true << d00d's total effort in re pehbot , thus far.
mircea_popescu: im sure he'll say something if he finds something neh
asciilifeform: doesn't show any symptoms of approaching the thing in any way other than http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-01#1460013☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-01 14:53 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> mod6: the baked-in presumption of webtardism is almost insulting << it is insulting, not to us though. think about it : the crab has pincers because in its environment THAT WORKS ; and so does "GET /blog/blog-config.php~".
mircea_popescu: eh, what;'s the rush.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-04#1792817 << fuck 'em. let them sell to each other for bitpaybux until they fall over for all i care.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-04 01:06 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in sads, RK3328 ( and in fact every arm cpu in production ) won't boot without a ~1MB evil blob (that in fact runs on dedicated evil-core, just like intel's ME . ) so much for 'published errything.'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-04#1792818 << the english web is empty of EVERYTHING. there isn't anything there. i looked.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-04 01:06 asciilifeform: and, interestingly, the entire public net appears to be EMPTY of ANY discussion of a cure.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's chinese, therefore lulzy. mine seems to boot up with the shitrom broken...
mircea_popescu: yes but it probably doesn't have $random-useless-feature!!1
asciilifeform: boots -- believe or not -- a gentoo.
asciilifeform: as of 5min ago.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-04#1792831 << this is the worst choice, in general.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-04 02:19 lobbes: there's also an additional precaution I could take: instead of the thing being on an hourly cronjob, I could easily set up a quick 'validation report' for myself and then pull a 'manual' crank to initiate everything
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-04#1792834 << ext4☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-04 02:30 asciilifeform: trinque: any idea when this liquishit crept in ?
mircea_popescu: fwiw, iirc reiserfs has them too.
asciilifeform: it's in tar.
asciilifeform: from 1.27 and up.
asciilifeform: q for trinque was , when did gentoo stage3 start using this 'feature'.
mircea_popescu: probably once they started supporting ext4.
mircea_popescu: anyway, odds are you can just take it out.
asciilifeform: nope. $box supports ext4 , but tar 1.26.
mircea_popescu: just drop the flag, see what happens.
asciilifeform: and i untarred in spite of this oddity, and the only barf was that python, ping, and cc1 binaries failed to extract. but oddly enuff extracted later manually...
asciilifeform: and appear to work
mircea_popescu: anyway. extended attributes is this ~dead standard that got implemented anyway, basically a kludgy extension of chown.
asciilifeform did realize this
mircea_popescu: the flag tells tar whether to store this extra metadata with the files or not. generally droppoing it has no effect. ah ok then
trinque couldn't say, haven't tilted at tar just yet
mircea_popescu: "password length can not exceed 12 characters". teh webfolk clearly doing it rite.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/no-such-labs-snsa-march-2018-statement/ << Trilema - No Such lAbs (S.NSA), March 2018 Statement
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ^ lemme know if i left anything out.
mircea_popescu: in other world wide webs, "* Topic for #gaygeeks is: Welcome to #gaygeeks, a PG-rated social channel for geeky LGBT people and friends."
douchebag: I just jacked one of T-Mobiles sub domains
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZ3k2jxWkAAFhx9.jpg << hacks. HACKS, you understand. because "women in tech" => "fucking around with your phone on facebook is now hacking".
mircea_popescu: and oh look, anil dash still exists. in fact, the whole twitter "tech" poser scene is still there! amazing.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, /me joins #lesswrong. there's a "* Loaded log from Sat Sep 20 11:53:02 2014" ; then /me joins #startups. there's a "Loaded log from Sat Sep 20 11:52:17 2014". apparently... i did this once before ?
lobbes: not sure if pete_dushenski is ever coming around again or what, so I went ahead and created a page for the tsmr bot directory: http://lobbesblog.com/static/tmsr_bot_directory.html
lobbes: I purposely decided not to curate the actual commands. I figure that is best left to the operator to maintain
mircea_popescu: what do you mean curate ?
lobbes: like "x bot has added n commands, plox to update directory"
lobbes: as it stood, my own bot's commands on the old directory weren't even represented accurately. plus the spec does specify each bot should have a "help" command listing all other commands
mircea_popescu: ah so basically you didn't ~include~ the command list.
lobbes: yeah, sorry, I was kinda unclear; just lists the bot name, operator, and call command
mircea_popescu: kk
mircea_popescu: aaand closing channels. #lesswrong is spectacularily retarded. i mean wikitardia levels of inane wank. #clojure and #bash are mostly dead, 99% join/part and the rest hi guise, i got a dumb question. startup and gaygeeks are dead.
mircea_popescu: i suspect the internet was actually LARGER in 1988.
mircea_popescu: shrunk like 60% in 30 years.
trinque: !!v 6436E4C2DF0E7C877AC3A106A02C8A85D1E400F8C36F42025D4986BA5F02D825
deedbot: Invoiced ben_vulpes 0.21483957 << server purchase
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/04/second-chinese-tariff-announcement-this-week-hits-us-soybeans-with-25-levy/ << Qntra - Second Chinese Tariff Announcement This Week Hits US Soybeans With 25% Levy
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/04/workplace-violence-hits-youtube-disgruntled-content-creator-shoots-coworkers-and-kills-self/ << Qntra - Workplace Violence Hits Youtube: Disgruntled Content Creator Shoots Coworkers And Kills Self
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/04/usg-alleges-rogue-cellular-site-simulators-in-capitol-region/ << Qntra - USG Alleges "Rogue" Cellular Site Simulators In Capitol Region
BingoBoingo: https://www.rt.com/sport/423161-commonwealth-games-england-african-country/ << "Commonwealth Games organizers have confused England with the African Republic of The Gambia in the event’s official program, which contains information about the 71 nations participating."
lobbes: Lol. Rest of the world catching up to Qntra's accurate classifications of various Anglotardistans
BingoBoingo: Gotta start somewhere.
mircea_popescu: aaand in other http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1792405 : cat trilema.com.txt | grep "/2009/banii-oamenii-si-valorile-liberale/" | grep "leusercontent" > http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/foK6J/?raw=true☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 17:26 asciilifeform: y'know it's still 'read' if you put it through meatgrinder
mircea_popescu: 2.7k lines between 8 and 10 this am, that's like... more interest in the ro language than the romanian government ever managed to generate in the entire history of a romanian government, spanning 1866-2018
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in local news bulletin : took slut out shopping yest, bought her a mostly see through and very ass-flattering dress at a shop which identifies itself as : "Punt. San Jose, centro al frente de la puerta principal del Colegio de Senoritas."
mircea_popescu: punt indeed. punters beware.
asciilifeform: ohai mircea_popescu !
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-04#1792901 << loox proper☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-04 04:32 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ^ lemme know if i left anything out.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/moron/ << Trilema - Moron
mircea_popescu: hola!
asciilifeform: meanwhile on the chinesium front, asciilifeform was pretty close to throwing out the 'rockchip' this morn., when saw that every few hrs it read-retries the sd flash. but apparently harmless eggog: comes from certain sad levelling firmwares , they cannot keep up with the host
asciilifeform: but aside from this, 'throw out, or buy five more?', i have a self-rebuilding gentoo, and theoretically recent 'uboot' gives a blobless boot and ergo 100% blobless machine that actually fucking builds own kernel and gcc and etc etc
mircea_popescu: ahhh
mircea_popescu: to quote from the everlogs, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-23#1789029☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-03-23 04:14 douchebag: Okay, why do you guys liek arguing so much? Is this why you guys don't get anything done?
asciilifeform: bahahaha
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-04#1792907 << >> http://trilema.com/2014/the-irc-world-is-a-big-but-very-flat-place☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-04 04:49 mircea_popescu: in other lulz, /me joins #lesswrong. there's a "* Loaded log from Sat Sep 20 11:53:02 2014" ; then /me joins #startups. there's a "Loaded log from Sat Sep 20 11:52:17 2014". apparently... i did this once before ?
mircea_popescu: a yeah!
mircea_popescu: well... nothing changed in four years.
asciilifeform: was it ~100% join/partolade by volume?
mircea_popescu: to be specific : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/rnjFD/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, the moneyshot is, "I'm going to need a source on that. the doctor dude seems to know what he's doing. also the ballistic gelatin is kinda hard to argue against"
asciilifeform: 'navigating-and-or-avoiding-the-inpatient-mental-health-system' << already 'winning' in chan subjline !
mircea_popescu: the gist of the argument is, them : wank wank wank ; me : your wank is only meaningful self-referentially ; them : you are wrong because self-reference.
asciilifeform: this is livelier than asciilifeform expected
mircea_popescu: i guess. fucktards dun know how to separate eggs. pro tip : TAKE IT IN YOUR HAND. omfg, basic slavegirl kitchen training.
asciilifeform: lol, small arms wank! where are the planet-eaters, the solar shade weapon specialists, the immortality pills?!11
asciilifeform: where did they hide the trooo lesswrongists.
mircea_popescu: se ?
mircea_popescu: see* ?
asciilifeform: possibly the truly prolific crackpots began to have problem navigating-and-or-avoiding-the-inpatient-mental-health-system(tm)(r) and left these...
mircea_popescu: either that or the ever growing self-absorption of esl speakers has... well.. absorbed.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, that "'navigating-and-or-avoiding-the-inpatient-mental-health-system" is about as fucking terrible as haskellists code.
mircea_popescu: it's fundamentally wrong, ideologically offensive, practically useless at best and counterproductive in general, deeply myopic, utterly nonsensical and the list could go on. holy shit why even bother exist if you're going to be the guy that spewed it.
asciilifeform confesses : did not read
asciilifeform reports, however, that the archaetypical emerge -av --update --deep @world on chinesiumtron , to the tune of 117 various packages, took ~4hr. which is, lulzily, approx the same as on my workstations
asciilifeform: with -j5 in make.conf (i.e. 100% cpu utilization) ; but heatsink not even warm
asciilifeform: note, this beast has a video jack, could in principle be used as gentooistic workstation.
asciilifeform: ... thing built with my USE flags, incl. ban on gcc >=5 ( i used a stage3 tarball from 2016 deliberately , but with current-day portage snapshot ) -- no serious barf
mircea_popescu: notbad
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-4-4#325784 << wow this is a veritable 4000-class locomotive☝︎
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-04 20:20 mircea_popescu: it's fundamentally wrong, ideologically offensive, practically useless at best and counterproductive in general, deeply myopic, utterly nonsensical and the list could go on. holy shit why even bother exist if you're going to be the guy that spewed it.
asciilifeform: !!up BigTexasBingo
deedbot: BigTexasBingo voiced for 30 minutes.
BigTexasBingo: Network connectivity at the Cowork is down for predictably latino reasons.
BigTexasBingo: Here to actively listen.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes ikr
BigTexasBingo: And eat pizza con morons
BigTexasBingo: *morones
mircea_popescu: hehe
mircea_popescu: anyway, since we're reading "slate star codex", ie scott alexander's blog (the pantsuit-annointed official tlp replacement so tlp never actually happened), let's lul together : https://archive.is/Yyblu#selection-1259.852-1259.1460
mircea_popescu: "So Peterson wants to ensure we don’t get to the point where that’s the only choice left; he advises his acolytes not to destroy society (which leads to the chaos/authoritarian dilemma), but to recognize that they’re going to choose to follow some order of some kind, and that they should therefore intentionally follow even a flawed societal order, because it’s better than gas chambers and ethnic cleansing. The reality
mircea_popescu: that “bad things happen to good people” shouldn’t persuade them to tear down society and try starting all over again, because that leads to the chaos/tyrant choice, and we can’t go there."
mircea_popescu: ie, "we [the fried chicken niggers] don't want to go there". ofcourseyoudon't.
mircea_popescu: whole pile is actually a lot of wank in the general vein of, "r jwz, how to survive the coming of mp"
douchebag: Well they already patched my Subdomain Takeover vuln
douchebag: 15 minutes for $1,000 rewards - pretty decent imo
mircea_popescu: douchebag did you manage to do anything fun with it in the interim ?
douchebag: I found out that cookies were being scoped from parent domain to subdomains
douchebag: so technically, 1 link click on a legit domain = account pwned
mircea_popescu: not bad.
douchebag: Yeah, this is the main reason I focus on web application stuff
douchebag: People fuck up, and I'm really good and pointing out those fuck ups
douchebag: and chaining multiple fuck ups together to make a super serious fuck up
douchebag: I think most web application developers have the mental capacity of a monkey with autism
mircea_popescu: everyone involved in "technology", especially if the only language they speak is english and even more especially if their general philosophy is in the "I think medical science is still pretty healthy, and that the consensus of doctors and researchers is more-or-less right on most controversial medical issues." vein of above-illustrated jwzism are strictly speaking subhuman, and a great and needless burden to the planet.
mircea_popescu: that's what you get for "getting more people involved" in things.
douchebag: mircea_popescu: To be honest with you, I got into web application hacking just to pwn websites of nerds for lulz
mircea_popescu: i imagined.
douchebag: and eventually I got good enough where I could pop boxes of multi-billion dollar organizations
douchebag: and they pay me for it
mircea_popescu: why do they pay you ?
douchebag: Because they would rather pay me $2k to tell them how I could have dumped their database
douchebag: than for their database to be dumped and lose a shit ton of money & bad press coverage
mircea_popescu: so they "pay" you in the sense of giving you nothing as far as they concerned to get in exchange the very valuable (as far as they're concerned) option to continue exactly as before ?
douchebag: Eh
douchebag: For me I am making alright money for the position I am in
mircea_popescu: now you understand how their shit got written.
douchebag: It's a lot easier for me to get paid directly by them
douchebag: than to go the blackhat route
mircea_popescu: yes dude. the failure of postmodern "democracy" is built out of the mass involvement of idiots who have no business outside of chained-in-dungeon, coupled with weak non-payments to pacify the elite and the self-seeking, comfort driven behaviours of everyone.
douchebag: I don't really like dealing with the blackhat crowd either
douchebag: A lot of them are incredibly stupid
mircea_popescu: of course not.
douchebag: mircea_popescu: BigTexasBingo is asking me in pm for an up
douchebag: idk this person
mircea_popescu: !!up BigTexasBingo
deedbot: BigTexasBingo voiced for 30 minutes.
BigTexasBingo: I don't have civilized desk internet at the moment. Douchebag the goldmine is in burning the god damned colored hats.
mircea_popescu: douchebag anyway, i'm not saying the options you're taking aren't on the table. they are. i am however saying that the table won't last ; which of course is about as interesting in the direct as telling a brontosaurus happily chewing on a fern that a meteoir's coming. "so... what does this mean ~TO ME~, should i switch to chewing palms ?"
mircea_popescu: meteors mean nothing to dinosaurs.
BigTexasBingo: Also in weev land https://dailystormer.name/we-won-but-you-still-need-to-call-the-white-house-today/ can you do it?
douchebag: mircea_popescu: Yeah, it's just a hobby man
mircea_popescu: but as the elite increasingly opts out of supporting the "shiny happy faces of drooling imbeciles" modern of postmodern democracy, the thing will fall. it can't support itself, the only way it can live is for as long as you're willing to take $1k in lieu of "tell you what, I OWN tmobile now, you can all go home / hit the unemployment lines"
douchebag: Hacking stuff is a form of entertainment for me
mircea_popescu: hey. ruining the possibility of pantsuit continuance is entertainment to me.
douchebag: I don't play videogames, hacking stuff is much more entertaining than that
douchebag: and I sure as fuck don't get paid to play video games
mircea_popescu: you could, if you were a "tester". or an "influencer". or whatever.
BigTexasBingo: Douchebag have you tried slaying Incas... In bed
mircea_popescu: the ammounts of money involved in all this are so trivial as to not meet the bar for being called money.
ben_vulpes: so let me get this straight BigTexasBingo the daily derper can't rely on its people to catch up to new ip addresses but it can get the word of mouth out on new dns records?
douchebag: mircea_popescu: I make $700/week from my current job
douchebag: I make anywhere between $1k-20k/month doing my web app pentesting
mircea_popescu: douchebag as things currently stand, if it's fiats and it's not in the billions you're wasting your time.
mircea_popescu: think about it for a second, it's dubious if there are one thousand human beings alive today. the total monetary mass is well past the trillion mark.
BigTexasBingo: Ben_vulpes lowest effort cultures but their story in this case seems to check out.
mircea_popescu: anything less than the billion dollars is the sound of you getting shortchanged.
douchebag: mircea_popescu: Everyone's got to start somewhere, and anyone who knows me knows very well that I am one of the most strong willed people you'll ever meet
mircea_popescu: BigTexasBingo i don't want to read that, can there be a one line summary ?
douchebag: mircea_popescu: I would love to make a billion dollars
douchebag: I've been talking to a few investors in regards to InfoSec
mircea_popescu: douchebag well, from experience you won't make it supporting the system ; but burning it down.
douchebag: Between a few people, I have $3.5million that investors are willing to invest
BigTexasBingo: mircea_popescu Anglin and weev bullied Mexico into taking Honduran refugees
mircea_popescu: BigTexasBingo according to mexico ? or the honduran refugees ?
douchebag: and I have a team of people who are extremely skilled
mircea_popescu: douchebag do you know who ers is/was ?
douchebag: no I do not
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-09-07#1265178 << he did the exact same thing, except back when he also had the excuse of "all this being new" and "you don't know how it will go"☝︎
a111: Logged on 2015-09-07 12:55 punkman: then http://news.slashdot.org/story/99/12/10/0821224/esr-writes-on-surprised-by-wealth >> and now http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6835
douchebag: what do you mean same exact thing?
mircea_popescu: just that. same exact thing.
douchebag: same exact thing as what?
mircea_popescu: "I would love to make a billion dollars ; Between a few people, I have $3.5million that investors are willing to invest ; and I have a team of people who are extremely skilled"
douchebag: So what do you suppose we do?
mircea_popescu: try to leverage technology to convince the political power to give you some decidous leaves inscribed with flattering but ultimately hollow words such as "glory forever!" which will stick around for a season before turning to dust.
mircea_popescu: basically, you're engaging in the up to date equivalent of the athenian poetry competition.
BigTexasBingo: (+mircea_popescu) BigTexasBingo according to mexico ? or the honduran refugees ? << According to developing trumpism and Mexico
mircea_popescu: (no, ustards didn't invent pop culture. britny hilton existed 500 bc, fo sho.)
mircea_popescu: BigTexasBingo link where trump says anglin did something ?!
douchebag: mircea_popescu: Some of the people I have on my stoppped terrorism via hacking
mircea_popescu: douchebag as above : according to whom, "the terrorists" ?
douchebag: Muslims plotting terrorists attacks
mircea_popescu: anyway. some of the classical atenian poets stopped the rain. heck, one even sang his way into hell. he didn't actually accomplish anything down there, but he ALMOST did.
douchebag: IE: Reverse engineering enemy weaponry
mircea_popescu: "that should count for something"
douchebag: SCADA hacking
douchebag: ect..
BigTexasBingo: Mircea_popescu chance of posturing. Requires more digging. Possibly lulz blooming in the coming weeks, but likely no less than 10 days
douchebag: Cyber Warfare is a real deal, and it's going to continue getting more serious
mircea_popescu: douchebag have you perchance read http://trilema.com/2016/to-be-clear-hillary-clinton-lost-the-presidential-election-on-june-16th-2016/ ? because you might be selling cabbage to the gardners.
mircea_popescu: in simple terms, the terrorists long ago won all possible battles. they're just not who you thought would be the terrorists.
mircea_popescu: aaaanyway, my original curio in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-31#1791647 is very much resolved. take the scott alexander fellow from above : he's been around for long enough, writes frequently enough, meets all the other criteria implied in the request. he's very VERBOSE too, and utterly fucking unreadable.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-03-31 16:40 mircea_popescu: i would really like a list of "all personal blogs older than a decade" right about now.
mircea_popescu: i managed to get to point X of his ENDLESS "i can tolerate anything except the outgroup" "recommended article", after going through another two or three items placed higher on his list of self-recommendations ; but eventually my patience was exhausted.
mircea_popescu: he's not technically on the level of the literate-since-yesterday redditard, but he's very much on the level right above that -- zero intellectual curiosity (in spite of a lot of meta herp derping about it), absolutely no critical ability whatsoever, a complete inadherence to humor, metaphore, rhetorical device, subtext, any sign of an intellectual life whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: he reads to me like someone on antipsychotic medication. maybe at some point in his youth he was intelligent, i guess, but by now i'd much rather listen to the barristas. at least they giggle.