phf: lobbes: same for me, i don't have the right machine to eulora. i tried rebuilding my mac homebrew version recently and it's all kinds of broken since the update a year or so ago
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-04-17 15:01 mircea_popescu: you will roux the day!
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
douchebag: lets see if lobbesbot learned something from ol douchebag
a111: Logged on 2018-04-17 19:46 douchebag: I think that's really awesome way how you do withdrawls though
mircea_popescu: no further than earlier over coffee, girl proposed that during her stay in $us.shithole she "tried getting into beer" because well... gotta have an activity and there was no good alcohool available, except for this beer that didn't utterly suck. so i said, "why not make a still", and she said "baring divine intervention...."
mircea_popescu: what fucking divine intervention, a still is $15 in household equipment, get one of those rice cookers or w/e pot warmers, wirth digital temperature adjustment. set it for 79C, stick an erlenmeyer glass in there with a cork and a bent tube coming out, put an ice pack over the tube and voila! whatever southern confort goes in, 195 or so proof alcohol comes out.
mircea_popescu: put it in oj or w/e. but this apparently was divine intervention, half hour's labour worth of parts and half hour's worth of work assembling them together.
mircea_popescu: in short, i don't think esltards even vaguely remember YOU CAN DO THINGS.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-17#1801142 << pretty great story. not to mention the obvious moral : "are you ruining your child's chances to a future by failing to provide a safe learning environment for him through your limp wristed inability to create a clear and present threat to violent bodily harm ?"
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-04-17 19:55 trinque: clicked in my head that "oh, *this* is what the computer is for. change the text, and it does something different."
a111: Logged on 2018-04-17 20:03 douchebag: Yeah, can you believe last year I had to take a QBasic 4.5 class
a111: Logged on 2018-04-17 20:39 diana_coman: and at any rate, we end up with a "hello" packet that is the first one, containing version of comms protocol and client id string and all that jazz but *at most* some bits of the key only, followed by... more packets with the remaining, chopped-up public rsa key
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 00:59 phf: lobbes: same for me, i don't have the right machine to eulora. i tried rebuilding my mac homebrew version recently and it's all kinds of broken since the update a year or so ago
phf: i think alcohol production is forbidden in u.s. by a divine inca decree, so there's only two ways of doing it, in a redneck bathtub, while being redneck, or using hadron collider, like a civilized store alcohol supplier.
ckang: or you get a fuel permit ;)
trinque: I dunno if it was legal or not, but buddy in highschool made his own beer in his bedroom.
ckang: beer and wine is legal
ckang: its distilled stuff it gets sketchy
ckang: in general they wont really mess with you unless you are selling and being 'loud'
ckang: assuming its in your home
mircea_popescu: it won't make commercial amounts, but even the smallest still can outpour your gullet.
mircea_popescu: also it's not properly production, merely fractional distillation of last pass. you're just taking the BBAV/BAC/whatever shitstilleries out of your cup.
phf: it's a question of perception though, i'm commenting on the mechanics of learned helplessness
ckang: these are a pretty good value overall
mircea_popescu: ckang, yes, but that's too calorically bulky to work for the proposed use here.
ckang: do it under a vacuum :)
mircea_popescu: copper stills are great for taking mash (0.x - 7% or so alcohol) to spirit (30-40% or so). they're terrible for trying the 30-50% to 95% part.
ckang: wrong kind of still ofc
ckang: but takes much less watts to start producing
mircea_popescu: i suppose you could get a custom made resistor + multi-spot thermometers and push a point.
ckang: yea a simple DIN PID controller with RTD (pt100/pt1000) would be pretty solid even
mircea_popescu: anyway. i come from a country where 1l 196 proof is ~4 dollars, sold in convenience stores.
phf: everyone has their own special "nastoyka"
ckang: but yea at 4$ a liter, no point in making your own
mircea_popescu: ckang, ppl do actually, many older folk own a quarter acre of plumtrees or so, make their own 45-52% "tuica".
ckang: I want to say 1.75L is like 35$ or so for 190 here
phf: a friend solved the problem of sourcing proper alcohol for nastoyka here by working at NIH.
ckang: I never got that alcohol bug like some do though
phf: mircea_popescu: that's the romanian word for nastoyka? i know polaks calls it nalewka
deedbot: h00k3r voiced for 30 minutes.
ckang: I thought about getting a fuel permit
ckang: but it requires an on site inspection etc
mircea_popescu: phf, not really drunk as such. it's either the plum thing, or else the sour cherry thing, basically. not really herbing.
trinque: these creatures must be monosyllabic on "discord"
deedbot: Poka_ voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: trinque, discord being an audio channel, it dun encourage much more conversation than its forerunner, the car radio.
mircea_popescu: i suspect that's the driver, people couldn't get enough of bad talk radio and commutes.
mod6: <+ascii_lander> phunphakt : when you give 'exclude' option to tar, it excludes RECURSIVELY all files having that name, regardless of depth. this cost us 6 or so hrs today. << Jeeze, sorry you guys had some battles today, glad you persevered tho!
trinque: yeah, also serves as an inverse aa. "huhuh are you smoking pot? I'm gonna smoke some pot"
mircea_popescu: yeah, i noticed this, given present supply of pot the herbivores really need encouragement.
trinque: meanwhile Poka_ says to himself "b-but I had theorems to share!"
ckang: hopefully not a him
mircea_popescu: "fuck that, what, i just happen to raid on a hooker's hotspot, why stereotite!"
deedbot: CF422340903BCD3D374D639E837E72EA0DB8C5A7 registered as h00k3r.
deedbot: C9E2D60F11B27BC30B5D62DF5CFD3308E9EE82BC registered as Poka_.
phf: i've noticed in my travels that north of bay area, california is pot country. whole towns are nothing but dispenseries, mcdonalds*, token hippie store, and gas station.
phf: i mean, town after town after town. the impression is kind of the same as northern pa, trenton new jerson area, which is on the other hand the meth capital of u.s.
trinque: runnin a deploy, almost done
phf: no idea, haven't been. i suspect it's a cleaner for longer stretches, i.e. south of bay area, north of los angeles
ckang: mircea_popescu: veronicalol's had issues, not sure if it was the bot stuff earlier or if it just didnt go through
phf: it's the same shock i had when i traveled in rust belt a decade ago and discovered that nobody's working and everyone's on drugs.
trinque: ckang: that one she's got a withdraw sitting there waiting for OTP
mircea_popescu: phf, kinda why the old man's pipe dream is so lulzy. srsly, make it great again ? da fuck what with ?!?
trinque: probably otp confirm didn't work when the pipe was clogged
mircea_popescu: trinque, i actually didn't confirm it as she came in after i was off to bed.
deedbot: driscole voiced for 30 minutes.
trinque: douchebag: are you trying to own the gpg on the wallet box?
trinque: what am I looking for here
trinque: somehow their public keys aren't properly signed
trinque: lol you know, I make reg transactional for the crackhos, and then!
trinque: maybe you can hang out at ckang's discord instead
ben_vulpes: douchebag: what on earth gpg version are they using?
trinque: douchebag: well yeah, key refused to import
trinque: the key imported elsewhere, but not on this particular gpg
driscole: mircea_popescu: I work as a bar back, in training to be a bar tender
mircea_popescu: driscole, but you do realise you wrote 1d8914a not 1b8914a1 ?
☟︎ phf: fuzzing by whore, you should write it up douchebag, new fuzzing methodology, get it into toorcon
trinque: it apparently totally works
deedbot: h00k3r voiced for 30 minutes.
trinque: not that you've been paid yet
trinque: ok, problem's a fucking missing newline
deedbot: Poka_ voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: trinque, so can i !!pay ? my buffer's getting filled up
deedbot: anotherhooker voiced for 30 minutes.
deedbot: FB63856CD1B96E58DE49C0D6390022FBA9B92F07 registered as anotherhooker.
mircea_popescu: douchebag, seriously btw, writing the whole thing up, exactly as phf suggests, submitting it as paper/speaking gig to conferences, not even HALF bad idea.
douchebag: Oh yeah that would be quite hilarious yet interesting
trinque: aaah the damned clock is askew on the wallet
douchebag: Never thought crackwhores improve IRC bots
mircea_popescu: douchebag, im sure trinque will help you with some reasonable details to give it enough meat once you have the general structure drafted.
trinque will readily admit he has readjusted his sense of the usefulness of the hos
deedbot: driscole voiced for 30 minutes.
trinque: anybody got one more? I wanna see the reg work all the way through.
douchebag: Maybe trying to find out of these sluts have friends
mircea_popescu: that looks written in blood... hey, what did you do before whoring, anotherhooker ?
h00k3r: I had a cheating husband
douchebag: sry man got these hoes on the same laptop
trinque: gotta say, that error message out of gpg is trash.
trinque: driscole: got any friends that want to drop by?
ckang: trinque: working on it :)
trinque: also, you should all be able to !!withdraw , and lmk if not.
ben_vulpes: driscole: is that heart covering something up?
mircea_popescu: so ask her over, what. who knows. everyone needs a vacation spot.
anotherhooker: my husband got me into drugs and then cheated on me with another woman, and eventually it just took me over and i became a whore just like her
☟︎ mircea_popescu: anotherhooker, could i interest you in reading a story of mine ?
ben_vulpes: nono, not no response, apparently engrossed.
mircea_popescu: ONLY TIME IN IRC HISTORY THIS WAS THE FACTUAL TRUTH OF THE MATTER. EV4R.
trinque: it's almost christlike in here
mircea_popescu: in other-other lulz : torrentmaster's new uberbox (that trinque graciously helped with) is in business, doing a glorious 10MB/s of the early trilema films -- that's about 4% of its pipe or so. in a week or two it will contain the complete list.
mircea_popescu: i'm spending on it 3x what the average suburban douchebag spends on his car, it's true, but i count it as a mitzvah : this way, the films that matter have a better shot at survival than the films that don't.
trinque: awesome. glad you're enjoying it!
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 1024**3 / 8 * 3600 * 24 * 365 / 765 * 1024**2 = 5801695990553756672
ben_vulpes: i just reluctantly watched seth rogen's "comedy for charity" special thing, and aside from the predictably bad-because-too-short-because-format-demands-it standup "bits", i think he misses a golden opportunity to do a sketch where god scolds him for doing charity so damnably self-aggrandizingly
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, i think the average pantsuit can't do a good job on the topic of charity for fear such'd be tantamount to i dunno, having voted for trump. there's some fields in which the pantsuit perceive a need to be incredibly retarded for ingroup reasons.
mircea_popescu: sorta like golddiggers have to pretend to not understand money.
deedbot: rittah voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: anotherhooker, it actually has two more parts. but i'm glad you enjoyed.
mircea_popescu: now write your own! with any luck, you're gonna be the next harry potter and ima be rid of that damnable bullshit.
deedbot: anotherhooker voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: !!rate anotherhooker 1 housewife turns to brothel life. harsh!
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 1024**3 / 8 * 3600 * 24 * 365 / 765 / 1024**2 = 5276611.764705882
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 03:22 anotherhooker: my husband got me into drugs and then cheated on me with another woman, and eventually it just took me over and i became a whore just like her
trinque: the drugs part sounds like not a side matter
mircea_popescu: but she wasn't saying inherently anything. she saying it didn't work for her.
danielpbarron: sounds like making up excuses to be an adulterous drug addict
mircea_popescu: guy can take as many wives as he wants, but when the outcome's this guy fucked up somewhere neh.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-15 17:49 trinque: man, if I think back on all the women I cast away, and they were all in this room
rittah: atm i play WoW and fortnite :x
rittah: i'm pretty good though
mircea_popescu: do you know the guy i'm talking about ? total lulzcow.
rittah: i don't, does he stream?
mircea_popescu: rittah, there's a whole subculture, girls who express their submissive side by healing tanks/dps. sometimes also by showing up at natparties to be chained under the table for penis service.
rittah: i completely forgot the game is so old
mircea_popescu: it's older than that. anyway, i've never seen a woman as embarassed as his gf in some other of his vlogs.
mircea_popescu: (chick later ran for whatever denmark local thing , under pirate party banner. afaik lost)
rittah: the game is too addictive, or im easily addicted lol
rittah: have you tried fortnite?
rittah: oh, not heard of that one
ben_vulpes: you know trinque it'd be neat if deedbot would pm folks upon invoicing
trinque: yep, I have that in a list o' mine
trinque: also boop the invoicer when paid/rejected
mircea_popescu: !!rate rittah 1 pretty good she says, though she still can't take athene.
deedbot: kloecat voiced for 30 minutes.
deedbot: rittah voiced for 30 minutes.
rittah: whats this link danielpbarron sent?
trinque: danielpbarron: are you picking on the women?
trinque: I'm about to turn in; anybody that wants a !!withdraw tonight, do it nao
hanbot: mircea_popescu> ask hanbot she loved it lol << oh man visinata was great. and ckang no, not really --who gets drunk on cordials?!
mircea_popescu: hey, you can get stone drunk by just hanging about the cellar where the tuica still is running for a few hours.
trinque: ahahaha bitches broke my shredder!
hanbot: poor trinque, pizarro box gets chewed on, deedbot takes various dings, then gets deluged by crackwhores!
ben_vulpes: trinque: tried to shred 20 at once or what
deedbot: kloecat voiced for 30 minutes.
trinque: naw, crappy shredder, and was collecting bits in the crevices
trinque: hanbot: notbad.jpg stress test!
ckang: mircea_popescu: other girl when ghost so im re-using the account i made for her
ckang: if you have another #
mircea_popescu: because why, because i'd totally know it wasn't the original girl ?
ckang: no but im just being upfront
mircea_popescu: rittah, ima confirm your rating later ; if you want to hang around you'll be able to voice yourself tomorrow, say !!up to deedbot in pm then vertify the string it gives you.
kloecat: mircea_popescu: may I have a number?
ckang: rittah has irccloud on her phone btw so she can check it later
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 04:01 mircea_popescu: kloecat, 10b7f860. you got half hour.
phf: who is number one? -- you're number six. -- i'm not a number! i'm a free man!
ckang: lol danielpbarron I looked at the link you are sending, if you expect any of these girls to read all that...
ckang: you may want to condense it down a little
☟︎ ben_vulpes: douchebag: pizarro board has serious reservations about your fucking up our honorsystem ip routing table and bringing dos/whatever hell down upon our little gated community, can i extract a commitment from you to not misbehave in my cab?
☟︎ kloecat: some guys think girls that smoke are trashy, i didnt want to set that expectation because its not entirely true
☟︎ ben_vulpes: yeah i don't really understand what you're trying to say. nice nips tho!
kloecat: I'll be quiet like a good girl then sorry :(
trinque: danielpbarron's doing that negging thing, but with christ
lobbes: lol. he's scaring away the cute ones but was silent for trucker hos
trinque: wiener moves a little and he's gotta get mad at them for it
ben_vulpes: kloecat: good girls ask good questions
kloecat: Trying to decide on dinner, suggestions?
ben_vulpes: kloecat: how about a big steak and salad
kloecat: ordering a steak on uber eats feels wrong
ben_vulpes: oh christ you're ordering it, why not just make it
kloecat: because I don't have a huge steak reserve lol
ben_vulpes: also what's so wrong about making the gig economy scum work for their food credits?
ben_vulpes: perhaps it is the perverse fun of telling folks to lick between your toes that you feel
trinque: house trinque *cooked* salmon, sprouts, and broccolini.
deedbot: kloecat voiced for 30 minutes.
kloecat: mmm that does sound good trinque
kloecat: ben_vulpes I try to cook, I really hate cleaning though
trinque: get some pesto in there, pine nuts, good stuff
kloecat: cooking is the fun part anyways
ben_vulpes: trinque: i've been waging battle on the brussel sprouts of late
trinque: one of my favorite veggies.
trinque: ben_vulpes: I get 'em from the filthy farmer's market even
ben_vulpes: trinque: kiddo figured out burritos today
ben_vulpes: trinque: don't you know that vegetables that don't arrive perfect under florescent lights will kill you with shit particles?
trinque: haw, how'd he do keeping the food tube intact
ben_vulpes: well he wanted to flatten it at first, and then the week's struggle of "no eat it over your plate" commenced
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, you can just null root his ip if you get complaints you care about, what's the concern exactly ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i do not believe that we have that degree of control over the routing with the current switch, but i'll let asciilifeform/ascii_lander raise the objections
☟︎ ben_vulpes bbl, will attend to the rockchip-seeky later
kloecat: Trying to decide what to make or order and everything I think of sounds pretty meh
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, i dunno, in principle the idea was that pizarro also sells to the general public ; has this changed ? and if you want people to make specific representations, that's one thing, but ~vague~ representations ?
☟︎ kloecat: So far, only suggestion is steak and salad
kloecat: You know, salmon was the other suggestion
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 04:59 kloecat: some guys think girls that smoke are trashy, i didnt want to set that expectation because its not entirely true
trinque: I'm not a madadm; I'm a concierge!
mircea_popescu: trinque, i see your going to bed is not so different from your being awake. #trilema miracles.
trinque: suddenly there was another pizarro toy to investigate
kloecat: wow mircea_popescu sounds like you eat well
kloecat: hmm, antiquated language outside of science? isn't it?
mircea_popescu: no, actually. it's the benchmark used to evaluate the earthly progress by the extraterrestrial intelligence in charge of the petri dish.
kloecat: Woosh, way over my head :)
mircea_popescu: it's a trilema reference ; mostly there to show the churchly folk that i can outquote them on scriptures!
kloecat: medical marijuana cooperative
deedbot: xtina9 voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: yes, i get it, but "i work at a building" doesn't say much. do you clean the floors ? design the marketiung materials ? what.
mircea_popescu: kloecat, actually, wealth and luck are about as distant as health and beauty.
kloecat: Some are blessed with it, others aren't as lucky I suppose :)
mircea_popescu: holy shit these useless fucktards, they got EVERYTHING in there, fifty billion codepoints, no tits ?!
mircea_popescu: kloecat, wealth is merely the measure of personal superiority. it has nothing to do with blessings, luck, bla bla. the poor suck and the rich don't, that's the whole story.
kloecat: What about those born in to wealth?
kloecat: Vs those who earned it themselves
mircea_popescu: well, for instance when i used to own horses, the foals of champions were better than the foals of roadkill.
kloecat: What if someone is born in to money but has poor genes, thinking royal family, for example
mircea_popescu: though they don't usually live up to the legacy of their parents, nevertheless people born rich are actually better stock. though generally they manage to fuck themselves/get fucked over in the nurture side of things.
mircea_popescu: kloecat, royals aren't wealthy in this sense. a bunch of retards getting together and conventionally giving all their money to one retard however picked, be it bill gates or louis the locksmith don't count for much.
kloecat: That was the only example I could think of quickly
mircea_popescu: i suspect if i came from a long dynastic line, to the point of actual degeneracy, you'd not need to ask what i do.
kloecat: They do live a privileged lifestyle though compared to others, earn or not
mircea_popescu wonders if anyone asks say the shithead of wales. "so charles... what is it you do darling ?" "ummmm... charitywork"
mircea_popescu: kloecat, whole fucking point of life, ain't it ? "priviledged as compared to the scum"
deedbot: kloecat voiced for 30 minutes.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 04:48 ckang: you may want to condense it down a little
kloecat: Oh thought I said something wrong :(
mircea_popescu: kloecat, it only voices you for half hour at a time. ima rate you in a moment then you can voice yourself, send !!up to it in pm.
mircea_popescu: anyway, #trilema is one of the few remaining free places, you can say pretty much whatever.
kloecat: I guess I can't understand the flip side of the coin regarding born wealthy and its genetic superiority
kloecat: Most rich or well off guys I know haven't exactly been the best looking
trinque: !!v C8DDC311D292D425F787BE9132525C18B196A093D1C0514C7228C79581D31FCE
deedbot: trinque paid ben_vulpes invoice 5
mircea_popescu: kloecat, i mean, what difference does it make if they're "good looking" ?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, are you seriously proposing the titscript defiles #trilema ?
kloecat: May we later? I am going to run and get some food :)
mircea_popescu: xtina9, do one with your head actually in it ; and with all 8 digits not just 7.
xtina9: crap sorry let me remake must have copied down wrong
danielpbarron: the tit pics in and of themselves do not constitute harlotry, but probably tie into it in one way or another
ckang: kloecat seems like she has an ok head on her boobs
ckang: ive dated worse anyways
mircea_popescu: ckang, so far she's lively enough, but it's not clear whether substance behind it or not.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, how do you distinguish female submission from female prostitution ?
mircea_popescu: (likbez : the "whores of babylon" that the period jews took exception to were in fact ~worshipful~. the way the middle kingdom did reproduction was ritual gangbangs.)
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, you know this female-mated-for-life paradigm is possibly the worst arrangement from a purely biologic perspective.
danielpbarron: if your excellent works of fiction haven't, i don't know what could
deedbot: xtina9 voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: so what do you do for a living, xtina9 ? other than praising the lord, of course.
xtina9: ty, im friends with kloecat
xtina9: I work at a golf course
xtina9: no, not at a golf course haha
mircea_popescu: it strikes me this'd be a great golf course. "we only hire girls with cheerleading past. they get you beers and w/e, and are not dressed above the ankles."
xtina9: I mostly deliver beverages and spare golf balls
xtina9: although I do meet many man, most married but all dogs
xtina9: a band is the 1st thing a woman looks for danielpbarron
danielpbarron: it's not wrong for a man to have more than one wife
xtina9: this is not legal in the USA danielpbarron
mircea_popescu: xtina9, i believe the current workaround is to observe that ~registration~ is not legal.
mircea_popescu: legal to be "married" to as many women as you please as long as you don't attempt to register it with the usg.deedbot
xtina9: its doesn't work in utah 😎
xtina9: which you figure would be one place it did
mircea_popescu: xtina9, you know, the mormons had their civilwar-lite over the matter. they lost.
xtina9: I know they have tried before without luck, it's been in the news several times
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, so how can there be nonwicked laws if there can't be nonwicked places ?
mircea_popescu: kloecat, rittah i rated you dollies ; !!up to deedbot in pm to talk.
danielpbarron: God has put the governing authorities in place to be a terror for wicked men; that doesn't mean the governments themselves aren't also wicked
danielpbarron: this whole world is under the sway of the wicked one
xtina9: isn't there a clause about the law of the land?
xtina9: I couldn't tell you offhand, not studied
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, that's a point though, even the law against murder is bungled up. should take multiple witnesses, and then public execution; not circumstantial evidence and imprisonment
mircea_popescu: afaik you still can't get a murder conviction on circumstantial evidence.
danielpbarron: ah, xtina9 that is the passage we are already discussing
danielpbarron: is it illegal for a married man to have sex with a woman who is not his wife?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, i thought you didn;'t even thinkl that is ~possible~. wasn't your standard for wifehood cocktaking ?
xtina9: but under god, isn't that adultery ?
danielpbarron: yes, before God that constitutes marraige, but the "law of the land" .. it doesn't
danielpbarron: xtina9, not unless the other woman is married to another man
xtina9: how can you be confident that you are right?
mircea_popescu: she has a good point there... if you're right you're right, but if you overlooked something... look out below.\
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, doesn't the similarity to running bitcoin code strike you btw ?
danielpbarron: if the Bible is wrong, what's the harm to me? ever heard of pascal's wager?
mircea_popescu: you got a pile of code, bitcoinsource=bible, which translates an ideal, thewillofgod=functioningbitcoin, into a real, actionable, existent item.
lobbes: danielpbarron, but how do you reconcile the question of: "how do I know that the bible is actually the word of god if the only sources saying it *is* are $not-god?"
danielpbarron: lobbesbot, the Bible is God and it says it is true
mircea_popescu: "the father, the son, the holy spirit AND THE HOLY WRIT ? FOUR PERSONS ?"
jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV] John 1:1 :: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
danielpbarron: more than four, God s also the city of Jerusalem, the 7 spirits of God, the 4 horsemen of zechariah, the 3 men who visited abraham and the 2 that went away to destroy sodem, and there's more still
mircea_popescu: (this line, incidentally, is how various heretics end up trying to shove printed bibles up their butts / open randomly to divine future / kloink people over head with it to cure warts and so on)
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, so is this doctrine of textual divinity your own or darwin fish's too ?
jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV] John 1:14 :: And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
mircea_popescu: i had nfi melchisedechianism actually survived into the 3rd millenium.
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, both. i was aware f this one befoe having found atruechurch
danielpbarron: i had to repent on the multiple wives thing, and free will
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, your stronghold is tephrike :D (nowadays a small turkish town)
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, if it's not prying, what % women compose those "approximately 50" atc believers ?
deedbot: xtina9, voiced for 30 minutes.
deedbot: xtina9 voiced for 30 minutes.
xtina9: sorry but reading above I dont really agree with you danielpbarron
mircea_popescu: !!rate xtina9 1 who knows, maybe she makes bishopress. NUDE bishopress
xtina9: seems like its made to suit you but not anyone else
xtina9: hmm, as long as it doesn't put one into legal risk
xtina9: freedom is to be valued
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, is manhood automatic btw ? how do you know you're a man as per atc definition of ~ ?
mircea_popescu: well what is this, 20 questions ? the box on my desk is not aeroplany, either, but this doesn't make it a computer.
danielpbarron: the effeminate males do not inherit the kingdom of God
mircea_popescu: suppose as you age you get tits. i'm not talking little wasp bites, nice c-cups. it's not THAT rare in eastern fenotypes. is it hell for you ?
mircea_popescu: so could xtina9 be a man if she wasn't cowardly and took her dressing style off trilema headers ?
mircea_popescu: women are not innately cowardly in my experience. children are, yes, but past the age of about 6 or 7 it's pretty much all nurture.
danielpbarron: ma7be i mispoke, women should not be cowards either
mircea_popescu: well that kinda takes you back to square one in our game of "how do you know".
danielpbarron: a man should not behave like a woman, and a woman should not behave like a man. a woman should be submissive
mircea_popescu: so if i say "hey x, how about you do y" and x does y, x goes to hell ?
mircea_popescu: but i mean how the fuck are we supposed to get anything done like this ?
mircea_popescu: consider -- submission is an inescapable part of life. you go to park the car, the park attendant points one way, you steer that way. because wtf, of course you're gonna be submissive to the parkling attendant, what, pick parking lot fights over not going to hell ?
danielpbarron: ah. ook. woman was created to be a help for man. she should be subserviant to her husband. an effeminate man allows his wife to rule over him
mircea_popescu: well yes, but that's not very interesting for what we're discussing.
danielpbarron: believers are to be servents like Christ was a servant; it is not effeminate to folow direction or to help another. effeminate speaks more to the interplay between husband and wife
danielpbarron: but also mentioned in close context to homosexuality. it is not good for a man to behave like a woman sexually with another man
mircea_popescu: so as long as you don't fuck dudes and aren't cowardly you know that a) you're a man and b) behaving manly ?
mircea_popescu: it's not a very high standard so far. my car, for isntance, meets it.
danielpbarron: woman came from man, and men come from women; your car does not
deedbot: clarissa1 voiced for 30 minutes.
clarissa1: Hi mircea_popescu im here for the picture :)
clarissa1: I can't i do remember that show though lol
lobbes: Lol, glad someone made that horrible joke
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, would you be happier if i had said my horse ? not like the car came from the sky, it came from man.
clarissa1: what an odd show though, an alligator?
lobbes: Nah, only a clarissa can explain.
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, came from as in flesh. the animals were created separately; woman was different in that she was made specifically from man's flesh
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, ok, but i think you see the broader point here.
danielpbarron: the rite of passage you are looking for is faith, without which you should do as you please
lobbes: (Not a particularly good show either, but.. good nostalgia item)
lobbes: danielpbarron, ok but say a male has faith, isn't a coward, doesn't fuck dudes, but his junk gets blown off in an explosion. Is he still a man?
danielpbarron: sure, he might even intentionally chop it off because it "offended him"
mircea_popescu: i suppose that ties it up then, you're a man because you have faith and follow the writ, which you do because you're a man and there's an end to it.
danielpbarron: i know, it's circular logic; you can only believe it if God wills it
lobbes: And intentionally chop off?? Phew. Now that's what I call faith
deedbot: kathearin voiced for 30 minutes.
jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV] Matthew 5:27 :: Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV] Matthew 5:28 :: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV] Matthew 5:29 :: And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV] Matthew 5:30 :: And if thy right hand offend thee, cut if off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
ckang: helping clarissa1 get it uploaded now
ckang: timing out for some reason going to try email
lobbes: Anyways, damn #trilema vortex waylaid my own bed course. Enjoy the night all. Nice talkin' danielpbarron
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 04:10 mircea_popescu: rittah, he holds firm if peculiar religious beliefs.
kathearin: I was always told to avoid politics and religion
kathearin: it seems to make more enemies than friends
mircea_popescu: you know, that's a point. karaoke is huge in korea etc.
danielpbarron: i guess it originated there, but the places i go are mostly american. one was portugese
kathearin: Bartender lol, funny since daniels comment to me
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, you asked her if she hangs out in bars. "alllll the time!"
kathearin: Is there any problem with bars daniel?
danielpbarron: i hear that same line all the time "don't talk about religion or politics"
kathearin: Not exactly a discerning crowd lol
mircea_popescu: one of the lulziest things in a bar, is sit by the bartender and watch dudes hit on her.
deedbot: kanzure voiced for 30 minutes.
deedbot: kathearin voiced for 30 minutes.
deedbot: clarissa1 voiced for 30 minutes.
diana_coman: !Q later tell ascii_lander fingerprint of server is not included; python is version 3.5.4, ugh
☟︎ lobbesbot: diana_coman: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 09:02 diana_coman: !Q later tell ascii_lander fingerprint of server is not included; python is version 3.5.4, ugh
lobbesbot: ascii_lander: Sent 10 hours and 2 minutes ago: <mircea_popescu> ok.
lobbesbot: ascii_lander: Sent 2 hours and 22 minutes ago: <diana_coman> fingerprint of server is not included; python is version 3.5.4, ugh
ascii_lander: diana_coman: the ssh fp thing is serious oops tho, please give the signal and i reset the machine by hand in singleuser mode and grab the fp for you from the physical console
ascii_lander: this is exactly the kind of thing i meant in 'ask asap for last-minute things'
ascii_lander: re python, possibly trinque made progress re a depython3ificated portage?
☟︎ ascii_lander: ( gentoo portage is not the only necessary proggy mired in python3ism. the 'lattice ice' thing , for instance, also )
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 03:00 mircea_popescu: driscole, but you do realise you wrote 1d8914a not 1b8914a1 ?
ascii_lander: the tits may be functional, but penny-ante scamchiseling is still imho loathesome.
☟︎ diana_coman: ascii_lander, ok; when do you estimate getting to dc?
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 05:12 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i do not believe that we have that degree of control over the routing with the current switch, but i'll let asciilifeform/ascii_lander raise the objections
ascii_lander: the only sensible policy is to proclaim, ahead of time, that any customer found monkeying with the lan , will be banished, with no refunds and no recourse;
☟︎ ascii_lander: and it would appear that douchebag has already proclaimed ~in advance~ his intention to engage in hooliganisms, and therefore it is not clear to me that we want his business
☟︎ ckang: can't you use tagged vlans and isolate that way ?
ascii_lander: ckang: it is my current understanding that the existing gear does not support this; will have to check with BingoBoingo, who installed it and tends it
ckang: you should atleast be able to do it by switchport and static routing ya
☟︎ ascii_lander: even with 'tag' isolation, a hooligan can still soak up bw on the outgoing pipe, flood the lan, and similar
☟︎ ckang: yea but thats easy enough to detect on the switch
ascii_lander: ( currently we do not use per-user bw caps -- everyone has access to the full pipe for if he needs to burst )
ascii_lander: ckang: right , ugh, everything you mentioned is a SUBSTANTIAL growth in complexity
ckang: yeah but im not sure how else you would do it, short of a virtual stack
ckang: managed 1gbit switches with layer 3 arent too badly priced
☟︎☟︎ ckang: most consumer ones even that now
ascii_lander: i'ma have to discuss the switch in detail with BingoBoingo
ascii_lander: but my current understanding is that we do not yet have this .
ckang: its actually faster in some benchmarks (compared to pfsense)
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 05:15 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, i dunno, in principle the idea was that pizarro also sells to the general public ; has this changed ? and if you want people to make specific representations, that's one thing, but ~vague~ representations ?
ckang: yall building out the routers too?
ascii_lander: ckang: on what physical router does 'vyos' run ?
ckang: chassis full of 4x 1gbE intel wouldnt cost much at all and could handle switching and routing
ckang: its basically a highly modified debian
ascii_lander: ckang: do you have any idea what a x86 chassis that can hold, e.g., 40 nics, costs ??
ckang: with a cisco like interface
ascii_lander: do you understand that if it doesn't hold 40 nics, you have no isolation, only pretense ?
ckang: well you would put 40 nics in 1 chassis, but quad port per NIC @ 35$ a card
ckang: if you consider the cost being router/switch and avoiding cisco
ckang: it may be worth it
ascii_lander: and the bus of a single x86 box becomes a bottleneck
ascii_lander: and the fans of a fucking x86 box become a single point of failure
☟︎ ckang: what vendor is okay to go with?
ascii_lander: afaik nobody other than cisco and juniper, neither of which i will deal with, sells this item as a prepackaged product.
ascii_lander: 'we do not have isolation' is more honest than 'we have cisco-powered isolation'
☟︎ ckang: yea im not like a vyos salesman or anything either, it just came to mind
ckang: ppl build 10gbit switches with it pretty regularly
ascii_lander: this being said, i am investigating the most economical way to cook up a switch with isolation : for the 'adult' rockchip cluster ( will hold N of'em, ps, switch , inside a 2U )
ascii_lander: but the currently-installed pilot plant , is on a conventional switch.
ckang: ah yea if you already have a bunch of network gear it wouldnt make sense
ascii_lander: ok i'ma get moving, diana_coman has been waiting.
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 05:10 mircea_popescu: phf, was that an old iron maiden album ?
ben_vulpes:
http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-4-18#338352 << i've never done it on a live system, but setting PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" and PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7", and rebuilding @world, deep with newuse and then emerge -cav python_3 (or whatever the exact version atom is this week) makes for py3-free gentoo in my limited experience
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-18 11:18 ascii_lander: ( gentoo portage is not the only necessary proggy mired in python3ism. the 'lattice ice' thing , for instance, also )
ben_vulpes: now if portage kiesters a py3 somewhere i don't know about, well, i don't know about it
ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: iirc portage insists on p3 somewhere
ascii_lander: i'd like to be 100% rid of p3 on my boxen, if at all practical
trinque: ascii_lander: tried PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" ?
trinque doesn't approve of this splintering of use flags into various vars, but they did it
ben_vulpes: ascii_lander: do check out UY1 at your leisure, i believe it purged of py3 by this method
trinque: for grub also, drivers, others
ascii_lander: oh btw i should note, i did not end up having to use grub
ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: it was a tarring up and untarring of dulap's gentoo, so not so usefully recipeable
ascii_lander: blew half a day on the following nonsense : excluded 'root' from tar, and this resulted in not only /root , but also /etc/init.d/root being excluded, which is the service that runs at boot to remount / as rw
☟︎ ascii_lander: fought for hours with 'wtf does this box boot up with ro / '
phf: ascii is an americanized russian hacker, doesn't smoke. now neither do i, but i always feel like something's amiss unless server room is filled with a standing smoke cloud
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 11:28 ascii_lander: re python, possibly trinque made progress re a depython3ificated portage?
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 11:34 ascii_lander:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1801317 << aaand i betcha this is because they're camwhores, and have nfi what is pgp or even that d00d generated a key for'em at all , and he gave the magicstring over voicechat with the camgurls
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1801945 << you'll have to explain to me the logic of this sometime. is there some expectation that all bipedals are human and made in the similitude of god or something ? animals are animals, whether superficially human or not, form does not trump structure. if they don't have the spark of humanity, which very much IS rsa key etc, then how's he remiss using them exactly as a chunk of wood, pi
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 11:34 ascii_lander: the tits may be functional, but penny-ante scamchiseling is still imho loathesome.
mircea_popescu: they're there, he's harvesting them for a purpose. they will be forever harvested, for this purpose or some other purpose, because THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE. harvestables.
mircea_popescu: and they are that by personal, wholly owned choice. nobody asked them, or told them, or "made them" act in the specific manner of their subhuman nature, whereby "1. if it's not comfortable ~to me~ i'm 'not interested' because 2. i expect there's enough of us animals around so that 3. under the pressure of our wilful ignorance the republic will be forced to change and adapt."
☟︎ mircea_popescu: now this IS loathsome, and i don't see any merit whatever in offering it any quarter. they find tmsr/eulora/trilema/thelog/whatever "too hard" ? that is ohohohohoh oh-so-fine. someone else, who isn't, will use them as things FOR tmsr/eulora/trilema/thelog/etc. because there's nothing ELSE other than an' besides tmsr/etc.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-12 16:30 mircea_popescu: !!pay zx2c4 1
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-10-11 20:43 BHopkins: I think I did it right: 12taDFRdimNTHx1xoUkUZWj3nrE4js6LM6
mircea_popescu: " and "gifting their valuable crypto contributions to the world" could not have possibly escaped your notice.
mircea_popescu: contrary to what the wankers tell themselves, there's exactly no difference, just, the loser girls of millenium 3 do the whole pot/ex/waitress/dancer schtick, whereas the loser boys of millenium 3 do the whole pot/ex/technology/computology schtick
mircea_popescu: at least the girls are honest about how they're doing nothing and their life is going nowhere (and for the record, this is as close as an invariant as social science ever produced -- females are way the fuck less inclined to lie to themselves. or to you, for that matter, unless they actually don't like you. but males lie to you BECAUSE they like you, and to themselves, too.)
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 11:43 ascii_lander: and it would appear that douchebag has already proclaimed ~in advance~ his intention to engage in hooliganisms, and therefore it is not clear to me that we want his business
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1801956 << i expect. if it's as terrible as to have utterly no way of enforcing any kind of priviledged downstream, "all boxes you connect to this will forever be able to admin it", then we'll have to make a tmsr switch fw ?! but really, even the cheapest nat router available for $15 from radio shack has the capacity to not permit random box plugged in to alter the settings.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 11:46 ckang: you should atleast be able to do it by switchport and static routing ya
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 11:47 ascii_lander: even with 'tag' isolation, a hooligan can still soak up bw on the outgoing pipe, flood the lan, and similar
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 11:50 ckang: managed 1gbit switches with layer 3 arent too badly priced
trinque: yeah, I can vouch for douchebag having asked permission to test deedbot each time, and having committed to telling me what he found.
trinque: don't see the problem with that.
trinque: I'd have been happy if he found something, and fixed it
trinque: (slut onslaught meanwhile found things, so good enough)
mircea_popescu: moreover he seems extremely valuable, sadly in the "black sheep" sort of way, where he tends to collect first pass wrath. but this is because he actually finds unexpected edges, of the flavour of "unexpected" that really is "i dun wanna think about that", ie, "hey flying kid, don't use your wings"
mircea_popescu: but, most generally -- eh fuck it, i'm putting it in the aphorisms.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 11:52 ascii_lander:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1801594 << it was never my impression that we would do business outside of wot. ( can be any depth of wot, but imho to do business entirely outside of wot, is a sin )
mircea_popescu: there we go. mazel tov ; and spyked ave1 lobbes permit me to congratulate you an' to wish you long&happy tenure.
☟︎☟︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 11:56 ascii_lander: and the fans of a fucking x86 box become a single point of failure
mircea_popescu: and it'll be faster and cheaper to do that than to buy juniper, hang/fire/burn at the stake all ustards involved and have a fg-like line of products put out.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: moreover, s.nsa could VERY sensibly sell a prepackaged in this manner cuntoo-based vyos replacement.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: boxes can bind to whichever IPs they want, not a matter of getting into the router and changing settings there.
mircea_popescu: then ? i don't have a good grasp of the problem here.\
ckang: most of the Ubiquiti routers use a form of VyOS (which is a forked version of vyatta)
ben_vulpes: at the risk of enumerating badness and a code of conduct, i'm going to work up a set of things that self-evidently will get one kicked
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, if it's self-evident why write it down then ?
ckang: ben_vulpes: changing an IP address wont matter much if they are zoned off in their own vlan and associated with a specific port. they simply wouldnt be able to reach their gateway after changing IPs, it cant circumvent the router/switch by doing just that anyways, not with proper ACLs in place
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 14:58 ascii_lander: blew half a day on the following nonsense : excluded 'root' from tar, and this resulted in not only /root , but also /etc/init.d/root being excluded, which is the service that runs at boot to remount / as rw
mircea_popescu: ckang, alright, it's time you tell us your life story. what did you do ?
ckang: im not a DC guy by any means, i work more with the software/services side of things
ckang: i just know enough to request what i need from our networking folks
ckang: but i wouldnt trust myself making changes on a production switch by any means
ckang: but its a research paper on pfsense vs vyos performance (from a university student)
ckang: but my life story isnt interesting by any means, not as much as others here anyway
☟︎ ckang: just going off what ive read
ckang is currently deploying esxi 6.7 and a vcenter appliance to see if its worth ditching 6.0 for
trinque: hm weird. will look at it.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 17:10 mircea_popescu: there we go. mazel tov ; and spyked ave1 lobbes permit me to congratulate you an' to wish you long&happy tenure.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 17:10 mircea_popescu: there we go. mazel tov ; and spyked ave1 lobbes permit me to congratulate you an' to wish you long&happy tenure.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 17:32 ckang: but my life story isnt interesting by any means, not as much as others here anyway
lobbes: Anyways, life story almost guaranteed to get more interesting sticking around these parts
ascii_lander bought a 2nd GB switch at the orcshop, installed
diana_coman: as far as I can tell the hardware including fgs seems to be as expected and working, hopefully all is fine
diana_coman: log is full of port scanning but that's kind of expected anyway
ascii_lander: ( answ was: BingoBoingo was a n00b when plugged'em in, did not know that it wants 50pounds of force , they all hung loose )
diana_coman: the classic solution of "use a bigger hammer"
ascii_lander: diana_coman: i dun think i ever had a box where the log were not eternally full of portscanola
ascii_lander: trinque: i used a little bag of animal 'candy' from local shop
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 16:32 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1801945 << you'll have to explain to me the logic of this sometime. is there some expectation that all bipedals are human and made in the similitude of god or something ? animals are animals, whether superficially human or not, form does not trump structure. if they don't have the spark of humanity, which very much IS rsa key etc, then how's he remiss using them exactly as a chunk of wood, pi
deedbot: LordMPofTMSR voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: in expectation of alf eating through the log, im taking a laptop down to the pool, get best of both worlds : wet sluts and stuffs!
ascii_lander: funny place, this here, massive beach, 28c, and... 0 swimmers
ascii_lander: not today, not yesterday, not at all. nobody. swims.
LordMPofTMSR: asciilifeform, about the same here, miles and miles of perfectly empty beach. not so much nudist bbeach as naturist, there's nobody fucking there except the fauna, and it dun care.
LordMPofTMSR: aaand the wireless reaches quite this far apparently. win.
douchebag: mircea_popescu: I have some girls who are possibly interested, are you around right now?
deedbot: LordMPofTMSR voiced for 30 minutes.
douchebag: LordMPofTMSR: Can you verify your identity in any way?
LordMPofTMSR: well if you read up in the log you can see i upped myself first.
douchebag: Alright, you also said you're bringing the laptop down to the pool - so I guess that's good enough
LordMPofTMSR: spyked, your filantropica review is terrible for failing to point out the ion susai - mihaita dragomirescu link, and general unawareness of the dramaz there.
ascii_lander reporting live from a very spiffy rooftop lounge thing
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 17:13 mircea_popescu: and it'll be faster and cheaper to do that than to buy juniper, hang/fire/burn at the stake all ustards involved and have a fg-like line of products put out.
ascii_lander: and if i gotta make it from scratch, then i will
spyked: LordMPofTMSR, I had no idea. and looking for mihaita dragomirescu, all I found was news items a la
http://archive.is/ojKnE and other cancans. if ye know for a fact this is not made-up scandal, then I believe, but otherwise... eh.
☟︎ ascii_lander: ( idea being, picture a 2u chassis , from outside -- ordinary, inside -- double ps, proper switch, 32 rockchippen )
LordMPofTMSR: there factually was a creative busker hanging about piata romana, mid 90s. his self-stories are in fact lies, but the link is still there neh.
LordMPofTMSR: ascii_lander, something like that, for the rockchips. however, what i was talking about is a 1 or i guess 2u general purpose drop-in replacement switch.
spyked: thanks for the reference. will read up on it and find a way to add it to the review
LordMPofTMSR: anyway, laptop kbd is bs. bbs on actua machine.
ascii_lander: LordMPofTMSR: no reason why it cannot be used as general-purpose switchtron, once it exists
mircea_popescu: spyked, there was some dumb bitch whose name i forget "tryina make it in dis biznis" that fell for it and put him in studio for one of their inane talkshow as if genuine article. he certainly wasn't a "great director from braila" etc. however, he was in fact a) busking and b) coming up with lulzy shit, quite in the vein of "surisul fetei din tramvai". and the "you can't possibly know him" bit is asking for it -- i'd not have
mircea_popescu: said anything otherwise, but caranfil or no caranfil -- wantsome, getsome!
spyked was 'lil kid in the '90s anyway, didn't casually start exploring bucharest shithole until early 2000s. sure, heard stories of the usual ex-doctor/university professor bum/taxi driver and met a few weirdos, but otherwise neighbourhood consisted mostly of gypsies, while -- believe or not -- downtown filth was too varied to remember any specific face/case
mircea_popescu: (for the rotakus : the bit in question is "surisul fetei din tramvai m-a fermecat definitiv. am inc-o drama la activ, exact ca domnul ion susai." in romanian it's actually notbad poetry, to my exacting standards that somehow manage to exclude most of it. not actually translatable, sadly, in the sense that it's too dependent on language for its substance, if you translate it there's nothing left. but anyway..)
mircea_popescu: spyked, the advantage of a leisured life started somewhat later, i guess. i certainly had all the time in the world to hang out in bars with all the "inteligentsia" until i heard most of the stories.
spyked: the best story I have -- speaking of "interesting life stories" -- is that one of the "hired guards" ("paznic") at school, while a kid, was "first man accused of terrorism". bet guy did his field study on our (local) school before planting grenade at famous high school.
spyked: ohbutwait, this ain't about me. anyway.
mircea_popescu: ascii_lander, it's not fucking clear because both you and ben_vulpes communicate weirdly. i was going to buy one! am i ?
ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: they were racked yesterday and are up & running an' waiting for folx to live in'em
ascii_lander: is mircea_popescu buying the fella's subscription ?
ascii_lander: ( see also article, there are 2 subscription variants )
spyked: ascii_lander,
http://archive.is/4pSLb ; guy planted grenades in cismigiu park and at one of the highschools in town, I have no idea what he was going to do with them, whether there was any motive or whether the guy was sane. but he was recently bailed out.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 18:23 mircea_popescu: douchebag i'll get you a sever once the pizarro folk unwrap their heads enough to actually have one on offer. so you can tinker on gentoo, trb etc and get out of the "vps" bs hell.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 18:25 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if all he needs is standard unix userland, no reason he couldn't arm.
spyked: but the (prolly not too important) fact that he was hired by private security firm to guard school never made the press. we just saw the news back then (was it 2001?) and luled.
ben_vulpes: i will point out that this rockchip will be a poor production trb host; but will be a fine trb experimentation platform for trinque's audit
deedbot: brooklyn voiced for 30 minutes.
deedbot: EE7CD6CC74BC755446E67A772F0265A9175DB8C4 registered as brooklyn.
mircea_popescu: brooklyn, take off all your clothes ; and that silly rainbow nonsense.
ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: absolutely unusable for trb, cannot (as presently configed) hold the bloxx
ascii_lander: unless you only want to build and smoketest etc
mircea_popescu: spyked, apparently you have no comments ? anyway, "the smiling girl i saw today bewitched my soul entirely ; another line goes in a diary that's read by me, and Mr. Sorrowly."
☟︎ mircea_popescu: (and no, it's not good. it may shock in the sense of "omfg, i had no expectation anything can be done", but good it can't be, because romanian is a highly cultured language, and when you say "tramvai" ie "tramcar" you don't merely say that, but also include by reference "aiurea-n tramvai", which is a typically romanian construction, and susai-s not merely Sonchus arvensis but also all the references in all the "new realism" c
mircea_popescu: ommie novels as to the hardness of rural life, and so going forever, everything is a list of include-by-reference fifty items long.)
mircea_popescu: anyway ; translation is knowing when to take liberties. which is why it's exactly betrayal.
deedbot: brooklyn voiced for 30 minutes.
spyked: thetarpit comments are still wip. :( that functionality screams to be added, there are one or two things that I still need to figure out.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, so then, invoice me for 75 * 4 + 50 an' send the boy his details ?
mircea_popescu: incidentally ben_vulpes : the "The tangibles line looks healthier than it has any right to due to the deterioration of the USD/BTC price. " comment suggests a pretty fine price signal : when btc goes down, incentive to buy pizarro equity goes up. when it's eventually listed you can almost judge btc usd pair by its share price.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: heh well the amount of usd involved is rather small, but i see the point
☟︎ ben_vulpes: ah lost shinohai's bot because he wants to look at logs some more instead of providing a useful tool
ben_vulpes: i do not understand the behavior; he runs a perfectly fine bot for god only knows how long, gets threatened with defrocking, system loses all semblance of reliability in parallel with a few hissy fits
ben_vulpes: i would expect that if he valued his seat he'd make things work better, so i struggle to reconcile the demonstrated behavior with the implied desires of the complaints he voiced.
ben_vulpes: perhaps they fed him some Very Bad Drugs in the white building. how'd i know?
ben_vulpes: !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.04344809 1 rockchip @ pizarro, april 19 2018 -- april 19 2019
spyked: mircea_popescu, re poem, the enclosed rhyme and the meter dun make it any easier, but I fixated on them in my review. any further attempts at this might make my head explode, so I'll leave it to the ro-en professionals. ah, but perhaps I should add the poem title in there! ftr:
https://youtu.be/KxTNpEwN3ck?t=1m24s ben_vulpes: !!v F695C0C8522BAFCA448C6D4DE5882C91EE28E248FD337EAF25C34BDC539BB85D
deedbot: Invoiced mircea_popescu 0.04344809 << 1 rockchip @ pizarro, april 19 2018 -- april 19 2019
☟︎ deedbot: Sandiiiiii voiced for 30 minutes.
douchebag: last bitch flaked because I was too mean
trinque: ben_vulpes: hey even the antibiotics can be Very Bad Drugs; maybe he isn't pooping so well lately
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: left me crystal ball on the ghostly pirate ship
ben_vulpes: trinque: "you're so full of shit your eyes are brown!"
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, ok, but by its nature, it's one of the few republican concerns that naturally accumulates large piles of pricy and valuable capital goods.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i thought you were talking about the "good neighbor policy"
☟︎ ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: it expands somewhat this month!
mircea_popescu: no, you said "oh, but pizarro book is small" in the sense of, "how much trading can it take". well...
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 21:16 mircea_popescu: incidentally ben_vulpes : the "The tangibles line looks healthier than it has any right to due to the deterioration of the USD/BTC price. " comment suggests a pretty fine price signal : when btc goes down, incentive to buy pizarro equity goes up. when it's eventually listed you can almost judge btc usd pair by its share price.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 21:19 ben_vulpes: heh well the amount of usd involved is rather small, but i see the point
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 21:46 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, how long is it going to stay small.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 21:49 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i thought you were talking about the "good neighbor policy"
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 21:51 mircea_popescu: no, you said "oh, but pizarro book is small" in the sense of, "how much trading can it take". well...
mircea_popescu: trinque, here's a thing : i have a list of invoices, and they're all "invoice #" 1. this is silly, could the # actually count them ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: they're unique per invoicer
mircea_popescu: re the whole "policy" w/e, it's not somthing i'd have ever done myself, but you get to run your own ship, so.
ben_vulpes: yeah i may take it down, it's a bit silly.
trinque: mircea_popescu: the count is between you and ben_vulpes, so you could call it ben_vulpes-1
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i fat fingered that invoice, billed for 4 months instead of 12.
trinque: mircea_popescu: that reveals your inbound invoice count to ben_vulpes
trinque: or otherwise you have two separate numbers to identify the invoice
mircea_popescu: trinque, ha, i see your point. ok, ima just make an index out of first two fields.
ben_vulpes: anyways, have the fourth month at the quarterly rate or i'll refund a month. your option.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, so i guess i get 4 months at 75 each, what can i tell you.
ben_vulpes: ey trinque under what conditions will deedbot refuse a reg'd key wallet functions?
☟︎ ben_vulpes: theoretical exercise, no fuzzing at work
mircea_popescu: going through my list here... sooo asciilifeform i don't see a phuctor up ? we get what, two boxes hosted ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, also, i take it from diana_coman smg box is all up, how did that go payment wise ?
trinque: ben_vulpes: no such rules exist today; you've got the key, you can move the money
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 22:11 ben_vulpes: ey trinque under what conditions will deedbot refuse a reg'd key wallet functions?
a111: Logged on 2018-02-17 19:01 asciilifeform: what will trinque do ?
trinque: aha, don't have any interest in the thing being a box that can snap shut on people. why'd they use it if so?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: hadn't yet, last discussion was re an entirely different box, but we settled on a 1.2x purchase price per annum (with guaranteed spare), or a tidy .48
deedbot: Sandiiiiii voiced for 30 minutes.
ben_vulpes: !!invoice adlai .03413779 RK @ P april 19 2018 - july 19 2018
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: if you're amenable i'll invoice
trinque: ahahah check out brian mccuckles
ben_vulpes: !!v 1C94FD901D6C3A87EC76B84A4EBFCA4E59C3DF12CD6F4B538F3E8265815E5BE8
deedbot: Invoiced adlai .03413779 << RK @ P april 19 2018 - july 19 2018
deedbot: ascii_lander voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, iirc was yeah, you get 20% margin, but the original figure didn't iirc include fgs.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 22:13 mircea_popescu: going through my list here... sooo asciilifeform i don't see a phuctor up ? we get what, two boxes hosted ?
mircea_popescu: a cool. but we're paying them for hosting 2 items for us yes ?
diana_coman: ascii_lander, as far as I can see there is no support for iptables ? do I need to recompile the kernel?
ascii_lander: diana_coman: you may have to; it takes about 7min on this box to compile
ascii_lander: make sure to mount /boot prior to using genkernel, if you use genkernel
ascii_lander: ( genkernel --menuconfig all and then load the above conf as starting point , say )
diana_coman: I'm sort of noob+ with gentoo, not more, so it will likely take *me* more than that, lol; but still need to figure it out anyway
ascii_lander: diana_coman: lemme know if you need a hand , though i will have spotty connectivity for the next 2day
trinque: douchebag: so this girl has parallels open?
ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: we under snsa banner, hosting 1 box plus its spare
ascii_lander: ( the spare lives in the rack solely because it is the convenient place to store it, currently, it does not consume current or use the net )
mircea_popescu: douchebag, is it actually ~you~ talking on irc under their silly names ?
ascii_lander: when/if rack fills up, spares will get either moved or converted to living boxen
ascii_lander: trinque: i suspected from beginning, recall, lol
mircea_popescu: ascii_lander, so then i don't get it, am i paying for 1 slot ?
trinque: that's also a visual studio icon at the bottom.
ascii_lander: ( smg's spare also is living inside the rack, but unpowered )
trinque: douchebag: first off, your choice of IDE is unimpressive.
douchebag: I don't use that I just tell them the link to send
trinque: so how'd she send a screenshot of your desktop
mircea_popescu: douchebag, why not just tell them to use either webirc or kiwi ?
ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: lol, if he sends them a working chat link, they might find out about the bitcents
ascii_lander: whereas nao they're likely doing the job for the 10bux or whatever he offered'em
ascii_lander: presumably d00d cares re the 77 ( or how many nao ) * 0.02
mircea_popescu: yeah, because it's totally so likely esl females are autonomous enough they'd do something about it.
mircea_popescu: if you find one in 77 that does, you're ahead of the game because now you know someone worth dating.
ascii_lander: do what. they might start showing up properly, neh, and collect coin instead of him
ben_vulpes: i don't know why he's not asking for the tits under his own name
ascii_lander: my understanding is, d00d bamboozled mircea_popescu , but mircea_popescu is such good sport that he dun care
ben_vulpes: i personally admire the dedication to cranking the crank whore crank
trinque: eh I'm not even saying that; tits are tits, I'm just mocking douchebag's elaborate process
deedbot: candyas voiced for 30 minutes.
ben_vulpes: in the way that i admire woodcutter ants dedication to the snipsnip
ckang: i brought her in not me tho
mircea_popescu: so candyas is this chick connecting to irc on her phone via your irccloud thing, rather than you yourself bridging over whatever nonsense skype into your own irccloud ?
ckang: nah i make them irccloud and gpg and send a link that takes them in
mircea_popescu: (because that's the other end of this, you folk live sheltered lives, have nfi how braidead the zombies are. THEY.WILL.NOT.USE.ANYTHING.BUT.X. where the x is whatever it is, skype.)
ckang: because it lets lets them upload photos easily too
mircea_popescu: ascii_lander, it can't be $10, either, since one of them is asking for remittance to another one of $30.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: 0.513333336 with fuckgoats
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, can i have a calculation rather than a figure ?
ckang: mircea_popescu: unsure about anythign else but i have a POST request i send to irccloud to make a new account
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: 0.51333334 i mean, and yes.
ckang: then i can link them with credentials in url
ckang: so its just clicking a link and it joins basically
mircea_popescu: ah ah. so you're not actually running around like a singapore coolie, trying to come up with strings imaginary girls "said" and so on.
mircea_popescu: Sandiiiiii, we're just lulzing at your pic. is that your desktop ?
ckang hasn't read the log so is a bit confused
diana_coman: ascii_lander, will do; ftr I used make config/menuconfig etc on the few occasions I compiled gentoo kernels before so genkernel would be new anyway; will look at it all tomorrow morning with fresh eyes
mircea_popescu: lol. so basically your process is she sends you the pic in chat and you upload it and send her the link ?
douchebag: she texts me the pic via text, and I send her the link the upload in chat
mircea_popescu: basically the evolutionary programming at work here is like so : his cost per unit of computer interaction is like 1/100 theirs. thus all tasks that can be outsourced from them to him WILL be
ckang: i think they force you to DL the app now
mircea_popescu: because otherwise they'd have to be paid trillions bezzlebucks to get off fat ass.
ckang: but you can request the desktop site
ckang: it behaves odd but sorta works
ckang: you know on mobile browsers
ckang: it request the mobile version by default
mircea_popescu: heh. trilema doesn't EVEN HAVE a mobile version. because the "desktop" version looks perfect on mobile as it is.
ckang: but chrome has a 'desktop site' option which request the regular version
deedbot: Sandiiiiii voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, ok, but whence the .4 ? also, 45/18 = 2.5.
douchebag: that's the link I was supposed to send her
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 22:26 mircea_popescu: !!pay Sandiiiiii 0.02
mircea_popescu: or is this douchebag 's delicate way of asking me not to post his desktop lol.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-03 19:33 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes cash or bonds, though for the latter no actual discount was discussed in teh nsa boardroom. but i guess i'll go with .4 off the cuff and hope nobody throws gavels at me.
ben_vulpes: i'll rerun at the cash prices for both
deedbot: 1DA4C7BDA1BC11211970D175D061AEC1EEBAE00C registered as Sandiiiiii.
douchebag: mircea_popescu: She wasn't registered when you did !!pay Sandiiiiii
mircea_popescu: douchebag, haven't confirmed the batch yet so should be ok anyway.
mircea_popescu: isn't it incredible how many chicks sport noserings btw ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, but i am getting TWO fgs yes ? and, same q, whence 3751 ?
ckang: god a nose ring would drive me nus
mircea_popescu: yeah sorry. sometimes the percolator gets clogged. ok so the deal here is, 0.4752 buys me the box and its hosting till april 18th 2018 ?
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-03 19:33 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes cash or bonds, though for the latter no actual discount was discussed in teh nsa boardroom. but i guess i'll go with .4 off the cuff and hope nobody throws gavels at me.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ever rip one out doing that?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: april 18 2019, with spare.
ben_vulpes: "hey, i guess you just bought negative one days!"
ckang: mircea_popescu: i just imagine sneezing
ckang: and ripping it out lol
mircea_popescu: nope. much liek the original nose ring patient (bulls), the girls with them are docile.
mircea_popescu: pizarro is actually making some decent sales this month huh. will show green for once, if nominally.
ckang: girls with gauges and piercings have never done me wrong
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, also invoice for snsa's colo, but plox do a special job for me : remainder of q2.
ben_vulpes: separate bills for separate corps or allinone
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, i know of virtually no start-ups that show green within first few quarters, howsoever nominally.
deedbot: sandi3 voiced for 30 minutes.
ben_vulpes: anyone else with outstanding pizarro biz, please to queue it up asap, i too will pumpkin shortly
ben_vulpes: !!invoice mircea_popescu .4752 1U april 18 2018 through april 18 2019
ben_vulpes: eh, a thing worth doing's worth doing correctly, i've not verified it yet
ben_vulpes: !!invoice mircea_popescu .4752 1U server for s.mg april 18 2018 through april 18 2019
ben_vulpes: !!v 734D2DF6E0F20C78099BE072879E91C8EEA599B21A098C4C0E44762E6443CA81
deedbot: Invoiced mircea_popescu .4752 << 1U server for s.mg april 18 2018 through april 18 2019
ckang: all this server talk has me wanting to build lol
ckang: i really dont need anything else, not at the house anyways
ckang: i built a storage server a while back, a 4u and 2u supermicro
ckang: 36 bays, should be good for a while
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, also, not to meddle, but you might consider saving on wu extortion by having BingoBoingo take trip to bsas, sell a coin or two, come back.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: been a backburner thought for a bit now; what's the ferry cost again?
mircea_popescu: i coulda swore. is it exciting, putting your tits out there ?
sandi3: But I don't read many books, before you ask 😀
sandi3: I do have a bit of an adrenaline rush almost
sandi3: My heart is beating faster
sandi3: Infront of an audience, yes
sandi3: What language is it in?
sandi3: Oh, only thing I know about Romania is Gypsies, sorry if offends
sandi3: I'm just not sure if thats a good or bad thing in the country
deedbot: Cassidy_ voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: sandi3, what that and which country ? gypsies don't have a country.
sandi3: Oh, I thought Gypsies are roma
sandi3: Or a had some roots there at some point
mircea_popescu: sandi3, the two are entirely unrelated. ohio calls itself after some indians that used to live there.
mircea_popescu: a buncha brits got some gypsies together some time in the 60s and got them to declare "they are now called roma"
sandi3: AH, sorry, I've been wrong on this for a while then
mircea_popescu: i also got a bunch of brits together and got them to declare it's no longer the uk, it's "muslims rapeshack fuckface factory"
mircea_popescu: inexplicably, nobody goes around asking the idiots living onmthat island anything about their being MRFF.
sandi3: Sorry if I offended you
mircea_popescu: i'm just very expressive, which people tend to misinterpret as having been offended whenever "touch" subjects are involved.
sandi3: What goes on in here? Besides boobs
ben_vulpes: !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.04221665 s.nsa rackspace march 18 2018 - june 30 2018
ben_vulpes: !!v 293D3D4C538FBB855768677F272C3EFA1403C85A2DD629A7A7171AF0DD565869
deedbot: Invoiced mircea_popescu 0.04221665 << s.nsa rackspace march 18 2018 - june 30 2018
sandi3: Yeah but, elevator pitch, do you have a quickie?
deedbot: 9495BCC17499138FEEF725989A4E8742CB0A1195 registered as Cassidy_.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i'm barely worth doubledatits
mircea_popescu: sandi3, no, really, "You have reached the public forum of The Most Serene Republic, a terrorist organisation dedicated to the creation of a safe space for the elites to productively defect to, leaving the pantsuit stranded behind."
sandi3: OMG lol, I am going to be on some list now
mircea_popescu: sandi3, sure. topless entertainer of enemies of the state.
deedbot: sandi3 voiced for 30 minutes.
sandi3: Probably more interesting anyways, at least its current
deedbot: pheeby voiced for 30 minutes.